Aston Villa Rumours

04 Jul 2020 09:58:04
Read a lot about smith out etc, how about we start with terry? in my opinion (and it's only mine) while he was an excellent defender at chelski what has he done at the villa? our defence seems to still be on furlough at times i can't see what improvement he has made or any influence he has had they are still a shambles there is no leader amongst them and there's no point in saying we should have had this player or that one we have to go with what we have, we need someone to come in and sort them out! so in my opinion he should be the first to go, As for deano the question has to be asked were they his signings? or is he trying to do a job the best e can with what wasn't his choice, i know he got things wrong tactically at times but is sacking ANOTHER manager the answer, it wasn't so long ago we were singing he's one of our own etc we can't keep sacking managers whether we stay up or go down we need some stability! As for staying up we need Norwich to do us a favour either against Watford or West ham and possibly some kind of result against Liverpool/ man utd and a win at Crystal palace?
Keep the faith lads we are villa!

04 Jul 2020 16:27:30
We have 3 main coaches, they were all defenders as players. Why does all our defence short comings fall on Terry? It has never ever been stated that Terry is the defensive coach.

03 Jul 2020 16:00:28
Do people really think sean dyche is the answer if smith goes? I look at burnley and i think there crap an borring to watch. End of the day forget players if smith does go your biggest signing will be your manager we need to bounce back straight away no messing so we need a huge name poch or rafa or koaman pay big anybody would come. Show some ambition for once!

03 Jul 2020 17:07:28
With all due respect walkies, Dyche was financially restricted at Burnley.

03 Jul 2020 18:46:08
Not like they don't spend, just not top 6 level spending, and isn't that exactly the same situation Smith came from?
Moyes hasn't done anything of note since leaving Everton.
Some managers are just best left to low budget teams because that's where they thrive with low expectations.

{Ed001's Note - you know Dyche took them over and they were literally bankrupt and he had to sell half the squad in his first season just to keep them alive. The reason they have money is because he has done so well, he never spends big, even after their relegation back down to the Championship. He got the club to invest first in infrastructure before he would spend on players.}

03 Jul 2020 19:25:23
Thank you Ed.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome. As for Smith, Brentford is totally different, they have everything in place, including a system of playing, all they hire are head coaches to coach the system there already. So it is totally different, Smith had little to no say on transfers or spending in general while at Brentford, Dyche pretty much runs Burnley like an old school manager.}

03 Jul 2020 19:52:54
What Burnley were and what they are now is different. Dyche was part of that and deserves credit.
You absolutely cannot deny the fact they consistently buy £10,15,20mill players now though and still that is sometimes wasted (Andre gray for instance)

{Ed001's Note - their biggest money signing this season was Brownhill for £9m, paid for by the sale of Heaton to you. They have bought just 5 players who cost £10m or more since the season Gray arrived, including Gray, in 2015. I would not call that consistent. I would also say that you have a strange idea of wasted money when they sold Gray for nearly double what they paid for him.}

03 Jul 2020 20:06:25
Without going into too much detail Sean Dyche has done a real good job at Burnley, and they have in fact broke a number of long-standing club records under his guidance.
Dyche is what I call a good solid, no frills Manager, who could possibly flourish at a bigger club, given the necessary time and backing.

{Ed001's Note - I just worry that he would not digress from his current playing style. That is the big issue with him, if he doesn't adapt to better football, he will never make it at the top end. He has always said he plays the way he does because they have to, so maybe he could make it work at a bigger club.}

03 Jul 2020 20:34:52
That is a good point Ed, and would also be a concern of mine.
Having said that, I would hope that he would adapt to the requirements of the club.
He was moved on from Watford, at a time when things were starting to improve at the club.
And as already mentioned, he has worked some magic at Burnley while being shackled financially.
So fairly impressive under the circumstances.

{Ed001's Note - yeah he has done exceptional work there, it would be a shame if he never got the chance to prove himself.}

03 Jul 2020 21:23:59
Sure would, time will tell.

03 Jul 2020 21:36:43
I still hope we stick wtth Delano but if we are relegated and he does get the old heave ho I wonder whether Dyche would be prepared to take a step down in the short term with the hope of turning us around.

03 Jul 2020 22:07:19
That`s the big Q John mate.
I would love it to work out for Deano, its difficult to know for sure whether he had any say, if any, about the players we brought in.
If he did its not good enough, if he didn`t he should be given the chance to get us out of the situation we are in.

04 Jul 2020 16:35:48
On what planet would Burnley’s signing off Gray be considered a “waste”? Brought for 12 Million, sold for 20. Top Scorer in the 15/ 16 season with 25 Goals when Burnley bounced straight back up to the Prem, first time of asking. This is why many people hold back from debating on here sometimes, in my opinion, too many posters completely fabricate things to support their argument, just makes things pointless.

Sidenote: good read Dave and Ed, I really like Dyche, and want to see him take on a fresh challenge, to see if he can emulate his success at a higher level, all round good bloke aswell, listening to him on the Peter Crouch pod he’s hilarious. My only worry is at most clubs, Villa included, if he was gaffer, give it one or two bad results and he’d have the fans on his back moaning about the style of football.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate and I fully agree, that would be the issue with him at any big club.}

04 Jul 2020 18:52:08
Good post chris, common sense mate, and a realization of someone doing a a very job.
If that was Mourinho or Fergusson it would be listed as a stroke of genius.

01 Jul 2020 09:43:33
Villa to do a massive review into recruitment at the end of the season the daily Telegraph reports. I seen it time and time again the owners appoint a sporting director to buy all the players and when he buys crap they sack the manager.

As a club its all there faults the owners chose not to let the manager buy the players so that's there fault. Jesus who brought this rubbish in the 1st place. I just don't see how this is dean smiths fault his done the best with the players they brought him now there saying his rubbish an should go its a joke.

Tim sherwood got to a cup final kept us up then they brought his players then surprise surprise sacked and the picture is painted that he was rubbish. Pick a manager and trust him to buy his own players! We all know smith wanted phillips, malpay, cahill, butland all was turned down they brought there own that's why they havnt sacked him because they no its not smiths fault!

When Jack goes let him buy his own players then judge him! Its like me going shopping buying you cheese you saying you don't like it whos fault is it you for not eating it or mine for buying it you! Smith in.

28 Jun 2020 17:30:02
Depending on what division we're in who would pick to be manager 3 picks prem and 3 championship
I'd pick dyche, wilder, Potter
Championship sherwood would be the right choice for a rebuild and isn't scared to blood youth, Daniel farke spent no money in prem but his Norwich team has good players and they won the championship, olaf mellberg doing a good job in sweeden.

28 Jun 2020 17:56:38
Managerial merry go round time eh Walkies.! Personally I would stick with Deano as I think you need to support your people through the bad times as well as the good, but if he does go then for the premiership I would go with Dyche Gerrard or Bilic . In the Championship Neil, Houghton, Farke.

I have steered clear of big names like Pochettino or Benitez because I don’t think they are realistic targets I know the view re Gerrard is he is being groomed for Liverpool and I think that is right but a couple of years premier experience might be good for both parties.

28 Jun 2020 20:04:18
John, I have just spoke to my son-in-law, he is very well versed on Liverpool, and has said Klopp is after the German job.
Apparently he is at Liverpool for another 3 years, unless he signs again obviously, so if that is the case Gerrard is probably a good shout.
Dyche, Farke, Bilic, Houghton, any of those are steady, and who knows what they are capable of with good funding.
Shame, because I was a supporter of Deano, I would love to know how much say he actually had in recruiting, I am not convinced he had the freedom we are led to believe.

28 Jun 2020 22:15:24
It was said from day 1 that he was there to coach.
He would have been asked what positions he feels need strengthening and the qualities he is looking for in that position.
The fact still remains that in the early interviews he clearly stated he would not be heavily involved in transfers and that was the system he was used to.

28 Jun 2020 23:58:14
Even if Deano only identified the qualities he was looking for in players then something has still gone drastically wrong somewhere for example we know he was interested in Maupay and Benrahma to name but 2 but we ended up with Wesley Nakamba Luiz and Trezuget. I would argue that Maupay and Wesley do not possess the same qualities neither do Benrahma and any of the midfielders named above so what happened between his identifying players and those we signed I would love to knoe.

29 Jun 2020 06:35:38
If Smith does go and we're relegated we stand little chance of a "big" name. My personal preference would be Mellberg/ Laursen partnership with Petrov on the coaching staff maybe even offer Barry a coaching role as he's on the released list and may want to get into that side of the game. 4 ex Villa captain's, ex internationals, leaders and winners. Time for a different way of thinking.

29 Jun 2020 17:39:59
Hi Moose66 i think we could attract a big name manager to the club, our owners are very wealthy, want to take the club to the top . OK made a mistake. i don't think that will happen again,

29 Jun 2020 18:03:52
We have to follow the example of Wolves. They took over the club, removed Kenny Jackett as he wasn't the right man to take them to the next level. They put in Walter Zenga who is a playing legend but that didn't work. Lambert came in til the end if the season to steady the ship and then Nuno was appointed and cleared out the old backroom staff and brought his tried and tested team. That's what Villa need to do now. Complete change of managerial and coaching staff.

{Ed002's Note - Sorry but Walter Zenga isn't available.}

29 Jun 2020 18:28:50
Isn't Zenga the scary one from Terrahawks who looked like shirley from Eastenders? 😂😂.

29 Jun 2020 18:39:02
Nobody who's available really grabs my attention JK, RHLT. Pochetino, could we tempt him in the championship? I'm being realistic and doubt it despite our prestige as a club. That's why I've gone for the above choices. Mellberg and Laursen are cutting their managerial teeth admittedly, but similar to Solskjaer at Man Utd (yes I know more stable club) who surrounded himself with people who played for and know the club inside out. Like I say going for "names" hasn't worked out too well not since MON early days so why not try something leftfield for a change? It would certainly give the fans a massive lift having 3-4 legends looking after things and maybe they would be given the time and patience to start building a legacy which would include a more productive youth system.

29 Jun 2020 20:08:29
I like that throw in petrov aswell as coach could work aswell.

30 Jun 2020 10:55:24
Moose I like your plan, I think Hoddle should be added to that team, all who played for him say he was great coach, i know he a bit on the older side and had challenge but those you mention could learn from him.

27 Jun 2020 19:14:44
Rumour has it Dean Smith is nearing the sack.

27 Jun 2020 20:03:10
I've seen it aswell daz.

27 Jun 2020 20:08:44
Pls let it not be Terry.

27 Jun 2020 20:30:09
Venables, Scott or Wogan? 😁.