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22 Nov 2020 00:06:51
Been stated you can't use international's, as an excuse. But you could certainly pick out the ones who had been involved.
The first goal especially was, schoolboy defending We had more than enough chances, to win it We have to get back to being solid, defensively for the Hammers . Traore fitted in well in the middle, until he ran out of steam .
Whether it be physically or mentally, some of our big players where lacking .
Onwards&Upwards Villaforever.

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22 Nov 2020 10:37:24
No pen for me the trajectory of the ball changes so much that its harsh to give it. We are the makers of our own fate we shouldve taken atleast 1 of the many chances in the first half and defensively we need to learn from it. Some good some bad some ugly and barkley going off made a big difference to the finess going forward. On to the next one and keep the faith 💪🏼.

22 Nov 2020 11:39:01
Traoré’s performance, particularly in the first half, was one of the few positives IMO. With a few more games and a bit more fitness, I have a feeling he could be a big player for us. I particularly like his ability to play in several different positions, not just as a winger. Another plus was Matty Cash’s driving runs going forward, something we haven’t seen enough of in previous games.

22 Nov 2020 11:57:20
If you hadn't watched the game yesterday and looked at the match stats you'd probably be forgiven for thinking it was a smash and grab raid against the run of play and you'd probably have a point. On another day we score a hat full and win comfortably without hitting top gear. What is frustrating from our point of view is the manner of the Brighton goals and the defensive naivety we showed. With centre halves when 1 pushes up the other drops and the defensive mid sits in. I feel like we play a different way at home compared to away where we sit solidly and hit with pace on the break. With no supporters to egg the team forward maybe the same pragmatic approach could be adopted. We are extremely competent doing this as our victories against liverpool, Leicester and Arsenal showed. If something works effectively don't change it. Under MON we were renowned for this and with the players we have in our team should be the way we play. We showed yesterday we're capable of creating chances even when we're not at our best. Just food for thought after yesterday's disappointment.

22 Nov 2020 14:16:10
That’s the point I was trying to make further down mate. If we can beat the better teams playing that way, in theory it shouldn’t be a problem beating the lesser teams playing exactly the same way. The incredible stat is, that we haven’t conceded a goal in the away games, where we’ve adopted that approach, yet we’ve conceded 11 goals in the home games, in which we’ve at times played recklessly.

22 Nov 2020 16:25:53
Think your probably right there Dave, when we moved Grealish in the middle it made sense because of how much footy he’s played he was struggling to track Lamptey. It was only after the game I realised Traore had played 90 minutes the other night aswell, hence why he also struggled!

With that being said I still think we did enough to get the draw, had Trez got his shooting boots on we probably would of nicked a win, the stats are ridiculous. 5 on target to their 3 and 12 in total to their 6.

Hope Barkley isn’t out too long, yesterday was made for him, with everyone else involved in international football I thought he’d be the one with Watkins to take the pressure off them, cruel injury so early on.

22 Nov 2020 16:46:01
I thought it was a shrewd move tactically with the switch Mark, obviously Trez does track back more but Lamptey had the freedom of Villa park at times and was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch until his sending off.

21 Nov 2020 21:10:29
If the prem want to change the rules that fine, just let everyone know.

From here on out it doesn't matter if the ball stays at the opposition players feet, as long as little as a leg hair touches the ball you can do whatever you like after!

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21 Nov 2020 20:24:14
I think we need a left back in January. Who would you like to see come in lads?

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21 Nov 2020 19:08:19
Agree with Johnny. D not a pen in my eyes.
Mings suffers from brain farts, and almost cost us 2 more goals.
McGinn is still not with his game.
Grealish was holding the ball far too long, and was slow playing it.
Trez, never learns, again he was snatching at everything he does, slow down mate.
Watkins, was making runs but we were slow in seeing them.
Traore, steady introduction, we be aware he is left footed, use it.
Luiz, the jury is still out for me with him, doesn`t react quick enough for me, and thinks about it for to long
Cash, Konsa, Targett, ok another day at the office.
Yes we did play well at times, but we are going from one extreme to the other, pointless beating Arsenal away, and losing at home to Brighton, first time by the way.

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21 Nov 2020 19:39:48
I think it’s no coincidence that we’re doing well away from home and poorly at home Dave.
Away from home we keep our shape, defend as one and pick teams off when the opportunities arise. At home we throw caution to the wind, try and win the game in the first 20 minutes, and when it hasn’t worked, we are the ones that get picked off.
I would suggest that counter attacking football suits the players we have, and maybe we should deploy that approach to games against all teams home and away
regardless of the quality of the opposition. Otherwise we will probably continue to lose against teams we should be beating comfortably.

21 Nov 2020 20:05:26
I can see your point Mark, I might agree a tad more if there were fans in the ground mate.
As that is not the case, I find it hard to accept we can look so drab
at times, and look like lower Championship quality, then go and perform like a seasoned top 10 Premiership side.
That is like a Surgeon doing a Vasectomy one day, and the following day taking your Nuts of by mistake.

21 Nov 2020 20:29:32
Dont think we should be defending in the opposition half with nobody holding back.
Wellbeck couldn't believe his luck.
Lesson to be learnt.

21 Nov 2020 17:07:19
We really need to be smarter, especially at home. We look like we've got to win the game in the first 30 minutes. The wins against Liverpool, Leicester and Arsenal are then wasted with results like this.
Excuses? Grealish looked tired, so did one or two other returning internationals. Barkley going off didn't help. It's s why we need to strengthen in January.
Never a penalty. Correct decision.
We had enough chance first half to have won this comfortably. When those don't go in it adds pressure when they take their chances. Then we're chasing the game. Who's up next? West Ham. Probably turn them over. So frustrating.

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21 Nov 2020 17:20:02
Disagree on the penalty mate, for me it's 100% a peno! But that's why we love this game :-)

For me we need to look at a left back, Targett is so soft, almost afraid to put his foot in, we need warriors (see Matty Cash)!

On to West Ham, that game will suit us better as West Ham will come at us, need to regroup! Been a great start but no points from Leeds, Brighton and Southampton (AT HOME! ) is simply not good enough!

21 Nov 2020 17:20:45
Sorry but this shows why the regular posters have issues. Yes, we were naive defensively one or twice. Mcginn wasn't at his best and it showed why Jack shouldn't be central as he didn't have space.
The main thing is that while we missed a few chances, we did play well and in the end the refs stole a penalty from us.
As a former referee that is almost 100% a penalty. The connection with the ball is neither a block or controlled tackle and if not for the follow through we would have maintained control of the ball. Poor decision does not even begin to describe it, especially when he had the benefit if the review.

21 Nov 2020 17:31:29
Agreed RK, definitely a peno for me! Also, spot on regarding the game - Similar to Southampton, lapses of concentration and some world class finishing have cost us. It's not good enough losing 3 in a row at home to teams we should be beating but the performances (bar Leeds) have typically be good. We need to get a win against West Ham to Kickstart the season again!

21 Nov 2020 17:33:21
I think you have to remember the incident shortly before Lamptey was red carded. Trez clearly elbowed a Brighton defender in the face and the ref missed it.
Perhaps the VAR team mentioned that to Oliver before he looked at the replay and changed his mind.

21 Nov 2020 17:55:55
Totally agree on Trez, got away with that. At the same time Targett was elbowed right before his yellow ard also.

21 Nov 2020 18:01:39
It is what it is-a sluggish performance. Ok going forward, not at the races when defending, a few loose showings today. We can blame meaningless international breaks (which they are) but we can't have things both ways. We want better players, we get them then invariably they get called up for international duty. The clever ones are those that pull out because of injury but are fit again for their clubs and will still get selected next time. Maybe a stronger supporting cast may of allowed Deano to freshen things up a bit. Saying that Luiz has jetted to Brazil and back but still looked one of our better players today.

21 Nov 2020 18:08:58
Doug had energy and was decent overall but I really feel like he is the defining factor in the defensive naivety.
He showed at the back end of last season his strengths as a defensive mid who drops into the holes and covers the spaces. This season he is pushing further forward and leaving those gaps.

21 Nov 2020 18:17:09
Think he’s trying to do McGinn’s job as well, who was a passenger for large parts of the game. I’m amazed he wasn’t substituted.

21 Nov 2020 18:31:29
Mcginn was definitely off it tonight and think Smith should have brought Conor on for Barkley and left Traore as the impact sub.
I still think any other day we have 4 or 5 and win the match. Too many glorious chances to bemoan the performance, just didn't take them for once.

21 Nov 2020 18:31:35
McGinn was poor today, gave the ball away cheaply on numerous occasions and you know it's not your day when Jack does the same. I observed Mings closely today and in one 5 minute period every ball he played to his fellow defenders was behind them causing them to turn back and slow our movement forward. I know its probably picking flies but one day it would be nice when Mings and McGinn, great servants that they are, no longer see themselves as being untouchable and it may stop the sometimes lacklustre performances they put in.

21 Nov 2020 18:49:42
Think RK has hit the nail on the head with every post here.

21 Nov 2020 20:15:53
Think everyone watching agreed judging by socials, not just Villa fans, everyone, it was as clear cut penalty as you’ll see! Just because you touch the ball, if you don’t “get” the ball, if you take the man after, it’s a foul. The ball stayed directly infront of Trez, if the player doesn’t clip him he gets a shot away.

Plain and simple by the rule book it’s a foul everywhere on the pitch.

21 Nov 2020 17:04:56
Michael Oliver villa v Palace last season, same ref v Brighton this season. Coincidence that these decisions go against us? Absolutely not.

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21 Nov 2020 17:11:49
Thought the Palace ref was Kevin Friend rk .

21 Nov 2020 17:31:01
Oliver was involved there as well though where he had the opportunity to overrule the ref.

21 Nov 2020 15:19:49
Honestly, we're only 15 minutes in but already we're on the back foot against an inferior team. When will these players learn you have to maintain high levels whether it's against Arsenal or Brighton. You can't just turn up and expect teams to roll over. You have to earn it.

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21 Nov 2020 15:50:26
Surely you're joking right? Other than 1 piece of naive defending where nobody stayed back we've absolutely battered them.
I'm not sure its possible to play like this again and be losing.

21 Nov 2020 15:56:45
Since they scored yes we have created chances but why wait 'til they score?
Both teams look very dodgy at the back too.

21 Nov 2020 16:03:57
We were creating and had way more possession before then, part of the reason our defenders allowed themselves to get dragged up the pitch.

21 Nov 2020 16:25:27
How many goals have we conceded in the last 3 home games? 9. 9! That's what I'm talking about.

21 Nov 2020 17:09:27
Your not talking about that though are you Johnny, you described a game over fifteen minute, and that description was different to everyone else watching the villa.

21 Nov 2020 08:51:45
Today is Aston Villas birthday and it's nice to see William Mcgregors grave has been tidied up by some Villa fans Our club is steeped in history and I for one feel privileged to support my great football club. Happy Birthday Aston Villa.

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21 Nov 2020 09:48:01
And so say all of us Daz 👍.

21 Nov 2020 10:01:49
Perfect birthday present for the club is 3 points this afternoon 👍.

21 Nov 2020 12:00:36
Agreed Daz, Happy Birthday Aston Villa 👍.

Review Of The Day 21st November 2020

21 Nov 2020 07:39:23
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20 Nov 2020 14:16:44
Whats this rubbish about grealish being the new gascoigne. he's the first jack grealish, unique and in 10 years theyl be saying joe bloggs is like the new jack grealish UTV.

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20 Nov 2020 14:51:30
Totally agree NV, we are all individuals mate.
I hate tags and labels, Gascoigne was great in his day, Just as Jack is great today.
I remember someone on here comparing Grealish to George Best, they make you laugh.

20 Nov 2020 15:36:40
NV I hear Joe Bloggs has already been scouted by Brentford, perhaps we should get in there quick 🤔😁 and yes Grealish is unique but comparisons to Gascoigne show he's held in high regard, he's just got to sort out the drinking now 😂😂😂.


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