Aston Villa Banter Archive February 01 2017

01 Feb 2017 22:12:30
Steve Bruce needs to get results. i am sick of him saying sorry we are never up 4 games. we don't close down and quite frankly tacticially he is very poor. We are nearer the bottom as we are the top and you only heard 1 side of the mccmorack story.

01 Feb 2017 22:33:43
So much negativity . maybe you should listen to what the good dr is saying and just stand by the team

As for the other side of the story regarding McCormack, who actually gives a 💩?

Facts are McCormack is paid to do a job, he has a contract of employment and Steve Bruce is his boss!

If I argued with my boss I would be sacked and that's a fact

Defending anyone from not doing what they are paid to do is in my option absolutely crazy

01 Feb 2017 22:46:08
Agreed with everything but stop bleating on about McCormack, we heard facts and if there was another side him or his mouth piece missus would have put it out there, didn't turn up to training 3 times, used the excuse the gate was broke and Bruce caught him out, and if you need even more evidence of his character look at how Fulham pulled out of the deal to bring him back because his former team mates didn't want him. Oh and then there's being absolutely wasted the night before a game.

02 Feb 2017 05:47:55
It wasn't just the once he was blitzed before a game, he loves his sauce, the thing is, he was on it because he was bored (no excuse i know i'm not defending him) but at forest he'll do well, that you can count on, and when he does, it makes it a whole lot easier to flog him in the summer.

02 Feb 2017 18:44:53
I doubt he will do well but I hope you're right Classof82 (for the same reason you mention as well)

03 Feb 2017 08:00:23
Mendax - just a quick read of his interview, he feels he's a man 'wronged and persecuted' - i got a feeling he'll be on a mission to prove a point, sods law he'll have a scorcher of a season, but as long as they take points off the other teams and he's man of the match regularly, that's a double touch for us (optimistic i know! )

03 Feb 2017 13:00:26
He needs to lose about a stone first mate. Personally I think he'll crash and burn and we'll have to write it off as a bad investment

01 Feb 2017 17:46:15
Last night was a disaster we were just not good enough all over the park we looked nervous even players that have been with us previous to this window
I'll be the first to hold my hands up I was wrong about Jedinak it showed lastnight how much we need him a natural defenceI've midfielder I taught up to last night he was just holding the team back with his bad passing but boy was he missed
Reading most of the posts here everybody seems to be pointing the finger at hutton how can anybody on here say amavi had a better game
Amavi was run ragged always out of position if it was true Liverpool offered £25m for we should have took the money and ran
We played to deep all night every time we lost the ball we just dropped deeper kodjia was so isolated all night 4-5-1 dosen't work unless u have midfielders running past kodjia
I think we have the squad now with hogan in that we can play an old fashioned 4-4-2
But will it be Lansbury and hourahan in beside Jedinak because after last night Jedinak will be the first name on the team sheet against forrest
Last night should have been 3 pts and I would have accepted a draw against forrest on Saturday but not nothing less than a win will do us I think I think it's 18 games left we will need to win maybe 12-14 of them

01 Feb 2017 16:20:23
We all know the likely outcome when villa are live on TV?
Surely we must win sometime.
The forest game is really massive and another defeat and poor display will not be tolerated by all fans!

01 Feb 2017 18:02:09
First and foremost can I congratulate the Dr and SB for the great business they have done during this transfer window.
With the players we now have surely we can field a side and stick with it.
Chopping and changing should now stop, we need a settled side who know when and where their team mates are and what they are doing?
Not sure if you all agree but I think we should adopt a 4-4-2 formation for a period of say 10 games, and force other sides to change their set ups to accommodate us.
Might surprise a few leaving Amavi out but he can`t defend at, in fact neither can Hutton, they were both shocking last night, Amavi will be off in the summer anyway.
My team and bench would be:
Johnstone
Bree
Chester
Baker
Taylor
Jedinak
Adomah
Hourihane
Lansbury
Kodjia
Hogan
Bench: Bunn, Elphick Bacuna, Bjarnason, Grealish, Green, Davis,

01 Feb 2017 19:24:20
Nice looks team we have there Dave

It's about time we played like one, because last night was road kill

For me Kodjia has been better coming in from the left so I would go for the same team but a 4-2-3-1 formation

With jedinak and hourihane holding . And when possible hourihane pushing up with Lansbury in the middle

01 Feb 2017 20:02:12
Trouble with that Ken is we would again be putting constraints on players, Hourihane is a central attacking midfielder that’s his roll and he is good at it, yes he can defend as well.
We must start playing people in their correct positions IMO.

01 Feb 2017 20:10:22
Who's playing left mid in that formation mate? Good idea but you've got 3 centre mids?

01 Feb 2017 20:23:34
VillaDave, that is our strongest and most likely to team you've picked, enough on the bench to change things up if we're closing out a game, or chasing it, fair play.

UTV

01 Feb 2017 20:24:47
Kodjia on the left chris

01 Feb 2017 20:30:30
I don't disagree Dave tbh, but jedinak's legs have gone when playing as a proper central midfielder .

He needs to sit deeper, infront of the back four

Maybe hourihane or Lansbury floating between

Problem is both Lansbury and hourihane are CM with a more attacking nature .

Maybe have Lansbury dropping back to aide Jedinak as Lansbury looks like he has a good engine .

01 Feb 2017 20:40:44
Landsbury can and does prefer to play in a more advanced roll “his own words”, he has stated that he likes to roam so I feel Landsbury left mid and Adomah on right.
Its only my opinion chris, obviously Jedinak would be the guy to break things up.

01 Feb 2017 20:42:06
So more a 451 than a 442?

01 Feb 2017 20:53:13
Where does the 5 come from?

01 Feb 2017 22:55:48
Think these messages have got confused on the way somewhere, I thought you said Kodja on the left? Don't think Lansbury out there would work as you said we need to play players in their positions. I like the team definitely the best on paper, I'd go 4231 with it though:

Johnstone
Bree Chester Baker Taylor
Jedinak Lansbury
Adomah Hourihane Kodija
Hogan

Taylor until amavis form improves
Jedinak in his natural position winning headers breaking play
Lansbury with the engine to get forward and back and brilliant passing
Adomah and Kodija providing the width with both of them cutting inside when needs be to support hogan.

Hourihane with that left foot that earnt him the move in his natural position
And hogan up top with runners everywhere for him.

01 Feb 2017 07:10:05
Gutted we didn't go for zak clough, gone on loan to forest, watch him fly, and hopefully we can nab him in the summer, miles and miles better then greene, rhm and all other youth players 'coming' through, the boys' got class, nous and spacial awareness to boot, and he's a team player with bottle, i hope we nab him in a few months, he is that good, period.

01 Feb 2017 10:35:46
He's also 21 and been playing first team since 19, how old are Green and RHM? Oh yea 19 and 18, silly comparison, see where they are in 2 years.

01 Feb 2017 15:05:51
Fair point, to a point, greene and rhm will still be flattering to deceive i believe;they won't be regular first teamers, they'll end up being loaned out, what i should have said more clearly (my hands up as guilty as charged guvnor) is our youngsters (and their not the only ones for sure) have this sense of entitlement, which they haven't earned yet.

i saw zak clough come on as a sub (i think he might have been younger then 19 but don't quote me! ), and he had no fear, the occasion didn't phase him and he played for the team, no trying to do something so he got noticed, he just cracked on, it was seemless, a bit like when rooney started playing for the toffees, just for the love of playing.

yes i'm jibba jabbering but honestly, the only think he hasn't got in his locker is blistering pace, but he makes up for that with being able to read the game and make intelligent runs, he reminds me of peter beardsley, but, that's just my opinion, and though i hate to admit it, i think him and mcshortfarce could strike up a very good partnership.

01 Feb 2017 09:23:08
After having time to calm down and think a question was put to me by a friend I want to ask you the same question? Has Aston Villa, been a poor team for so long now they don't know how to be successful again? Its been about 8 years now since we even competed are we so used to losing it don't hurt or matter anymore?

01 Feb 2017 10:36:55
Sounds silly but there's something about us, whole new team and we still are so fragile and don't know how to win. Brought in so many leaders and winners yet as soon as they put on that villa shirt it's the same old.

01 Feb 2017 15:09:58
We've got no leader at the back, its as simple as that, tony adams was rubbish when he first started playing for the arsenal, even their own supporters would call him a donkey, but george graham persisted with him because was a natural born leader, and that, in a nutshell is what we haven't got-unfortunately.

01 Feb 2017 07:50:10
Had time to calm down and think about last nights performance.
Too many changes in midfield for starters. Kodjia too isolated up front. Hutton is not good enough. It's clear Baker and Chester need a holding midfielder (Jedinak) in front of them, I don't know why though? I am worried about the midfield. Even when we had the ball we didn't do anything eith it. Brucie! No more apologies please. We want a team to be proud of. Some guts and fight would be good. I hope the new guys confidence doesn't suffer too much from last nughts debacle. I am worried though.
Fair play to Brentford they were best team I've seen this season in Championship.
UTV

31 Jan 2017 23:34:45
It amazes me how since kick off days at start of season I've been saying we need a big commanding centerback plus an experience keeper and everyone slated me. Now all of a sudden bruce is useless because he didn't bring in a centerback and the keeper we got ain't good enough???

Very annoyed at the amount of players we have missed out on or good players i really wanted us to sign that have signed for other championship clubs or crap prem team.

I prey to god that we are all wrong and next game these boys click and we start looking like a decent club

01 Feb 2017 08:57:02
Hi

Totally agree. But off top of my head I can't think of a cb who would want to come. I thought Tommy would do the job but hasn't. And goalkeepers me myself I would of gone for krul

01 Feb 2017 09:05:40
Can't read anywhere anyone saying anything about Bruce for not signing a centre back? You just making that up for effect? What players then? We've only gone and signed the most inform midfielder in the league? One of the best strikers in the league? Sorry if you wanted Iniesta and Messi but maybe now you can join us in the real world,