Aston Villa Rumours Archive December 01 2013 to December 31 2013

31 Dec 2013 10:41:31
Rumours going round that we are interested in 4 experienced players and Kevin de Bruyne on loan. Hopefully this is true because experience is what we have been missing lately. And the attacking flair of de Bruyne could be vital to our season.
UTV

De Bruyne is out of the question, I hear he's the player Lambert has spoken to and cancelled the talks with due to his wage demands.

29 Dec 2013 21:03:25
3 players In in January. Rodwell as I've said many times as he is a long term Pl target. Dembelle off spurs is the other player looked at if Rodwell don't happen. Other 2 targets are jelovic off Everton and joey Barton. Yes you herd me joey Barton. I know these are not lambert normal type and are old players but belive me these are our targets.

Well they're not as ridiculous as usual, but none the less I'm doubtful.

Rodwell is young so maybe, but no for the rest

VTID

Jelavic and Barton, no chance!

Love to see Rodwell, but Jelavic? The guy can't score. no thanks

You swore blind that rodwell was coming last window anyone else remember that?! you are a liar mate plain and simple

Barton I know is one of the most hated men in football and is in no way an ideal person i'd want playing for us but the irony is he's exactly the type of player we need, strong, aggressive, doesn't back down from any challenge and can actually play football, he'd certainly give these players a kick up the ass!

Of course he brings so much baggage with him but I have to say I'd not be disappointed to see him turn up at villa.

>Scg87

You cannot be serious! Joey Barton?
I posted the other day that we need a shin kicker but Joey, do me a favour, we could be playing with 10 men for most of the season.
Kingvilla you live in a fairy tale land.

You know why he'll sign barton so everyone will be screaming at him not our pathetic under performing manager

Seems a lot of people believe that Barton could be the man for us regardless of his history.
Worst disciplinary record (8 times sent off)
Admitted trying to get a player sent off a couple of years ago.
Yes just the man we want at VP to guide our inexperienced team.
What would he offer the team?
I dread to think.

For all his faults he can play football unlike our midfield I include delph who is back to his normal playing, Yes I would sign him

Oh my god.
Barton at Villa Park not as a visitor?
The thought terrifies me.
Villa are already bottom of the fair play league, can we get any lower?

Villa are not bottom of the EPL FPL! what you talking about! we're a lot higher than most these days my friend, including Villa's debt now stands at less than £45m.

29 Dec 2013 12:35:56
Circulating via Italian media is talk of a straight swap Benteke for El Shaarawy, however Benteke not keen on the move, Would rather the £20mil added to a reported Jan kitty of £15mil, some might say as long as Hoddle iis the man to spend £35mill, I personally would like to see PL given a chance to spend it, Your thoughts? Who to buy & who to spend it

{Ed003's Note - He's out injured for about 3 months.}

My thought are you clearly hit the sherry extra hard this chrimbo

Would like to see Hoddle as manager villajk

Personally would not like to see pl waste any more money, but I think he will be given one last chance in January to turn it round.

El shaaraway at villa. Your living in dream land m8, he is a good player and will never be anywhere near villa park

And I would like to see hoddle I think he could get us playing some good stuff and not long ball

El shaarawy at villa would be like messi at Liverpool, a dream we should be aiming more at the likes of depay and or Wijnaldum. Personally the best signings would be getting young and downing back to add creativity which we have been lacking with lescott to shore up the defense

Young and Downing?!. No chance and no way. By the way, we got £37M for those two. where's that gone? Other than Benteke and Westwood in season 1 (not so much now), that money was squandered.

Young and downing are better than tonev and bacuna any day of the week

Young an Downing would make us 100 times better!
Can't see them coming back to us tho.

So many bitter jealous fans about.
Probably the same fans who called Barry a traitor an "a has been" in the Summer.

>Scg87

I'd like Lescott, Rodwell and Wijnaldum signed, I think these are realistic and wouldn't be to expensive.

I find it hard to believe A Young would come back and even harder to believe Milner would return considering how good he's been for City over the last 5 games.

>Scg87

It's nice to see someone who knows what they're on a about scg87 rodwell would be class young and fits lamberts philosophy, lescott to stop the leaky defense and Wijnaldum to add more creativity,
young and Robbie Keane would also be good ideas to add experience

Cr10

Rodwell has been a long term Pl target and will be again in Jan. I have said this many times to be laughed at on here. Watch this space. King villa shall have his day.!!!

I've said it before, if Lambert sells Benteke, Hutton, Delfouneso, N'Zogbia, Delph and Stevens, then he should buy Finnbogason, McGeady, Popov and Jansson. I just don't see Lescott coming to the club, he will be expensive.

Why will Lescott be expensive?

He's in his last 6 months of his contract so maybe £2mil an city will surely take that considering they obviously bot want him.

An althought he's probably on 90k a week if Lescott still has hopes of going to the WC then he needs first team footy an no club in the word would pay his current wages so I don't think it's out the question he'd take a pay cut but if he don't wanna take a pay cut then he's obviously lost his hunger to play football so we simply move on to the next player

We don't know unless we try.


>Scg87

I don't get it.
Why would you want to sell Delph?


>Scg87

Then Lambert should try to sell Benteke, he obviously wants to go to Arsenal. And also Hutton, Delfouneso, N'Zogbia and Stevens should be sold. I just thought that Delph, receiving unnecessary bookings, haven't improved much lately, that is why I suggested that he should be sold, but you have convinced me to keep him. I also agree that Lescott should come to the club, if he is not expensive. I think that the other players should be D'Ambrosio and Pocognoli, McGeady or Traoré, Popov or Wijnaldum and Defoe or Finnbogason or Vossen.

Which traore?

26 Dec 2013 23:15:34
Hey eds is there any update on the Benteke situation, is he leaving in January? Personally villa need to sign a whole new team or sack PL, today is an embarrassment

{Ed002's Note - I doubt if he will be leaving in January.}

I also doubt he'll be leaving in Jan, in fact I think he along with Belgium will hope his back fit Confident & Hungry for goals to build on a successful season for the world cup, he'll be hoping as most of us fans do, that Paul gets a creative CAM to feed his hungry form.

Some Steel in the middle to enforce possession is a must, if both are obtained the rest will flourish, A nucleus of something special does exist within this demoralised team some may not make the standard bur others with the help of these key additions.

Helenius will play a part along with hopefully those youths within.

But who do you think these players should be. Wijnaldum?

Benteke will be back for the New Year fixture of Sunderland. Helenius I do hope plays against Swansea, Kozak, Andi & Gabby just doesn't work!

Will he cost us 8 mil and will he follow suit? If
he does then wow! I do not think we are that far from a cracking squad of youth flexibility and killing instinct! Yh I am drunk? Lol

On Helenius, can anyone figure out why he's not getting a chance?
He's looked good whenever I saw him early on in the season, now there's talk he'll be loaned out in jan.

Can't understand how Bowery gets ahead of him.


>Scg87

Looking at villa today I would say unless we have 30m to spend in January we will be a championship club next year, there is no desire, experience is what we need IN LAMBERT I DO NOT TRUST

If Benteke gets back on form, we'll look better but we'll still need a creative midfielder. In Lambert we MUST trust!

Come to think about it, how does Bowery get ahead of Drennan

I find it strange how Lambert loves this idea of young an hungry player but he refuses to give the youngsters already at the club game time, I'm thinking of Drennan, Grealish, Carruthers and even Gardner who IMO should be starting with Delph an Westwood now.

I wonder what them players are thinking when PL talks of young an hungry players but doesn't bother looking to them.


>Scg87

Not to mention Robinson too, Scg87. Lambert said he wasn't ready, so how is Bowery ready!?

26 percent possession yesterday tells you everything you need to know about how aston villa play their football, terribly! best thing about the game yesterday was when the entire crowd cheered at weimann getting subbed off! finally we are all seeing just how amateur a player he really is! not that any of the others are much better, I mean kozak, for instance, 6"5 and barely wins an aerial duel, slow as a bloody snail and weak as a paper bag, he is on the floor more often than his feet, he reminds of an even worse heskey! whoever says we don't need vlaar is either deluded or doesn't understand football in general, we are so weak in the center of defence with baker and clark but I would choose baker over clark to partner vlaar as our best defender (okore) is crocked til god knows when!

I agree, plus these are better prospects. Gardner should be playing he is our best prospect, I no he's be out injured but he has a footballers brain you don't lose that sick of the cheap buys I would not trust PL to spend big, £7m Kozack wasted no touch, villajk

Gardner should go into the nearest skip to bodymoor and give the physio dept a rest, total waste of time baker is another sicknote who needs the trainer when the wind blows

24 Dec 2013 22:54:08
New rumour going round that Atlectico Madrid want Benteke as a replacement for Diego Costa in the January transfer window. We should be willing to accept £17.5 million or more in Bentekes current form

Bentekes agent has rubbished this claim today but with doubts about how serious his mysterious injuries might be I don't think Atletico or any other club will risk big money on him in January. Currently I would say he is just about unsellable with most clubs suspecting he could be a one season wonder. We will keep him this season and clubs will look to see how he performs next season before considering any bid especially at the sort of fee we would want.
Clarrie Blue

Would anyone actually care if benteke, or anyone else for that matter, left VP? in my opinion, they can all leave and go to league 1 which would befit their qualities!

I don't think any of these players need to leave, they will get better.
The problem is they are not yet good enough to play week in week out, we need 3 players who have experience and the strength of character to stand up to anything, younger players even the good ones find that hard to do but with experience along side them they will grow.

I'm just shocked Lambert didn't see this happening, he was exactly the type of player we need in the team so I thought he'd know what it takes to build a team.
Hopefully he sees the reality of things now.

>Scg87

15 Dec 2013 11:26:43
Might just be that time of year, however could there be any truth to news Paul Lambert enquired about Omar Abdulrahman price said to be £4=6mill, I've just seen some clips and he looks amazing young/extremley skillfull EPL @VP could be the perfect platform for his growth. Ed please enlighten?

VSon

{Ed007's Note - I'm not aware of any interest from AV in Abdulrahman.}

I should think ANYONE could improve that side today. Absolutely shocking. Who thought that Luna was worth buying? A complete disaster and responsible for two goals.
Only Albrighton who had a good game and Agbonlahor who ran himself into the ground were any good. The rest were a total waste of space. Anyone who is willing to offer 50p and a belgian bun for Benteke can have him now and I'll drive him there.
Clarrie Blue.

Never mind, the Baggies need a manager now, he might just go and take Benteke with him

Lambert will be sacked tonight

Get real lamberts job is safe he's building something here its not his fault the likes of benteke was a one season wonder

He is building nothing, been here 18 months which is long enough to have made definite improvements that haven't been made, don't think he will be sacked tonight but he is on very thin ice after a year and a half of ridiculous signings and empty promises. villa park is the easiest place in the league to get a result, totally embarrassing and can't see it changing anytime soon as we do not have a good enough team from front to back. don't know what else to say am just hugely deflated by everything going on at villa at the moment

Why all the negativity? Yes we lost to Manchester United but lambert out? really? what's the point of sacking a manager that is trying to change our club for the good? 18 months isn't going to be enough to fully transform us! The man needs time, like most managers in the league. I thought the score today didn't fully reflect the game as in parts I thought we played some great football, especially in the 2nd half, and Albrighton looked back to his best. I think if anyone needs to go it's benteke, to many times today the team created and Benteke didn't put the effort in to convert. With him gone in January, and a new striker and cam bought with the money we will be easily top 10 without a question.

We lost to a poor united team, Albrighton best player for villa he was on his way a month a go, the cheap imports are not up to it, Westwood poor, yes Lambert out sick of young and hungry, give me good footballers someone with class, there's nothing to build on. villajk

Mate, we are in no better a position than when he took over. He is building nothing. He's a bluffer
Lambert's main quality seems to have been that he isn't Mcleish

I don't think I would suggest that Lambert be sacked as I'm sure he is doing his best with what he has and who else is there out there to replace him?
I just wish he would devise a method for playing at home other than the counter attack we use in away games and the defence still looks like a disaster waiting to happen. It's time that was sorted out once and for all.
Clarrie Blue.

There are plenty of managers out there who'd be willing to take the reigns here if lambert was sacked. it would be the challenge of a lifetime getting villa back to where they should be (in top 6, competing in the cups and being far and away the best team in the 2nd city)
our squad of players right now is the worst selection we have had in as long as I can remember, we had luna baker clark and lowton at the back yesterday none of whom can actually defend which is ridiculous when you think 5 years ago we were solid with warnock, laursen, curtis davies and luke young, what a difference! our midfield is the worst in the league without doubt and is the main reason we are so terrible right now, as a pack they are non-cohesive and lack any kind of creativity and physicality this is the most frustrating thing when you watch us game after game. as for our "attack", well its non-existent isn't it?gabby may run all day long and throw his weight around but does he contribute anything at all in an attacking sense? how can he when his dribbling, passing, shooting, and movement is so poor. next, weimann, don't get me started! how did this boy ever pass a trial?he isn't a footballer more a headless chicken and the biggest waste of space in the entire squad along with KEA who'd be better off in a pub team! and as for benteke, we will be very very lucky to get 20 million for him now, we should have sold in the summer when the demand was massive. he should take only a small part of the blame for the teams demise though as he cannot do it on his own upfront and with our midfield, he will never get the service. 1 plus point, albrighton has looked good in his last couple of appearances and could be the man to inject a little but much needed creativity. he is a great crosser of the ball too so we need to get the ball wide for him to sling balls in the area at benteke.

The fact that about 10,000 villa fans walked out of VP with a quarter of the match remaining tells you all you need to know about the seriousness of the situation here at the moment and despite being a bit better off points and position wise this season than last, the feeling is gloomier.

You can talk methods, strategies, game-plans and tactics all day long, the sad reality is; if you don't have good enough players you will not succeed at this level. at least 6 of our starting 11 wouldn't get into any other premier league team. FACTS.

PL is doing what he has been told. Get the wage bill down, buy some cheap players from Europe and try to form a team that can be respectable in the prem.
Lerner is the problem. He will not allow PL more than a few quid at a time. Was Benteke a fluke buy? I like to think that PL knew what he was doing.
Many of his other buys are not up to the grade but you get what you pay for and the lot would not cover £20m. If Lerner won't go then Lambert is shafted.
LERNER OUT.

I am a fan of Lambert and support what he is doing. However that support will start to evaporate as time goes by and we still have not sorted out our defensive issues.

For the last 18 months we have been awful at the back. I really like Okore and he looked the part before his injury but Lambert has to take some blame for not buying another CB. Nathan Baker is not a premier league defender and never will be. His distribution is poor, his reading of the game is non existent and he lacks any pace to get him out of trouble. He should not be playing for our great club. i'm not too convined by Vlaar or Clark either and surely Lambert can see that these players are not good enough?! To spend 10m on both Helenius and Kozak when we already had Benteke/Weimann/Gabby/Bowery to play that solitary attacking role baffles me when he could have brought one of those and signed a further defender. There are players who are in the Championship and do nothing but defend who would improve our defence. Each goal against United was a result of poor defending, add into that Fulham/Everton/Albion/Spurs/Liverpool/Newcastle and this is all too common!

Lambert has to take some responsibility for picking these players as there has been money available to purchase a CB whose first thought is to clear his lines and not dally on the ball

I'm defo frustrated with Lamberts tactics, player selection and transfer policy, we all knew at the start of the season we needed experience to help the younger players push us forward, we have to many players who are not yet good enough to start week in week out.
I'm still pissed off that Lambert turned down the chance to get Barry back.

In saying all that, I do think PL should be given until the end of the season at least.
Whoever says 18 months is enough to rebuild a club obviously has already forgotten about Sir Alex.

Right now we have all our key players out of form an playing nothing short of sh**.
Surely we can only improve, we're playing at 70% an still close to top 10, even if we improve 10% then I see us finishing 10th-12th.

The next four games will be key to Lambert keeping the support of the fans so I hope he's proactive in making sure we are looking to win games


>Scg87

I firmly believe that even with our current squad we should never finish lower than eighth in the Premier League.
We are not good enough to finish above Manchester Utd, Manchester City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham and Everton but no other side should finish above us. If they do, we have failed.
Clarrie Blue

Lerner should leave Lambert should stay

As much as I agree with most of the comments above, I believe we are still a work in progress and have improved on last year even if it's only a slight improvement. Lambert is a good manager and I think he will get it right, but for him to get it right he needs players that will give 100% on the pitch as already stated they are probably at 70% at best. However this 70% still looks better than the 40% given last season. Benteke to go! OK he's on a bad run of form every striker has been through it at some stage. I wouldn't be so quick to write him off. Ultimately we have a team that defends like I did when I was 9yr old and agree we should not have spent 7m on Kozak and spent that on a half decent defender. Hopefully Lerner/lambert will agree with the fans and buy a proven defender not a young up and coming star who will need 3 seasons to come good. Happy to see albrighton back playing for the Villa, always liked him as a player just need a few goals and assists from him to prove to the fans he's good enough. KEA should not be playing, but i'm starting to think differently about Delph could do with a few more 20 yarders. What ever happens i'm villa till I die and will back the boys 100%. Smithy82

Lambert DID buy a defender and a VERY good one in Jores Okore - its not his fault he got injured! Lerner has to open his wallet or go! Lambert has signed some good players: Benteke, Okore, Vlaar, Westwood, Lowton, Guzan (got him to come back!), Bacuna -
Our problem is we don't have the quality to play the ball around at home, so we just go on the counter attack, when the away team's aren't in any pressure to push us, I just hope Lambert gets another season and some money and he WILL prove his doubters wrong. (yes I admit some of his tactics are a bit strange, but he can only work with what he has available!)

My rother who is a p/r at the british embassy tells me that rapid Vienna are lining up a move to take weiman back to austri aand the club he supported as a child-discuss?

Lambert brought one defender knowing full well that if he got injured we would be left with either Baker or Clark alongside Vlaar.

If by doing so he believed that Baker or Clark were good enough to cover (for a whole season) then his judgement really needs to be questioned.

He has made some positive signings and we have at times this season been brilliant going forward and the consistency will come with time, but it doesn't matter how good you are going forward if you can't defend you will lose too many games.

Im not saying get rid of him now, but maybe that he needs some help sorting the defence as he and his current backroom team clearly aren't doing the job. You can say 'it's not him making the mistakes it's the players' but it is him picking these players.

He has had more then enough money to improve the centre of defence (ahead of other areas he has strengthened). Okore is a great start but a one man wrecking machine at the back he is not (yet) but with him injured we are so so weak

Honestly his buys are poor only one would make the bench in any prem team and he's off form, I believe give youth a chance but our own, not cheap imports, and 24yr old are not young, PL is not good enough for villa I would go with Glen Hoddle said this before, the best manager England. had except for those silly remarks

Yes the last two games were poor, but we are in a much beter place without those like Bent, Ireland, Hutton, Dunne, Given. I want Villa to be pushing for European slots but that is not going to be this year. Also lay off Benteke. He is coming off a poor run, he kept us up last year. Don't forget that.

Hoddle the best England manager ever?
You forgot about Sir Alf?
You forget Sir Bobby?
You forget Venables all achieved more with England.

And you obviously forgot the club jobs Hoddle has failed in.

I like Hoddle he talks a great game but his record doesn't back it up

>Scg87

Sorry agree about Sir Alf, what did the other 2 win?no disrespect to Sir Bobby.

Achieving something doesn't always mean winning trophies.
When I eluded to Robson an Venables achieving more than Hoddle I was referring to taking us further in WCs and having us playing some good football.

My point is, what exactly has Hoddle done since leaving England that would suggest he's a good manager, as far as I'm concerned he's failed in his last 3 jobs. Steve McLaren has achieved far more than Hoddle if you wanna talk about trophies lol


>Scg87

Talking about playing good football everyone in the game rates Glen Hoddle of course us Villa fans have never seen that have we. when you mention S. McLaren I know you no nothing lol

I think our midfield is worse than our defence. i'd like to see lambert play chris herd just behind the midfield to add some steel and determination as at the minute its embarrassing watching teams stroll through. KEA should be nowhere near villa park, he's useless. Would like to see delph play in a more attacking role as I feel he's our most creative player and also wouldn't mind bacuna playing higher up the pitch either.

Simeon Slavchev is apparently the midfielder Lambert wants to bring in, would cost £2m, he's scored 10 goals in 17 matches this season and can play as a defensive, centre or attacking midfielder role.

I would love to see this happen but there does seem to be rivals for his signature.

12 Dec 2013 17:01:45
I expect villa to go back in for Gregory sertic this window.

Finch

Sertic has scored a total of 4 goals in 101 games overall.
We already have several midfielders who can do that and we don't want another one thanks very much.
Clarrie Blue.

I expect villa to bring in the kids that where loaned out maybe sign 1 person and asses the squad for the summer ahead to make a push slightly more u the table come 2014 - 2015

I think Sertic has 5 goals in 15 games for Bordeaux and from what I've seen of him this season he looks like a creative AM which could be very useful right now.

In saying that I don't think we'll be going for him.


>Scg87

12 Dec 2013 12:50:33
Lambert is very interested in red bull salzbergs valon berisha