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01 Aug 2019 10:11:52
Slightly worried despite signing luiz he hasn't got a work permit. Marvellous needs a permit aswel so both won't be availble 4 spurs. Chuffed to have Heaton.


1.) 01 Aug 2019 12:16:44
Marvelous won't require an appeal as he is a full international which means his will go through quickly.

{Ed001's Note - doesn't work like that, it is about points.}

2.) 01 Aug 2019 14:18:13
Yeah but being a full international gives enough to be almost guaranteed, cannot think of a case where that hasn't resulted in a permit being granted.

3.) 01 Aug 2019 14:25:22
nonsense. It depends on the country's ranking for starters. Then the wage they are paid. How much they cost and a number of other things. Marvelous is a Zimbabwe international, they are ranked outside the top 100 so that will not help him.

4.) 01 Aug 2019 15:45:22
So even tho these players have signed we might not be able to play them. that's scary man.

{Ed001's Note - I am sure the club have made sure they can reach the points allowance needed. It is not as simple as 'he is an international' so they might have had to do what Liverpool had to do with Grujic and pay him a higher wage to reach the points total needed. I have no doubt they will have someone who checks these things before a deal is reached, it should be the club secretary.}

5.) 01 Aug 2019 18:30:52
Nothing in the announcement about a work permit so I assume they sorted it before announcement. It is a ridiculously hard process, I won’t pretend to understand it, worth noting that Kalinic was denied one the year we went down after the decision going to a panel, one of the members was on the Sunderland board at the time🙈.

{Ed001's Note - they have made it more understandable. It is purely about accruing a certain number of points now.}

6.) 02 Aug 2019 03:10:27
As a Everton fan, we know how hard getting a work permit is, as we have had so many problems with Onyekuru even though he is a Nigerian international and that he has played in the champions league. This is a real problem that needs addressing.




07 Jul 2018 11:26:53
Why is everybody moaning for we still have a strong Championship side plus some very good youth players. Sell Grealish and we will be fine. Even if he wanted to spend huge amounts of money he can't FFP says you can only spend what you bring in. Terry and all the loans let us down last season at wembley.

they didn't want it enough. i am glad they're gone. We have good youth and a strong team, get behind them. Nothing wrong with the owner, he's told us clear we can't just keep spending and spending without bringing anything in. business don't work like that. get a grip and buy a T shirt.


1.) 07 Jul 2018 12:50:35
There is still a fine side there. What do we know:

1. Deadly Doug and Randy Lerner were excellent owners who ran the financial side of the club prudently. And those Villa fans who criticised Ellis but especially Lerner were utterly wrong.

2. The Dr does not want to sell - the loss of face issue will be very important to him. Important to understand that cultural dimension. It will explain a lot of what is going on.

3. No one has started due diligence, which is another clue that there is no imminent takeover underway. Not that the Dr looks like selling AVFC.

4. The Doc's plan to find a minority investor is flawed. There will be few investors willing to handover money without any sort of strategic control. Especially the sort of money that is needed.

5. Player sales will happen and the money received will flow into the club over 3-5 years, to allow the club to plan expenditure. Example: Grealish goes to Spurs for £25 million. That 25 million will be received by Villa over a 5 year period.

6. Bruce is likely to walk or at least, find an excuse to leave. He is a chequebook manager who likes spending money on transfers and wages. He will not be happy at having his budget cut. Have a look at what happened at Hull. I would expect Bruce to leave shortly before the start of the season, with some sort of "irreconciliable differences" relating to "broken promises".

7. Administratoin is not going to happen. AVFC, thanks to Ellis, has solid land ownership, which offers a contingent reserve.

8. AVFC has a sold fan base, which adds additional resiliance.

9. The club needs to stabilise its finances, through sound austerity measures. Once complete, the club will be able to benefit. This might take a few years to complete.

Not worried at all.

2.) 07 Jul 2018 13:22:08
Terry/ snoddy/ grabban all played well and showed heart for our club.
'Nothing wrong with owner'
You high, for someone who said he has 500mil in bank we can't pay our bills on time. Yes ffp stops us buying players doesn't stop us paying bills. And he himself has said he looking for investment to help run the club.
Owner is a joker and turned club into a joke.

3.) 07 Jul 2018 13:25:40
Really not worried Dave?

4.) 07 Jul 2018 13:41:53
Have not got a problem with Bruce staying,
It's just the idea of him with our young players,
He will ruin them with his style of hoof -ball,
He likes the older experienced type of players with no sell on value,
This is what worries me this season
There is one thing which could be in our favour.
The expectation level will not be so high with most of our better players all leaving,
But mid-table is where I see them finishing.

5.) 08 Jul 2018 10:20:58
Bruce wouldn't set out to ruin our future however I wouldn't trust him 100% with it. My biggest concern is playing 4/ 5 of them each week, youth is great but there's a reason Bruce didn't play them last season and that is because they will get bullied. Everyone says the championship is the hardest league in the world and it is. We need to get the balance right jack got kick to pieces last season and these boys will not be able to handle it if we play 4/ 5 kids each week we will be mid table at the very best but more likely fighting relegation.

6.) 08 Jul 2018 13:36:17
You say our young players will get bullied!
I recall Davis coming into the side and he was very aggressive and held up the ball really well,
Then Bruce left him out altogether and we never saw him again,
He was a link to our midfield and things looked better,
Bruce is not a young players type of manager.
That is my only gripe about him plus his negative tactics,
I do hope he has learned by this for this coming season.

7.) 08 Jul 2018 14:13:47
I said if we played 4 or 5 youngsters we would get bullied and I stand by that we've got to get the balance right playing youngsters is the way forward I agree but in moderation 1/ 2 at a time. Our youngsters are talented there's no doubt about it but there's so much pressure at our club at the moment and i think it would be unfair to put that pressure on there shoulder and IMO they wouldn't handle it.

8.) 08 Jul 2018 14:51:08
We won't know if the young players can handle the pressure or not if Bruce does not play them,
I think 4 or 5 would hack it if I'm honest,
Plus they would give us the thing we missed last season pace in forward area's,
We will see what Bruce does about it.

9.) 08 Jul 2018 17:02:23
How do we know how good or bad our young players are if the manager doesn't play them an I'm not talking about 1 or 2 games here or there, I'm talking a good 20 games, u play them and they will get better yes they will have there bad days that's expected because there young, but Bruce will not play them anyway he doesn't like play youngsters an doesn't like playing attacking football, he likes his slow paced dinasaur tacticts, but we are stuck with him now because of our chairmen an anyway would u trust him to appoint another good manager I don't think so he'd probably appointed Maradona as our manager, both Bruce an rdm been bad appointments in my eyes.



02 Jul 2018 15:14:29
Just on holiday talking to a fellow Villa fan and he hit the nail on the head, we have had far more owners in the last 10 years and the club lacks stability will always be there until we sort it out at the top. We have a great squad and a good club let's hope if we do get a new owner he is in it for the long term. We also need a manager who all the fans are behind I don't believe bruce is the man for us if a new owner does come in we need to get a young and hungry manager.


1.) 02 Jul 2018 19:01:57
Walkies, if you own a clock i bet its a Cuckoo one, one minute your backing brucey, then you want him keyholed, get a grip man!

2.) 03 Jul 2018 09:40:28
I have never backed Bruce and loads on here will tell you that. out of everybody who has gone from the club, Bruce should have been the 1st. he over spent, failed and plays awful football.



02 Jul 2018 02:06:12
I don't have any inside info or anything that could give anybody any hope but logically this mess won't last for long it appears our owner wasnt what he said he was and yet again these so called Billionares turn out to be awful at business and making business decisions. So the only advice I have for everybody is calm down and let's stick together it will sort itself out eventually southampton had bad owners and went down to league 1 now look back in the premier league. Nobody can predict the future but 1 things for sure we will never die so keep the lions flag flying high because Aston Villa will never die!




17 Jun 2018 11:06:30
Would anybody mind if Villa Parks Name was changed? In order to keep the club going?


1.) 17 Jun 2018 15:35:03
No, my only concern at the moment would be a we aren't an attractive proposition so I'd fear what brand would be interested!

2.) 17 Jun 2018 15:49:55
Sponsered by Recon.

3.) 17 Jun 2018 18:15:51
Does Tony have the money to do it? Should of already done it, how much was the training ground deal? Anyone know?

4.) 17 Jun 2018 23:13:44
How does Recon Aston Park sound.

5.) 18 Jun 2018 06:14:59
Would be ok because if helps the club to get out of this mess. It will always be Vila Park to everyone in the same way those other Victorian builds will be Anfield, Old Trafford etc!

6.) 19 Jun 2018 15:05:14
Because of the situation we have to look at options and a rename of Villa Park would be acceptable.
Should it happen then I would want to see it still named "***********Villa Park. "
However beggars can't be choosers and what a sponsor wanuts.




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21 Oct 2019 09:59:06
Great win 8 more wins to go and we will be in the premier again next season. I thought yes we didn't play well but the results the only thing that matters Jack was great Mcginn great again but needs to work on fitness looks like after 60 min he gets tired maybe we need to help him out a bit more. Next 2 games are a free hit all in all Dean Smith doing a great job!


1.) 21 Oct 2019 14:33:23
Jzck was top drawer but McGinn had one of his quieter days in my opinion.
We got a win we did not deserve but it's the result is all that matters.
We will play well some games and get nothing.
Swings and roundabouts come to mind.
We will get 1 point from liverpool I can feel it in my bones.
But we can't play so open against these clubs they will hammer us.
But you never know we might get something at city?
Strange results this season so why not us.

2.) 21 Oct 2019 20:58:29
Mings as been rubbish lately norwich arsenal brighton 3 goals he cost us his got to be better. I thought in the championship he was class but prem his been poor don't know how he played 4 england!

3.) 21 Oct 2019 21:40:00
Walkies is obviously bored and so he lights the touch paper again.



18 Oct 2019 15:42:32
Looks like there's a police warrent out for Dr. Tony his in some serious trouble! 30k reward if you tell the police where he is. Lucky escape.




17 Oct 2019 12:37:26
I see poor old Jota was playing with two hernias he had a pick from the hospital bed. Hope his back soon I think his been good so far apart from one or two poor games but if anybody had two hernias then that would slow anybody down. Its amazing really when his back I bet we see Jota full Potential. As for the weekend 3.2 Villa UTV.




11 Oct 2019 17:49:50
A year ago today we layed Sir Doug Ellis to rest what a great owner he was they don't make them like him anymore. I spoke to him many times he was such a kind and caring guy. UTV.


1.) 13 Oct 2019 07:14:45
Well said walkies, he was a giant for us and campaigned endlessly behind the scenes promoting football in our region-a colossus and a true football man, many a charity got sizeable donations from him which he never took the credit for, and woe betide anyone who slated not only us, but anything to do with the region or its people, I doff my cap to him with the upmost respect and admiration-God Bless A Great Man and a Gentleman.



09 Oct 2019 21:33:31
Hi fellow Villains just chatting today at work as rumours came about again about John Mcginn so I want to ask you guys what's John Mcginns value? If we had to sell which I never want to do by the way Was I far off in telling people at work 70 million. Have a long think don't forget his age energy and goalscoring ratio.


1.) 09 Oct 2019 22:01:49
It’s hard to get to a figure because he’s so unique, and how many out there can bring what he does to the team and are willing to come? I’d be happy with anything around 60, but I can’t see anyone going anymore than 50 at the minute.

2.) 09 Oct 2019 22:08:59
Walkies, you have to ask yourself if he played for Liverpool or Man Utd how much would they want for him, well the same applies to us.
Another season in the prem and with the same rate of improvement, I think he will be worth more than 70 million.
What we must do is keep his contract up to date.

3.) 10 Oct 2019 08:13:21
With today's transfer prices going as they are out of control.
I would start at 80million.
But I suppose the 50 mill is what most would offer.
He has a 5 year deal so we are in the driving seat.

4.) 10 Oct 2019 14:43:58
Bob, I love McGinn and hope he is at villa for the next five years, however the only person in the driving seat is John and his agent. We know he will have a buy out clause, unfortunately I can't see it being anywhere the figure that will lock him in to the Villa. I am sure he is an honourable guy and he seems to love Villa, however put yourself in his shoes, I would imagine he is on around £60000 a week with his new contract, if he sees out is contract this will earn him around £8 million after tax. So his agent gets offered a contract with a say Man U for £120000 a week with a five year contract, his earnings (again after tax ) would then be around £16 million over the length of the contract. John is a family man who will obviously look after his long term interests, I know for sure £8 million pounds would influence a lot of people's decision. Let's all hope not, however as I said it won't be an Aston Villa decision, it never is these days, money talks.

5.) 10 Oct 2019 17:14:19
Do not underestimate purslow in any transfer dealings he is no mug.
He will play hard ball with any suitors after any of our players.

6.) 10 Oct 2019 18:14:11
Hope you are right Bob.

7.) 11 Oct 2019 11:16:59
Scott You seem to make a lot of assumptions, how do we “know” he’s got a buy out clause? It’s not as common in England as it is abroad, under these owners/ board we haven’t seen any buy out clauses.

Also worth noting that money didn’t talk when spurs matched the 30m asking price for one of our players early on in the new owners tenure. When you’ve got their sort of money, I’d imagine an extra 20/ 30 million here or there doesn’t even bring in a second thought.

{Ed001's Note - buyout clauses are not legally binding in England.}

8.) 11 Oct 2019 14:12:55
Thanks Ed👍 Does that mean that they are totally redundant in England? I remember the story that came out about Suarez and Arsenal bidding £1 more than the buy out or something stupid.

{Ed001's Note - they are just useless pretty much. The Suarez one actually saw Count Dracula take Liverpool to court in order to try and force through a move. That is how we know for sure they are not legally binding as his attempt failed.}

9.) 11 Oct 2019 15:46:55
Weird one because from what’s put out in the press they are fairly common in Spain, just seems pointless though.

{Ed001's Note - they are obliged to put one in the contract in Spain and they are legally binding there. We have different laws here though.}




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23 Sep 2019 18:44:43
Class of 82 I do agree with you but we win together we lose together if we sack dean smith who do we get better?




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08 Aug 2019 14:12:59
We have a huge squad and before people say it we have 3 strikers 4 1 place so we are fine. This team we have has enough to stay up that's all I want this year then we build!




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01 Aug 2019 15:45:22
So even tho these players have signed we might not be able to play them. that's scary man.


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08 Jul 2018 19:39:33
I would play him, Bruce needs to get a grip he has no money and he's just writing players off. he's not even playing Hogan either, that's another 12 million, so that's 24 million not playing. If we had Dean Smith in charge i would be so more excited than this clown. so many people sacked but the biggest idiot stays.




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06 Jul 2018 23:47:54
What did you want to know mate i think the statements clear the clubs not up for sale but he would take investment if right for the club and we have over spent so we will have to let some players go and breed youth through. You can only spent what you generate so we got to work with FFP and there's no loans on the club so we are debt free. Beuce is the manager his not going anywhere. Its all simple you can't really ask for more all businesses have run its safe an make profit its a case of living to your means! We had our chance and blew it make john terry snograss johnstonw onouma tuzenbee graban wasnt good enough I won't be crying ovee them there not crying over us.





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21 Oct 2019 20:58:29
Mings as been rubbish lately norwich arsenal brighton 3 goals he cost us his got to be better. I thought in the championship he was class but prem his been poor don't know how he played 4 england!




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19 Oct 2019 09:10:13
Same team for me.




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13 Oct 2019 22:33:41
His our best player by a mile mate. The lads truely special!




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13 Oct 2019 18:25:37
Hope he stays with us because our team at the min is better than man utd. No doubt utd are a bigger club but there squad isn't good enough. UTV.




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10 Oct 2019 09:40:11
They all wanted him out before the norwich game lol fickle lot villa fans.