Aston Villa Banter Archive June 01 2016 to July 01 2016

01 Jul 2016 21:55:38
shouldn't laugh really but benteke season gets worse and worse. leave to go to a better team, win stuff and play in champs league,

his season has ended with sod all time off the bindippers bench, won as mch for them as he did for us and now his countrys out the euros with him only managing 10mins in 5 games, and now he look like he off to palace for 25mill.

01 Jul 2016 22:40:21
I'm laughing at him. Typical foreign mercenary. Thought he was better than us and now at palace. Lol.

02 Jul 2016 00:08:35
What are you on about? The guy was great for us. Someone put it in a bid for him and the club accepted. He didn't sleep with your wife, steal your car or bully your children; he got the offer of a higher profile, better paid job, which as it happens, didn't work out for him. That's all.
If he came back you'd be high fiving and backflipping down the highstreet.

02 Jul 2016 00:15:27
Your right, what a clown he must be, palace? Jesus, that prem league club, 1/ 4 finals of euros, and his head held high.
We really stuck it him there! .

02 Jul 2016 00:56:55
Single handed kept villa from being relegated repeatedly and now getting mocked? Ludicrous.

02 Jul 2016 08:35:27
Ah I'm not feeling the love after my last comment lol. I'm glad it didn't work for him at Liverpool and that he only got a few mins of football at the euros. No doubting the guys abilities, but am sick of players that always have one eye on the door or an offer of more money. No loyalty in these f***ers.

Even that little runt Delph and now you have Ayew giving it 'god will decide'

I was born a villa fan and will die a villa fan enjoying the good times and enduring the bad. Unlike many on our team over the years.

02 Jul 2016 09:31:02
It's because your last comment was petty and small minded. All the attributes we attribute with Birmingham fans.

02 Jul 2016 10:15:24
Have you never left a job for better money or even to better yourself, sometimes it works out sometimes it dosen't, maybe we could hijack palaces bid and bring big Ben back home to villa park.

02 Jul 2016 12:33:37
You say petty. I say agitated. We are too big a club to have to keep selling. Am sick of players with their eye on the next big thing. To answer your question of course I have moved for betterment and more money, but I am not carrying the hopes and aspirations of tens of thousands when I turn up for work each (only thousands in my case lol)

These mercenaries do not understand or accept the ethos of our great club and I'd rather not have them at our. How can you build a team when at any moment a player refuses to sit on the bench or tries to activate his release clause.

Total joke.

02 Jul 2016 18:34:57
And Benteke did neither of those things. Lerner wanted to sell him, so much so that he let Liverpool off with complying to the terms of the buyout clause
(i. e they didn't offer £32 mil cash, but in stage payments)
I don't think what you said is petty because you are frustrated; I'm with you there mate; I think it's petty that you would rejoice in a man's perceived misfortune as some sort of antidote for that sense of frustration.

01 Jul 2016 21:02:03
Di Matteo promoted 3 youth players to the first team and all links to attackers are older more teachers than players I. E. Lambert, Berbatov. Starting to think we're going to look from within the club to find new attacking options and bring players in to help guide the team and not necessarily be main stays in the first team.

01 Jul 2016 13:31:17
I see Eric Black has joined Southampton. God help them. The young Italian keeper used to be on the books of Man Utd. Haven't been on here for while, serving at her Majestys pleasure but UTV!

01 Jul 2016 14:52:11
A royal sex toy?

{Ed001's Note - be careful, have you not heard it is a 'serious breach' to make jokes about the Royals' sex lives? That in itself does lend itself to a few puns....}

01 Jul 2016 18:55:12
To be fair ed I had a prince william experience recently and couldn't see all the fuss. Was down in county cork and traffic was so bad I spent a good hour stuck in Middleton unable to move lol.

{Ed001's Note - hahaha,.}

01 Jul 2016 19:40:16
Jesus, (ed01) I asked a serious question, I just wondered if 97davey had a part time job over the spring time.

{Ed001's Note - sorry mate, I should not have doubted you, I was just worried after the BBC got in trouble for making jokes about the Queen's sex life.}

01 Jul 2016 19:41:04
Perhaps the utv was an explanation?!

01 Jul 2016 10:37:42
I have to say I am bitterly disappointed that Classof82 has been slacking lately in the provision of bizarre and unsubstantiated rumours from his decidedly dodgy insider-sources. Come on Classof82 - get a grip, were all waiting. Also, you still need to get that class size down .

01 Jul 2016 07:42:52
Rdm knew he was getting the job 6 weeks ago he's had time to know who were the dead wood at villa, watch what happens over the next 2 weeks regarding transfers, i know your all frustrated about lack of signings but give it a little time rdm knows what he's doing, rdm has total control over who comes in, last season we were all ecstatic about the 10 signings and look how that turned out, slow and steady wins the race trust me he's wants players who are committed to the cause not just here for a pay check.

01 Jul 2016 09:06:32
Kingy? Is that you?

01 Jul 2016 00:41:37
Right then pilgrims, i have heard from a very unreliable source that rdm has at least 5 deals in the offing, the players want to be part of 'the project' and are willing to live within 50 miles of stan collymore, on a shoot first, don't bother asking questions later basis! the only thing holding it up is getting someone in the hallowed halls to okay the outlay.

now, i don't know who is signing things off anymore but my lazy, good for nothing, unreliable source says other clubs are beginning to sniff around too. so how about we actually get on with it.

now i've been accused of being a bit too optimistic in the past, what with all my optimism and all that, but the window is now open so let's go and help the economy out! by the way, we only want positive energy now. mine's almost run out what with me carrying you lot on my broad shoulders of enthusiasm! crack on boys!

30 Jun 2016 19:37:22
Sly news interviewed sir bobby Charlton and asked him how the England team of 1966 would have done against the current Iceland team. He said 'we'd have beaten them one - nil. Reporter asked him, 'only one - nil? Charlton replied, ' well to be fair most of us are in our 70's now. Lol.

01 Jul 2016 08:54:39
didnt dennis law make the same joke about utd last season?

30 Jun 2016 10:40:38
So are villa going to make any signings any time soon, or just wait till all the decent proven players are gone? Newcastle getting Gayle and Ritchie soon both proven championship quality, look to be having Medicals and we're being linked with Ricky Lambert, Berbatov and anyone else you'll find at the bottom of the barrel! I'm sure King villa said "exciting 3 weeks ahead" well the three weeks is nearly up an nothing has happened.

30 Jun 2016 15:50:48
All we do as fans in moan. We're not getting Gayle or Ritchie . And what's the issue?

We're linked to players but no one is having a medical again what's the issue?

Rafa Benitez worked with his group of players last year, so he know the short falls in the Newcastle squad and what he needs .

RDM has not worked with the squad, they have only just arrived back from holidays . Let him asses what he has,
also see who is willing to stay and fight for the cause then bring in what he needs.

We have thrown money away with the previous owners . Let's make sure we get it right before throwing money away again

In essence we have Grealish, Traore and Ayew who are in the right team with the right set up pretty good players maybe equal . But all of them need to show the desire and commitment to take us back to the PL . If not get rid

But it's been 2 days after the squad returned!

30 Jun 2016 18:03:27
Agreed kenn.

30 Jun 2016 18:46:32
Good point, well made.

30 Jun 2016 19:16:51
Oh god mendax, we both agreed with his point, wait for the pelters!

30 Jun 2016 19:51:55
Proof obviously its all rigged, shame on you both!

30 Jun 2016 20:47:57
Win, lose or draw I'm VTID

Presently we are like a decrepit vintage car, it will take time to restore. It won't be an overnight thing. But when we're done we will shine like a new penny

I would prefer it to take time to weed out the poison. Get the right mix of management and playing staff and then put villa back where we should be .

Just let RDM get through the door and take his time to see what he needs . Then move forward

We all need to stop moaning and just back the owner, manager and playong staff as opposed to barracking them.

30 Jun 2016 21:16:58
Haha classof82! How dare you!

30 Jun 2016 22:00:57
You're not paranoid Classof82. Me and Flackie are really after you.

01 Jul 2016 00:29:46
I knew it was true mendax when the milk bottle told me that this morning as we chatted over breakfast!

01 Jul 2016 00:44:27
Kenn these are wise words indeed.
RdM and Clarke are no mugs in my opinion and I'm sure that they will have some aces up their sleeves.
By the way Eric Black new Asst Manager at the Saints nearly chocked on my garlic bread when I heard this one. How does the man do it?

01 Jul 2016 00:44:27
Kenn these are wise words indeed.
RdM and Clarke are no mugs in my opinion and I'm sure that they will have some aces up their sleeves.
By the way Eric Black new Asst Manager at the Saints nearly chocked on my garlic bread when I heard this one. How does the man do it?

30 Jun 2016 00:02:53
I thought we had a massive war chest to spend well it looks like carp Newcastle signing gayle come on villa if we want back in the big time we have to spend other wise we will be in league 1.

29 Jun 2016 22:22:32
Please no Villa, if McCormack is deemed to expensive for his age or whatever do not go and spend money on Ricky Lambert, please no. Also if McCormack is too expensive why didn't we persue Gayle and have let him go to the Magpies? Hopefully we do get McCormack and of not Bamford or someone with a good championship goal scoring record, preferably one that's not on his last legs and a month away from a hip replacement.

29 Jun 2016 20:19:11
Is anyone gutted we didn't sign gayle because iam he would of been quality hope we don't miss out on mccormac else we will struggle to score goals . i think gested will bang the goals in this season he did ok last term with little service . also does anyone know wots going on with jordon aweu.

29 Jun 2016 21:14:41
so gutted his better than ross mcormack 29 we really needed him are we really gona pay 10 mill 4 a 29 year old worlds gone mad they paid that 2 years ago 4 him.

29 Jun 2016 21:40:55
Paying 10.11.12.or 15 million is a bargain long term. providing he gets the service he will get 25 plus goals. so forget his age. he is being brought to the club to get aston villa promoted nothing else. promotion will be worth 160 million tv money etc. spending 15 million now is a great investment in my humble opinion.

29 Jun 2016 23:17:40
We will go for mcormack, Newcastle have Revealed their hand by going for Gayle, while Villa have been clever and waited for the better player in my book. Mcormack is experienced, proven and still able with the right service. We need a striker to fire us back and he's the man even if its £12 or £15million get him in now! Lambert maybe as back up could be an option and then a number of good solid positions filled and a flying winger to go with Adama T.

{Ed003's Note - hal robson kanu ?? }

29 Jun 2016 15:03:09
We really should be going in for players like Kemar Roofe of Oxford.
This guy has got it all, born in Walsall and has to be worth a shout, I suppose you could call him a rough diamond, but RDM could polish him up nicely I think.
He can play on treacle and bowling greens, so a perfect fit for the Championship.
Go get him Villa, he will go far given the opportunity.

29 Jun 2016 16:56:04
Totally agree, he is ready for the step up - I'd take Calum O'Dowda of their hands as well, he looks very promising.

29 Jun 2016 17:25:07
yeh for sure.

29 Jun 2016 19:30:39
Looks like a few clubs will want him. Love it if we went an got the lad, along with a few more exciting prospects. I'm hoping we don't end up buying a bunch of experienced players but more of an equal balance of the two. The Walsall left back/ winger would be near the top of my shopping list too.

29 Jun 2016 18:34:38
Kemar roofe will cost at least 5-9 million, if ross mcshortmack will cost 12-15 million you got to start thinking budget, so if ross makes the pilgrimage then we have 15 mill (in theory), we've already spent 3 mill on boon's boy, so 12 mill roughly to buy at least 5 players, you can see rdm's logic for r. lambert, time to sell again unfortunately, unless dr. x forks out, my bet, gueye to marsailles, amavi maybe loaned out, see ya veretout, adieu to ayew and maybe westwood too, wheel and deal time me thinks.

29 Jun 2016 11:24:32
Maybe a cheeky bid for Charlie Austin long and pelle surely ahead of him in pecking order £10m
Id love to see a midfield general like somebody that loves to get stuck into a tackle to break up the play help to back line a bit a Keane or a Vieira type.

29 Jun 2016 15:18:46
Made this idea sometime back and got little agreement.

29 Jun 2016 00:29:05
If you see a blue nose on a bicycle why should you not swerve to hit him?

It could be your bike.

28 Jun 2016 21:39:23
Leaked photos of the new villa kits, must say away shirt looks very good.

28 Jun 2016 20:20:51
Did you know that it's possible for the price of sterling to crash twice in one day? First on the currency markets and then secondly after that performance on the pitch against Iceland lol.

28 Jun 2016 20:53:43
Blimey Irishvilla are you trying to de-throne Dave Allan.

28 Jun 2016 21:25:16
I'm honoured to be mentioned in the same sentence as the man. He was a comedy genius.

28 Jun 2016 13:46:03
Am I right in thinking. The team report back for duty tomorrow? If so I think a week to assess the squad then the recruiting should go up a gear and the ins and outs begin. Not Lin until the curtain raiser so hopefully we have made contact with the clubs already over possible targets to get a feel for their availability and cost.

28 Jun 2016 05:53:47
Seeing us being linked with Yeltsin Tejeda, not a very known player but i remember him playing for Costa Rica in the 2014 as a CDM but i did abit of research on him and his only played 26 games with Évian last season in the Ligue 2 (french second division) not sure what to make of this really, would much prefer Norwood from ready personally but what do you guys think?

27 Jun 2016 22:44:15
We didn't need a referendum to let us know the England team would exit Europe. Same old tripe every tournament.

27 Jun 2016 21:11:46
We are a total embarrassment!

27 Jun 2016 21:30:24
Who are?

27 Jun 2016 19:40:15
In response to Villamicks post earlier, you are not the first to express your feelings about other posters.
Villamick, this site is not about mendax and Flackie, they are two blokes with a name, they have an opinion just the same as you and I, everything they say is not gospel, trust me.
Having said that I do agree with many things they say, but again that does not make it right it`s an opinion after all.
I personally don't give a rats backside if either one of the aforementioned people don't agree with me, I have my opinions just like they do, and I will argue that point with anyone who wishes to engage.
I suggest that anyone who feels the same way as you, should man up a bit and argue your point, we all love our club, show it and speak up, this is what this site is all about, is it not.
Remember there is only one thing that all of us on here are going to agree with 100%, VILLA FOREVER.

27 Jun 2016 19:49:14
Thank you Dave.

27 Jun 2016 20:04:03
Your welcome Flacks, see I agree with you again.

27 Jun 2016 20:57:30
Has anyone agreed with me yet?

27 Jun 2016 21:16:18
I agree with you mate.

27 Jun 2016 22:07:48
I think I did, once mate.

27 Jun 2016 22:47:51
Aaahhh thanks gents.
I agree with what you say Dave. I have to say I was a little taken back when I read Villamick's post.
I think it says less about me and Flackie and more about his own self-doubt regarding his opinions. Strange, very strange
If you are worried about people disagreeing with you, don't put yourself on a public platform. It's a bit like going on Strictly and moaning that someone starts criticising your dancing.

27 Jun 2016 23:29:03
Brilliant! Haha.

27 Jun 2016 23:43:09
Wow!
Wish I'd never mentioned selling Ashley.
Me and my big mouth.

27 Jun 2016 13:51:36
Gabby Gabby Gabby, should he stay or should he go? All recent images of him and social media posts point towards him getting back to his best in terms of fitness (the fact that that is even a question is a joke) so if he gets his pace, attitude and hunger back I can understand an argument for him to stay. However with the effect he can have on the dressing room and his attitude the last few seasons I can also see the argument for him to leave.

27 Jun 2016 15:53:59
He's a joke and he needs to go- look at Petrov he managed to go and work really hard and get fit whiles Gabby was stuffing his face- it should be the other way round.

27 Jun 2016 16:04:06
Too risky I think chris, he is too long in the tooth now and has been part of the furniture far too long.
So I think we should get rid and look forward with new talent in our dressing rooms, after all he has never been prolific in front of goal has he!, in the last 3 seasons the guy has scored 11goals in 85 games, that’s very poor for a front man.
My goodness I wish I had the chance to play for the team I have supported all my life as he has.
I don’t think he cares anymore, he is void of ideas, can`t get rid of the ball quick enough, and lacks any finesse, has to go.
He is no legend and never will be in my opinion, and as I have posted before he is a player who has fooled us all and has got by on pace alone.

27 Jun 2016 16:16:43
I can't even understand the notion of having a debate about it. He has to go.

27 Jun 2016 01:44:46
Yeltsin tejeda anyone? defensive midfielder plays for evian-costa rican-apparently, we're putting an offer in!

27 Jun 2016 08:25:34
Hi guys reading all the news about players and seen that canos from Liverpool can leave for £2.4 million would be a good signing also need to sign up this keeper from juve and gayle from palace before Newcastle.

27 Jun 2016 10:30:37
Keeper from Juve? Buffon? Do you think he would be interested in a move to Villa, I've heard he's pretty good. He's not as young as he used to be but worth a punt. 😉.

27 Jun 2016 10:56:49
Leali is who he is referring to.

26 Jun 2016 10:54:16
We won't do the dance again ed as age doesn't bring wisdom or intelligence. It often brings stubbornness lol.

Freedom of movement worries me. If the European migrants aren't allowed into Britain the same could be argued for footballers. Certainly youth players like fabregas was.

{Ed001's Note - I fail to see the issue with that, there are youth academies.}

26 Jun 2016 16:07:45
Are they the same youth academies that the likes of Weismann came through? Weismann who would no longer be eligible ed? Or pogba for example. You might see where this is going ed. I see millions are signing up for a new referendum in Britain already lol.

{Ed001's Note - they did not go through the academies, they were acquired as adults. As for those morons who are too immature to accept democracy when it doesn't give the result they want, they don't deserve to have the vote. Either abide by the result or don't get the right to choose in future, that is how it should be. You can't just throw your toys out of your pram because it didn't go your way.}

26 Jun 2016 17:02:53
Can I suggest you buy CDs from now on irishvilla, they don't stick like records.

26 Jun 2016 18:05:50
Ed and now flack I'm only up for discussion . Result doesn't hold one problem for me as i'm in ireland snuggled up nice and warm to the bussom of Europe lol. I'm just worried for my mates living in blighty. I'm guessing both of you voted leave though :-)

{Ed001's Note - you would be guessing wrong.}

26 Jun 2016 18:20:56
You voted to stay?

{Ed001's Note - no, I never voted as I am not in the country, so don't feel it is my place to make the decision. My health makes it highly unlikely I will ever return to the UK so it is not up to me.}

26 Jun 2016 18:21:57
Actually no, I didn't!
But I'm proud of the fact we live in a democratic society, and accept with dignity the result, I'm proud we don't harp on about the wrong result, what might happen, or what might not.
But then I'm in England snuggles to the bussom of my democratic brothers, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

{Ed001's Note - wow, glad someone accepts it with dignity. LinkedIn is full of whining people who seem to assume the country is about to implode for no reason whatsoever. It is not like it existed for thousands of years before the EU or anything.}

26 Jun 2016 18:25:23
Is this still a villa banter page?

26 Jun 2016 18:41:00
Here here craiggers!

26 Jun 2016 18:44:40
Well it may have feck all to do with footie, but banter was had lol. I was in England recently to meet hrh princess anne. Loved the place, hope it doesn't change.

26 Jun 2016 20:05:30
To be fair flackie, NI and Scotland voted to stay I the EU. All I'm saying is that if they're given the chance do you think they'll be happy to remain as part of that democratic brotherhood?

And FYI you'll never win a political debate with an Irishman.

26 Jun 2016 20:18:55
I agree, however, as a democratic society, you may find they accept the result as is, and rather than try to change the out come, will try to get independence, for which I wouldn't blame them!
But how ever as far as I can tell, they are not posting everywhere reliving it!

26 Jun 2016 20:20:03
Ya better believe it.

Tiocfaidh ár lá.

26 Jun 2016 20:32:32
Your completely right Flackie. They are not posting on here as the scottish fish is too busy writing legislation for a second independence vote lol.

26 Jun 2016 20:38:13
Funny though, the Irish got knocked out of Europe twice this week.

26 Jun 2016 20:45:23
Twice Flackie? Do tell.

26 Jun 2016 20:46:10
I wouldn't blame them!
You say it as though that should bother, or scare me!
I'm not, and also I would want my own independence if I was them.

26 Jun 2016 20:53:40
Once, Referendum
Twice, France/ Wales.

26 Jun 2016 20:54:20
Sorry, I introduced football to this football forum.
My mistake.

26 Jun 2016 21:01:48
Just to take this political stuff a bit further. If NI and Scotland want a referendum they think will allow them to leave the UK, then surely from this point forward, their MP's shouldn't be allowed to vote on matters that effect England and Wales who voted out? Sorry I'm still on politics, just that I don't bother with social media and the Mrs is thick as when it comes to this stuff lol. &. Would love to hear ClassOf82's view on all this 🤔

UTV.

26 Jun 2016 21:17:56
I wish I had never asked now. We don't need any more reasons to argue among ourselves, Villa matters are plenty enough.

26 Jun 2016 22:11:59
Two posts blocked. I guess freedom of speech is muted on here.

{Ed002's Note - There weren't any blocked posts until now. Idiot.}

27 Jun 2016 08:41:45
Irishvilla do u live in the north?

27 Jun 2016 09:21:15
where I am, the corner shop is owned and manned by British, the pub is British - in fact everyone around me is British! Oh I do love being in Spain.

27 Jun 2016 09:28:33
No craiggers I'm in the south. Dublin.

Ed you're very cranky these days. Re your idiot comment. I've a masters in education and am about to commence a PhD next year. I posted a valid coment and it didn't appear.

{Ed001's Note - it wasn't me that called you an idiot, but being educated does not make you intelligent. I deal with some very highly educated people who are incredibly stupid, but have hundreds of letters after their name.

I would suggest, instead of making idiotic comments about freedom of speech and blocked comments, you instead read our terms and conditions and understand them. Plus take some time to understand that it is also perfectly possible that a 'valid comment' might get lost due to dropped connections, server issues etc, even if we would have chosen to allow it on the site otherwise.}

27 Jun 2016 09:45:49
Must have a look at your terms so.

27 Jun 2016 10:56:32
How did 2 irish teams get knick out of the euros flackie the north are more like the English b team have the English flag English national anthem.

27 Jun 2016 11:41:09
Right ed had a quick flick through terms etc. so who decides which posts get put up and which get kept off here?

{Ed001's Note - the editor who picks up the post.}

27 Jun 2016 11:46:37
Jesus mick thanks for that. I genuinely did have the foggiest when Flackie was banging on about Wales. Thought I must have missed one of our group games lol.

27 Jun 2016 12:18:31
Just to check as didn't read in the terms or may have missed, what are the guidelines for a post to be withheld from going up?

26 Jun 2016 01:22:47
plz Rdm let the dwight gayle deal be true his one of them best prem strikers just need a chance defoe the 2nd. heard burnley want rudy justhead 6 million i think we should sell we have libor kozak.

26 Jun 2016 09:50:57
I fully agree with the Dwight Gayle bit of your post but not about selling Ruddy Gestede. Gestede is proven to score goals at that level and Kozak isn't. £6m for a proven striker to then take a chance of spending that £6m and hope you buy someone proven is a risk. Gayle and Gestede together could score a lot of goals in that division.

25 Jun 2016 15:02:40
Hi guys just wondering if anyone knows if we are keeping jack grealish and traore . i'm looking foward to season in championship think we could do very well with everything that's going on at villa its a new start for everyone . I hope we get rid of the clowns that were crap mainly the klingon bacuna richards an flabby an guzan . wot are your thoughts for new season an who do u think we should sign. in rdm we trust could be a great manager .

27 Jun 2016 08:26:17
Its obvious we need a top goalscorer, realistically I would hope for Gayle or McCormack as they both want to leave current clubs and are of record great goal getters. I would also look to sign another winger, apart from Traore there isn't really another out and out winger at our club. Maybe a Matt Phillips or Nathan Dyer would help boost the clubs options going forward. I would also suggest a cm as gueye is most likely looking to leave, Tshibola from Reading has been linked but what about the Hungary CDM from the euros, solid player doesn't misplace a pass and just sits infront of the back four, worth a punt? The last few years we have had utter shit in goal, Guzan was good the first couple of years but has rapidly gone downhill with stupid errors that have cost us. Anyone would really do in goal, Pantilimon would be a bargain at the right price, also Marshall from Cardiff, pulled of some worldy saves when in the prem so either of them would be great.

25 Jun 2016 12:16:51
Any one else worried about lack of transfer activity in or out at villa park or am I jumping gun too soon thought lescot bacuna guzan gabby would have been released by now and thought we would have signed a lb rb cm and striker.

25 Jun 2016 13:45:13
Releasing players takes money an we ain't got any till we sell some players.

25 Jun 2016 15:39:11
How can you say we got no money when we just been bought worst post I've seen in donkey's! !

25 Jun 2016 16:08:16
We have been taken over yes, that though is no confirmation that we have money to spend I'm afraid.

25 Jun 2016 17:16:32
Well have we or have we not just spent 3 mill? I'm wasting my time aren't I?

25 Jun 2016 17:31:20
The owner had to prove he had money yo take villa forward if he didn't he would not of gotten accepted, now stop you moaning,

25 Jun 2016 19:08:00
All you need to prove to the FA is that you have enough money to operate for 2 years

We could be getting 20-30 mil from players leaving the club, I'd be very surprised if we spent that on players comin into the club.

24 Jun 2016 19:32:26
Does anyone have any thoughts on how/ if the Brexit will affect things football related? Is Xia going to have as much money to put in or the same willingness to invest. Will it become more difficult to attract foreign players etc.

24 Jun 2016 20:20:34
This is 1 for KingVilla, myself I'm up £100 on betting leave, winner winner chicken dinner 👍🏻

UTV.

24 Jun 2016 21:22:42
Well beeb splurt are claiming that foreign players will want more wages due to the devaluation of the pound and that transfer fees will rise, on top of potential issues with granting work permits.

Lets hope Kingy can shed more light on this :)

25 Jun 2016 09:10:32
Thinking of it another way. Less foreign players wanting to come over = more homegrown players allowed the chance to come through = a stronger England team, perhaps?

UTV.

25 Jun 2016 10:30:34
Lads having a stronger England team is a bloody poor substitute for a poorer league. Remember trying to sign the goalkeeper in January. You remember the guy that may have kept us up, but due to permit issues was a no go. Now apply that to players like ronaldo, berkamp, Henry, ballack. Think it's going to damage the football league.

The league is minor compared to the damage brexit will do to Britain. Hope I'm wrong lads, but over in ireland here we are horrified you've left. London finance have suggested they will relocate to ireland which will take billions out of your finances.

{Ed001's Note - Ronaldo, Bergkamp, Henry and Ballack would all easily get work permits. Pointless scare mongering to suggest this is going to affect the league when you have no idea how the split will work from the EU.}

25 Jun 2016 10:39:44
Not trying to scare monger in anyway. I'm throwing it out there for thoughts from others on here.

{Ed001's Note - you were trying to scare monger, claiming it will cause damage with no evidence that it will. There is no way of knowing whether it will do so or if it will reinforce national identity, which is what makes the English league so popular. It is not like anywhere else in the world, the Prem, even though flooded with foreign imports, still has a unique flavour to it. Brexit could make it even stronger and more popular worldwide. Or it could totally rip it to shreds. No one knows and all the crap in the papers is just that - crap. They talk about house prices dropping, which just means more people can afford to buy a house, which will make for a stronger market, which will increase prices. The pound goes weak, means that exports will increase, strengthening the pound. It is all swings and roundabouts, there is no damage and there is no London finance houses relocating. It is all made up bull.}

25 Jun 2016 10:42:04
Do you think the French/ Germans will make it easy for Britain? I think they will make an example to scare others from considering leaving.

25 Jun 2016 10:50:01
Gonna throw out there Morgan Stanley. Not some non league player, but a major financial in London are looking at dublin or Frankfurt to relocate after brexit. Only takes one or two leave for a domino affect to happen.

{Ed002's Note - Nonsense from Twitter or somesuch social media source.}

25 Jun 2016 01:37:02
Beeb Splurt - nice one ed.

25 Jun 2016 11:08:51
On a lighter note gents:

Marriage and children is like being in the European Union. Someone else claims my money. I can't make the decisions I used to as others now decide what's best for me. My home has been taken over by other people. They don't contribute anything economically, but to be fair they do create lots of jobs.

25 Jun 2016 11:34:35
I actually have a theory that nationalism and triumphism from the success of the home nations in the euros has played a part in the brexit vote. Also Scotland aren't I it an look how they voted!

25 Jun 2016 11:57:26
You know ed I'm a fairly calm methodical sort of guy. I find it very hard to accept your 'scare mongering' suggestion. I've been watching this closely for some time and it is unusual that all major parties swing in behind a vote, but this time they did. Obviously you don't include idiots like boris or farage as they are comical figures of fun.

You may lose all the welfare seekers that are arriving in Britain, but the investment will go as well. Scotland and Northern Ireland will vote to break the union, which is a shame as most here don't want the north back lol. (We couldn't afford to keep them) .

The ostrich approach of head in the sand scare mongering is poor at best. Financials are dumping british shares and the pound is crashing. You decide better off in or out.

25 Jun 2016 12:21:40
Wow, sorry guys, I must of opened the wrong page/ site.
I was sure this was a football forum, it appears I opened a political one by mistake.

The vote has happened, whether you agree or disagree with the outcome, the people have spoken.
What comes from it, good or bad, bad or good, no one knows, yet. But we can either make the best of it, and make it work, or we can sit and pick fault at it.
Today this will happen, or that this won't happen is scare mongering. As you do not know.
The pound was always going to devalue anitially, however it quickly started to recover.

Also to say we can not sign him or them as we are out is bs.
If they are good enough, they will come, if they are in need of a work permit, they can apply, if it helps the national sides, brilliant.

We are villa fans, we are not even in Europe!

What will be, will be, the club will remain, we will remain, is our support of the club not a way of getting away from day to day crap, a release, yet we are now letting the paths cross?!
Jesus!

25 Jun 2016 12:23:03
No one knows how this is going to pan out but at least we had the balls to do it, the EU should of let us have our own way a bit more, arrogance on their part for thinking that we wouldn't leave, then this wouldn't of happened? Back to football, having a strong national side is a good thing for any country's morale and the economy, cricket, rugby and athletics can be included in that

UTV.

25 Jun 2016 12:42:22
Is a very courageous, brave decision. No one can argue that, but then the same could be said for the charge of the light brigade.

25 Jun 2016 14:17:24
Some of the topics here are way off what I was asking. I didn't want a political debate just whether or not football and Villa specifically could feel the initial effects whilst we try and rebuild our club this summer.

{Ed002's Note - It will make no difference.}

25 Jun 2016 14:40:13
Does this mean we can't import Gabby to the furthest part of the EU from B6 now? Dang! 👎🏻

UTV.

25 Jun 2016 17:50:37
If we buy good solid players from the Brittish Isles we should be ok, if foreign players want more money because The Pound is weaker, they've got their priorities wrong and wouldn't care to have them anyway?

UTV.

24 Jun 2016 09:10:19
Have just seen reports man utd want to send Jsmes Wilson out on loan. With us their preferred destination, was a lot of hype around him years ago.

23 Jun 2016 13:07:20
Stan is BACK!

{Ed007's Note - It's fantastic news!}

23 Jun 2016 14:17:16
Brilliant news!
Hope my heart isn't ruling my head, and he really can do the business.

23 Jun 2016 17:38:09
Don't really care if he can't do the business on the pitch anymore. Having a role model like him in the dressing room instead of Lescott, Gabby et al can only be a positive thing.

23 Jun 2016 18:00:29
Totally agree!

23 Jun 2016 18:13:46
All bow to a true Villa legend. How can his presence in the squad not fail to lift everyone around him.
Stan we salute you.

23 Jun 2016 20:05:34
& lift us too

UTV.

23 Jun 2016 20:19:26
don't want to rain on anyones parade but I suspect Stan is a long way from back in terms of a playing return. Personally, I doubt that will happen. I'm really happy though that a good guy is back and well enough to train with the first team after all he has been through.

{Ed001's Note - he has been playing for a while, just not with the first team. So he might be closer than you realise.}

23 Jun 2016 20:35:59
It would be a wonderful fairytale to see him lead us out again Ed.

{Ed007's Note - There won't be a dry in in my house if that happens mate.}

23 Jun 2016 21:43:57
Would be incredible.

24 Jun 2016 01:25:01
Better re open the Trinity Upper when he puts the shirt back on and not a dry eye in the house.

24 Jun 2016 13:10:41
As long as he can do the job then great, welcome back.
However we cannot afford to let sympathy rule over common sense.
Well done Stan. Show us what you can do.

22 Jun 2016 20:30:28
Wish we get Brady and McCormack.

22 Jun 2016 22:06:19
Well I think Bradys price just went up.

22 Jun 2016 20:05:41
Anyone have any ideas what the new kits are like in terms of design?

22 Jun 2016 16:59:19
Great to hear okore wants to stay with the club. Best defender we've got in my opinion.

22 Jun 2016 17:50:17
Rate him highly with himself and elphick at the back seems solid.

22 Jun 2016 18:19:02
When Okores signed for us the "experts" said that it was the best buy of the season for any club.
We paid £4m, I think, and many German clubs were sniffing.
Yes he wanted the prem, but As said he will make a great partner with Elphick in the champs.

22 Jun 2016 13:14:36
2 home games over Christmas, Burton on Boxing Day (a derby) Leeds New Years Eve, cushty 👍🏻

UTV.

22 Jun 2016 17:47:49
is burton classed as a derby?

22 Jun 2016 18:35:54
30 miles from B6, Midlands derby,

UTV.

23 Jun 2016 00:07:11
I think Burton is classed as being quite near Derby 😀.

{Ed003's Note - I went in January,tidy little ground but don't make the mistake I did thinking it looks a small walk from the station - get a cab #edstip }

22 Jun 2016 11:52:54
Also, interesting bit of fixture planning as our home game against Small Heath FC is the third to last of the season. Wouldn't it be sweet if that was the one we won to secure promotion back to the premier and really rub their sad blue noses in it 😀.

22 Jun 2016 13:18:25
6-1 would be better. and if they needed the points to make play offs or stay up 🍾

UTV.

22 Jun 2016 08:48:51
Romaine sawyers anyone? and on a free.

21 Jun 2016 23:36:35
Hi everyone, not been on for a while. does anyone know when our new shirt will be released.
Players I think we need; a keeper 2 more defenders 2 attacking midfielders and a good 30 goal a season striker, obvious I know. saw a comment about Defoe as an option, any thoughts?

22 Jun 2016 07:42:58
Defoe no chance.
Sorry.

21 Jun 2016 11:37:19
Superb first signing - I'd make him the captain as an example of what a professional is. Whos next in through the door. Would love Hughes from Derby but would play gardner too - maybe Redmond. maybe a bid for Martin Ollsson for left back too?

22 Jun 2016 14:58:10
Ollsons nearly at Luna level!

21 Jun 2016 09:17:16
I must say, I am fairly impressed how villa is going about there business. We are sorting out the club from the top. Firstly, with some great coaching and management staff, and next step was getting a decent captain being Tommy Elphick. Eddie Howe quoted 'He is the best captain he has ever worked with. ' This is the first time in a while we have prioritized correctly and been methodical, we are getting the foundations in place to create a positive leadership atmosphere before we get rid of the muck.

21 Jun 2016 09:51:33
Well said could not agree more UTV.

21 Jun 2016 10:48:03
Great post, and couldn't agree more!
Quietly confident!
Good goal keeper, and a goal scorer, and the right things done to certain people from last year and we are on the way back!

21 Jun 2016 11:03:52
By the right things done to certain people do you mean beating them with a baseball bat Flackie as that would certainly be proper order for some last year.

21 Jun 2016 11:48:14
You read my mind! .
Lol.

20 Jun 2016 21:01:01
I'm guessing that we've signed our new captain, who's our new No9 going to be then?

UTV.

20 jun 2016 12:34:28
ok people wuestion time all get involved where will aston villa come this season under rdm?

20 Jun 2016 13:00:59
2nd place.

20 Jun 2016 13:24:53
IMO we would get play offs at least but can't really answer until all the transfers have been completed.

20 Jun 2016 17:41:46
We will win the league new points record the villa are on the up got to be positive lads utv vtid.

20 Jun 2016 17:58:50
im looking at bookies and going villa and newcastle to both be promoted automatic.

20 Jun 2016 18:04:17
Not so sure about Newcastle at the minute they are favourites yes but it's like a pantomime up there at times it can hit the fan at any minute.

20 Jun 2016 19:35:30
Champions league place! 😜.

22 Jun 2016 13:57:58
Nice one bigw123 - ' it's like a pantomime up there' - the only possible answer to that is '. OH NO IT ISN'T'

20 Jun 2016 01:45:08
T minus 47 days and counting
i think we can agree that tommy elphick is on his way (thankfully), so-whose next?

20 Jun 2016 14:31:57
Id love to see Gayle at VP, also what about Matt Phillips from QPR seen a few links with us but he's a top player.

19 Jun 2016 21:23:21
Come on if our chairman comes out an says we are minted an money ent a problem prices will rise he knows his made a mistake telling every1 how much money he was going to spend so now he's trying to play it down to get better value for money we are loaded trust me. negative Villa fans again on here again. I doubt half of you even been to the games the rubbish people talk our owner hasn't had a month here yet an you are doubting him.

19 Jun 2016 22:28:38
I doubted him from last year when he was reported to be putting an offer in for us, it was just after marseille told him to jog on, but let's not get bogged down on that score, he then decided to wait to buy us when the price 'bottomed out', yeah i can see him running us as a business; hurray you say, i say get used to huddersfield away, short arms deep pockets springs to mind, tell me how 1 man can run a minimum of 15 business'- each worth at least 500 million each (he says) and still have time to be hands on with us? we'll see haleys comet more often than him after a while meaning the men in grey suits and calculators deciding things, so yeah, take a slice of dr. tony's pie, you may not like it after a while, but its the only thing in the menu-bon appetite.

20 jun 2016 00:09:36
you should be prepared at least give the guy a chance mate he will run it as a business and it makes sense to because it is a business no matter what anybody says also its good business sense to get aston villa promoted asap so we can start making proper money and playing big teams again.

watford palace Bournemouth wba don't spend big bucks every year but they come higher than us who spent 50 million point is you don't have to spend huge amounts of cash its about getting the right players is take us forward e.g. leicester for instance won the league on hard work spent less than aston villa we need to get the structure right at the club before anything!

20 Jun 2016 07:08:06
Your right classof82, I mean what sort of businessman would wait until the price was right to come in and buy something?
What sort of person would wait to buy something when they hit rock bottom, so when they lift it back to the top they are made to be heroes?

Jesus, they guy has been here 5 minutes!

Are you just getting your point in now, so if it goes wrong you can say how you told us all so? How you never wanted him?

20 Jun 2016 09:06:04
I just don't get why people are so negative its mad. its a new era now mate bright future.

20 Jun 2016 09:17:37
People are only negative because last time it was a 'new era' Lerner was the new owner and look how that turned out, better to be optimistic though.
UTV.

20 Jun 2016 02:09:19
You are right mr. know. it. all. how much you spend should not be a barometer of measuring a team, but your wrong about spending 50 million, we only spent 12 million if you factor in benteke and the bottom feeder, but we have had years of under investment, we all know the song!, this goes back to the point i made earlier, players by nature are a simple beast, all they want is a decent wage and for the fans to appreciate them (although some are drama queens-normally the forwards), they have agents who fight gucci tooth and nail to get them as much as they can, and then their cut too, so when you start bringing in performance related contracts agents congeal like a snail covered in garlic butter.

thus as an agent you would prefer your client to get a regular big pay check as opposed to a much smaller one with the carrot of a big bonus paid for promotion-also tax implications (but i'm sure kingy would school us on that subject) so, thus if we want us up asap, then i think we need to ditch the performance contracts and stick with the bog standard ones otherwise we're going to loose out on players-for example that swedish forward looks like he's going to leeds now, you work out why, it ain't that difficult, but then again i'm probably talking pants!

20 Jun 2016 09:44:15
A salient point you make there flackie, but for me, a hero is one who comes to the rescue before a terrible act happens, i believe randy was prepared to take 85 million (apologies if i got that price wrong there) so he has saved himself roughly 10 million, indeed not a figure to be sniffed at, but for me i believe we would probably have been in a better position financially and not as withstanding as an asset if we had stayed in the premier league, qudos and almost legend status would have been his, we would have had a bigger piece of the pie and i believe been able to not only keep what talent we have, but build and invest on new players too, as for not wanting him i fear i must plead guilty, not because he is chinese, but because of how this whole sale has left a sour taste, how respected figures in football have decided to walk away and how our new board members seem to sail extremely close to the wind so as to attract interest from u.s. authorities.

i just don't want the integrity of the club sullied and dragged down, the history of our club demands that surely, well, for me and hopefully you fellas too, it just that statements have been made and now their moving the goalposts (no pun intended), maybe your right and the negativity is taking away from this brand new dawn, maybe not knowing is bliss.

i just want my club up where it belongs on solid foundations, not on the whim of a business man who alludes to having partial and full ownership of 20+ business', i think we and other clubs have seen the result of that scenario, so how about this, i, and my black cloud will step to the sidelines and remain (miserable! ) impartial, not commenting for the next month and a half, no smug comments or inuendo, and hopefully be back on when all our wheelings and dealings are done and see how ambitious we've been (and i really hope we are), now me and the cloud can't be fairer than that, can we!

20 Jun 2016 13:41:16
I don't doubt or disagree with that, but the fact is, we are not, and we have been sold as a championship club.
You seem to be writing this guy off before he has got through the door!

20 Jun 2016 19:58:24
In the 'real' world, performance related contracts should be a good thing? and it should be across the board, every team, say £10K basic, and sky's the limit in bonuses, depending on who you play for and what they're prepared to pay, watch them try then! But we live in a parallel universe where Rooney gets £250K a week and scores less than half the goals he used to, and just about scrapes an FA Cup win after a few trophy less seasons, madness 😡

UTV.

19 Jun 2016 16:10:34
The new manager will have around 30 million plus to bring new talent to villa park this summer. villa board member just after the takeover never gave rdm a number about how much money he can spend. i told him he must be careful. dr. tony speaking yesterday, crikey, seems them goalposts are shifting double-lively already.

champions league in 3 years time, NON Championship in 3 years time a distinct possibility, for a man with his eyes 'wide open' about football, he hasn't got a danny la rue about building a team and the time it takes, what are the chances there'll be a game show over in china soon.

yes, and the winner gets a 2 year contract to play for Aston Villa, this ain't, right, wyness has been brought in to change our structure and give out performance related contracts, low pay but massive bonuses for stuff like promotion, great you say;gives them hunger and desire, bad, because it promotes no sense of loyalty, here today gone tomorrow attitude, some players are confidence driven, not going to do well under this type of regime, our youth;who are our future, how they going to get a game, the manager won't trust them, no loyalty either, we'll just get mercenaries.

i hear marcusson (i think that's the forwards name from sweden we're after) favours going to leeds, a club in turmoil with an owner who changes a manager like changing a tv channel, now why would he do that, ask yourself why, we're bigger (no discourtesy to leeds fans) and we have more financial clout (not so sure now), its simple, we've started doing things the wrong way already, the wrong way to attract footballers, but the right way to run a business, the thing is football isn't like any other business, but again, our new overseer knows this and has the answers.

looks like no trip to old trafford for a bit longer than this season me thinks-and before you all stamp your feet in unison, look at what's been promised and said, and look what we're doing, its all smoke and mirrors-and that's a reality check whether you like it or lump it.

19 Jun 2016 17:45:23
Think I'll lump it like mash get smash potatoes.

19 Jun 2016 18:37:55
But surely let's say. in the next couple of years we get back in prem. Then an only then can we start doing things the right way? If we're going to pay massive bonus to secure promotion this season. Then I say happy days. once we're back where we belong we can get right sort players who want to play for our great club. until then, we got haven't a lot offer. It maybe the wrong but surely the quickest way back.

19 Jun 2016 18:58:09
I hit agree by accident i thought it was for the post by villa daz as i too will lump it and wait and see. No offence because we are all villa bros but don't be so negative you read to much into things. This is what we've been waiting for (except relegation) a buy out from someone who talks the talk unless you would perefer an owner to come in and say we are happy with the club as it is and have no intention of getting promoted so thers no cash and were hiring mickey mouse and goofy to run the team. Weve managed to bag a couple of gems with both di matteo and clarke it can only start from ther regardless of what player bonuses ther may be to perform i'm happy so far so up the villa literally.

19 Jun 2016 23:11:10
Here's a radical idea for any Villa fans out there who may be considering posting some negative scaremonger chat about who not to buy because he ain't no good. Or the owner is a con man with no money and all "beware the ides of March" crap. Why not ponder a while on the season ahead with a cheery smile and get behind the club and cheer us back to the Prem.
Just a thought.

19 Jun 2016 22:44:49
Totally agree rdm and clarkey are a godsend, as for mickey mouse and goofy, their on the board mate, as for negativity, if the owner says 1 thing when in the process of buying the club (since april i might add), uses a vetenary surgeon to be the fit and proper person to get deal through, the vet resigns and disappears, the vets ex-business partner then steps out into the light and joins the board with two more of his cronies, they all talk the talk, but their previous business dealings do not do the walk, i'll ask you this, if i run a business and let it go into adminstration because i refuse to pay creditors 17 grand;would you hand me over the keys to run your business which runs into the 100's of millions-i think not, and what favour did he do which would make dr. xia agree to this;time will tell but for me, he ain't no rainmaker.

20 Jun 2016 15:31:02
So if he is a very shrewd businessman and as has been mentioned he has bought us at a rock bottom price he has one aim. Get us promoted and reestablished in the Prem and then sell the club at a healthy profit. Not break the club up get relegated and lose a large amount of his investment. Let's not be tainted by the last regime and embrace a new beginning. Remember that without this investment we would be looking at successive relegations for sure. Now I actually look forward to the window and a season of possibilities.

19 Jun 2016 08:36:12
Remember in those old panto's when you were kids, and there was a chinese character in it, and he used to do the laundry for people, yeah that's right, you could say his character was a launderer. just thought i'd share some memories (before old age makes me forget! ) its a funny old world isn't it;now what was his name .

19 Jun 2016 16:39:14
Sounds like alzheimer, s has already set in.

19 Jun 2016 17:00:45
Wishy Washy 👍🏻

UTV.

19 Jun 2016 22:46:44
Ah wishy washy, thankyou for that, now what was the question again!

18 Jun 2016 20:51:05
Why on earth have them extra officials, at the back of the goal, haven't seen any make a decision yet . Flackie, sounds like you've sussed Mr . know . it all out, as well . Villa forever.

19 jun 2016 12:39:41
lol what is there to sus out iam just a huge avfc supporter like you guys we all have differnt views all i see is everytime clark plays he makes mistakes an usually the oppistion get 3 or 4 goals past him club an country no1 can argue with that because that's facts look at the games before that giant finger hit the disagree button!

18 Jun 2016 18:48:15
clark is awful every game he plays they put 3 or 4 past him weather its club or country him and baker are rubbish we need a complete new team one that will die for the course westwood is another 1 offers nothink very sideways at the moment we have a team with a terrible attuide and poor players we should be buying now as we need at least 7 in an 9 out! i would keep guzan tho his a good keeper just let down by donkeys inftont of him in great form for the usa!

18 Jun 2016 19:48:07
Totally agree mr know it all. Clark has been crap for a number of years, always over commits himself in every challenge. Need someone like Michael Dawson paired with okore.

18 Jun 2016 19:53:09
Considering your name, you do talk rubbish.
Clarke and baker are the two best defenders at our club, and in my opinion if they had been the defensive pair last season our fortunes would of been different.
I agree they are not the most skill full, but definitely the most committed, dedicated and toughest we have.

18 Jun 2016 20:47:30
Flakie have a word and remove the blinkers Clarke is awfull and has been for ages Baker isn't bad tho.

18 Jun 2016 20:57:00
Baker better than okore? Get a grip . suppose Westwood is as good as Kante as well?

18 Jun 2016 21:09:17
Okore threw a strop and refused to train, sit on bench or wear the shirt, whether you agree with his reasons or sentiment, his attitude was wrong, so yes baker is better than okore!

And as I have said in many previous posts, Westwood has long been the fans escape goat, never a world beater, or kantes class, but his attitude is spot on, he never hides, and works his socks off.

18 Jun 2016 22:05:16
Right attitude will only get you so far, got to have the talent to go with it. rather have will Hughes from Derby every day of the week.

18 Jun 2016 22:22:53
If a players has the wrong attitude, you run the risk of splitting the dressing room, if you think that that is a risk worth taking on any player, then I disagree.

Give me heart, attitude and desire over a self obsessed clown everyday.

18 Jun 2016 22:23:05
Why don't we try a cheeky bid for berahino, would score the goals to take us back up.

19 Jun 2016 03:22:47
Clark for all of his endeavour is only championship standard, Okore is a level above. He has more pace and has a much better temperament less prone to making rash challenges and popping up for the odd own goal. Attitude may get you so far as will heart and attitude but you need a little more talent than Clark currently has. As for Will Hughes would rather have his Dad Howard.

19 Jun 2016 08:56:48
I do agree to an extent jam dog.
But the wrong attitude is infectious, and we had Richards, okore, gabby, worf etc last year.
They should be made to know that it was their attitude, that lost the dressing room, lost the team turned the crowd and ultimately lose our premier status.
Whether you think player a is better than player b, or we should play a different way, to publicly disrespect the manager, coach, club or fans is unforgivable.

And Abu player involved in this is not good enough, not even for the reserves, as they would poison their belief and future in the game.

Should be sacked. Made an example of.

Also, I do disagree re Clarke. I think he is better than he is showing at min, yes he has had a poor season, and it is continuing, but he is a good defender, if he could tone his aggressive nature, he would be even better.

19 Jun 2016 09:41:05
okore has to stay for me and I'd keep baker. I think Clark is so low on confidence now he has lost the plot. only way I'd use Clark in the team is if he could be used as a sitting midfielder in front of back 4. makes to many costly mistakes at the back. I'd be signing another 2 cb once lescot is shown the door and would only keep richards if he plays rb. if amavi ends up going which I pray he don't we need a decent lb as well.

19 Jun 2016 09:58:08
Okore did throw a strop and it was wrong but the frustration must have been immense. Lescott was getting in the team ahead of him! Are you telling me he was that bad he'd have done a worse job than lescott?

19 Jun 2016 10:21:33
Who ever was in the team, he is a professional, and is paid to earn his place in the team, to throw a strop, sulk and refuse to earn his inflated wage is unforgivable.
The manager, whether we agree, whether the players agree, is paid to pick the team.
If the players disagree, if we all do, then there is a due process.
Player. Work harder, prove him wrong, set the right example.

Supporters., voice your opinions.

When a player acts this way, the whole dressing room is lost. The only way to win in back is change the manager, and prove player revolt, player power wins, or totally drop the player.

I agree, worf had no place in that team, and I voiced my opinion. But after that, neither does okore.
We are better than that.
We are bigger than him.

Whether he would of played better, done a better job is irrelevant. He isn't player manager, it is not his place to pick the team. It is his place to prove he warrants a place in that team, and with that attitude, the spoilt child routine, he has no place near our team.

I think worf, Richards, Guzan, gabby not one of them has, or had, a place near our first team, but that's not my call, and neither is it okores.

If one of my kids acted the way he did, because they didn't get what they wanted, the last thing I would do is relent and get it for them, because they threw a strop, and showed some passion for it!
I would make it my mission that they didn't get it until they earnt it.

19 Jun 2016 11:16:52
IMO, Baker is a better centre half than Clark, not a bad player but if £5M is being offered I'd take it. Going into the season with Elphick, Okore, Baker and Toner to choose from for 2 positions, I'd be more than happy. We need a good keeper though, I'd go Myhill, experienced, lives locally already, last year of contract, 33yrs old, good solid keeper and better than Guzan. going to be an interesting few weeks seeing who comes and goes, I'm super confident for the season ahead, be one to remember I think 👍🏻

UTV.

19 Jun 2016 11:40:11
Mate I agree, except we don't need the risk of an okore now.
He showed his hand, if he can do it once, he can do it again. Make an example of him.

19 Jun 2016 12:24:51
Tbh Flackie, it's probably been mentioned on here, if Worf, Richards etc got in the team ahead of me, I'd have a problem with it, granted he gets paid well but it's a tough 1 because Black basically had his own ideas, not what all of us would've done? I've read somewhere that Okore's agent wants a clean slate, and he's happy to play in the Championship, at least he doesn't think it's beneath him like 'some' of our superstars, which is encouraging? Personally I think Okore would smash it in the Championship, he's a hard man, worth giving him 1 more chance or till January and see what happens?

UTV.

19 Jun 2016 12:30:42
Ps, going back to what Smudge1976 put, how did our scouts watching Ligue 1 miss Kante at half the price of what Gana or Vertout cost? Shows what a nightmare Riley is/ was

UTV.

19 Jun 2016 13:29:31
No arguments there. Personally I wouldn't risk that attitude again, whether I was annoyed in anyone getting in front of me or not, his response was the problem!

19 Jun 2016 20:41:16
If an older kid acted like a lescott and still got to play then a younger kid like an okore, who towed the line would wonder what they needed to do to get to play.
You don't like your older kids play you for a fool and punish the younger kids for playing up.
I don't agree with what okore did, no player is bigger than the club but he obviously wanted to make a point and it seemed lescott and others could do what they liked.

19 Jun 2016 22:47:14
What?
So as a grown adult professional man, you accept this as a reasonable action?

Crazy!

The guy refused to train, to be a sub, and I doing this to wear the shirt, all because the man paid to manage the team played someone in front of him, whether he felt okore wasn't good enough, or couldn't play in his formation, or that the other guy is better is irrelevant.
His way of going about things, to now be ignored says what to
A) youth players
B) new signings
C) fringe players?

As I said before, I actually agree he would of played in my team, but that is beside the point.
He is a spoilt unprofessional player ego is NOT bigger than Aston villa.

17 Jun 2016 16:51:02
So, Hollis has gone?

17 Jun 2016 20:37:20
yes left as expected 1 man remains paddy riley. out of all of them his last man standing.

17 Jun 2016 21:19:15
Can't knock hollis he managed to do what randy couldn't and sell our club, proved the right man for the job.

17 Jun 2016 09:20:27
Is it me or are the bar codes going for the players we identify first, its like we're doing their scouting for them,1 maybe 2 players, you could say coincidence, but 4 so far? what's their caper?

17 Jun 2016 15:19:14
Its just lazy journalism, every player linked to us will probably be linked with Newcastle too.

17 Jun 2016 10:00:52
Just wanted to say a big thank you for everything to Steve Hollis. Good luck in the future.

17 Jun 2016 10:26:34
I'll second that.

17 Jun 2016 17:56:28
Steve Hollis deserves our thanks? there must be something in the water i'm guzzling, because from where i'm sitting his brief was hardly exacting was it, come in, say whatever randy wanted him to, get some people in to show where jobs were being duplicated and thus cut away the excess.

by the way, i feel the way they treated those who had been loyal to the club for years was a disgrace-and yes i know they got paid for the job they did but even so, no class show by likes of hollis, 5 knuckle merchant-hollis is just a slash and burn merchant dressed up in a nice suit spieling out platitudes when needed.

he was that good an inspiration bernstein and king washed their hands and walked away. the mans a blow-hole, come in, calm the fans down, and put the business on simmer till a new owner was found, oh yeah, cheers hollis, i'm sure you did all that with no thought of a big lump of money and a little bonus too! and before you all say, yeah but it needed sorting, to make the club more efficient.

i can't argue there, and he did what was needed, true again, but he's been handsomely paid for it, raising his profile too, so job done, sling your hook, why people are thanking him i don't know, remember him jibber jabbering about the new owner dr xia (who as you know i've fought long and hard for people to accept him! ) being at the head of 5 business'.

what sort of numpty doesn't do due diligence before publicly announcing that?, what a doughnut, no, i don't thank hopeless hollis for doing what any competent accountancy firm could have done, it goes a bit like this.

the club will be going through a period of transition where unfortunately cutbacks will result in job losses, this we regret but with the loss of revenue and market re-adjustment due to being in the championship this will have to happen, we will do our level best to keep these redundancies to a minimum and at the same time actively seek new revenue streams while obviously seeking new ownership.

we ask that all those associated with the club and the fans bear with us and we will inform you all of any news in due course, thank you for your patience', wow, i can see how hollis earned his corn by reading a statement prepared by someone else, , how difficult was that! cor, i reckon you must need a degree or something to do that tough, dangerous job he did there, do me a favour.

18 Jun 2016 15:57:19
bit harsh on holis there 82. the guy was a massive part in our takeover. I agree villa treated the workers bad with all the job losses but that's what happens in takeovers and it was hardly holis fault.

18 Jun 2016 16:02:38
xia is involved in around 25 company's 82. 5 of which are listed so holis was right there. he was not the controling party in 4 of them yet though that's where the mix up was. he has around 20 private buisnesses as well that's not listed. he also states he can sell a lot of them for around 500 to 700 million as he did tmax a month or so back.

19 Jun 2016 08:07:43
Kingy i can't fault you on your research, thanks for taking the time, but when someone makes a statement and subsequently it emerges that they've been a bit economical with the info for me alarm bells ring, i 'm also a believer in you are the company you keep, you lie down with dogs you get fleas, and the company he keeps isn't shall we say 'stellar', so if he says he has x amount of business' he can sell for 100's of millions, i looking to see when his pants catch fire, so let's see what happens but just to echo my breathern on here, why are we shopping 'bargain basement and freebies', what message is that sending out, to our rivals and more importantly to us fans, it ain't right kingy, and you know it.

16 Jun 2016 19:54:08
Kingvilla what is it you actually do to find out all this information?

16 Jun 2016 21:11:00
it's not what you know it's who you know. I know a few people in football places and me myself am in the financial side of sPort and business in general. but to be fare 90% of the time things that are close one minute in terms of football are off the next.

17 Jun 2016 07:26:52
So I take you are an agent kingy and I totaly agree about things being close one minute and off the next utv.

17 Jun 2016 08:33:24
Ha Ha - And the award from the vaguest and broad answer of all time goes to KingVilla - "I know people in Football but can't divulge my sources because, well because I don't have any. And I know most of my 'exclusives' don't happen but that's football folks. I'm still ITK". Stop now, this is getting embarrassing.

17 Jun 2016 10:31:58
football is football bk1982 and hey I don't ask no one to belive a word I say I just put things out there that I see and here. most of the time to quick for my own good as things change like I said. and bigw123 no I'm not an agent mate I know a couple though. I'm a finance company that's involved in sports and business in general. I'm involved in lending money to people in football or for football matters and that type of thing.

17 Jun 2016 11:14:42
Fair play I guess you hear loads of behind the scenes things then some come off some don't to be fair mate at first I thought u were full of s##t but a lot of what you said recently has come off so keep it up utv.

17 Jun 2016 12:38:00
I'm intrigued Kingy - if you are 'in the financial side of sport and business in general' does that mean you work behind the counter in Ladbrokes? :)

17 Jun 2016 15:46:29
lol wisdom no but hey I would sometimes take doing that. life would be much easier in ways.

16 Jun 2016 00:51:19
king villa you know i like nathan dyer so why u teasing me next you be saying dwight gayle be coming i belive your on a role now mate let's hope you are right iam excited now.

15 Jun 2016 20:04:40
Hope we sign elphick soon, seems leeds are on the case too.

16 jun 2016 00:55:24
mate we are the biggest club in the championship no1 can compete with us we are loaded and have far better training faciltys than anybody in that league. he could go leeds but that club is in trouble through a terrible owner.

16 Jun 2016 01:23:19
You're 100% right, personally i reckon its his agent trying to inflate the price and wages, not that agents do that type of thing!

15 jun 2016 17:12:15
matty phillips anyone?

15 Jun 2016 17:53:58
And caulker please.

15 Jun 2016 19:14:06
Will do for me. Hopefully RdM has had sufficient time to get his wish list in place as the takeover has staggered on and on and on. Unlike the previous regime could be that the new lot are going to back him with some cold hard cash and not just empty promises. No Prem this season but looking forward to some good honest hard work effort and pride in the shirt. VTID.

15 Jun 2016 12:28:29
Lads I hope we make some very good signings I'm sure we will but does anyone think that Benteke will come back to us in the championship NOT A PRAYER sorry but the truth UTV.

15 jun 2016 17:14:06
don't want him back he's the same as the snake, benteke signed a contract extension then dropped us

15 Jun 2016 17:29:22
I do agree mate we stuck by him and he dropped us in a flash I think a fresh start is what we all need forget the past this is a brand new VILLA and hopefully the futures bright!

15 Jun 2016 17:33:02
Like the snake?
How?

Did he publicly say he was staying?
Did he publicly say he was loyal?

He did what most other players do, and pool met his buy out.
If it was not for this man we would of been a championship team in BOTH of last seasons.
We owe him massively, and if you are honest, and take the claret and blue glasses of, do you seriously blame him?

Delph is a disgrace, I would of had no problem with him joining Citeh, in fact wouldn't of blamed him, but what he did was outrageous, and I bet when he retires he looks back and is ashamed of him self.

I bet when Big Ben looks back at his time at villa park he is proud.

15 Jun 2016 17:43:28
If you had the chance to improve yourself I am 100% certain that you would take that chance.
The fact that his game has not suited a new manager does not mean that he is rubbish.
Many posters have said the same about Barry but it is interesting that recently many have said that he is the type of player that we need.
I don't like the fact that players leave when times get tough even though they have signed a contract. Delph is the only one I am aware of who turned his move down, pledged his loyalty and then walked out.
Money talks.
Very loudly.

15 Jun 2016 18:14:17
You wouldn't want Benteke back?
It's never going to happen so impossible to prove. But unless you've totally lost your mind, you'd be back flipping down Broad Street if he came back like the rest of us would.

15 Jun 2016 18:43:15
Exactly!

15 Jun 2016 18:00:25
Chaps, its done, its dusted, we had to go thru that to get the new owner and some optimism back, look at it this way, we're pressing the reset button, job done, now we're moving forward, shove the past, its behind us, hopefully we'll learn from it ;lets move on chaps!

15 Jun 2016 20:21:29
I'm hoping he treads water for a season at L'pool, we go up next season, get him back, that season would be in a run up to a World Cup, he'd be going for it! My father-out-in-law is a Hammer, he reckons they're sniffing round him though.

UTV.

15 Jun 2016 20:50:13
Talk about no gratitude, wearing the colours and realising you've made the wrong choice, yes that's right Allyp1972, your need to sit your outlaw father-in-law down and explain to him the facts of life.

subconsciously he's a villa fan, hence why he loves claret and blue, but feeling inadequate about himself in his mind he searched for another team in claret and blue and 'hay presto' west ham, simples. just tell him he is better than he thinks he is, and he deserves a bit of class in his life, support the villa! and by the way how can you support a team whose song includes those chirpy lyrics "and like my dreams they fade and die", come on-really? save his soul fella!

15 Jun 2016 22:22:22
He's beyond redemption mate, all I get is 'do you realise it was West 'Aaaaam who won The World Kaappp? ' Lol

UTV.

16 Jun 2016 01:35:01
He's half right there, and like england since then they've done virtually sweet f. a (yes we can't forget they won the f. a. cup too), one of the most annoying things is this season to get to their stadium you've got to walk thru westfield shopping centre, now this is a major problem, the clash of two different cultures-one culture that stares for hours at inanimate objects that cost a fortune and don't do anything really useful and are just bought for showing off, and then you got people who go shopping!

16 Jun 2016 09:51:18
Lol and 100% true, 👍🏻

UTV.

14 Jun 2016 20:48:18
Oliver Norton anyone? Reading player. Read on some site he is on villa radar and perfect fit for the club.

14 Jun 2016 21:13:59
Oliver Norwood? Yes everyday.

14 Jun 2016 22:40:56
Don't know too much about him. What would he cost?

14 Jun 2016 22:45:07
Plays for ni. hull and burnley were rumoured to be bidding £1.5mil.

14 Jun 2016 16:39:29
Chris Samuelson, new vice chairman, this could get interesting.

14 Jun 2016 20:11:28
An guess what samuelsons other mates banfill and wyness on the board too!

14 Jun 2016 20:19:18
Sounds lovely and cozy, all good upright, upstanding citizens, the expression ''straight as a boomarang springs to mind!

14 Jun 2016 15:16:52
I reluctantly doff my hat kingslayer, sorry kingvilla, you have made a prediction that was correct, well done!
I must say that your strike rate is terrible, so much so could probably wear s number 9 shirt for villa, but well done, of all the things you said, you got this one right.
👏👏👏.

14 Jun 2016 15:54:43
Hail KingVilla 👑

UTV.

14 Jun 2016 16:33:59
Can feel the love flackie!

14 Jun 2016 19:12:37
Thanks mate, I meant every word!

14 Jun 2016 19:21:28
let's hope the good times roll soon boys.

14 Jun 2016 20:05:59
Go on kingvilla. give us the name of our first signing. get the entertainment goin!

14 Jun 2016 19:39:35
I'm welling up here fellas, damn it, i'm off to hug a tree.

15 jun 2016 17:01:32
messi just in a cab at new streeti'm dreaming now.

15 Jun 2016 20:54:41
No chance, my brother just signed him on his playstation, that disloyal do and so.

14 Jun 2016 14:28:17
would anybody take steven fletcher free?

14 Jun 2016 15:11:15
Please god no.

14 Jun 2016 20:02:24
I'd take steven fletcher for free, all the way to the airport and make sure he moves as far away as possible.

14 Jun 2016 09:17:08
Just a side issue about the euro's, i would just like to thank jack wilshire for being kind enough to deliver chris coleman's teamtalk for him 'yeah, we're the better team, its simple, we don't like them, they don't like us . 'well done fella, always good to poke the bear (or dragon in this case) with a stick, wilshire your a prize person of the first order.

14 Jun 2016 10:46:09
Gutted! Just went on line to order a replacement Villa Superfan Garden Gnome only to find they are out of stock  Now I'll have to try and stick the old one back together, unless anyone is at a loose end until September and would care to don the full kit and stand in amongst my pot plants for the duration?

14 Jun 2016 13:59:07
Hahaha. brilliant.

14 Jun 2016 16:28:57
I may have just the man for the job WittonWisdom, he's at a loose end, he's out of contract while deciding what to do, about the right height and about the same amount of movement as a gnome, without further a do i give you, Barry Bannan.

13 Jun 2016 23:57:49
Look, this is probably a stupid question so i'm just the man for the job!
it's been said dr. tony will give rdm a war chest of 40 million-great news, but-when we sell amavi, veretout, richards and traore (couple of bloggers are saying he doesn't fancy staying for some peculiar reason! ) , will the proceeds be added or not, because if they are, that's at least another 30 million in transfer fees alone!, then like flackie said we can show we mean business and buy prem. league standard players who can grow with the club.

the only grey area is the FFP policy, though i do seem to remember qpr obliterating that ceiling and getting a smallish fine;so in that respect, the league have set the precedent for any financial penalties that we may incur, so will dr. tony put the cash from the sales back in the pot or make like the bhs owner and shore them away, like to divert towards paying for all these franchises around the world, any thoughts out there? (and yes i know a franchise means we should receive money but i mean, advertising and incentives so as to choose our "brand"above all others)

14 jun 2016 02:28:19
he is going to sponser our ground with his own company eg like man city do mate there's always away round fairplay rules.

14 Jun 2016 08:21:01
And ffp rule were relaxed from last season.

14 Jun 2016 09:07:25
if we sell players for say another 30 mil that can be reinvested anyway as it's money bought in. the outlay he gives would be the only thing ffp would look at. we should have no problem being able to spend 80 mil if we bring 30 to 40 in from sales . but there is other ways round it anyway.

14 Jun 2016 08:44:22
I'm not having this, everything is looking peachy, i feel a bobby ewing moment happening, i'm going to come out of the shower and see that 'deadly' is still the guvnor, and by the way, what the heck is he doing in my bathroom!

15 jun 2016 17:10:58
woo hoo loads of dosh, can't wait to go to small heath and wave a fiver at the bluenoses now get that fekkin north stand smashed down.

13 Jun 2016 19:39:28
King villa. love him or hate him his heart is in the right place lads. Ok some times the info is a bit off, but Jesus it's clear the guy loves villa and his posts generate great debates.

Keep em coming king villa :-D.

13 Jun 2016 16:07:01
Good luck Ciaran Clarke this evening.

13 Jun 2016 19:00:02
great own goal clark. still get that out of ya system now and not for us next season.

14 Jun 2016 08:42:29
It's a shame cause he looked really good before that too. Pretty sure he's the only villa player at the tournament isn't he? Had to be him eh?

13 Jun 2016 10:56:04
I find it frustrating to see fellow Villa fans calling for players who simply just aren't good enough. Yes we are a championship team now but we need to behave like a club who means business after the shambles that was the Lerner years! Already the psychology has changed to "lets be conservative, and let's sign players only good enough for this league. If we want to get out its about confidence, making the right choices and infecting everyone with happy, capable Aston Villa right from the owner to us fans. Its about signing the best and believing we can do it because no-one else in the Championship will do it for us, and won't want us to either! Come on guys I've heard enough crap about average players, we are Villa "with money" we can have who we want.

13 Jun 2016 11:11:06
Well said mate.

13 Jun 2016 13:38:50
Devlins for Sporting Director. Stirring stuff my friend bring it on.

13 Jun 2016 07:09:23
just now patiently waiting for movement within the camp, hopefully it's all good!

13 Jun 2016 16:58:24
Gentlemen, the passion, the verve, the unwavering belief in what is good, but that's enough about my fried bentos pie i've just put on for me dinner, i'm loving all the players people are mentioning, but priority has to be a goalkeeper, and our defence, those are the positions we need to spend big money on, (house and foundations you know the drill), from midfield upwards, surely loan deals are the way forward (with deals to buy them when promoted), we save some sheckles and thus can go for that striker we need.

i understand magnusson is one of those, but 3+ other championship clubs sniffing around too, with the money we could save on lion deals, we can pay a bigger fee and better wages for him, and still stay within the FFP guidelines, this is where the canny jock steve clarke will show his wheeling and dealing streak, rdm sticking to his chelski contacts and lazio contacts (shalke-not sure) to hopefully nab a few jems, i hate to say it, but we need to use our financial clout to bully clubs into selling (loaning) us players, feel bad about this kind of way of doing business, but priority is get the heck out of this league asap.

12 Jun 2016 21:50:40
None of us have inside info. no one knows other than Rdm who is coming in and no one knows how much we got to spend so let's just sit back and let the good times role.

12 Jun 2016 18:53:47
I never knew the first language in b6 was spanish, because bamford has been learning a bit, seems either we're going to start serving paella in a bun or mr. bamford fancies a stint in the sun, hope we do get him though.

11 Jun 2016 20:53:36
England playing well, so unlucky . but why is Kane taking corners?

11 Jun 2016 21:59:55
Dunno what sterling is doing there, 30 mil headless chicken.

11 Jun 2016 22:15:02
played really well should of bought vardy on to stretch them rather than milner and try and defend. should of really won that by 3 to 4 goals. did I miss something did lescot and richards somehow get on pitch for that corner and that's why it ended up in . 😅.

12 Jun 2016 02:04:11
Adam lallana; he couldn't score in a brothel, bin him, he loves himself, not clinical enough in front of goal, he couldn't tackle a fence, poser, get back to ponsing around with your men's care products, he's as tough as a souffle, as for sterling, as said above, he reminds me of a dog chasing his tail, mad keen, but no composure or real end product, no spacial awareness, no clue about offside in the second and third phase of play, joe hart, nice to see you marshalling your defenders (not), glad to see you have the time to enjoy watching that looping header for their goal, cheers joe, you chump, maybe the russian knew, unlike you, he could rise 'head and shoulders' above super tall danny rose, who i feel acquitted himself really well, and how come our shortest defender ended up being the one trying to stop their guy scoring, that math don't add up.

all in all, not a loss (felt like one though), but i hate to admit it, mr. talk over anyone he interviews, stan (i've had problems in my life-haven't we all dear) was right (i can't believe i'm agreeing), england are lob -sided, and jack wiltshire, nice to bring him along for a holiday, i hope he tops up his tan before he goes on his main holiday, but i'm hoping ray lewington and gary neville can make roy see the error of his ways, and give vardy a go, that game was screaming for his pace and his ability to tangle legs and go down like he'd been snippered, one more thing, well done to the taffs, they've realised you play to your strengths, and if you ain't cutting it, they'll cut you, learn your lesson roy.

11 Jun 2016 15:10:52
Chelsea fan here in peace- curious to know what happened to that huge striker you had, the 6ft 7' one. Is he still playing for you?

11 Jun 2016 16:17:44
Who mate?
Jon Carew?!

Sure you don't mean them people down the road?

11 Jun 2016 16:29:54
He's either talking about kozak or zigic

Kozak is dire an currently occupies a place in our reserve team, couldn't hit a cows ass with a banjo

If you mean zigic he played for the donkey sanctuary down the road, think he left on a free?

11 Jun 2016 16:48:36
does he mean Helenius? the danish donkey.

11 Jun 2016 17:15:22
yes he means helenius I'd say. or he's on about gestede and pulling our chain.

12 Jun 2016 14:37:25
Had a good chuckle at these replies lads, the guy I meant was Helenius, but nice to know Kozak is still plodding along, was a god on FM11.

11 Jun 2016 13:13:01
New to this but do you all think that Hollis deserves to stay at the villa maybe as financial director he has done a good job regarding the take over.

11 Jun 2016 14:23:23
Not to sure!
I think 'if' we have our new saviour here, and he is going to splash cash to wake the sleeping giant so to speak, I think we should trust him and allow him to bring his own staff and people in.
Let him have people he trusts in the areas he wants them.

10 jun 2016 19:52:36
world exclusive

kingvilla can read, and to provide evidence prints copies from tabloid press.

11 Jun 2016 00:59:16
Where is the love here guys? without the kingster there'd be no rainbow colours in our universe, yeah, he's an enigma wrapped up in a puzzle-don't diss him, you know you'd miss him!

10 Jun 2016 18:05:14
R.I.P. Harry Gregory, old school and part of our history-cheers for all you did, on and off the field.

10 Jun 2016 19:08:42
Rip Harry Holt ender in the sky.

10 Jun 2016 19:54:04
Well said classof82.

Once a villan, always a villan.
Rip big man.

11 Jun 2016 01:07:41
I just wish the current batch of numpties had as much pride in the colours, maybe to toughen them up we should make them train with an old leather style football soaked in water overnight, might make flabby, gestede and co. realise just how hard andy gray, and the fellas were back then, not like this bunch of plastic snidey imitations, what a shower (rant over, back in me box) old school, bless 'em all!

10 Jun 2016 16:50:33
David Plats birthday, hope he has a good one . don't know if anybody else has noticed, but he is the only ex player who never has a good word for Villa . He seems to forget, that Villa took him from Crew and turned him into an England player. A certain Sid Cowerns, made him with his on a sixpence passes . He appears to have a very short memory . Roll on next week and Dr T can get the Villa on the March . Villa forever.

10 Jun 2016 17:42:42
I do agree, but can we really argue against what he says?
Perhaps sadly, he is kind of right?
But we are now in a new era!

10 Jun 2016 14:12:59
I see Kingvilla has obviously bought a copy of the Express today to get his insider knowledge.

09 jun 2016 21:36:45
if you go to every game like me you will know the villa bitc well shes gone to prison for fraud off topic i know but a big part of villa fans home an away.

09 Jun 2016 17:01:12
I'd love villa to go in for Aaron mooy at Melbourne city, he's 25 an arguably the best player in the league, played well for the Aussies against England a few weeks back he is a solid playmaker with a wicked free kick, wouldn't break the bank either, we would need to move quick though as a lot of talk about him moving to Europe this summer

Thoughts anyone?

09 Jun 2016 18:56:29
Not going to lie I have no idea who he is but from what you see and what I've now read about him sounds like he's a good goal scoring midfielder and we need players like that.

09 Jun 2016 19:36:26
Don't know him mate, but my gut feeling is we need experience in the championship.
It is a league like no other.

We need a squad to do a job for this season. Then readdress next season if we manage to get up.

09 Jun 2016 19:56:51
Very good player, at the right price, worth a shot?

UTV.

10 Jun 2016 04:19:27
looks a good player but I'd never herd of him to be honest.

08 Jun 2016 15:02:33
Think we should go for Leon osman off the toffees.

08 Jun 2016 16:08:16
There's actually some really decent players out of contract soon, I read yesterday that Carroll from Spurs an borthwick Jackson from man utd will both be out of contract, Hoyt's be worth looking at.

08 Jun 2016 19:40:38
Osman has been a bit part player for Everton for a number of years and is now 35 years of age. It's fair to say he is on the downslope in terms of his football ability
I know we are going to have to cut our cloth to match our new circumstances.
But, signing 35 year olds looking for some mug club to top up their pension fund is not how I see us, or want us, going.
Let's go for young, hungry players that are not getting a game at Premier league level but would be dead certs to do well in the championship. Bamford and Gayle as a front 2 sounds pretty good to me
Leave Osman alone to enjoy his retirement.

08 Jun 2016 20:25:16
I agree mendax to an extent mendax, osmans a good pro and has a wealth of experience of which is needed within a 'young and hungry' group. Consistency tends to be a problem with a lot of the kids.

{Ed003's Note - Barton helped Burnley go up at a similar age - could be a great signing for 1 season.}

08 Jun 2016 20:46:18
I agree ed!
I think osman could be just the thing we looking for, a cool head in a fairly split changing room.

Give him a 12 month contract, with the option of a further 12 months if proves a success.

Seams fairly risk free to me.

08 Jun 2016 21:10:10
I thought we were getting this kind of signing with Lescott
Plus, with regard to Barton comparison; I take the point but Barton is a lot better player and is a couple of years younger
If I could forget he's such a pillock I would take a 32 year Barton (as Burnley did) but not a 35 year old Osman. Sorry.

{Ed003's Note - Osman would do a good job in the championship imo mendax,not played loads so would have plenty of miles left in them old legs,just my opinion.}

08 Jun 2016 21:17:43
I'd rather Barry if we looking for that old head in there.

{Ed003's Note - good shout.}

08 Jun 2016 21:22:05
Damn you Kingvilla! I have just come on here to p. s and make the same point
Great minds think alike. And sometimes, mine and yours do as well ;)

{Ed003's Note - as an after thought a kevin phillips helped my team to a play off final at around 37 (no googling) and then helped palace go up the year after - one or two older chaps shouldn't be ignored because of age.}

08 Jun 2016 21:49:11
I agree! Barry would be spot on.

He would never come back to the villa though, sadly.

08 Jun 2016 23:15:42
I hear where you are coming from Ed but we shouldn't take Philips as proof that all 37 year olds will be able to perform as well as he did at that age. Players who do that are still pretty much at a premium
To be honest, I was never a massive fan of Osman in his prime.
I probably should have said that a bit earlier in the argument.

{Ed003's Note - I get that,just throwing an example into the debate about players and ages - in an ideal world we would love youngsters of our own team/s to come through but the championship isn't like that it's about getting out of it quick for such clubs as Villa.}

09 Jun 2016 08:18:37
When Barry was available I suggested that he was the player we needed to hold the team together.
The overall response was that we should not even think about him, he jumped ship, he was Judas etc etc.
We didn't make any attempt and he went to Toffees and was probably the best player there for some years.
NOW we want him back.
This is how the thinking changes amongst us the supporters.
Age need not be a hindrance. Quality is permanent, form is tempreamental.
Would Barry come back? Possibly not.
How about Charlie Adam?
Quality, scores, hard and would give the younger members some protection.

09 Jun 2016 10:02:14
I suggested Adam weeks ago and got shot down because he's too fat or something? Goals from midfield and a bit of fight in him, sign him up, I'd even make him captain

UTV.

09 Jun 2016 10:35:54
A player I would like to sign is Peter crouch. We do need some level headed guys in our team and for me he always trys his best. Youth is all good and well but need some old heads in there who can handle the pressure.

09 Jun 2016 11:10:28
I was having a beer with Steve Bull the other night (everyone in Staffordshire has had a beer with him at some point) and asked him if he’d consider making a comeback for one season, after all he’s only 47.

He’s still thinking about it .

09 Jun 2016 18:30:10
I have also said about Charlie Adams.
And oldvillan, I am not sure that anyone on this thread said they wouldn't want him back!
Was probably someone with two other two or three names, using all his aliases to get his view across!

09 Jun 2016 23:47:50
Barry wouldn't have enough stamina for the Championship even if a wise head, he would go missing in games and anyway he wouldn't come. Never mind all this talk, we should be aiming for the very best and nothing less, we will have the money so no excuses! Only Newcastle could possibbly compete with us for the players needed, and even then we must blow them away with financial muscle and ambition, its the only way back. ask Dr Xia he seems to think so. i hope!

08 Jun 2016 12:03:03
Gayle . mcormack. Bamford. gestede. = we are up.

08 Jun 2016 13:02:22
bigtull we ain't going to buy bamford gayle and mccormack mate. that would cost us near on 30 million. gayle bamford on loan would be possible. gestede will score 15 to 20 next season with the right service. a gayle with his pace or poacher like mccormack would be the perfect foil in a 50 goal partnership.

08 Jun 2016 13:21:41
Noted. but if this xia guy is what he says he is. spending 30 million on tham forwards is nothing. depends how serious he is. buy promotion who cares. when man city got took over they brought a player for 32.5 million just to show they ment business.

08 Jun 2016 19:02:50
granted but they were in the prem mate. no point bloating our squad with good championship players that are only average at best in prem. we already in that state now. plus he has stated up to 50 million but if we sell a few it will be more. got to remember wages and not go mad and the fact we need players for most positions in the team. I'd love us to pull this winger off from ajax but can't see it at mo as quite a few in prem or Italy will be in for him.

07 Jun 2016 20:48:35
Anyone interested in joining in the Euro '16 correct score comp, the group game fixtures are now up on

Euro 16 Competition

simply log in as usual - scores have to be in by midnight thursday and the comp will be updated on 22nd June after the group games have finished leaving 2 days for you to put your next scores in.

Good luck everyone

07 Jun 2016 23:38:28
Cheers ed, all done.

{Ed007's Note - Good luck mate.}

08 Jun 2016 00:06:33
Think looking at them, I'll need it! Lol.

{Ed007's Note - The prize is well worth it - a VIP weekend pass to one of Ed003's swingers gatherings where the guests of honour are The Krankies and ex-Forest manager Billy Davies.}

08 Jun 2016 02:32:20
I thought Jimmy Krankie was too busy running the Scottish National Party nowadays?

{Ed001's Note - he always has time for one of Ed003's parties.....}

08 Jun 2016 15:23:27
All done. Can't wait for my night in with 'Wee' Jimmy and the rest of the SNP cross-dressers in skool uniform. I'm sure Angus Young from AC/ DC will be up for it. I bet it'll be fandabedozee😀.

08 Jun 2016 16:54:02
Sorry - just realised I replied to my own posts (twice) : ( c'mon Flackie - give me the s**t I deserve.

{Ed007's Note - School uniforms - i think you're worth the watching!}

08 Jun 2016 18:08:50
Lots of people answer there own posts on here!
At least you didn't change your name to do so!

Can you remember the French and Saunders Krankies gag?!
Haha when they did the scene from silence of the lambs?!
Psis funny!

08 Jun 2016 19:06:37
all done roll on friday.

08 Jun 2016 19:32:19
The big announcement.

08 Jun 2016 19:32:39
Really good news to follow.

08 Jun 2016 19:32:50
Bad news to follow.

08 Jun 2016 19:33:10
Average made up news to follow.

08 Jun 2016 19:33:24
Stuff I read in paper to follow.

08 Jun 2016 19:34:14
I bet one of these is right!
👏 Well done the King.

08 Jun 2016 20:03:58
I'm on about my euro 16 scores flackie. you seem to be getting excited there mate lol. takeover will be mid next week Tuesday or Wednesday. as for big announcement all in good time bud. it will be worth the wait.