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20 Aug 2017 20:27:13
Ive been reading this for about two years and wow do people have different views.
My first game was against Stoke in 1963 - I was 6. I never missed a game, Home or Away until 1979 when I was transferred to Scotland because of my job. Then came the Glory Days, no more Rochdale or Oldham.

In 1982 I couldn't afford to go to Rotterdam but the Chairman of East Fife and his friend had Tickets somehow?
They didn't go to the game, they just went with the girls in Holland that they seemed to be happier with but hey ho. I've never heard so much whining as on this Site - I've seen some bad times let's just hope the good times are around the corner and support The Villa!

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20 Aug 2017 19:46:59
My team for tursday Gk Steer lbk Borg Cbk Samba Cbk Chester Rbk De laet Midfield cmd Bjarnason Cmd Lansbury Cmd Jedinak O hare adomah Hogan 4 5 1 defending 4 3 3 going forward. I have made changes because we have a big game friday and can't afford anymore injurys to a already hit squad. And my prediction is 2.0 Aston Villa. UTV.

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20 Aug 2017 16:09:48
What should Bruce do Tuesday? Rest davis for Friday? Or does he carry on playing players in form to give them confidence? Personally I'd rest davis, green and hourihane. But then what does he do Friday if Hogan comes in Tuesday, scores a couple and has a good game?

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20 Aug 2017 16:38:36
Never!
We need momentum, and the winning habit.

They are fit pros, 2 weeks into a season! Rest?

20 Aug 2017 16:56:27
No changes for Tuesday for me,
Let's get a settled side who get used to playing with each other.
Don't like all this pissing about with resting players,

20 Aug 2017 17:00:27
I know what your saying but I'm saying rest them as in not play them to risk them getting injured in a non important cup game. We have had an injury in every game so far. And 3 games in 6 days is a bit intense.

20 Aug 2017 17:09:54
You can't plan a season on risking not getting injured.
What about a settled team, winning and used to playing together?
We need a style, and an 11 that are the team. We need a squad that can fill spaces when needed through necessity not fear and superstition.

Winning like losing is a habit, and it's addictive, those players have earned that shirt now. What does it say to them to take from them?
Let's say we swap teams around, and the players on Tuesday batter Wigan.
Then what?
Drop them for sats team, or keep them?
Either way, a split unhappy dressing room.

We should keep the beliefs that you WIN the shirt. You earn the right to keep it buying playing well, and lose it by playing siht.
You can't lose the shirt by winning a game and playing well.

20 Aug 2017 17:22:14
* by playing well
(Note to self, read before posting! )

20 Aug 2017 17:22:41
Yes that's basically the question I was asking. What does Bruce do if he drops davis for Tuesday and Hogan scores a couple. What does he do for Wednesday? I think Bruce will make changes for tuesday. Whether we agree or not. For me davis hourihane green and bree (as hutton isn't playing well) must start on friday.

20 Aug 2017 17:35:34
*Friday not wednesday. That would be a bit too much to ask!

20 Aug 2017 17:51:50
I think now, more than ever, changes he makes should be through necessity.
1) suspension
2) injury
3) form

If we are resting now, 2 weeks into a season, with an international break around the corner, then we don't deserve to plan on winning anything.

We have got to go with the intention of players winning the shirt, and by that same reckoning players lose the shirt.

Are you really saying that the three players you mention need resting?
They haven't been in the team. Tired after one game?

If we only pick players on form, the team knows that everyone there is playing because they deserve it. Not because they have a reputation.
It levels the playing field for the whole squad, and by that same reason, should lift standards and moral.

20 Aug 2017 18:16:42
I'm not saying I'd rest them because they are tired no. I'm saying I'd rest them because I want them fit for friday. Davis played Monday, Saturday, if he's not dropped then Tuesday and Friday as Well. I agree with what u are saying and when we are well into the season and not playing 3 games in a week then yes, stick with the same team get momentum and don't change a winning side. I get all that. But when players are not 100% match fit as it's early in the season, playing 3 games in 6 days does bring fatigue. And when they are fatigued that brings niggling little injurys. All i'm saying is that i want green hourihane and davis starting friday. And i can pretty much guarentee if fit Tuesday's game will include Bjarnason steer samba Hogan adomah ohare and Dr laet. I'd be surprised if Bruce didn't make changes.

20 Aug 2017 18:57:07
I hope your wrong, I'd start the team that won on sat.
Win the game early on Tuesday. then make the changes to rest.

20 Aug 2017 19:49:00
Think Bruce has already said he's changing things and using a mixture of youth and experience, agree fully that we need to keep the same team as Saturday but with Bree over Hutton.

20 Aug 2017 22:13:24
Play the same team from saturday, change 1 player Bree for Hutton, when we are out of sight of Wigan make subs to rest the team, introduce more kids to the team.

21 Aug 2017 08:41:32
Keep the same team for Tuesday,
Players get injured in training so I don't see the benefit of changing them
Keep the winning momentum going,

20 Aug 2017 11:05:31
How did your lad get on flackie?

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20 Aug 2017 12:50:59
They won easy mate, and played really well.
They are a new club, and been placed in a league they will walk. But all experience!

20 Aug 2017 15:57:03
Hopefully the next Jimmy Rimmer Flacks, Man I loved that bloke I would even have had his babies. We got him on the old Cine Camera waving to us on the European cup parade at the Town Hall oh happy days. Fair play to your nipper Flacks hope he makes it as it's a cruel cruel profession to be in I'm sure you know what I mean there bud.

20 Aug 2017 16:39:36
I do mate!
But he is living my dream, if not his own at the minute!

20 Aug 2017 21:19:41
Did he have much to do Flackie or they got a decent defense?

20 Aug 2017 22:56:13
He had a fair bit, and wrongly had a pen given against him in first 15 mins! But saved!

21 Aug 2017 00:05:33
Fair play!

21 Aug 2017 18:53:37
Thanks Chris :)

20 Aug 2017 11:05:01
We've tried one up top nearly every game this season, using Hogan and Gabby, neither are strikers who hold the ball up. Davies should have scored yesterday if we're honest, but we got away with those chances because of how he held it up and brought others into play, hope we see Davies and Hogan together soon, every run Davies made yesterday he was found, with hogan next to him and Davies occupying the centre halves, the midfield can find Hogan easier. Only thing with two up top is sacrificing one of the 3 in the middle, which as we saw yesterday was so effective, so when not in possession one of the two up front have to fill in the middle, Hogan easily has the energy to do that.

Johnstone
Taylor Terry Chester Bree
Green Whelan Hourihane Elmo
Hogan Davies
Then swap Whelan with Jedinak when fit, gives us good balance and should be the team to drag us up the league.
Still can't see how we can play how we did yesterday at home and then become so disjointed and awful away from home.

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20 Aug 2017 14:04:38
What a delight to see a young player who can control a football and have awareness of all around him,
Not without strength as the Norwich c/ backs will testify
Please Bruce keep gabby away from the team in future
And I'm hoping to see o'hare getting a run out on Tuesday,

20 Aug 2017 07:40:59
Hope brucie sweet talks snodgrass double lively, seems the mackens are going to try and outbid us either on a loan deal or even to transfer.

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20 Aug 2017 08:39:09
Let's not get carried away with yesterday's result it was good it was just what was needed.
My biggest concern was our inability to keep a clean sheet at yesterday's game and kill Norwich and other teams off and this is what will prevent us from getting promoted.

I hope I'm wrong but from what I have seen this season and in preseason so far we will have another season like last year finishing in mid table having runs where we are good and picking up points then going on winless runs playing the crap going nowhere football we have seen at Cardiff and reading.

20 Aug 2017 09:02:13
I agree but i think this season the kids can make a difference home form we will always be good which is great but away we are awful. I actually think its in there heads now as Bruce as made such a big thing of it if we win 1 away we might be ok. Bruce has more lives than a cat yesturday he said we had to win to shut "them lot up" which I thought was bad we pay a lot of money to go away and when the performances aren't there we have right to moan 1 win doesn't change anything get us top 2 then we will talk but slate the fans and you won't be here long.

20 Aug 2017 10:08:11
By that same token, yesterday could well be the touch paper the club needed.
Goals, youth, and (according to my dad as I wasn't there) finally a killers instinct.

I've been told it could of finished double figures? That there was no sitting back, and really they went for the throat.

Maybe that was exactly what was needed. A wake up call. For me, Tuesday is massive. I do think the cup is meaningless, but momentum is everything. Another win, and goals, hopefully a clean sheet. and we can move forward.
A loss, and yesterday is forgotten.

20 Aug 2017 10:31:19
We have had hard fixtures aswel flackie you never know that corner might be turning.

20 Aug 2017 10:55:21
Sat back for max 10 minutes, conceded an then got straight back at them, our goals came at the perfect time to push us out and destroy their momentum. Makes a change normally we sit back for about 70 minutes.

20 Aug 2017 11:01:01
Definitely Flackie. Momentum is key but the truth is that yesterday Conor was played in a no 10 roll where he could do his thing. Davis and Green were willing runners and Elmo and Taylor gave more options. Whelan and Terry were better than I have seen so far. So a couple of pieces of the Villa jigsaw are in place still lots of work to do. Looked like we had a system that worked yesterday and CH was a leader.

20 Aug 2017 02:09:51
We have some outstanding youngsters hope there tied dwn to long cobtracts green, davis, murphy, hare, sulivan, an more have the talent to be class players.

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20 Aug 2017 07:36:36
If their not Villa10,then steve round should get the boot, the scouts will start showing up next, a sure sign our boys are a cut above other younguns coming through elsewhere, homegrown is the way to go now, and congratulations to brucie for having the baubles to play them at last, he might just have cracked it, no more mr. nice guy on the training field, he's the pack leader at last-now time step up against that harvey cream mob! UTV!

20 Aug 2017 00:14:56
Flackie, you're a jinx . 😆😆😆. Great win . I hear 😊😊.

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20 Aug 2017 00:40:31
Sadly so! Lol.

19 Aug 2017 22:44:40
John Terry - at fault for their second goal today, didn't track his man leaving him in acres of space. Can argue Bree shouldn't have let the cross come in but because of the space Olivera was left in it was such an easy goal to avoid. We've conceded 9 goals in 4 games, either Terry isn't cut out for the championship and Baker gave us a more solid back line or Jedinak is just as important as any of the defense in us keeping clean sheets.

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19 Aug 2017 22:01:37
The season starts now then fellas? Kodjia back soon, players getting fitter, got a sneaky 1 that Leeds might go in for McCormack (transfer only, no loan or forget it) now it looks like Wood is off and they've got the cash. Bang the kids in against Wigan and give them the freedom to go for it, 3 points against Bristol with rested players, a surprise loan signing or 2, onwards and upwards

UTV.

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19 Aug 2017 23:07:22
Thats sounds great where do I sign?

20 Aug 2017 00:09:40
Tick my agree box and because you have, someone will disagree with you, even though you have been positive, and we can't be having those shenanigans going on round here WTW lol? 😉 On another subject, Davies, roughly the same age as Kane when he started off becoming a goal machine because his manager stuck with him, and at a higher level than the Championship, could be the 1 we've been waiting for?

UTV.

 


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