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23 Jan 2021 11:13:52
Dare say you've all seen it, but just in case you haven't-fee of 14m, rising to 15.5m agreed with Marseille for Sanson. Cracking business and welcome to the club 👍👏👏.


1.) 23 Jan 2021 12:55:22
He was named in their match day squad today but guess he won't feature now.
Good business.
Where does that leave Ramsey? Send him out on loan to Championship?
We've got 8 or 9 players ahead of him in now so can't see much point keeping him for rest of this season. Pity I rate the kid.

2.) 23 Jan 2021 13:11:20
Well played Lange and/ or whoever was behind the negotiations for this. We’ve seen what reckless spending can do first hand, not only under Xia but in the MON era, where by the owner had serious funds which were wasted with players on 70k a week on the bench. Thus contributing to the owners change of stance.

We are only just undoing the mess done by previous regimes with regards to transfer fees and wages, the safety of this club has to be paramount from here on our. So whomever managed to save us between 2 and 4 million, just by being patient and tactful, well done and thank you.

I understand fans want everything done two days ago so to speak, but we have to learn from the not so recent past, otherwise we are doomed to repeat history over and over.

3.) 23 Jan 2021 14:41:36
Leaves Ramsey in the same position, Sanson takes Hourihanes position. I expect Ramsey will start today.

4.) 23 Jan 2021 14:43:22
Sorry Johnny just read your comment fully, who are these nine players ahead of Ramsey?

McGinn, Dougie, Sanson, Barkley, after that it’s a toss up of Nakamba or Ramsey. When you consider there’s 3 of those starting, being 6th on the list at worst is perfect for his development.

5.) 23 Jan 2021 15:32:56
Great news, great price, looks like a great addition, what a great addition to our staff Lange is, coupled with shakephere our club done really well in terms of staff and of coarse players in, loving this season and the new lease of life within our club, well played to all involved, vtid 💪💪.

6.) 23 Jan 2021 15:56:20
Just reading an article about his transfer and it mentioned that we may have further dealings with Marseille in this window, looking through their squad there are a couple I wouldn’t mind having, I seen Leeds banter suggesting amavi is available, he would be a great addition instead of Taylor to compete with targett, see payet there also but if memory serves me right didn’t he have a bad attitude towards the end of his West Ham days, might just be usual news now BS but it wouldn’t surprise me as there is value to be had in France right now, AVB will be annoyed at the fee after embarrassing himself moaning about the first bid.

7.) 23 Jan 2021 16:23:10
Chris, we’ve got 9 midfield/ attacking midfield options. Luisa, McGinn, Nakamba, Barkley, Grealish, Trezeguet, Traore, El Ghazi plus Sanson.
Granted they can’t/ don’t all play in the same position but I doubt you would pick Ramsey ahead of any of them would you?
Ramsey isn’t quite in the same position. Hourihane would be behind Sanson if he’d stayed and you could then argue picking Ramsey ahead of Hourihane but maybe not ahead of Sanson. He won’t be competing for Luiz, Nakamba or McGinn position either. He certainly won’t get in ahead of the attacking options of Grealish, Barkley, Traore, ElGhazi and Trezeguet.
I like the kid but if he could get a decent loan move and game time should it be considered?
It was a question rather than a ‘must happen’.

8.) 23 Jan 2021 16:52:44
Ramsey is a centre mid mate, he’s in competition with Barkley, McGinn, Dougie, Sanson and Nakamba.

Out of them, on current usage he’s most likely fifth in that ranking. And considering 3 of them are going to start, he’s second choice sub behind Sanson, as he’s had significantly more play time recently than Nakamba. Best place for him to learn at the minute is here IMO, but I can see a decent Lon move to an attacking side where he is definitely going to start, would work well.

However trinity, I can promise you, El Ghazi, Trez or Traore won’t be playing centre mid for us anytime soon😂.

9.) 23 Jan 2021 17:12:27
Agree Chris, Ramsey usually comes on in place of Barkley or a winger, where of coarse jack moves out wide and Ramsey plays central, bookings are building up we will need him imo, like today he will probably start instead of maginn, if Barkley picks up another injury then we would be starting either sanson or Ramsey in his place leaving him and marvellous our only center midfield subs.

10.) 23 Jan 2021 17:18:17
Those 9 players you mention Trinity will be competing for 5 places in the team. That would leave 4 over then, let’s say Nakamba, Trezeguet, El Ghazi and Ramsey. There would definitely be room for all 4 of them to be on a bench of 9 along with say Heaton, Elmo, Hause, Guilbert and say Davis for example. Nakamba is the obvious DM cover, and so I think Ramsey would be more than capable of challenging Trez or El Ghazi for covering the 4 more attacking positions in the team. He has already shown that he is ready for the step up to the Premier League and Deano has said as much over the last few days.
I don’t think 4 players covering 5 positions is excessive and there are always going to be injuries, suspensions, fatigue and loss of form, so I think Ramsey will still get adequate opportunities despite the arrival of Sanson.
I apologize if it was Chris who you wanted to answer your post.

11.) 23 Jan 2021 18:31:01
Not at all Frenchy. I take the point.
As I say, I like the kid but how much game time is he going to get with us this year?
I honestly don’ think he’ll be on the bench ahead of any 2 of Trezeguet or Traore or ElGhazi or Barkley,
Keeping him is fine with me. As previously mentioned, it was a question?
Assume of the 5 positions we have Grealish, Barkley, El Ghazi, McGinn and Luiz starting that leaves 3 places on bench for cam/ am, Sanson, Trezeguet, Traore and Nakamba?
Assume all fit, where does Ramsey fit into that mix?

12.) 23 Jan 2021 18:40:24
Ramsey is comfortably ahead of Nakamba in the pecking order at the moment. Ideally you want two players for every position, with that we need 3 back up central midfielders, or 2 and one number 10. Ramsey can play both. Ramsey will see some game time tonight, won’t surprise me if he starts.

The wingers shouldn’t come into question when discussions Ramsey, whilst he probably can play out wide, I think he did for Doncaster on occasion, he is central for us, and Trez, El Ghazi and Traore are the designated wide men.

13.) 23 Jan 2021 18:57:24
I think Ramsey is good enough to compete against any of the options on the bench in that scenario. He’s a young player who’s improving all the time and could very easily go up in the pecking order.
Admittedly there would in fact be 10 players competing for 5 places but I think it will be on rare occasions that all of them will be available. I would be surprised if there are many match days where Ramsey doesn’t feature at the very least on the bench.
I wonder how Ramsey would feel about it, if given the choice to fight for a first team place or to be loaned out to Championship side, If it was me I’d want to stay.

14.) 23 Jan 2021 19:13:58
Well Chris, he’s on the bench tonight I’m pleased to say but behind Nakamba who starts in place of suspended McGinn. When you have Sanson coming in it suddenly looks a bit busy in there doesn’t it.

15.) 23 Jan 2021 19:22:52
I really can’t see your worries trinity, in our last 8 league games he’s started one and been sub in 7 and came off the bench in 6 of those 7. He has a lot more minutes than Nakamba this season, the addition of Sanson makes things more competitive but going off the facts it only makes Nakambas position more vulnerable, not Ramsey’s.

16.) 24 Jan 2021 01:06:04
Agreed Chris, I don't understand how people think Ramsey is competing with Trezeguet, Traore etc for a starting place. It's like some people's understanding of football is based purely on Darren Bent's punditry.

17.) 24 Jan 2021 11:21:53
Its not that at all DB, the fact of the matter is, we don`t all see things the same, therefore ideas differ.
Nowt wrong with that mate.

18.) 24 Jan 2021 12:31:48
Wait a minute Dave, I’ve just realized with initials like that, this could be the Guvnor himself, although I didn’t know he had a middle name. If that’s the case then, maybe we should all bow down to his superior knowledge 😁.

19.) 25 Jan 2021 12:32:40
Absolutely no problem with differing ideas Villadave, but my comment was specifically about the suggestion that Ramsey was competing with the likes of Trezeguet and Traore for a starting place. That's not an 'idea', that's just inaccurate.
Anyway, nowt wrong with that either way as you rightly say!

20.) 25 Jan 2021 17:07:59
Consider this scenario, we need an attacking midfielder and our main men are injured, suspended or whatever and Deano was therefore left with a choice of Trez, El Ghazi, Traoré all of who have had experience of playing in that position at some point, or playing Ramsey. Is that not an example of where Ramsey could be competing with those players for a place in the team.

21.) 26 Jan 2021 11:40:50
Hi Mark, I'm not quite sure what your example is trying to suggest there? When you say attacking midfielder, I'm assuming you mean either the no.10 role or possibly no.8, and aren't talking about playing on the wing?
I can say with some confidence that Smith isn't going to pick any of our wide players ahead of Ramsey in a central position. How many times has he picked any of the players you mention centrally when he's had the option of Ramsey? None as far as I remember, which to me would indicate Smith doesn't see them competing for the same position. Yes there could always be an unusual scenario which changes things - if all our keeper got injured then Hause and Engels would be competing for the goalkeeper position. My point is just than given a usual match day, Ramsey is not competing with the wingers mentioned previously which is where all this started. If you or others see it differently, fair play to you. I just don't understand how you would come to that conclusion on the evidence of this season.
Good conversation though and nice to be talking about this stuff rather than who should be sacked and the club being a shambles eh!

22.) 26 Jan 2021 12:22:00
I hope you’re not putting me in the category of posters described in your last paragraph DBS. Since we’ve had NSWE as owners, I’ve only ever been positive for the future of our club.
Regarding Ramsey, I accept that it’s highly unlikely we’ll ever see Ramsey playing out on the wings, but he is only 19, and therefore I think it’s far too early to say definitively where is best position will be. He is a very talented lad, and may well be capable of playing in more roles than we’ve seen up to now.

23.) 26 Jan 2021 12:47:14
Calm down Mark, I'm not putting you in any category and was just making a positive point, that its nice for us as Villa fans to have this sort of conversation as things are going well with the club rather than the usual debate about where it's all going wrong.
I haven't tried to make any point other than some of the comments on here suggesting that Ramsey will be competing with our wingers for a starting place seem strange.



17 Jan 2021 17:40:17
If photos doing the rounds are genuine, Morgan Sanson could be a done deal 🤞.


1.) 18 Jan 2021 18:30:46
Haven’t seen them mate, do tell?

2.) 18 Jan 2021 18:45:30
Apparently its been photoshopped Whack, his head, Barkley's body 😳.

3.) 18 Jan 2021 21:58:52
Kids are very quick with these things, saw one on Lingard in the changing room at Villa park the other day, looked almost perfect.

4.) 19 Jan 2021 00:28:15
Barkleys head on sansons body would be a decent transfer lol might spend less time out injured😂😂.



04 Oct 2020 09:19:05
Possible cheap option left back cover-Barry Douglas leeds. Liked him when he was at wolves and was gutted when he went to Leeds for about 5 million, think at the time we missed a trick. Met him in the post office in sedgley. Apparently he's available too, surely an upgrade on Taylor 🤔.


1.) 04 Oct 2020 10:15:32
Definite upgrade on Taylor, but he starts for Leeds so can't see how he’d be available.

2.) 04 Oct 2020 11:07:04
I don’t think Douglas has been in any of Leeds premiership squads to date.

3.) 04 Oct 2020 11:36:48
Read it somewhere Chris and Dallas started ahead of him yesterday.

4.) 04 Oct 2020 12:00:41
According to the Mail, Watford are in advanced talks to sign Douglas.

5.) 04 Oct 2020 13:09:34
Good shout Moose, Mark we could still intervene and make an offer surely.

6.) 04 Oct 2020 13:23:44
It would certainly be worth asking the question, surely we've got to be a better option than Watford. Apparently he was quite settled in sedgley and was a bit shocked to be sold.

7.) 04 Oct 2020 13:28:06
I hate to say this but Wolves are getting an absolute cracker in Ait Nouri from Angers. On loan for the season with the option to buy. Why couldn’t we have got him on the same terms?
I’ve been really pleased with our dealings in this window but considering how weak we are in the left back position, I do feel that a great opportunity has been missed here.

8.) 04 Oct 2020 13:44:08
Don’t ask me why, I was thinking of Dallas when it clearly says Douglas😂.

9.) 04 Oct 2020 15:45:48
Speaking of Dallas, Sue Ellen shot JR 😳😁.




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11 Apr 2021 12:26:30
Just a thought here, and its just that. We've been trying to pinpoint the reasons why our form has seemingly fell off a cliff. CV outbreak, physical and mental fatigue etc but could it just be that with the size of our coaching staff there is a case of too many cooks over egging the pudding? What i mean by that is that there could be too much info being thrown at the players and maybe even mixed messages being received causing a confusion of tactics etc. I know its the same setup as earlier in the season when we were pulling up trees but then the system was working and players were fresher, more confident and playing with freedom and a swagger. Players don't suddenly become bad players overnight and there could be extenuating circumstances we're not privy to. Like everyone else we're just trying to make sense of what's happening as we don't want to see what, by and large, has been a season that has probably exceeded what we expected pre kick off fade away. If we can finish strongly that form will be carried over to next season as could a negative end, so its important for momentum to be reestablished.


1.) 11 Apr 2021 13:54:33
That is a very interesting theory Moose, and as you say players don`t become bad players overnight.
This is where I have a problem mate, players don`t become excellent overnight either, which is what happened.
We are in a much better place than last season for sure, but I feel everyone played above their station to achieve it.
Reality is now raising it`s head, and I think players need reminding that no place is guaranteed in the side, and that hard work although needed, is no substitute for quality.
So to obtain that momentum again, I think things need freshening up again, I might be wrong Moose, who knows its all guess work mate.

2.) 11 Apr 2021 14:19:09
You might have something there Moose but I think CV was the main contributory factor. We just haven’t looked the same since the restart following that outbreak at the club.
Just before that I remember we were playing well, we looked good over the Christmas period, and we were really unlucky to lose at Man Utd, when they we’re going through a purple patch.
I don’t think it’s the only reason though. The obvious one is Jack’s injury, then there’s Barkley’s complete loss of form since coming back from the hamstring injury. Then there’s the lack of depth in terms of quality Dean can turn to when players get injured or lose form. I was looking at the players Man City had on the bench yesterday, any one of their midfield or attacking replacements would walk into our team.
We are also a young team, still with a lot to learn, and we lack that ‘old head’ factor. When things start going wrong, a team needs that experience to get through those periods.
It all looked great remember when Barkley first linked up with Jack. They looked like they were capable of tearing this league up. I was a bit hard on Ross yesterday, I would love to see him find the form he had with us when he first came to the club. Alas it looks unlikely, he appears completely devoid of confidence and desire and we will need to look elsewhere.
We have shown this season that we can play well, and compete with the better teams, which is something we completely failed to do last season. With 3 or 4 quality additions this Summer, I reiterate that I feel confident we can do that again and hopefully maintain that high level of form for the most part of next season.

3.) 11 Apr 2021 17:56:21
I think recruitment this summer is going to be absolutely key and creativity in midfield is absolutely essential if we are to progress and develop from primarily being seen as a one man team. The problem I have is who can fill that creative void? Personally I would rather we recruit players from within the premiership as it can take some of the foreign players time to settle, Sanson being a classic example. I had hoped that person was Barkley but that doesn’t seem likely, one player who in my opinion could fill the role is Dele Alli but if he is to move he will have much better options than coming to B6 so I am not sure what creative midfielders currently plying there trade in the premiership are likely to be available and more importantly willing to join us, therefore I think we have 2 options firstly look to recruit a creative central midfielder from abroad or secondly move Jack into a central role and recruit creative widemen where I think the options are greater for example Harrison, Saint Maximin, Sarr, Brooks, Lookman I would prefer taking this option rather than recruiting from abroad to be honest. On top of this I think a striker and defensive midfielder are also required but again the question is who? An interesting summer methinks.

4.) 11 Apr 2021 21:29:04
No questioning Ali’s talent John, but his attitude is sometimes questionable. If our management team could get him focused and motivated he might be the solution for the creativity in the final third.
I did have a long list of candidates John, but Ed 002 has eliminated just about all of them 🥺
So I’m just going to wait and see who Mr. Lange and his team come up with mate. Hopefully he’ll unearth a few hidden gems 🤞🏻🙏.

5.) 11 Apr 2021 22:01:11
I saw the list I think mark and hopefully Ed 02 won’t be right on all of them particularly Olise I hope, as he looks quality to me.



10 Apr 2021 11:17:02
Everywhere I'm reading this morning its Liverpool, Liverpool, Liverpool, like little ol Aston Villa are an insignificance to the media love in. Let's seriously f##k up this s##t show today! 💪🦁.


1.) 10 Apr 2021 17:54:08
This aged really well 🙈.



05 Apr 2021 18:44:52
To lighten the mood somewhat I've just read something on Vital Villa that made me chuckle and thought I'd share the love. Basically its saying that those looking for improvement over the season will they be expecting us to beat Liverpool 8-2 on Saturday? 😁.


1.) 05 Apr 2021 19:05:37
Brilliant Moose, now that really would be a turn up for the books mate.
I wouldn`t say no though.

2.) 05 Apr 2021 19:18:17
We can dream Dave 😁🤞.



04 Apr 2021 18:30:21
Did I really just witness that? 4-4-f#####g 2 😳
Hold the front page, hold the back page, stop writing the obituaries and kicking the cat, we won without Grealish and scored 3 goals!
In other stunning news the Pope is Catholic and bears really do s##t in the woods 😀.


1.) 04 Apr 2021 19:11:13
Love it Moose 🤣😃🤣.

2.) 04 Apr 2021 19:25:06
Cheers Dave 🍻 👍😁.

3.) 04 Apr 2021 21:04:20
Spot on Moose, just a thought. we play 4-3-3 with 2 wingers but not wingers who cross the ball but cut in on their preferred foot and shoot, Ollie is good in the air, Davis and Wesley too, let’s get some crosses in and see what happens, 4-4-2 all the way for me, even if 1 of the 2 is Jack as a No10 depending on the opposition


4.) 05 Apr 2021 08:10:07
Allyp I've mentioned before about playing the wingers on their natural side for a change to actually get in 1st time crosses which turns defenders around and doesn't give them time to set up. It worked a treat yesterday in the last 25 minutes, tho admittedly, Traore did cross with his weaker foot.
Hopefully after yesterday's result and tactical switch it may now mean that we have the ability to actually change things up mid game and keep the opposition guessing. With our points haul and safety from any threat of relegation now, in competitive games, its the ideal chance to mix things up and try out new formations.



04 Apr 2021 17:37:14
Despite not seeing him play as much as the 1st team squad, could we hand on heart say that the likes of Philogene-bidace would not offer as much if not more than our current wingers? Asking for a friend 😁.





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09 Apr 2021 10:00:31
Er, yeah, you know like, er, la - roughly translated as - not for me Jeff. Totally fabricated BS, more chance of my dream of signing Coutinho 😁.




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09 Apr 2021 08:41:48
Biggles you're far too optimistic mate 👍🤣🤣🤣🤣 love your thinking and positivity 😁 a refreshing change from the Dad's Army "we're doomed, doomed i tell ya "🤣🤣🤣🤣.




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23 Feb 2021 20:15:25
2 questions about this rumour
1 can he do the skirting boards in the players lounge? (sorry wrong kind of sander😳)
2 is he any relation to the bloke who sang "Lady in red"?
Seriously though, decent player and physical presence 👍.




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07 Feb 2021 09:31:41
He'll only have 👀 for Mason 💖👬🥰.




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07 Feb 2021 08:42:26
Sign his best mate to keep your best player happy, makes sense but not for the right reasons.





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17 Apr 2021 09:09:38
As far as the u23s league position goes, most are 17,18 19 years of age, eligible for the u18s hence the majority playing in the youth Cup. They're gaining experience against more physically developed players, which could prove invaluable in the long term. What a few on here are trying to say is that, before decent loans can be arranged for next season, a reward for their development could be in the way of a place on the bench for the 1st team-valuable experience and if circumstances dictate within a game a possible 10 minute cameo, hopefully whetting their appetite to keep improving and pushing the boundaries with a clear indication that hard work will pay off.
We have 8 games to go, still with a mathematical possibility of Europe, but would it do any harm to have at least 1 on the bench for each remaining game ie Hayden instead of Elmo or Taylor, who will most likely not be here next season? It's an opportunity to try something different with no relegation pressure and the feeling of walking out onto the Villa Park pitch could be a real confidence boost.
Personally, for myself anyway, one of the proudest moments of me supporting Villa was watching those kids give liverpool a scare in the cup and I watched the entire game with a smile on my face something that doesn't often happen with the 1st team 😁👍.




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16 Apr 2021 21:58:26
How many "promising " young players have we held back, be it loans,1st team exposure etc over the years, to only end up letting them go when they've not done anything of significance by the time they reach their early 20s? Its time for a completely different tack now as to date its not really worked out. The owners realise this, hence the academy revamp. Some may end up being discarded anyway but hopefully after they've had a chance to show, at a competitive level, whether they can make the grade or not. For too long we've held players back from getting a proper taste of "mens" football to keep them in the old u21s where they just stagnate or regress. 10 minutes here and there, for the outstanding ones, in the 1st team isn't going to ruin them and may just surprise a few people and make any promising talent within the area think " hey, if I go to the villa, I've got a real shot of eventually getting in the 1st team ". That sort of situation is priceless for the long term future of the team. Remember fortune favours the brave.




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16 Apr 2021 08:05:26
Raj, you can join in with the thread conversation you know? We're not some Masonic Society, we're really quite friendly, for the most part anyway 😉😁👍.




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15 Apr 2021 17:39:29
If you're old enough, you're good enough- just ask Ron Benson and Trevor Hedges 🤣🤣🤣🤣.




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15 Apr 2021 16:02:39
Yup, that's what I'm on about too 👍.