Aston Villa Banter Archive August 01 2012 to August 31 2012

31 Aug 2012 19:43:42
guzan given

lichaj/lowton

vlaar/clarke/baker/dunne

bennett/stevens

herd/elmadhi/westwood

albrighton/agbonlahor/cratthuers

ireland/gardner/holman

nzogbia/delph/bannan

bent/bekentte/weimann/delfonso

in lambert we trust ???

agree=yes disagree=no

Still looks a very young and inexperienced to me im not convinced.

The fonz has gone on loan and its Bowery in his place

I feel it will be a season of ups and downs but i reckon it will be a 10-14 finish

And genuinelly excited by Benteke coming in and hopefully gabby playing on the wing

I'll take 10th as long as we finish above the Baggies

31 Aug 2012 17:13:23
we're signing lower league crap english players championship players at best!... getting sick of it! go for some experienced footballers like Huddlestone, Owen

We are building a club and a fortress either join us or support walsall lol

Look at the facts. We dont like what we see, but when you want a Rolls Royce and you only have the money for a Mondeo, what do you do? I am unsure about Lambert and I bet he is unsure about the ugly sisters now that he is working with them. He was probably sold on the story that we are prepared to pay up for success, wasn't told that he had little or no investment. Villa are bigger than Norwich and Lambert wants to move himself up the managerial ladder, good in first year in prem. year two is always more difficult especially with the restraints put on him regard spending.

31 Aug 2012 10:49:36
Is Clint Dempsey actually happeninh? This would be an outstanding signing

31 Aug 2012 09:29:44
Aston villa line up after hopefully a day of lots of ins and two outs(warnock and hutton)

Given
Lowton,Vlaar,Dunne/Clark,Bennet
Nzogbia,El Ahmadi,Agbonlahor/Albrighton
Ireland,Benayoun
Bent,Bentete

With this side there will surely be no chance of relegation and a definite mid table finish.
Hopefully deals for stephens and another defender go through!

Don't think you're aloud 12 players on the pitch!

30 Aug 2012 12:04:12
Not a rumour! But I think we need 2/3 new faces, a striker and 2 defenders, I would love to see Benteke arrive as he looks an awesome talent plus would like to see a new centre half such as Dawson or Ogbonna and a right back as I'm not entirely convinced by Lowton (too inexperienced), a possibility could be Matthews from Celtic. Finally a cheeky punt for Ince or Phillips from Blackpool would provide the much needed chances for Bent and Benteke (hopefully).

You obviously haven't watched Lowton play for Villa, excellent first touch, gets up and down the pitch and has a fair turn of speed. This guy will turn out to be a good signing and he is certainly head and shoulders above a certain Scottish international. Benteke would be a good addition even though he is inexperienced at this level as are Ince & Phillips

30 Aug 2012 08:27:45
I honestly don't understand why we aren't going in for Berbatov. Fulham are looking like favourites for him at the moment after he rejected both Juve and Fiorentina! Surely if we want to progress we have to be competing with the likes of Fulham, I know that Lerner is being tight on wages and what not, but we need another big player in a team of youngsters! He would get goals and assists for fun aswell! Realistically though we will buy the young lad from Chesterfield and that will be it for the rest of the window.

Berba seems to play for himself. He can score amazing goals and has fantastic skill but sometimes he is jusy lazy. WE ahve too many of these players at VP.

Perhaps the £5m a year pay deal was part of the reason we didn't go for Berbatov

30 Aug 2012 07:46:26
Don't know much about Bennett and even less about Bowery but guess they in time will fit into PL's ethos and playing style.

The issue is that we do not have time on our hands, we're blooding wholesale youngsters into the team and boys v Men never see a consistent result for the former.

What we need and hope to god we get it is a catalyst, a big name that will ignite some positivity around the place, call it a quick fix if you like.

I know it's early doors but we are already playing catch up, our youngsters confidence is on the down side and we urgently need a pick up.

If we continue with our current run it will only get harder.

Randy splash the cash get a marque signing in and lets get behind Lamberts revolution !

Who do you think could be our catalyst ?

Dempsey?

29 Aug 2012 11:45:31
Well no marque signing,no ambition,linked with poor players who are reluctant to sign and trust in the manager and board falling fast just another poor season on store for us villa fans but we are all used to it by now

Vlaar is our major coup and INTERNATIONAL centre back for 3m shrewd business

El Ahmadi looks good also

and theres this Benteke supposdly coming in

So calm yourself down so we've had a few poor games the players are bedding in.
Do we trust Lambert to build a team that will play through their skins for the club...YES.
Do we think it will happen overnight..NO.
Do we believe we'll be a force again now were under Lambert....YES
Can Lamert guide us to a 10-13 finish...YES
Will there be highs and lows...Yes

But one things for sure
VILLA TILL WE DIE
VILLA TILL WE DIE
WE KNOW WE ARE
WE'RE SURE WE ARE
WE'RE VILLA TILL WE DIE!!

29 Aug 2012 07:15:26
really liked the shape and personell of the team last night!

we might be young but with a few signings we could have the potential of being a very united squad!! ?

28 Aug 2012 14:37:59
Everton fan here, you guys really need a shake up! I dont know how this happened to you but its not going to go away overnight. But i cant see Lambert pulling it off. He has reached his peak and its time for a McLeish-like slide to unemployment!

Yeah, thanks for that.
Why don't you just enjoy the football your own club is playing rather than enjoy someone else's misery ?
In other words, grow up

Amazing Toffee, one good result against Villa and now you are offering advice. Good luck to you for this season but get back to your own page, or are you so sad that you spend all your time going through other club sites?

You Villa fans are so tetchy!!

I'm just happy that you see beating Villa as such an achievement mate
It's flattering
Mendax

Who is tetchy?

28 Aug 2012 09:04:44
Lambert should never have become manager! He was good at Norwich because they had players without ego's, not like Ireland, Bent, Agbonlahor and Dunne! He wont be able to control them and wont last the season! I might go support Walsall, better prospects there....

Please go and support Walsall we don't want persons like you supporting us we support villa win lose or draw you must have a bigger ego than those you mention if you think we need people like you at v.p

Yes you might aswell !

I would like to see you manage this team mate. Lambert is one of the best managers in the league. Given time he will work wonders for villa

Bloody hell, I heard there was one but I thought it was just a myth.
A Blues fan that can write!
Mendax

I think he has a valid point. But Walsall? Really...... We did need a big name manager, Lambert is not yet proven.

27 Aug 2012 17:37:32
right, so paul lambert says he cantjust wave a magic wand,thats fair enough but have been putting the squad there paces for the last 3 or 4 months or so, why are our midfield running around like headless chickens defenders dont defendand strikers dont strike,you dont a wand to explain to them what you want and what they sould be doing PAUL , your starting to sould like the previous muppet playing the blame game, your signings have been poor no quailty at all,LOOK what frees and loans you have missed DAWSON HUNT LUKAKU SCHARNER ANDY JOHNSON DANNY MURPHY OWEN HARGREAVES KALOU SAHA,WE went for none of the above and to me thats a joke im not saying these are great players but on frees some would have braught experiance and a bit more quality and cost NOTING

Its because Lambert is a joke, he took all the credit at Norwich although it was their level headed, hard working Cheif Exec. who has the brain behind the operation!

27 Aug 2012 09:04:43
It is not so much as who we can bring in to strengthen the team but who we can get rid of quickly. 1) Faulkner 2) Lerner are both surplus to requirements.

26 Aug 2012 23:53:14
Personally just from what i've seen and what i wouldn't say no too i believe randy will cough up some cash and we could possibly end up with...

Cresswell/Olsson/Bennett

Huddlestone (on loan due to gardner injury)

Brahimi or Tom Ince

Andy Carroll.

If we got these 4 we would be alot stronger. before you say no to huddlestone and say we need a centre back lambert has said that he regards herd as a centre back also. I don't think we will end up with brahimi it would just be nice to see also i'd prefer olsson as we know what he is capable of and he can do the prem. Andy Carroll is as much as you dislike him. you know he will add something different to our attack also with albrighton and gabby to come back.

Bennett? As in Ryan Bennett? As in the man who said he was never going to abandon Norwich like Lambert did and knows he is better off at Norwich. Or are you talking about Julien Bennett? He is about as good a player who would actually want to join the sinking ship that is Aston Villa!! Enjoy your last season in the Prem!

26 Aug 2012 11:03:01
Anyone think relegation may be a good thing?

We'll lose our top player - Bent

But, we will also be able to get rid of all the over payed, average players - Ireland, N'zogbia, Hutton, Warnock, etc.

Have time to adjust to Lambert's tactics.

Give more playing time to our youngsters

So then we will, hopefully, get back into the prem with low wages - meaning we can sign a good few players - players able to play the managers tactics.

No relegation would be a disaster. we certainly would not bounce back, the championsship is too strong for us we would get bullied in every game.

You have a small club mentality mate
The answer to our woes is not going to be relegation. Who says we would come straight back up ?
It's tantamount to saying saying that playing Russian Roulette can cure your headache
Mendax

I remember AVFC dropping like a stone to the old Div 3 in the late 60's when it was thought that they would take Div 2 by storm. Dropping down and rebuiling is no guarantee of coming back up. money must be spent now to keep AVFC in the prem. Chapionship is no place to go!!

26 Aug 2012 07:17:41
lets re-sign Heskey!

Do u mean lets resign ourselves to Ivanhoe? He would probably turn us down. Seriously I know what you mean, no one else is coming in!!!!

26 Aug 2012 01:04:02
Right, It is obvious signings need to be made for us to be competitive at all and with a "supposed" mystery signing that we have made we had better hope its the start, bring in people like joe cole and tom huddlestone cause at least there is more creativity than the team today

25 Aug 2012 19:22:57
Well, after watching the Everton game where do we go from here...the transfers that PL needed should have been tied up before August and then spent pre-season bedding in...Its just ridiculous to hear Sunderland spending £25m on Johnson and Fletcher...its time for Randy to dig deep to improve the squad as what is the cost of losing prem status - £100m?

The cost of premiership survival this year is not £100m. Thanks to the new Sky deal its over £200m. If we were to go down and, by some fluke, we could come straight back up imagine the disadvantage we would be at and the amount we would have to spend to put together a team capable of competing. Simply answer, spend now, don't risk finishing in the bottom three and take the money next season we the new tv deal kicks in

25 Aug 2012 16:04:22
Wouldnt be suprised if Lambert starts to panic buy. Expect alot of new signings coming in, to be honest we need them at the rate were going.

25 Aug 2012 15:56:26
given a massive footballing lesson from everton today. same old crap from us an't got a clue, lambert must be taking lessons from macliesh, because nothing changed at all. the drop looks certain

25 Aug 2012 07:39:26
Lambert must bring in a striker or we are in serious trouble we had £24m to spend we spent 8m on Vlaar lowton and el Ahmadi where has the other 16m gone ??

24 Aug 2012 23:00:09
The best scenario for all concerned was to bag transfers early on, especially after the earlier furry of purchases. It has now gone dead. We have a great Manager who has great potential and early signs were that he had a plan; it is clear that we have to get rid of high earning players.

But surely that should not stop us !, come on we could be on a crest of greatness, we are a force !, spend some money, not a lot get some lads that will fight for our cause... Get em' in and we will follow em'

Faulkner out.

24 Aug 2012 20:53:30
what was i said about o'neil if we don't move fast enough he'll sign all he can get his hands on, first fletcher now adam johnston. sunderland at least showing ambition mr lerner

24 Aug 2012 17:47:45
I think its going to be 1-1 tomo.

Hopefully this will spur a couple of signings over the next week, it'l be evident that tomorrow we still desperately need a left back too!

24 Aug 2012 14:46:04
I believe that Lerner will wait until January before he opens his purse. He wants to see if Lambert can do anything with the current players. If by some miracle we are in the middle of the table, then nothing will be done. If we are in the upper level he will sell players, but if we are down the bottom as we all expect then he will blame Lambert give him a few miserable quid and tell him he has to improve. Even deadly Doug was better than these cowboys!

24 Aug 2012 08:45:54
Was Savage right when he said we are Contenders? (for the drop) are at the very least a narrow escape, this is what most fans are concerned with as 9days to go and club are yet to prove him wrong by making their 2012/2013 season intentions clear by showing ambition
The Trust in Pl/PF/RL is deminishing as the deadline day draws close. Rumour RL is planning to sell before Jan is now sounding more true.

Some Villa Fans say be positive, have faith, I say actions speak louder than words. Every Pundit knows PL is a good manager but Villa need depth, a Marquee young Vibrant CF that can link up with midfield go past players two footed and generally make things happen, some quality and power in midfield that will allow us to compete and not be bullied off the ball (delph/bannan- little men with average quality that will not fair well against the likes of Stoke/Everton etc... who have big aggressive players)

Defoe/Berbatov/Benayoum links show a clear desperate lack of ambition, I hope our new head scount Michael plays a trump card before friday.

Forget puuting rumours on here (although I love em) not 1 has come true, our hopes are always dashed as other teams are make the decent buys, look at Laudrup the value being spent is nothing £2-3 mill but the quality he has brought in is clear to see.

Apart from Phillips who we need and would be ideal for our club, we nned to look abroad for better value for money, not getting Brahimi is a sad loss. For a Marquee players who is available and was subbed last week pointing to being unsettled is SOFIANE FEGHOULI.. as for the sceptics why NOT, we tedn to get good players after their best Ginola

You say signing Defoe and Berba lacks ambition and then say we get players after their best and we do well with them. Make your mind up!!,

23 Aug 2012 17:12:20
A cautionary note for RL & PF, 2013 see the new deal with Sky and even greater riches for the clubs in the Premier League, now is not the time to choose not to invest in the squad. Like to old saying you need to speculate to accumulate

22 Aug 2012 20:56:02
Chamakh on loan anyone?

Just a thought as it looks like defoe's staying.

22 Aug 2012 18:57:16
i wish pl would get a move on if he is going to sign anybody else, there won,t be anyone left with o'neil and hughes wanting to sign every player available.

22 Aug 2012 03:09:40
Who the duce is balde??

He has recently signed for another club, I doubt we will get him

21 Aug 2012 11:43:25
Not so much a rumor but Villa need to replace Warnock lose Hutton. and Bring in Ollson

And bring in a decent winger I.E Phillips,Ince, Zaha none of which wouldn't cost more than 5-6m

And a striker why not Rhodes he's a ball player and has a killer instinct in front of goal Huddersfield would accept 3-5m

Now i apreciate none of these are prem names but theyed do the job for villa

Villa are picking up the dregs of other clubs. I think that we are all realising that it aint going to be an easy ride this season. It looks as if PL is either satisfied with what he has (heaven help us) or is being left at thge post when asking about players by either Lerner or other clubs. No matter what, 2012/13 is definately going to be a struggle. I am not being negative as some people like to suggest but merely realistic, it doesn't look good.

Dregs of other clubs? El Ahmadi was feyenoords stalwart/pass master in midfield last season, Vlaar was their stand out defender to the point where he went to the euros with the dutch squad (I know they did no good) I'd hardly call their best def and mid dregs of a club.

20 Aug 2012 00:22:48
this isnt a rumour but would anyone like arshavin and gael kakuta on loan.Cus arshavin would be cheap and I say chelsea want kakuta to get experience in prem

Cheap? arse want 10mill for him! he's 31!

19 Aug 2012 19:29:24
claret and blue army.............claret and blue army. rome were'nt built in a day fellow fans. we lost to west ham away woopee dooo daaaa, ive just watch southampton come close away at the champions......... both promoted teams fighting from the word go, strange results from the weekend but this is football, west brom beating liverpool 3-0, swansea,fulham 5-0 wins. arsenal 0-0 at home, and all i hear and see is that some villa fans are not happy, the premier league is getting stronger every year. if it were'nt for RL taking over would we still be in this league?? everybody makes mistakes and last season was RL mistake in appointing that person, but now we have a decent manager i believe but it might take a few games and a couple more signings to get into it. theres going to be defeats, ups, downs, highs, lows but i believe it will be a much better season than last ha ha ha and pl will make villa park a fortress again with a bit of time. PL knows what he wants and only he and RL know what purse he's allowed to have. have faith. top 10 finish and maybe a good cup run would be good. claret and blue army..........

Also the age of the squad as a whole is young,with a few more signings and a few on there way we will have a team and squad all moving in the same direction. give it time! i for 1 am very optimistic for this season !!

19 Aug 2012 09:43:56
There were some positives from the game, we kept posession, we played the ball on the ground instead of hoofing it up the pitch like schoolboy football & the midfield were pretty solid.
Get another decent defender & a striker thats willing to run and make space & we should be ok.
How do you think QPR, Tottenham, Norwich or Liverpool fans are feeling this morning?

18 Aug 2012 15:16:08
Gone quiet on the Annan front. I believe this is cause delph is being given a chance before end of window. Hes starting today against WHU

16 Aug 2012 20:06:16
Why is WBFC a better Proposition for Lukkaku than AVFC, Why are non biased pundits tipping Villa for relegation floaters? the answer lies in the present.

Yes we have PL but with 2days to kickoff of 2012/2013EPL season, we have no depth, no Marquee signing, 70% of the same squad, lack of backing by RL, some average buys.

I'm actually optimistic, however we definitely need a Marquee signing i'd say Feghouli, a young promising striker {Konate} a LB {Cresswell}.

And no this is not beyond us nor is it overstretching our finances, have a look what lesser sides around us are doing, the quality of players their bringing in.

We cant stand still nor can we move forward at snails pace if we expect to compete, yes we must be realistic of our current plight but also optimistic of possibilities, the players brought in I like, Vlaar for Captain even Clarke are good options to choose from, but we need more.

Some may say realistically it's a done deal for Brahimi or Phillips, but we need young vibrant power upfront that can actually go past players to play alongside Bent with wingers of equal or better quality & No it wont cost a fortune, my 1st list would cost no more than £13mil plus players still being sold and a few good youngsters like Carruthers, well be more than just fine & that's most villa fans dream of

Not so sure those players are marquee signings. Id say more like adam johnson or defoe.

I would say Vlaar is our marquee signing
and i think he'll prove how good he is out of all the signings he excited me and i think its wait and see on the rest.

We wont sign Defoe, Jones maybe with Hutton going the other way

16 Aug 2012 08:36:34
Looks like we won't get Matty Phillips, Southampton bid 6 million

15 Aug 2012 17:07:59
Pl has flown to Rennes to push through the transfers of s poulson and bhrami in a deal for jean makoun plus 4million

Team then will be

Given
Lowton
Vlaar
Clarke
Poulson
Nzogbia
El amadi
Ireland
Bhrami
Hollman
Bent

2really good players both suit us and pl style of play plus we really need a winger and l/r back

I'd be happy with that I know our loan quota is empty may be after teams have selected the players for the opening games there will be a clearer picture of who is available

14 Aug 2012 00:10:00
All these people saying "were weak upfront" "we need another striker" ect are a joke, we have an England international who is capable of giving 20 plus goals a season, we need to bulk the defense and possibly get a winger. Adam Johnson, Cresswell and another centre back will do for me.

Ok, but how many injuries has this England international had lately, and how many goals did we score with him out of the side?

Answer is, he had plenty of injuries and we scored f.... all once he was out. Dont you think its not a bad move getting another quality front man in just in case history repeats itself?

And would it not be better for the wingers to have 2 strikers to aim for in the box, also better for bent to have a partner up front to a) take some pressure off the poor blokes shoulders. b) create some breathing space for bent in and around the box by taking a defender away by making runs and being marked himself. Bent is not a target man, and is outnumbered at least 4-1 in the box at the moment

11 Aug 2012 22:45:46
Eljero Elia played for breman today. He's a player we should have been lookin to bring in, exciting winger

This player would command a 15m plus price tag so it wont be happening at villa any time soon.

Considering Werder Bremen got him for 5.5 million euros, I doubt that.

11 Aug 2012 12:24:19
Steven fletcher will be at the villa soon I reckon
Sunderland have turned their attentions elsewhere n fletcher wants out of wolves

Sunderland reported bid £13m yesterday, I for one hope PL doesn't contemplate getting involved in this saga

11 Aug 2012 01:39:29
Villa's Mystery Striker iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis "Lukaku on loan" With Brahami & Creswell to follow, that will be villa's final movements, with the revenue of any further sales kept for the January Transfer Window, With only the creme del top of Our Quality Youngsters blooded & developed.

Lukakau is at west brom and signed on loan yesterday so you can defo forget him being at villa!

We need 1 more defender a winger and a striker and maybe a cm

09 Aug 2012 10:12:36
Hope we get fletcher great striker double figures last two seasons at struggling club and a fair few at burnley just think what he could do at a mid tabled club like us. Bent and fletcher upfront perfect, most headed goals last season great on the ball too also will work endlessly. People slating him on here obviously never seen him play but when he band in goals they will eat there words typical fickel fans.

I agree will always score goals, i Hope Gary Gardner gets his chance he has more to offer than Bannan

04 Aug 2012 13:33:33
Hi Everton fan here. Why do you not put your European Cup stars on your shirt?, Forest do. It reminds people of your great achievements, and looking at those stars would inspire the players, sponsors and fans. good luck for the season Jon.

Lol!! We don't put it on our shirts?? The star is on the villa badge! So it's not only on our shirts but it's on everything associated with villa so long as the badge is incorporated. Look at the badge!

Ok I did not notice that, you cannot see the details of a badge. What you could see is 2 stars above it! Jon

01 Aug 2012 22:13:44
Villaposted a statement Makoun having problems getting a work permit due to his lack of english

HMMM

I find this a clear sign Makoun is leaving as he couldn't speak english before and it didnt stop him playing before he went on loan

Part of him getting the work permit last time was that he needed to learn English ,then when he went to olympiakos and his loan ran out he needed to come back.under the condition previously set he failed to learn English so hense why the is a problem ,it will go through and pl will give him every chance to prove himself

01 Aug 2012 11:29:00
collins done and out !!!!

Hutton next and hopefully warnock to follow ??

And Dunne