Aston Villa Banter Archive May 01 2017 to May 31 2017

31 May 2017 12:48:48
Just listen to the David Wagner on sky he said it doesn't matter how big you are how rich you are how experienced you are all you need is passion and fight omg I so wish we had him has manager his passion and Enthusiasm is infectious. I now get it like he said doesn't matter about players difference is his players would die for him. Our players lack passion apart from hutton and kodjia.

31 May 2017 14:12:29
Abd the penny drops.

31 May 2017 16:57:56
*and!

31 May 2017 17:53:32
Is this not what 99% of us keep posting.
Not sure about Kodjia passion I would call it selfish. Same goes for most of the players. They get their money regardless of result.
The only thing that Lerner could be credited with was his original quest for performance related play. However he never got it.
Motivation is a winner and it can be bought.

30 May 2017 13:51:28
Not a rumour but just a wish, mentioned him last year and a year down the line he looks even better, fast, strong and good at link play, young striker by the name of ollie watkins at exeter.

what's more he's down to earth and not the big 'i am'. brighton, derby, reading, and the likes of bournemouth, southampton, burnley, and the palace have all sent scouts to watch him this season (just gone), and the knuckle-draggers have been sniffing about too.

the lad is quality and a real handful for defenders, i don't think we'd go far wrong in buying him, so how come steve round isn't on his bike trying to dig up nuggets like watkins? makes even more sense if our financial clout is diminished because of fair play rules?

31 May 2017 08:21:08
Mike's post is the best I have seen,
Yes I am not a Bruce fan but I've said many times stability is the key,
I've said Bruce needs to get his preseason with his players and we go from there,
Christmas is the time to assess then where to go If we are not in the mix at top of table
If there is no improvement then I would seriously think about a change but with the squad we have we have the strongest squad in the championship,
We just need Bruce to get the tactics right and formation,
I really do hope he gets it right because the longer we stay in this division the harder it is to get out that's for sure,
So villa have my backing 100% along with Bruce who I really hope does ram the negative vibes about him from me down my throat,

29 May 2017 12:56:40
Villa daz Iam not saying I don't like Bruce Iam just saying we should be targeting better players than barnsley players the last two he brought can't even get in the team and while we are on it lansbury has a 44 per cent pass rate hasn't scored or set up a goal since being here. Bruce needs to buy better.

29 May 2017 13:02:27
Had you heard of half the Brighton team before we went down? Mind you your Mr Know it all so I guess that was a silly question really!

29 May 2017 13:35:03
See alex bruce is clear favourite to come to villa!
These are the type of signing we could do without sentiment and all that jazz.
Prehaps he can find a job for his daughter as well!
Just hope to God this is a false rummor.

29 May 2017 13:46:58
And there you have it Bob in your last word RUMOUR.

29 May 2017 13:59:49
Nothing would please more if Bruce got us up even though I don't rate him so high as some on here think,
We all have our own opinions on everything to do with villa,
But what I don't like is seeing some posters on here who like to insult other posters intelligents,
Keep it sensible and I will banter with the best of them,
I used to be on another villa blog and the abuse being thrown at each other was really disgusting and degrading to a human being,
So let's just banter and enjoy the highs and the lows of supporting the best team in the Midlands bar none,

29 May 2017 14:33:50
Villadaz
Very true about the rumour!
But he has worked with his dad at 2 clubs and there is a good chance he could end up at villa,
He is free and wages would be low compared to gabby and Co,
I hope he stays well away we will just have to see.

29 May 2017 15:25:40
Why do you hope he stays away?
An experienced squad member.
A prem player.
Championship experience, promotion experience.

Or is it just incase he does sign, you can berate him and his dad with you far more superior knowledge?

29 May 2017 15:30:38
United we stand, divided we fall.

Constant negativity, finding fault, even when not there, criticism for the sake of it, and wanting failure, just to say 'told you so' is boring, and tedious.

We are a championship club. Deal with it. We need championship players, back bone, desire over skill, to get out this league. THEN WE GET PREM PLAYERS.

An average mid table prem side doesn't get out championship.

29 May 2017 16:55:27
Flackie

Why don't you accept everybody does not agree with your views!
We all have our own opinions and I respect all opinions from any fans but don't expect me to agree with your views,
Just chill out a little I say.

29 May 2017 16:59:06
I have been to every game home and away and what I have seen on the pitch is not football as I know it,
That again is my opinion?

29 May 2017 17:11:41
You sound like mrknowitall and still mrknowitall and walkthewalk there bob.

29 May 2017 17:14:42
Having an opinion is different to preaching it in every post.
And going to 'every game, home and away' doesn't make your point more valid!
Have an opinion, give it. But give it once. Not in every thread. If you do, the people who disagree are entitled to do the same.

Or is your opinion worth more because you let us know you go to every game?

29 May 2017 17:20:07
Villadaz

I don't know it all
I have my own views and I don't expect anybody to agree
It's my belief on what I see or hear,
If you don't like other bloggers who don't agree with you tuf!

29 May 2017 17:34:38
Just believe your own comments and sod everybody else!
Where has all the good hummor gone,

29 May 2017 17:47:45
Am I allowed to make a comment in as many threads as I like?
Is there a restriction on what you can say no matter how many times?
It's called having banter?
Or I'm I missing something!

30 May 2017 13:49:32
this season is going to be tougher than last year, in my opinion.

31 May 2017 15:54:26
Gyou may well be right class82 bout a tougher season. The bruce will have had a preseason though. The players have a full season to look forward to in stead of coming from behind in half the season, which is how it played out, I think we will be okay. I hope that we can off load and buy 4or5. It will be nice to see who he will bring in.

29 May 2017 00:03:36
Alex woodyard, come on down; the price is right!

29 May 2017 09:38:22
Thought we were signing ian beale?

29 May 2017 10:47:12
might aswel bob. Bruce is awful at buying players Rdm brought better than him. Bruce jan signings have been awful so far I will tell you straight bob no punches. The players everybody talks about last year chester jed kodjia all Rdm signings nobody mentions Bruces rubbish a lot of it can't even get in the team. We need Rdm buying players and Bruce managing them lol. Have you heard that extra bit of class that bruce was on about bob its not from abroad or the prem or even Brighton its from that team full of Galacticos Barnsley hope there all like james bree we be in for a treat then.

29 May 2017 10:58:38
Could not agree more about Bruce,
This is what I am worried about lack of serious quality,
If rummors are true about going to barnsley Lincoln and the like to get us promoted then I am seriously worried where we are going,

29 May 2017 11:42:15
I think you two was in Harry Enfield Sketch show the miserable old gits.

29 May 2017 18:21:30
RDM bought better players? Gollini, Tshibola, Elphick, McCormack, De Laet? We were all screaming for us to buy Gayle who went for £8M I think? De Laet for about £3M and we shoulda bought Yedlin for a few £M more, the club they went to got promoted.

I'd say we were hoping that RDM would score us a few Chelski loanees but the cream of their kids/ reserves ended up at clubs that generally finished above us. In Jan we bought the best performing players in their respective teams and we were all happy with them at the time. What's cost us was that run in Jan and not having Kodjia at the same time. Give Bruce this season with a bit of tinkering and a full pre season and we should be challenging.

UTV.

29 May 2017 20:44:53
I post rarely on here, but when I do I always try my upmost to be positive

Positivity breeds positivity in my book

For the likes of walk the walk, side show bob and others that frequent these pages. stop the continual moaning and get a grip!

We have been pretty awful as a club for the last 25 years with the exception of the O'Neil era.

But we are VTID . and come good or bad they will always have my support.

2 of the 3 teams promoted this season was given no chance of doing so . They didn't have better players than we did, also in brightons case I don't believe they had a manager who plays any different in style to Steve Bruce

What Brighton and Huddersfield do have though is a positive attitude from the top to the bottom of the club .

It's about time we all stopped taking for granted that we will win because were Aston Villa. We haven't achieved anything for over 2 decades.

Just be positive, enjoy what Villa offers which is a sense of belonging and let stand roar the team back to the premier league by just offering unwavering support.

29 May 2017 22:46:28
Spot on Kenn

UTV.

31 May 2017 16:01:38
Well said villaken, i'm with you there .

28 May 2017 13:57:35
So we brought 2 Barnsley players already and now we linked with another two? Question is if Barnsley are that great why are they not at least top 6? Is this the bit of quality Steve Bruce was on about lol I was expecting well known proven premier players or at least somebody we have heard of hope the Rumours are wrong we are Aston Villa for god sake.

28 May 2017 16:02:03
Blimey, are you seriously asking that as a question?
The question is "are they good players in their own right"
Your inference seems to be they can't be any good because you don't know much about them. Surely, identifying players that are good enough for what we all want is Bruce's job. Now you may think he's not up to it but that is another question.
If you don't know anything about these players but are simply dismissing them on the basis that they are from Barnsley you are making yourself sound daft.

28 May 2017 17:25:53
Some of the players we have bought we can recognize there names but they still have been rubbieh.

28 May 2017 17:30:16
If Barnsley were that great why was they not challenging to go up if we do get these that's 4 we had from Barnsley they might be ok i don't no but the 2 we had off them are no great shakes both of them can't even get in the team and Bruce brought them so what's that saying?

28 May 2017 17:45:23
sorry for the spelling mistake i should have put rubbish.

28 May 2017 19:30:21
We had more than enough in term of quality to challenge near the top end of the table; we didn't, so do we ditch all the players and start again?
Your argument is that of a 6 year old.

28 May 2017 21:11:22
1st of all there's no need to get personal all I am saying is the last 2 players he brought from Barnsley struggle to get in the team. I have watched Barnsley and seen where they have come in the league an Iam not impressed at all there average at best. We havnt got as much quality as you say with out Kodjia we struggle. And away from home to be honest we are awful. If you want that little bit of quality its not at Barnsley trust me. Aston Villa are a Big club.

29 May 2017 14:26:46
Fair enough mate. If you've watched Barnsley extensively and have an informed opinion on their players ability then criticise them based on that, if that's what you feel is appropriate. I have no knowledge of them so would be grateful for the input.
However, what you seemed to be doing is saying they couldn't be any good because they were from Barnsley, which is a different thing entirely.

28 May 2017 05:28:28
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new player profile about, Stewart Downing

27 May 2017 14:37:28
Why do we get Linked with every Barnsley player possible? Sure there are better options around.

27 May 2017 22:03:28
I don't know. How good or bad are the Barnsley players you are complaining about?
If you don't know either then it's going to be impossible for anyone to answer that question to your satisfaction, surely?

26 May 2017 13:43:14
Hope Tony Xia's heart problem is now behind him and he is on the way to full recovery. I love what he is doing at the club i have supported for the last 58 years.

In my opinion there is no way we want to lose Steve Bruce, there is no way Kodjia will leave (who is going to sanction a spend of £30mil on someone who has a broken ankle? )

The dead wood need to be shipped out as soon as possible. Richards, Gabby, gil, bunn, Gardner, Elphick. Vertout (but would like to keep him if he can agree to stay and perform) possible other sales Amavi, bacuna. I think this could raise 20-25 mill to strengthen. Play offs are a minimum requirement for next season. 4 positions required to be strengthened - Keeper, Centre half, playmaker, pacey left sided wideman.

26 May 2017 08:46:46
Talking of reminiscing does anyone remember Star soccer on a sunday and queuing up for the Sports Argos at 6 on a Saturday?

26 May 2017 10:23:22
Ha ha at risk of showing my age yes daz I loved the argos still see the paper now with the league on the back i remember waiting for it a while aswel if games went on longer what a paper that was before skysports news.

26 May 2017 12:52:37
I still have the May 6th 1957 copy of the ARGUS and the Green Mail a rival paper.
Does that date me?

26 May 2017 13:48:08
Them were the days,
The sports argus Tony Butler and his prayer mat!
They were happier days so badly missed.

26 May 2017 13:49:26
You can stick sky sports,

26 May 2017 13:53:30
In them far off days I had a lift to the ground with Alan deakin!
Remember him fellow fans,
Can you see this happening this days with the big ego players,

26 May 2017 17:30:04
Hahaha remember the pink argos very well it was my jb to go pick it up. which meant i got first dibs before my dad and brother. Remember the butler prayer mat, WHo do you hail, RONSAUNDERS. great memories lads.

25 May 2017 20:02:38
Football related, but not villa!
I can't understand why so many managers are walking away from their clubs.

For example, Gary monk. Does he think he will walk into a better job than Leeds?

25 May 2017 21:03:31
Crystal palace Flackie. Maybe not better than Leeds, but in the premier league.

25 May 2017 23:25:58
Might not get a bigger club but will get a bigger contract.

25 May 2017 23:48:23
The lack of integrity and loyalty in football is getting worse.
Hard to maintain passion for a sport that constantly takes takes takes.
Hey ho!

26 May 2017 00:17:06
I agree Flackie, now his a question for you do footballers care if they win or lose? I know a lot want to win but I don't think there bothard if they lose. might be just me but I really don't think players are as passionate as they once was. Now on to managers Big Sam left for family reasons which you can't blame him. Leeds had a new owner and Garry Monk wasnt happy apparently but on the subject Stevie Bruce has quit so many times at clubs aswel mate I think a manager as to be happy now days or he will walk. But people like remi garde and sherwood didn't walk they stayed in a impossible situation so there is some good guys I know they wasnt great managers but they showed guts staying.

26 May 2017 09:35:23
Now this will probably sound slightly right of centre, but not intended as such. 20 - 30 years ago bulk of teams consisted of English, Irish, Scottish and welsh players with a slight sprinkling of European or South American.

The home nations lads knew the teams, knew the history and could associate with the fans. There was a general wish to win.

Fast forward 30 years where you have players from countries that have no idea where they are, who have no idea of the team, it's fans or it's history. Their philosophy being if the team goes down I get my agent to force a transfer.

I have no idea how to fix that problem, unless a struck rule is imposed that a certain proportion of the squad, say 65% are English etc. in the short term quality might suffer, but in the long term we may get the passion back from these ponces.

26 May 2017 10:28:56
agree totally, monk leaving I find baffling, but for me just re-inforces my admiration for dyche. has had chances to leave burnley for bigger clubs, possibly not in a good a position as burnley currently, but many managers have made the jump for less.
i think brucie recognises he is a good position right now but i am sure he knows that the pressure is on this season.

25 May 2017 13:32:01
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Middlesbrough Season Review

24 May 2017 15:01:14
Not villa I know, but let's spare a thought for those killed in Manchester . How can anyone do an atrocity like that, in the name of religion . To all the many injured children, let's hope they can recover soon .

24 May 2017 16:42:49
Football takes a back seat when something so disgusting happens to kill or mame young kids enjoying themselves,
This is happening more and more now and I fear it will get worse,
How can you stop these disgusting cretins
My heart goes out to all who were either killed or badly injured,
How do the family of these people feel right now,
RIP to all who lost there so short lives.

23 May 2017 16:29:57
I would just like to wish Dr Tony our chairman a quick recovery from heart surgery.

23 May 2017 17:19:08
All the best Tony hope for a quick and successful recovery.

23 May 2017 19:25:04
Agreed boys, well said.

24 May 2017 09:43:15
Hoping dr tony makes a speedy recovery!

23 May 2017 00:23:57
Mo diame anyone? - maybe up for grabs, i'd definitely sign him, and bruce knows him of old, the holy trinity of hourrihane, lansbury and diame in midfield, now THAT would be a sight to see, go on brucey, give them elphick, richards, veretout and gil, heck, throw in amavi, go for it!

20 May 2017 21:00:52
Been a while since I was on here. Partly as I forgot the password lol

These four or five QUALITY players villa are hoping to get. Who are they?

I'm guessing the Man U loanee is one.

Has Steve nailed him down yet as some say yes and others say no.

21 May 2017 09:19:31
Hello Irish!
We missed you, just assumed you had a bigger than expected crop of potatoes this year!

Can't make any signings official until the current season totally finishes, so not confirmed yet.

21 May 2017 13:11:59
Hey mister. Missed you too.

God was good with the potatoes this year. Very important as you english stole our corn lol

Like every villa fan I'm sickened that newcastle went straight back up. Just want the signings done in the first couple of weeks of the closed season and then work like hell to gel the team.

Start the new season as a unit as opposed to 11 strangers.

21 May 2017 13:29:57
Bang on mate.
Could not agree more! But I won't hold my breath!

21 May 2017 13:46:38
It has to happen this season otherwise I can see the chinese guy losing interest and then we are in serious smelling stuff stuck in the championship.

21 May 2017 15:30:51
I agree. But I do think it was always a 2 year plan.

21 May 2017 17:48:35
I really hope so Flackie. With all my heart I hope you're right.

20 May 2017 14:24:24
Just a qwick question something I can't get my head round why if we turned down 25 million 6 months ago for Amavi are we now talking about 8 or 9 million? Dr. Tony said we turned down 25 million what's happend in 6 months?

20 May 2017 14:30:28
Everyone has realised he isn't as good as they thought.

20 May 2017 14:32:04
Walkthewalk

Good question.?

20 May 2017 14:35:14
But thinking about it about amavi he was playing much better when the 25mill supposed offer came in,
Since that bid he has being very average I must say,
Would you pay 25mil for him on present form?

20 May 2017 15:25:13
If in a fit of hubris, Dr Tony had said we'd turned down 50 million would you be asking the same question?
What I'm suggesting is that the good doctor may have exaggerated a little
If we get 9 mill form a fullback who can't defend we will have done well.

20 May 2017 16:50:49
Mendax
It could be the only deal where we get our money back?
We have lost out on every other deal,

20 May 2017 17:59:12
I have never known anyone who is so negative, on every aspect.
It's so tedious, boring, and to be deadly honest, uneducated.

20 May 2017 18:53:29
Did we not get back what we paid for Gestede?
If you think we should hold out and wait for a profit on our investment, good luck with that Bob.

20 May 2017 19:05:51
Have I touched a nerve with some of you!
Is this not a blog for opinions?
Or am I missing somethink.

20 May 2017 19:07:21
Just for the few what are the positives you can take out for our season!

20 May 2017 20:15:34
Bob mate it has been a tough 1st season in the championship everybody is trying to look on the bright side of things that's all the rubbish players at every club you tend not to make a profit on. The good ones that you can make profit on you don't want to sell its just how it works. Hopfully in the summer we can raise about 25 million and Bruce can get the quality his after. Keith Wyness said today Steve Bruce is the best manager he has met so trust in time this club will be great again. I do take your point on board we usually don't sell for decent money but thatcwas the old regime give Dr. Tony a chance his still learning aswel mate but at least his trying which is more than lerner. Everybodys views are important on here mate keep it coming.

20 May 2017 21:29:38
You haven't touched a nerve. I just think you are naive and deluded.
What positives?

Our home record.

The poison that was at our club, the total belief in failing has mainly left. I say mainly as it's still in places like this.

The way our new owner promotes the club in investment and passion.

The way we no longer lay down and die.

Did you honestly think we would just get straight back up, especially with the previous 5 seasons? Are you that stupid to think we have a devine right to be in the prem?
You have to go through the siht to experience the highs.

We are nearly through it, why try to drag us back in?

21 May 2017 08:44:31
Our only positive in my eyes is the new owner,
He has done better than I expected,

21 May 2017 09:17:02
Yet you try to find a fault in all his decisions!

21 May 2017 11:41:43
Kodija and Chester are not positives?

18 May 2017 19:40:48
Would anyone be tempted to take adoma traore back to the villa?

18 May 2017 22:26:20
yes swap deal for Gabby.

19 May 2017 00:19:11
Be very intresting because he said there's no way his playing in the championship so guess he will want to leave boro now they went down? no I wouldn't take him back the guy was a crock for us then when we need him he leaves no thank you! If we want a cheap winger nathan dyer be my choice. Here is a question back at you smudge would you take Rudy gestede back?

19 May 2017 06:31:06
I thought gestede was under rated by many. Problem was he is more of an impact player from the bench and I guess he wants to play the full 90 minutes. Think hogan will come good so I wouldn't have him back. The one I think we should try and sign is the lad jota from Brentford, proper footballer or maybe foresteri now that Wednesday never made it out of the division.

19 May 2017 09:30:16
I would take both of them mate both look decent players think foresteri wants to leave anyway.

19 May 2017 09:58:39
but why? when he actually got on the pitch for us all he did was get the ball and run really fast into the wall that is a defender (once in a while he got past) and that's if he took the ball with him, and from the games i saw of middlesboro this season he's still doing the pretty much same trick.

19 May 2017 11:09:34
No way would I bring back gestude and odoma,
We need new blood with pace and not so injury prone as some players,
I think the major issue is how to get rid of the players we want gone,
This is not as easy as some fans think,
Gabby, Richards both on 100 grand a week between them!
Can you seriously think they will go?
They both have it easy so think they will just stay and pick up them big wages,
It's going to be a very interesting summer I think,

19 May 2017 13:12:44
Totally agree with you bobvillain, new blood is what is needed, but not untill we get rid of dead wood. which we have a lot of. gabby, richards, gill, veretout. we so need a clear out. As you say and i agree, its not a simple task to off load these players, Its going to be a difficult summer.

19 May 2017 13:57:58
Hi just to say I wouldn't take rudy gestede or traore back it was a mistake by the edds i never written that fresh blood is what I like.

{Ed001's Note - it is your words, the mistake is yours. Don't try and pin the blame on others for your errors.}

19 May 2017 14:10:01
Why would i write that I wouldn't take them back then 2 min later write i would lol? Must be a miss understanding somewhere.

{Ed007's Note - Your post hasn't been edited or changed so if there's any misunderstanding it's on your part. We can look back and see every post in their original form, even posts that don't make it onto the sites.}

19 May 2017 14:16:04
Sorry edds my mistake read it wrong i was asked about jota and Forestieri but i said i would take them both but it was misinterpreted to be rudy and traore.

{Ed001's Note - no worries I see what you mean now. It is just posts get mixed in sometimes.}

19 May 2017 14:51:07
Can see grealish going in summer,
What do you think!

19 May 2017 15:48:39
No Bob Grelish will stay I really don't think his impressed anybody enough to go but that's only my view. I would really like see micah and gabby leave aswel.

19 May 2017 16:52:47
Walkthewalk

I agree about Richards and gabby they have overstayed there welcome at villa,
Also bacuna I want gone,
With grealish he has talent but you don't see it enough,
I can see someone coming in for him with a cheeky bid,

19 May 2017 19:10:08
You never no mate you can have all the talent in the world if you lack desire u won't win. I would rather have hard work any day.

17 May 2017 11:22:22
Bobvillian - as many have said over the sands of time on here, if we keep chopping and changing managers then nothing will be achieved, people have quoted leeds and their hiring and firing, and some point to how well Sheffield Wednesday are doing by sticking by their Portuguese 'man of war'. however, it seems carvalhio may be losing his job to pardew, if pardew agrees a deal, and as for us and bruce, yes his record speaks for itself for promotion.

however i must agree with you, for those out there who want to disagree, let them, most of them said the same about RDM, and we know how that worked out! -look at jaap stam at reading, he's gone in, and turned a club with no special talent (no discourtesy meant to reading) into a well oiled machine, they've knocked out fulham (the favourites to go up) and done it on a budget of tuppence, and more over, he's got them playing to a system that makes them look good and punch a lot higher than they have any right too.

so Bobvillian, ignore those on here who call you a clown and belittle your opinion, their the same ones who told some of us on here to stop saying rdm wasn't the right manager for us, they seem to have quickly forgotten that their not so good at seeing potential either.

if we have any cahoonas we should try and go for the likes of stam, or marco silva, but as usual the little clique on here will muscle up and try and brow-beat those who won't put up with a dogs' dinner of a team, a proper manager would have whooped them into shape within 5-8 games, we all know it, we just don't want to admit he's not going to get us up any time soon, that's the truth unfortunately, but as usual act like it'll be fine, well it won't, unless we do something right now.

17 May 2017 11:54:25
Classof82
As for others who call me
a clown well coco is my middle name so who cares?
It's all about opinions as you know to well,
I don't dislike Bruce as a person at all,
He was just was not my choice of a manager to take us on to the next level,
Tactics wise he is a dinosaur,
But that's only my opinion,
I leave it to others to judge,

17 May 2017 12:58:34
Negativity breeds negativty.

17 May 2017 19:37:28
I can't believe they gave him the job knowing he wasn't your first choice, they do have egg on their faces now.

17 May 2017 23:26:33
We must have the most negative people I say people because they are not supporters of our club why can't you get it into your thick skulls that our club has been in a mess for years and to build it back in 1 season from top to bottom is a job in its self it's simple if you don't back then go and watch cricket or support another club because the likes of you are not wanted as supporters.

18 May 2017 00:19:34
And so the brow-beating begins, let's say bruce does a great job and gets us promoted, who on here thinks he can mastermind a campaign that'll have us mid-table if not higher? any takers?

i doubt it, football has moved on but bruce hasn't, can anyone tell me what calderwood has brought to us that has had a stark effect? yet the brighton players all said they enjoyed the training sessions and how he tried out new ideas which kept them interested, he comes to us, and what?

thats the point, people slag off allardyce, but forget he brought back sports science techniques from playing in america and helped transform bolton; he's always looking to improve the players and if they don't get it, he'll change tack till they click, can you honestly say bruce is as open or willing to seize the initiative?

he'll stay and i hope he gets us up but let's be honest, you can see the players are mentally bored, just the same usual routine, like groundhog day, remember when graeme taylor (God rest his soul) joined us, his enthusiasm was contageous, the same with sherwood, big ron, they were prepared to think outside the box, can you say the same for brucey?

look at conte at chelsea, man alive his passion is infectious, our players look like they've become robots sometimes, hopefully brucey will come back energized and hungry, otherwise its another season of dogs-dinner football.

18 May 2017 08:04:06
Just out of curiosity who is the best side you have seen down Villa Park this season Bob and Classof82?

18 May 2017 09:45:47
Villadaz - you said it takes more than a year to sort the club out; how long did it take stam at reading, monk at leeds, warnock at cardiff? i think it took them roughly no more than 8 games to turn it around.

bruce's job is the first team, others are in place for any other club business, and bear in mind none of them have spent anywhere near what we have, we have a wealth of talent others envy, 'all the gear and no idea springs to mind, we all want us up again, but the obvious question is why can't we play just 1 game, that's 90 minutes, of football where we actually reach our potential, not 10 minute bursts, followed by simple schoolboy mistakes on a regular basis.

when was the last time you went to the game, with pride and passion in your heart and on the pitch, so to say it takes more than a season doesn't ring true to me, look at redknapp, there's no way he should have kept the knuckle draggers up, they had no optimism and were fighting amongst themselves when he stepped in, they could've got a draw easily against us, and he kept them up, that's the point, like the likes of big ron, warnock, allardyce, marco silva, they get players on side from the start.

no need for a season to sort it out, and remember, harry's squad was threadbare and well under achieving, we got no excuses, but for some reason, you and others on here seem to be making excuses for him, if he proves me wrong then great, but with no real budget, let's see if bruce can inspire the squad.

18 May 2017 11:49:04
Jesus swept but non of the clubs you have mentioned have been in turmoil like us for the last 5-6 years we was a proven PL club it's a shock to the system we have had to rebuild sack RDM (Who I didn't want but backed) and get a proven championship manager in to get us out of this league I seem to remember when Bruce came he gave us a lift and got us out of the relegation battle I hope beyond all hope he gets it right so you moaners can crawl back under your stones and stay there oh and you never answered my question from my previous post.

18 May 2017 12:23:31
Villadaz
Sure ain't aston villa that's a fact!
Take your pick really,
We have being outplayed by almost every team if I'm honest,
Our best display was away to Brighton,
1 good performance in 30+ games,

18 May 2017 13:26:33
We have taken points off all the top teams in this division including the 2 that have gone up so how can you sit behind your computers and spout that we are cat man do and the manager is useless is beyond me he inherited a mess and is trying to sort it ill say it before and I'll say it again I don't care if we play rubbish and win would you say that if we won the league silly question that I know the answer to that already.

18 May 2017 14:13:18
Villadaz

That's your opinion mate,
This blog is all about opinions ,
In my opinion Bruce is a very negative manager who sets his teams to keep tight try to get a goal then sit deep to defend, .
Plus the worse football I have seen for many years,
But I say again that's my opinion only,
If your happy with how things are going then fine that's your opinion,
Not me!

18 May 2017 14:15:42
If Bruce does get villa up next year I will congratulate him,
I will give credit when it's due,

19 May 2017 10:13:12
Villadaz - i haven't been able to watch much of any games at the cathedral because i've been 2 busy moaning and crawling under me rock fella, lol! - look, we've all had doubts about different managers in the past but like you say, you keep supporting them, but now is different guvnor, this league is a ball-breaker, this is now going to be our second season, our budget is small this summer and the 3 relegated teams all have 50 million plus to spunk on whoever they fancy.

so the play-offs would seem to be the route we'll take, for that you need a strong minded gaffer to navigate, bruce is a lovely fella i'm sure, but that's not what we need, put it this way, if i put 3 managers on the pitch, bruce, stam, wagner and asked all us fans to choose one to lead us, honestly daz, who would you pick, all i'm saying is i don't think bruce would get the gold medal, we've got this and next season of parachute payments.

i just want a manager with a system, who the players like and want to play for, who are here not for the dough or use us as a stepping stone, but buy into the vision and want to be part of it, a crazy idea i know, but if the likes of redknapp, warnock, monck and stam can do it, how come we can't, and by the way i think cardiff were in a slightly worse state than we were, but that's beside the point, anyways must dash, some bright spark has challenged me to go find a cricket team to follow!

16 May 2017 18:53:13
Personally don't think we are in a bad place.
We sell the shite:
Elpick 2 mil
Gabby 1mil
Hogan 5 mil
McCormack 5mil
Gil 4 mil
Amavi 8 mil
Grealish 5 mil
Richards 1 mil
Gardener 1 mil
There's a nice 32 mil plus all the money of there wages
Ins:
I'd try keep veretout give him another chance
Assombalonga 5 mil
Abraham loan
Gradel 5 mil
Johnstone loan
Jota 6 mil
Try Lewis baker on loan
Try that hector from Chelsea on loan
Maybe buy flint 2 mil
Might aswell take Watkins on free with cheap wage
Give toner, green, rhm a chance
That's a team that will compete.

16 May 2017 20:26:00
You think Hogan is worth the same as McCormack?
You think we could get 5 mil for McCorrmack and only pay 5 Mil for Asombalonga?
It's easy on paper this buying and selling malarky.

17 May 2017 08:47:21
Looks easy on paper on players you want out the club,
We will still be left with the usual useless rubbish come start of season,
Would love to see all them players in your post gone but honestly how many can you see going,?
Gabby, Richards, bacuna are all happy enough to do jack rubbish and take the readys every week,
Sad times ahead I fear,

15 May 2017 00:23:14
I know you will all disagree but having thought about it and watched the youth a lot not spending loads of money can only be a good thing. I really like our youth we don't need eg a striker we have RHM Davis to help hogan and mCcormack and gabby an kodjia when his back. Steve Bruce brought players in January and they havnt really worked bar taylor and Johnstone so why not give youth ago there hungry and from what I have seen more than capable. Our squad including youth and players out on loan is huge so let's look at our youth judging Steve Bruces signings so far i would say youth is a better option anyway! Go on hit that disagree button but let's not forget Bruce himself questioned some of his signings.

15 May 2017 08:30:00
We do have some good young players but not the best manager to get the best out of them!

15 May 2017 09:35:31
It's no secret that the top 6 sides in championship that 5 are managed by foreign coaches,
We missed a trick with sacking garde who spent sod all but had to put up with players causing trouble behind the scenes and getting no backing from the board,
now wE have a manager who tactical is inept.

15 May 2017 10:03:33
Bruce is not the manager to take us forward,
He is very tactically inept and when we do take a 1 goal lead it's always defend that lead at all costs,
To defensive for my liking,
I really hope we go up next year but I'm not convinced by this guy,
We have some decent players but for whatever reasons we seem to play these guys out of there preferred positions,
They looked good at there previous clubs but when they come here they look completely different players
You must look at the manager and coaches for this problem,
We get the same excuses after every game from him,
Please change the record Bruce it's getting very tedious now,
If after 10 games next season we are not in the top 2 then I would get rid,
In fact left to me he should go now,
Never been a big fan of him but was willing to give him a chance but he has disappointed me up to now,

15 May 2017 10:40:29
lol you should be on stage!
Do you have a red nose, and a flower that squirts water?

15 May 2017 12:01:59
Bob i respect your view, I actually think you make some good points I said many a time that tactics are not Bruces bag and we are only bothard about the transfer budget because his not getting the best out of his players so far ask yourself this if the same players was back on market this summer would you get your money back? However he needs more time to spend with the squad I think when your playing game after game in the championship its hard to get your style across because you spend less time on the training pitch. He has a proven record at this level so for that reason should be given time. Getting a manager in from abroad is not always the answer remi garde was useless mate so was Rdm. Iam not saying Bruce is great but I can understand him and his honest. We need to get rid of all the bad boys at Villa Gabby Grelish Micah Bacuna there attuide is wrong and it spills out on the pitch! We need people with hutton attuide 1st in training gives 100 percent everyweek. We need to change the attuide in the club not the manager.

15 May 2017 12:23:25
That is the best and most intelligent post you have ever posted.

15 May 2017 14:36:36
When a manager comes in to villa and then suggests that gabby is worthy of another contract then that tells me all I want to know if he is worthy of being villa manager!
Also putting Richards on the bench when there are young players in squad who deserves a chance,
No for all fans who support Bruce take note!
Agree green/ Russian green/ lyden/ will not get the chance under Bruce I'm convinced about that,
Gabby will live on his memory of scoring against the scum?

15 May 2017 18:27:10
Oh God not another one.

15 May 2017 18:39:04
Yeah, because abroad they don't have managers who finish bottom of any of the league or play terrible football. And even if they did, they'd probably sack them and get someone in from overseas. Foreign is best as we know.

16 May 2017 08:36:26
So am I allowed my opinion on villa matters or do I agree with everybody on here?
Bruce out now!

16 May 2017 10:09:45
Troll or again another duplicate account.

{Ed001's Note - Bobvillian is the same as MainBob.}

16 May 2017 10:14:01
Are we not allowed to disagree?
Or was it the keep garde comment?

16 May 2017 10:26:39
Is Bruce still here!

16 May 2017 10:54:07
Bob mate you are allowed. A few people might disagree at times people did with me last year when I said Rdm was poor. But come on who else would come to Aston Villa at the moment no money to spend?

A team full of average players and at least 4 players with awful attuide. Who do you want? Will he come in and make micah richards, jack Grealish, Gabby Agbonlahor, Bacuna nice lads and die for the course No, Its not always the managers mate we have players no other club would touch with a barge pole we can't get rid of what ever manager came in would have the same problems.

People ask why is lansbury hogan Connor Houlihane bree all good till they join here I will tell you why at there clubs there's no big iams they come to Aston Villa and Gabby Micah Grelish Bacuna drip there poison into them and they start worrying more about there wages. Not Bruce's fault.

16 May 2017 10:55:41
Not another double poster! Lol.

16 May 2017 11:06:16
Are you?

16 May 2017 11:50:33
I was mainbob but I had issues trying to log in so I changed my username,
Sorry about that to all who called me a troll!
Back to the debate now about Bruce,
I will give any manager who is in charge of my club a chance to impress,
But with the games that Bruce has been in charge the football on offer is the worse I have seen for many years,
Where is the high tempo football he says he craves for?
The number of games where we are 1-0 up then we defend for our lives against even the worse teams in the division,
No I'm sorry to say if we stick with this guy I can't see us going up next season,

16 May 2017 11:57:23
It's never Bruce's fault is it?
He carry s the can like sherwood, garde, lambert,
They get paid good money to manage,
Live or die on results is the game,
Some manager's get loads of money to change things around some get sod all,
With the squad we have we should be more than good enough for play-off s at least.

16 May 2017 20:30:39
You are entitled to your opinion Bob. And if people think you are wrong or talking nonsense they are entitled to say so
It's a chat site mate. That's sort of how they work.

17 May 2017 08:49:17
Not got a problem with that,
It's free speech and I welcome that,

19 May 2017 14:17:19
We're in agreement then.

12 May 2017 00:13:13
David Moyes has tonight said Sunderland are the biggest team in the championship next season and will be a real scalp for teams next season. Ĺeeds fans disagree and they there the biggest Aston Villa are a big club so question is who is the biggest club in the championship? I say Aston Villa easy but why do others disagree when they havnt got Aston Villas history? Does attendance matter? How is it judged?

12 May 2017 06:43:15
Why is it important?

12 May 2017 06:43:57
Ego?

'My dads bigger than your dad? '

12 May 2017 08:37:43
He can say what he wants takes the pressure off us Imo.

12 May 2017 11:08:12
Well because good players go to big clubs. So I was intrested in what makes a big club? You said in a post we are a big club but not a huge club David Moyes then said Sunderland are the biggest in the championship Leeds would then say they are. So what makes us all think we are a big club history attendances form now days just intrested to know what separates us from somebody like eg Forrest? Steve Bruce, says Aston Villa is a big draw for players why are we any differnt to any other championship side?

12 May 2017 11:12:39
Hahaha, let him, and Leeds, Palace m, Wednesday - throw them all in there. Let us go under the radar.

12 May 2017 12:23:31
draw wise surely we are the most well known club, but also don't forget the league ain't finished yet

i reckon palace or swansea are a bigger draw then we are right now and if they get relegated i think one them will be favs to go back up over us.

12 May 2017 13:07:15
Are Leicester a big club? And yet they are prem champions.

It's not the players, or the big name you sign, it's the team you build that matters.

History is good for bragging rights, songs and expectations, and at the end of the day, they mean nothing.

I would rather come under the radar, everyone think they are bigger and better, and get promoted, than be there to be shot down, and remain average.

As I tell mrs flackie, size doesn't matter!

12 May 2017 15:21:27
Not this old chestnut again.
Who cares.

12 May 2017 16:51:08
Ha ha good 1 flackie i tell the wife the same. She wants 90 min now as well she be lucky.

07 May 2017 13:59:06
i hate jack grealish.

07 May 2017 18:44:30
Hope that's suppose to be a joke because all tho jacks not always great he's 1 of us!

07 May 2017 19:21:03
Have you heard Craig Gardner today
I think you should divert your anger elsewhere
What a pillock (Gardner that is)

07 May 2017 19:59:38
if he didn't score newcastle wouldn't have won league. the little git hahaha.

07 May 2017 20:37:09
"I'm a villa fan through and through, I came through the system here and the last 5 years have been the best days of my life. I've got a year left on my contract and if the boss offers me another I'll be signing it" - unfortunately for Craig once you say something you can't take it back, embarrassing bloke.

07 May 2017 21:17:13
Jack is infuriating for sure could be so much better! He has found aan eye for goal but whether now sussed out by opponents his general flare and contribution to the team is less than good. I trust Bruce to make the necessary hard decisions and must have a competitive side come July with or without Jack UTV . I'm boycotting Harvey's Bristol Cream at xmas!

08 May 2017 18:27:43
If jack has a bad game everyone is on his case, if jack has a good game everyone is on his case. What the hell do you lot want yes he can get better but come on guys give him a break. There will always be a section of our fans that just want to whinge. The same people will never be satisfied.

08 May 2017 19:40:04
I agree with your last sentiment claret about the moaners however I have to agree with what most are saying about Jack he infuriates me yes he has the ability but you look at most players his age Ie Deli Ali, Dier, Barkley etc etc he won't even lace their boots.

09 May 2017 13:25:32
I see the sarcasm is strong with you people.

09 May 2017 13:27:35
Villadaz, take your point, I don, t mind constructive critisism there is a place for that. Its the moaning, and critisism for critisisms sake that gets my goat. let's hope the bruce buys well in the summer window mate, and off loads the deadwood. I love this club of ours and like yourself want the best for it. I, ve been a fan since i was five years old 59 years ago. Have seen some brilliant players pull that claret and blue shirt on.

06 May 2017 09:30:57
Think Steve Bruce should sign the lad from Brentford jota. Looks like the kind of flair player that we are crying out for. John ruddy would be a good addition to the squad aswell.

06 May 2017 10:48:52
If he just got players closer to hogan instead of 50 foot away lumping the ball to him. Hourihane and Lansbury have gone from the most dynamic, attacking mids in the league to boring, abject of ideas, good ball tactics. Grealish is played on the left hugging the touch line when he has the pace of a snail, and when he does get the ball in the middle, we are that deep in our own half he's got to try and carry it half the length of the pitch to get into a position to do anything. Hogan doesn't need a strike partner, he didn't have one at Brentford, what he did have was 2 or 3 players around him, buzzing off him.

06 May 2017 21:21:19
Chris can i ask you 2 questions?

1. Is Steve Bruce getting the best out of his players?

2. How do you rate Steve Bruce's tactics?

06 May 2017 23:40:34
1. No and 2. 3 - effective against better teams like when we beat Derby and Sheffield Wednesday, awful every other time.

07 May 2017 09:46:43
I only ask because I don't know if its just me but players seem to be playing out of position eg Lansbury is to deep to effect the game Grealish isn't a winger. Tactics Bruce doesn't seem to have a style of play his been here long enough brought a lot of players in most can't even make the team looking at both our points of view it doesn't look good for a team that's suppose to go straight up next season does it? Oh well let's enjoy our free beer today!

07 May 2017 10:44:34
Think hourihanes the best example for me, the most inform midfielder playing attacking midfield, he comes here and we play him as a restricted centre mid. Just strange decisions all over the pitch.

07 May 2017 20:15:25
The team always seem to be playing in the defensive style to try and avoid conceding. Is this what SB wants?
Clubs lower in the league plas on the front foot going forward and this is where Hourihane and Lansbury should be playing.
I don't think SB trusts the defence.

I like all of us wait to see what happens when the window opens as I don't think promotion will be a cert with what we have got.
Hogan, poor sod, needs the ball to score but the tactics look like he makes the numbers up.

August is 3 months away and SB has a huge amount of work to do.
This ain't negative it's 100% positive!

03 May 2017 06:34:01
With Roberto Carlos revealing he nearly joined Aston Villa before his move to Inter Milan, you lot must be breathing a sigh of relief to think you instead got the alternative, Gareth Southate!

Makes you wonder what could have been, with Carlos bombing down the left at a time when Villa were up there in the Prem.

03 May 2017 18:47:10
No need to rub it in guvnor!, but the big question is, would carlos have been on a pizza hut advert denoting how bad luck sometimes happens-see, being a winner like carlos really meant he was loser in the advert stakes! - nice one gareth, you showed them kid!

02 May 2017 14:50:02
Well people its near the end of the season few questions whos your player of the season? And what do you rate the manager steve Bruce out of 10 for the job his done?

02 May 2017 17:19:32
Kodjia/ Chester, 6 out 10 for Bruce.

02 May 2017 18:46:40
intresting you didn't put hutton in there but its each to there own. And i agree with you 6 out of 10 with Bruce.

01 May 2017 15:35:57
All this talk about Bruce is stupid, this chopping and changing of managers has got us where we are today all of these players aren't Bruce's I can't remember how many players we baught in last summer but only 3-4 has been a success Chester Jedinak kodjia and maybe adomha, when Bruce came in players weren't fit enough so not only were we playing catch up on the league but on our fitness levels aswell, we have 2 players that are willing to get stuck in leave a tackle in there that's hutton and Jedinak, Jedinak dosen't have the legs to go 2 games a week so that needs to be looked at, Bruce will get it right we he has proven this we very little money to spend at any club we all have fair idea of who he wants to ship on, he needs time and needs to bring in his own type of players, maybe this season was the real kick up the ass we needed we have no god given right the finish top of the league we have to work for it yeah we might have a big stadium and lots of history but we are not world beaters and some would say we are not a big club anymore at the moment we need to be getting the basics right and for me that's sticking with Bruce.

01 May 2017 16:18:01
Read things before you jump to conclusions, no one has said to chop Bruce. Just questioning whether his previous successes have come from playing this awful football and whether his tactics have suited the squad he has. We need some continuity and balance but the way we have been playing has been awful and doesn't point to us been anywhere near promotion next year.

01 May 2017 20:21:40
Spot on Chris!

01 May 2017 20:30:15
Chris I'm not saying anybody on this site is saying to sack Bruce yeah the style of play is brutal to watch which I'm sure will improve next season with the right players I think we panicked in the summer with some that we baught in but this talk about the style of play and others saying we are favourites to win the league next season annoys me as it stands we are 12th in the league with 3 going it means that there are 9 better teams than us at the moment not counting whoever drops down into the league, don't get me wrong I'm not doom and gloom yeah if we add a bit of quality o the squad and a bit of style we can win the league were not a 100 miles away.

01 May 2017 21:52:41
fair enough mate, i thought you was talking about the discussion on the Rumours page. i Agree sacking bruce isn't the right move but we have one of the best squads in the league, going forward we have more quality and options than most, the football shouldn't be this bad. i admire bruce for not hiding when we put in performances like against blackburn, the way lambert used to claim we were brilliant no matter what, however more performances like that and it makes you question what happens in training.