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24 Jan 2021 14:05:03
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23 Jan 2021 11:13:52
Dare say you've all seen it, but just in case you haven't-fee of 14m, rising to 15.5m agreed with Marseille for Sanson. Cracking business and welcome to the club ššš.
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23 Jan 2021 12:55:22
He was named in their match day squad today but guess he won't feature now.
Good business.
Where does that leave Ramsey? Send him out on loan to Championship?
We've got 8 or 9 players ahead of him in now so can't see much point keeping him for rest of this season. Pity I rate the kid.
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23 Jan 2021 13:11:20
Well played Lange and/ or whoever was behind the negotiations for this. Weāve seen what reckless spending can do first hand, not only under Xia but in the MON era, where by the owner had serious funds which were wasted with players on 70k a week on the bench. Thus contributing to the owners change of stance.
We are only just undoing the mess done by previous regimes with regards to transfer fees and wages, the safety of this club has to be paramount from here on our. So whomever managed to save us between 2 and 4 million, just by being patient and tactful, well done and thank you.
I understand fans want everything done two days ago so to speak, but we have to learn from the not so recent past, otherwise we are doomed to repeat history over and over.
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23 Jan 2021 14:41:36
Leaves Ramsey in the same position, Sanson takes Hourihanes position. I expect Ramsey will start today.
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23 Jan 2021 14:43:22
Sorry Johnny just read your comment fully, who are these nine players ahead of Ramsey?
McGinn, Dougie, Sanson, Barkley, after that itās a toss up of Nakamba or Ramsey. When you consider thereās 3 of those starting, being 6th on the list at worst is perfect for his development.
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23 Jan 2021 15:32:56
Great news, great price, looks like a great addition, what a great addition to our staff Lange is, coupled with shakephere our club done really well in terms of staff and of coarse players in, loving this season and the new lease of life within our club, well played to all involved, vtid šŖšŖ.
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23 Jan 2021 15:56:20
Just reading an article about his transfer and it mentioned that we may have further dealings with Marseille in this window, looking through their squad there are a couple I wouldnāt mind having, I seen Leeds banter suggesting amavi is available, he would be a great addition instead of Taylor to compete with targett, see payet there also but if memory serves me right didnāt he have a bad attitude towards the end of his West Ham days, might just be usual news now BS but it wouldnāt surprise me as there is value to be had in France right now, AVB will be annoyed at the fee after embarrassing himself moaning about the first bid.
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23 Jan 2021 16:23:10
Chris, weāve got 9 midfield/ attacking midfield options. Luisa, McGinn, Nakamba, Barkley, Grealish, Trezeguet, Traore, El Ghazi plus Sanson.
Granted they canāt/ donāt all play in the same position but I doubt you would pick Ramsey ahead of any of them would you?
Ramsey isnāt quite in the same position. Hourihane would be behind Sanson if heād stayed and you could then argue picking Ramsey ahead of Hourihane but maybe not ahead of Sanson. He wonāt be competing for Luiz, Nakamba or McGinn position either. He certainly wonāt get in ahead of the attacking options of Grealish, Barkley, Traore, ElGhazi and Trezeguet.
I like the kid but if he could get a decent loan move and game time should it be considered?
It was a question rather than a āmust happenā.
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23 Jan 2021 16:52:44
Ramsey is a centre mid mate, heās in competition with Barkley, McGinn, Dougie, Sanson and Nakamba.
Out of them, on current usage heās most likely fifth in that ranking. And considering 3 of them are going to start, heās second choice sub behind Sanson, as heās had significantly more play time recently than Nakamba. Best place for him to learn at the minute is here IMO, but I can see a decent Lon move to an attacking side where he is definitely going to start, would work well.
However trinity, I can promise you, El Ghazi, Trez or Traore wonāt be playing centre mid for us anytime soonš.
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23 Jan 2021 17:12:27
Agree Chris, Ramsey usually comes on in place of Barkley or a winger, where of coarse jack moves out wide and Ramsey plays central, bookings are building up we will need him imo, like today he will probably start instead of maginn, if Barkley picks up another injury then we would be starting either sanson or Ramsey in his place leaving him and marvellous our only center midfield subs.
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23 Jan 2021 17:18:17
Those 9 players you mention Trinity will be competing for 5 places in the team. That would leave 4 over then, letās say Nakamba, Trezeguet, El Ghazi and Ramsey. There would definitely be room for all 4 of them to be on a bench of 9 along with say Heaton, Elmo, Hause, Guilbert and say Davis for example. Nakamba is the obvious DM cover, and so I think Ramsey would be more than capable of challenging Trez or El Ghazi for covering the 4 more attacking positions in the team. He has already shown that he is ready for the step up to the Premier League and Deano has said as much over the last few days.
I donāt think 4 players covering 5 positions is excessive and there are always going to be injuries, suspensions, fatigue and loss of form, so I think Ramsey will still get adequate opportunities despite the arrival of Sanson.
I apologize if it was Chris who you wanted to answer your post.
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23 Jan 2021 18:31:01
Not at all Frenchy. I take the point.
As I say, I like the kid but how much game time is he going to get with us this year?
I honestly donā think heāll be on the bench ahead of any 2 of Trezeguet or Traore or ElGhazi or Barkley,
Keeping him is fine with me. As previously mentioned, it was a question?
Assume of the 5 positions we have Grealish, Barkley, El Ghazi, McGinn and Luiz starting that leaves 3 places on bench for cam/ am, Sanson, Trezeguet, Traore and Nakamba?
Assume all fit, where does Ramsey fit into that mix?
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23 Jan 2021 18:40:24
Ramsey is comfortably ahead of Nakamba in the pecking order at the moment. Ideally you want two players for every position, with that we need 3 back up central midfielders, or 2 and one number 10. Ramsey can play both. Ramsey will see some game time tonight, wonāt surprise me if he starts.
The wingers shouldnāt come into question when discussions Ramsey, whilst he probably can play out wide, I think he did for Doncaster on occasion, he is central for us, and Trez, El Ghazi and Traore are the designated wide men.
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23 Jan 2021 18:57:24
I think Ramsey is good enough to compete against any of the options on the bench in that scenario. Heās a young player whoās improving all the time and could very easily go up in the pecking order.
Admittedly there would in fact be 10 players competing for 5 places but I think it will be on rare occasions that all of them will be available. I would be surprised if there are many match days where Ramsey doesnāt feature at the very least on the bench.
I wonder how Ramsey would feel about it, if given the choice to fight for a first team place or to be loaned out to Championship side, If it was me Iād want to stay.
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23 Jan 2021 19:13:58
Well Chris, heās on the bench tonight Iām pleased to say but behind Nakamba who starts in place of suspended McGinn. When you have Sanson coming in it suddenly looks a bit busy in there doesnāt it.
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23 Jan 2021 19:22:52
I really canāt see your worries trinity, in our last 8 league games heās started one and been sub in 7 and came off the bench in 6 of those 7. He has a lot more minutes than Nakamba this season, the addition of Sanson makes things more competitive but going off the facts it only makes Nakambas position more vulnerable, not Ramseyās.
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24 Jan 2021 01:06:04
Agreed Chris, I don't understand how people think Ramsey is competing with Trezeguet, Traore etc for a starting place. It's like some people's understanding of football is based purely on Darren Bent's punditry.
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24 Jan 2021 11:21:53
Its not that at all DB, the fact of the matter is, we don`t all see things the same, therefore ideas differ.
Nowt wrong with that mate.
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24 Jan 2021 12:31:48
Wait a minute Dave, Iāve just realized with initials like that, this could be the Guvnor himself, although I didnāt know he had a middle name. If thatās the case then, maybe we should all bow down to his superior knowledge š.
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22 Jan 2021 19:16:52
What is happening with the guy from Marseille?
Thought it was 99% done, only waiting for the player to accept terms.
Villa Boas now wants more, who doesnt?
They have signed Millik and now need money.
Will we go back with another offer?
{Ed002's Note - Marseille are waiting for an acceptable offer. It is nothing to do with AVB. It is also unrelated to Malik.}
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22 Jan 2021 20:53:18
Hi Oldvillan, its Villa playing silly buggers, he is going cheap and we are trying to get him cheaper.
Pay them what they want, he is a good player and a bargain at the asking price.
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22 Jan 2021 22:58:21
Need to get this wrapped up, pay the Ā£15 million itās not big money for a high quality player with his experience, I like marvellous and Ramsey but Iād like to have a higher caliber player there especially with maginn missing this week we look short on options, need to get Louie on the bench forget buying a striker, midfield is where the magic happens going forward and protecting the defence.
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22 Jan 2021 23:01:04
Trying to take advantage of the situation. If it comes off and we get him cheaper, itās a master stroke from Lange, if we miss out on him itās needless bargaining. Can go two ways.
However the amount of times weāve had our pants down in the past, Iād rather see us try and get the best deal, after all, there isnāt an endless pot of money.
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23 Jan 2021 11:07:51
Looks like the deals been done at £14 million.
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23 Jan 2021 11:16:20
Itās done. Well, the fee is agreed. But since Joe Bryan I donāt consider any deal done until the photo shoot.
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23 Jan 2021 13:06:35
Very very good point woodsville! Well played Lange for judging the situation and getting the best deal possible for Villa.
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19 Jan 2021 11:52:14
Looking at the training pics on the website no sign of Mcginn or el Gazi.
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19 Jan 2021 14:02:25
Check Twitter, he's on the training pics as is el gahzi.
Both Ramsey's and Chuckematchya trained with 1st team.
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17 Jan 2021 17:40:17
If photos doing the rounds are genuine, Morgan Sanson could be a done deal š¤.
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18 Jan 2021 18:30:46
Havenāt seen them mate, do tell?
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18 Jan 2021 18:45:30
Apparently its been photoshopped Whack, his head, Barkley's body š³.
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18 Jan 2021 21:58:52
Kids are very quick with these things, saw one on Lingard in the changing room at Villa park the other day, looked almost perfect.
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19 Jan 2021 00:28:15
Barkleys head on sansons body would be a decent transfer lol might spend less time out injuredšš.
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16 Jan 2021 14:18:00
Another one out and about, Callum Rowe out on loan to Hereford.
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16 Jan 2021 15:38:10
They may be going to non league teams, but its vital experience of playing regular "Mens" football and will only help their development. And it never did the likes of Vardy, Smalling and our very own Ian Taylor any harm, so let's keep our fingers crossed. As one of Eddie Murphy's characters in Coming to America once sang " I believe the children are our future " šš.
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17 Jan 2021 11:22:16
Bang on Moose, heāll learn more in the next few months about being a pro than he has last few years!
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15 Jan 2021 16:41:22
Looks like I wasn't far wrong when I said the phone would be ringing, after the youngsters performances in the cup.
Revan off to Weymouth on loan. I thought he'd be out a bit higher up the tree, however playing week in week out is most important!
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15 Jan 2021 18:04:25
3rd from bottom in the National league and conceding an average of 2 goals a game. Dominic has got his work cut out by the looks of it, but Iām sure heās up to the task, if his performance against Liverpool is anything to go by.
Good luck Dominic.
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13 Jan 2021 14:07:44
Galatasary to meet Aston Villa this week to discuss trez going there on loan, just because he's supposedly on their managers shortlist. did u ever hear such rubbish, why would we even entertain any talks of loaning a first team player, news now articles really are the bottom of the barrel reporting.
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13 Jan 2021 17:09:59
I think there may be some validity in this rumour whacky.
Trez has some ties with the guy at Galatasaray, having already worked with him.
this is not the first time this has surfaced, so I would not hold your breath on this happening, if not now possibly the summer.
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13 Jan 2021 17:47:36
I might be in a minority but I for one wouldnāt be desperately upset if he leaves I think he works incredibly hard for the team but we need a bit more quality certainly when it comes to finishing and he just doesnāt have it for me Iām afraid.
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13 Jan 2021 18:36:27
Thatās like saying all the Brentford and Chelsea team have ties to Aston Villa because of dean and JT. villa aināt loaning trez to anyone, if heās not in the first 11 heās the first sub used, he was linked to several Turkish teams in the summer itās just usual BS articles no substance whatsoever, it would be 1 thing if they were going to buy him u might think ok maybe we want funds to make a purchase but a loan makes no sense when we are struggling for depth. yesterday it was Freddie going to turkey, which maybe had some lvl of believability, they can have Lansbury šš.
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13 Jan 2021 19:01:46
That`s fine whacky, if that`s how you see it and you think it`s BS.
I agree with you John, he works hard yes, but my opinion remains the same, very erratic and snatches at everything, needs to calm down.
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13 Jan 2021 19:17:19
My main point Dave is if trez is on the bench and we need to take off a winger heās our best and only option at the minute unless we move Ollie out the wing and bring on Davis which hasnāt worked anytime we have done so but bringing on trez you have a chance of creating something with his pace, and I do agree to a point he does need to calm down a bit he does tend to snatch at things but he also gets in great positions and has scored some very important goals for us, as it stands we need 1 more winger, if he were to leave we need to buy 2 and that certainly wonāt happen in January we will be lucky if we get 1 in. I like him to be honest he gives his all and never stops trying, if we had more like him a few seasons back we wouldnāt of gotten relegated, heās needs more developing but heās exactly the type of player we want to see wear our jersey.
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13 Jan 2021 19:29:56
That was mainly because El Ghazi was not performing, and he always looked disinterested, he has now found another mojo, and we did not have Traore back then either.
Its all about opinions mate, and how we individually see things mate.
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13 Jan 2021 21:46:07
I canāt see us getting rid of anyone at the minute without replacement, it would be utter madness. Unlike previous management, Deano and his team arenāt that naĆÆve.
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12 Jan 2021 18:30:04
I see Bogarde has signed his first professional contract, hopefully the first of many of our talented youngsters to sign on the dotted line.
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12 Jan 2021 19:23:18
Add Chrisene to that list.
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12 Jan 2021 18:22:02
According to reports Sunday's game gone as well.
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13 Jan 2021 15:03:12
Probably too early to say, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is called off.
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09 Jan 2021 23:07:18
David Brooks is on Dean Smith's hit-list this month. Villa also have their eyes on Reading's Michael Olise.
Smith is keen to add younger players to his squad list in the hope of developing their potential still further and has been given the firepower to move in a depressed market.
- all from Neil Moxley, profile certainly fits with recent activity. Interesting both players can play centrally and out wide in attacking areas. Not sure how reliable Moxley has been in recent windows.
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10 Jan 2021 08:45:09
Seen the article Chris and I'd definitely take Brooks, he's a player I've mentioned on here before. Coming back from a serious ankle injury similar to McGinn so probably getting back up to speed. Looks a really useful player and fits the profile just what fee he would command. Don't know anything about the other guy only what I've read in the article.
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10 Jan 2021 09:16:09
Seems every man and their dog want Olise Moose, Iām the same as you, never seen him play, but the interest in him is a positive sign.
Iād take Brooks all day long.
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10 Jan 2021 09:24:09
I have also mentioned Brooks on here before he would be a great addition adding quality and flexibility to the squad in that he can play in a number of positions either centrally or out wide. In terms of fee I canāt see it being less than Ā£25 million and probably a bit more as I am sure a number of other premier league clubs will be interested if Bournemouth decide to sell which no doubt will drive the price up.
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10 Jan 2021 09:39:50
Wasnāt 40 million mooted in the Summer?
Might have to break the transfer record againš¤¦āāļø.
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10 Jan 2021 09:48:22
So Iāve done some research, apparently Bournemouth wanted 50 million + in the summer for Brooks, which put off a lot of suiters. With their league position I can imagine this would still be the price, unless they have been hit hard with the current struggles in the world, and need cash.
This bring the question, would you rather get ripped off for Brooks, or pay the reported £25million for Buendia? I like the fact Brooks is British and no doubt a good player, but is he really better than Buendia? Does his game suit us more that Buendias? Tough choice I think.
As for Olise, heās played 23 games this season, 16 times as a starter, very good record for an 18 year old. The highlights videos look brilliant - as usual, Tonev looked like a Bulgarian Messi on YouTube.
I hope we do do some business this window, often we have nothing attacking wise to come from the bench, to change a game. I know with Wesley, Barkley and Trez back fully fit that will change, however we canāt guarantee everyone to be fully fit all the time, so letās have more options around.
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10 Jan 2021 09:53:44
If King leaves, which is looking likely, we may be able to sweeten any deal with the possibility of sending Davis, possibly on loan, the other way? š¤.
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10 Jan 2021 10:08:59
King has hardly featured for Bournemouth so far this season, if at all. It would appear he wants out, and his contract is up in June.
A bargain to be had there, I think.
I read somewhere Bournemouth were interested in taking Davis on loan Moose, so maybe something could be agreed.
Chris, if the asking price difference between Brooks and Buendia is really 25 million, then surely itās a no brainer.
Thereās only a year difference in their ages, and what exactly can Brooks give us that Buendia canāt?
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10 Jan 2021 10:27:57
Having said that Iāve just seen that King played yesterday and scored twice. Also apparently Everton are trying to do a deal for King involving a swap, according to Sky Sports.
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10 Jan 2021 10:28:56
It does all come down to price but either would be a great addition, Beundia probably offers more versatility in the midfield areas but Brooks is definitely up there in terms of skill. Win win situation whoever we sign and obviously because of age room for further improvement.
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10 Jan 2021 10:35:32
No club will pay Ā£50 million for Brooks as good as he appears to be, thatās totally un realistic and I agree with Mark that you would go with Buendia for Ā£25 million however where I think Norwich will come back up I am not convinced Bournemouth will, so I think it may pay to play the waiting game as I canāt see Brooks being prepared to stay in the championship long term and if thatās the case and the player agitates for a move I am sure the fee will come down.
The other thing to consider is if we do sign Brooks or Olise and given the fact that Ramsey is developing and Smith seems happy to have him on the bench whether we ought to be facilitating a move for Hourihane as at his age he needs to be playing first team football, he has been a good servant to the club but he is dropping down the pecking order bit by bit.
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10 Jan 2021 10:56:11
Unfortunately John there's little room for sentiment in football anymore and we'll see players who've been staple squad members for the past few seasons moved on with the minimum amount of fuss but a big thank you as we sign others to take us to the next level. We've also got Elmo and Taylor with their contracts up this year but I don't think we'll be going all out to replace them as some of our promising youth defenders may be drafted in as part of their gradual integration into the squad.
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10 Jan 2021 15:05:03
You are probably right Moose but that being the case we probably have no right to moan when the players decide to take whatever actions they see fit to further there careers even when itās at the expense of the club.
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10 Jan 2021 15:50:19
Ā£50m? Surely that must be a mistype! The world has gone mad. Have seen a little of Brooks and he is decent but not at that price.
Would expect us to be looking at value if weāre looking at all.
Olise looks a good shout, one for the future but wouldnāt be in our match day squad. Again it will come down to price/ value. January is notorious for premium values.
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10 Jan 2021 16:14:19
Its always happened John always will. The time of someone staying at a club for their career is over, unless you're Gabby just taking the cash at the end. If they do move on the world will still keep turning and Villa will be here long after they've been forgotten.
It's up to us as a club to become that successful they won't want to go anywhere else and therein lies the challenge. I'm confident tho that with our owners we're finally on the right road.
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