Aston Villa Banter Archive May 01 2015 to May 31 2015

 

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31 May 2015 20:15:31
There is no point in reviewing yesterday's dismal performance but it did reflect the attitude of the players. They would not play for PL and now they won't play for TS.
He got the tactics totally wrong.
With some good fortune we could have new owners before August, possibly a new manager and several new players.
Living in the land of the gooners I am having to kep my head down and I wish Lerner had kept his head where it usually is, up his . He sat in the best seats in the ground and seemed to take little interest. I may be wrong but I believe that he no longer has any idea what goes on at VP.
The sooner he goes away the better.

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31 May 2015 22:13:22
Come off it Oldvillain. Can you not make a comment without harping back to your point about Lambert ?
We were outclassed by a much, much better team. And yes, Sherwood made some mistakes
But with the players at his disposal; Lambert's players, there is little we could have done against an Arsenal team who turned up with their A game.
Few teams in this country could have stopped them on that form
The real test for Sherwood will come in the summer.

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31 May 2015 23:02:53
Got to agree with Mendax, even at our absolute best we would have struggled against Arsenal - that was definitely the best they have played this season. Yes the players weren't on it and Sherwood could have changed things sooner (same for the Southampton game) but that doesn't warrant getting a new manager in for next season. Sherwood has earned a chance to mould a team of his own after what he did to keep us up.

And as much as Paul Lambert needed to go - perhaps even sooner than he did - he did what he could in terms of player recruitment with the funds available, and obviously not all of them are the right calibre. Hull invested 43 million this season and look where they are. PL had that to spend over 3 seasons.

Hope your right on the Lerner front Oldvillian, he needs to go and he needs to go quick.

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01 Jun 2015 18:22:31
I agree with both of you on Lerner. The sight of him laughing in the crowd, more than once, made me feel sick
I haven't laughed since Saturday !
I really hope there is a decent buyer in the pipeline now that we have secured our Premier League status

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01 Jun 2015 21:12:22
Its clear he hasn't got the passion for the club anymore. The last premiership game I saw him at was a Chelsea match early in the season where you could see him on MOTD sat next to Roman Abramovich. The kicker was they weren't playing Villa!

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31 May 2015 10:18:24
Hi all I know your all bitterly disappointed by yesterday and rightly so, us Arsenal fans are no strangers to seeing our team not turn up for big games, Stamford bridge and Anfield last season took some watching plus Monaco at home this season to name the most recent ones.
if someone had said to you on new years day that you can have premier league football next season plus an fa cup final with all its build up and excitement and all the wins along the way not to mention that feeling on semi final night when you beat Liverpool but you have to be awful in the final its self, could you have honestly said no to that offer ?
My point is yesterday was a very bad day at the office for you but in comparison to how things looked a few months back a disappointing day out at Wembley ain't the worst that could have happened to you this season

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31 May 2015 15:59:32
You're right, I think most of us would have taken that offer but there's a difference between playing badly and a complete regression back to the football played under Paul Lambert. I can take losing (were quite used to it) but that performance was dire; we didn't have a single shot and combined with the losses at relegated Burnley and that demolition by the Saints it feels like all the good work Sherwood had done to keep us up is unravelling.

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31 May 2015 16:41:22
I've got to agree Andy you were as terrible as we were fantastic yesterday, at the start of the 2nd half I had to remind myself we'd changed ends because with the ease and little resistance we were going forward it felt like we were going back to our own goal for a minute.
Personally I think Tims fresh face and feel good factor impact arrived just in time to keep you up and get you to Wembley but the bubble burst shortly after both were achieved.
This summers transfer deals both in and out will tell us all a lot about nice but Tim and next season it will be his team that goes out each week.

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31 May 2015 18:38:46
Great
Outclassed in the FA Cup final , then patronised by other supporters
Thanks for telling us how plucky we were and what we should be grateful for

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31 May 2015 21:21:40
Apologies it was never ment to be patronizing but reading it back again I suppose it could be taken that way.
Sorry for any offence none intended.

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31 May 2015 22:16:47
Fair play to you for the apology mate. You don't get much of that on here
As you can probably tell, feelings are still a little raw.
Sorry to bite your head off.

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31 May 2015 22:38:59
Fair comment, my timing could and should have been much better.
Good luck for next season villa are a big club who will sooner rather than later be once again in and around the European places.

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30 May 2015 21:51:17
So, after that fairly tragic display Sherwood made it sound like he already has a good idea of who is getting the chop in the summer in his post match interview. It is refreshing to hear the manager come out and say its not good enough rather than the Paul Lambert spiel 'I couldn't have asked any more of the lads' even though we got smashed.

With this in mind, who should go in the summer and who would you replace them with?

Alternatively, which players deserve to wear the shirt next season?

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31 May 2015 08:26:13
Whole of the back 5 needs to go. I'd have butland
Richards brooks Shawcross Enrique
Cleverly Gardner Delph
Grealish
Austin Robinson

Keep gabby for bench along with sinclair gil baker burke plus a few more new squad players need to be flexible with more formations using sinclair and gil in the right games. This is also taking benteke will be off which I think he will and lerner backing. If a new owner comes in with bigger budget my choices would be different hence another proven cf to partner Austin and couple more big names.

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31 May 2015 16:49:36
I'm not sure about playing a diamond midfield with no width every week. We only really have one winger at the club (Sinclair) and I'm tired of not having the option of playing 442, 433, 4231 to match teams playing different styles. When we have gone wide we have to shove Agbonlahor, Weimann (ST's) Grealish, N'zogbia (CAM's)out there, and Gil seems ignored and Richardson and Bacuna who are not defensively solid enough play in defence. This lack of options put so much pressure on the outside midfielders to constantly run up and down and press and create and we have seen Delph and Cleverleys performances dip towards the end of the season because of it. It doesn't help that the back four is sub par as well.

With that in mind we need to ship a lot of the 'wingers' and LBs/RBs we have on the books and find some decent replacements. N'zogbia needs to go, he's never looked comfortable in a Villa shirt. Joe Bennett, Luna, et al need to go. Richardson should stay, he's a great utility player and really has saved us on a number of occasions this season and can play virtually any position in a pinch.

I'd look at Trippier from Burnley and push Bacuna forwards as he's not good enough defensively (He played as a CAM/Wing Forward for Gronigen) but can score, cross and has a wicked dead ball.

Its also been a fact that the side under PL was in dire need of a goal scoring and goal providing CAM. As much as I love Grealish, he hasn't got goals in his game yet and its unfair to lump too much pressure on him too soon, and he rarely seems to last over 70 minutes. Cole is too injury prone and Gil seems to be forgotten entirely so we need someone more experienced to supplement Grealish and help him develop. Maybe Mo Diame from Hull if he gets fit again.

We also need a midfield general, a destroyer to sit in front of the back 4 and help them out, like Matic or Wanyama. PL tried with Yacuba Sylla (another one who needs to go), but Leroy Fer from QPR might be a shout. Joey Barton wouldn't surprise me either, he seems like he'd be Sherwoods sort of player.

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30 May 2015 21:17:59
That was torture watching that today. If you can't be up for a fa cup final then you shouldn't be a football player. And as for Mr lerner sat in the stands laughing and joking when your club has been battered your a joke hurry up and sell and head off back to your baseball toss

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30 May 2015 19:32:27
Another pathetic show, men against boys another record broken well done you useless bunch, 58 years since we last won and they play like that

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30 May 2015 20:25:35
embarrassing. can't think of a better word, if this was the game that sherwood was hoping would make up bentekes mind i think it worked. bye bye ben

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30 May 2015 21:30:20
I think its safe to say the Sherwood honeymoon period is over after 3 consecutive losses, 11 goals conceded only 2 scored. The tactics have been all wrong for weeks now and he seems so reluctant to change tactics during matches or simply just doesn't see it. I'm beginning to see what the Spuds meant by Tactics Tim.

As good as Grealish is, he's not quick and struggled all game against Bellarin until gabby came on and he went more central. Sinclair should have been on from the start with the aim of hitting them on the counter attack. we tried to pass the ball far to much and we were comprehensively outplayed.

I honestly feared the worst when I saw the team sheets and we looked like a Paul Lambert side again. Hopefully we have a decent summer transfer window and Tim can mould a side of his own making where he has more players he's confident of switching in and out to adapt the formation. If not - its another relegation scrap, which we WILL lose without Benteke.

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30 May 2015 22:58:20
What a load of rubbish.
'Tactics tim' came in and steadied the ship, with out of which we would now be a championship team.

His mistake today was to much respect for the arsenal. Not his fault they couldn't play. The players are to blame for not being up for an FA cup final.

If the right deal is done, and Big Ben goes, as long as it's early we will be fine. He has been great for ten, maybe 15 games this season. Perfect, except the season is nearly 40.
Charlie Austin, Ricky lambert, perhaps kozak could fill that roll. If he wants out, get the money, invest it and let him go.
Don't blame sherwood for playing the players at his disposal when he has had no say in who is in. This is not his team- yet.
How can you condemn us to relegation when the fixtures not even drawn.
Attitude like that why should we even turn up, let's throw the white towel in now, and save our money.
Ffs. All these fans come out the wood work because we reach a final, and then just find fault in everything.
Would rather we kept the hard core, and our dignity and belief.

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31 May 2015 00:35:43
I assume you are referring to me when you say 'All these fans come out the wood work because we reach a final, and then just find fault in everything'.

If you can genuinely find any positive to take away from that match other than we managed to get to the final in the first place then I am all ears. I mean no disrespect to Sherwood and the job he did keeping us up but other managers could have done it too, and we've seen it time and time again when teams sack managers the replacements bring a short term boost to the side just like we've seen this season.

Why did he continue with that suicidal high line against Southampton after the first 15 minutes where we were battered black and blue and realise the danger. All us none 'hard core' fans could see it coming. And then to not change anything until we're 5-1 down. Crazy.

Same with the cup final, some of the players didn't have their best games, yet he did nothing to change it until it was too late. Grealish was useless out wide and dramatically improved when he played centrally in the closing stages. Hector Bellarin is the fastest player in the league so surely the pace of Sinclair would have been more appropriate? Nzogbia was totally ineffective, so why not bring Agbonlahor on sooner, or give Gil a chance?

I wasn't expecting us to win, but to put up a good fight. We had ZERO shots! Doesn't that sound familiar? Paul Lambert's team in the first half of the season - the very core of why he was sacked. Sherwood's choice of players is obviously limited but he should at least make use of everyone at his disposal even if they are not his type of player until he can rebuild the squad to his liking.

And if you seriously think Rickie Lambert is a suitable replacement for Benteke your deluded, why not push the boat out and get Soldado as well.

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31 May 2015 09:35:13
I don't think rickie lambert is technically half the player Big Ben is no, but, if he doesn't want to stay at villa, and the pool are willing to pay 20-25 million for him, with lambert in that deal then I say go for it. He would still score 15-20 goals in our team.

And last night I was angry, tired and slightly worse for wear. Reading my comments back, was a little harsh and showed no respect, and where rude and unfounded. I apologise.

But my main sentiment stands. If any of them don't want to be here let them go. No one, no one is irreplaceable.

My anger for that display yesterday is that we didn't do our selves justice.
Can live with losing. As long as we try to win. Try being the operative word.

Any way Andy. I am sorry!

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31 May 2015 16:28:43
Apology accepted Flackie, we all know how you feel!

If any of them don't want to stay then we should let them go and more over if Sherwood deems them not good enough they should go as well, its painfully obvious that some of Lamberts enforced bargain buys are not cut out for the Prem.

Sherwood should be given the chance to rebuild the team in his image, remember that he has never had a transfer window to create a team of his own as he came in mid season at Spurs and was canned in the summer. I'm genuinely looking forward to what he can produce - I think his seeming unwillingness to really change things around in games stems from a lack of confidence in the playing staff he's had at both clubs. At the very least we will have a side with a stronger mentality, players who will run their guts out for the cause week in week out.

Despite his age Sherwood has less than a season of management under his belt so still has a lot to learn but underpinning this is a wealth of experience in coaching and development which other managers don't have, and this might come through in the signings he makes.

I just think its slightly unfair to pin all the blame on the players for that Arsenal match, when Sherwood could have changed a few things around. I'm not saying we would have won and he that cost us the cup, not by a long shot, but it wasn't the perfect tactical plan. A big factor in Sherwood keeping us up is that for weeks Delph and Cleverly ran their guts out for the team for 90 minutes week in week out and that's got to be draining for a player and not a sustainable way of playing. Now imagine after all that trying to press Arsenals midfield 5 with their passing range and pressing with N'zogbia and Grealish as two of our 5. No wonder it looked like they weren't trying. let's not forget that we were up against a full strength Arsenal side who probably played their best game of the season, and that Sanchez strike was unstoppable.

At the end of the day the main thing is that we are still in the Premiership and have another shot next season, and I'm excited to see what Sherwood can do to the squad.

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31 May 2015 18:41:13
Kind of see your point, and although I do agree that arsenal where on fire yesterday, we had in my opinion our worst team effort of the season. And in a cup final, that is unacceptable.
The effort of the playing staff falls totally at their own feet. Not the managers. Tactics, formation, even team selection totally agree, fully tims fault. But I think selection wise he was restricted, gabbys performance against burnley ruled him out, was never going to start. And Sinclair has been struggling to get fit since his knock.
I do think bacuna was really unlucky.
But. To not be able to rise in the FA cup final? That is down to the 11 on the pitch.
The occasion got to them. Showed to much respect to the opposition. And got swept aside.

Today is a new day.
Onwards and upwards!

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31 May 2015 19:49:18
I swear that ever since he came to the Premier League that Ozil is rubbish unless he's playing Villa where he seems to turn into the 40 million player they paid for.

But you are right, none of the players were at their best and you just have to look at what Hull did against them last season to see that any team has got a chance on the day if the players want it enough.

I think Sherwood is right when he says the players have a losing mentality, how often under PL when we conceded the first goal did we fall apart or never look like getting back into it. It looked like that again in the final and after that Sanchez goal went in those players believed they had lost it.

I'm interested to know which of the starting 11 you think are the worst offenders and need to be sold. I think Benteke, Grealish, Delph, Cleverly, Richardson, Vlaar, Okore, Given have all shown at points under Sherwood that they should be playing for us next season. I wonder about Hutton, he tends to get rash with his challenges when things aren't going our way. Westwood is a good metronomic passer in midfield but isn't physically strong enough defensively and provides little going forward. N'zogbia has never really done much in a Villa shirt.

Of the notable absentees, agbonlahor is a great club ambassador and should be used as a sub, Weimann isn't good enough.Sanchez hasn't really been the defensive rock we need, Clark works well with Okore, Vlaar works well with Baker, but other combos don't gel well. Cissokho is crap going forward but a reasonable defender. Kozak and Helenius are fairly untried so should be given the benefit of the doubt. Guzan is a beast and bar that one blip against City has saved us numerous times. Gil we've barely seen. Bacuna needs to be played in his proper position and Lowton obviously has some issue with the managerial staff to keep losing his place. I've probably missed a few but you get the idea.

Like I said I would be interested to know who you would get rid of.

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01 Jun 2015 20:36:26
I did reply once mate, but seems not all posts are showing.
In short, not really sure I would get rid of to many. For simple reason our squad needs depth.
I totally agree re guzan.
And with a previous post about Barton. I can't stand the guy, but. Think he would bring something we desperately need.

So.

We need a new gk, I love given, but he is getting older, and we need competition
Both full backs, we play wingers there, says it all.
A ball playing defensive midfielder. Joey Barton. Perfect fit
Ball playing No10. I hoped gil. But Tim disagrees!
And poss. A striker. I say poss as if kozak can get fit, I think he is perfect!

Anyway!! Positive thoughts!!.

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01 Jun 2015 21:27:14
A couple of my posts haven't made it up either.

I agree that the squad needs depth but we must surely have to operate on a roughly one in one out basis and there is a lot of dead wood which clearly have no future at the club which we must get off the books ASAP (Bent, Tonev, Luna, Joe Bennett spring to mind) so that should free up some space.

I kind of agree with your point on Barton - I'm not his biggest fan either but he seems to have calmed down a bit this season, although he is prone to relapses.

The top priority for me is getting the wing backs sorted out, we haven't had it right for years. This would allow Bacuna in particular to move forward into the midfield and I rate the guy when he doesn't have to defend.

Presumably when you talk about the strikers your assuming Benteke is staying.

If it was me and the funds were available, or raised through sales, I would get Charlie Austin up front (as a Benteke replacement if he leaves), Mo Diame, Barton, Keiron Trippier and Cleverly if the wages are right - and that's just for starters.

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01 Jun 2015 22:49:38
I use windows on a laptop but I might be guilty of using some inappropriate language :)

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02 Jun 2015 01:09:34
My post that is missing May of been construed that way.
Fed up with pure negative post talking about our massive demise, from people who couldn't give a monkeys until we knocked the baggies out.

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02 Jun 2015 08:57:58
We just like to keep you on your toes!.

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30 May 2015 16:48:05
Everton fan in peace, just want to wish the villains good luck for today, proper club with proper fans.

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30 May 2015 11:47:41
Can I please be the first to say happy birthday to Steve Gerard

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30 May 2015 14:53:14
Irrespective of who we support you can't deny he's been a fantastic servant for England and the premier league won't be the same without him. Brendan Rogers messed up letting him go - he should have finished his career with Liverpool. Shame that Stoke and Villa ruined the party for him :)

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29 May 2015 15:37:55
Just got to say! I'm so nervous!!

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29 May 2015 17:19:10
Last time both Villa and Falkirk were in their domestic cup final they both won, 58 years ago. got to be a sign. and a good bet lol

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29 May 2015 18:03:03
I'll take that!!


But won't hold my breath!

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29 May 2015 18:37:16
We have a punchers chance
Benteke has to be at his monstrous best. If he is, he can really bully their centre-halves

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29 May 2015 18:59:01
Everyone will need to be at there best just hope the defence turn up! But i can see us nicking it! C'mon Villa!

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29 May 2015 05:32:21
So it looks like Benteke will be off after Sherwood reveals he has a £32.5m buy out clause. Can't see anyone no meeting that and he's worth much more!

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29 May 2015 12:48:34
Sherwood hasn't revealed he has a £32.5 million buy out clause
Sherwood has revealed there is a buyout clause; he didn't say what it was

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29 May 2015 15:19:16
We knew there was a buy out fee, was announced months ago.
If he's going, go early, please. Give us this summer to re build and find decent replacement.
I personally hope Austin and Ricky lambert.

Worse case is we hold out for whole summer for extra £3-5m and miss all best viable options

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29 May 2015 18:57:35
Where has the figure come from? It's reported the same everywhere I've seen

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29 May 2015 23:20:52
Buy out clauses are common place these days and we know Sherwood is know for telling it how it is in interviews. Someone still has to match the buyout clause though and if there are multiple suitors we might be able to push the price higher.

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29 May 2015 00:59:39
In light of our recent dip in form, how does Tim Sherwood set the team up to beat Arsenal?

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29 May 2015 15:21:20
We dipped in form as everyone was had tomorrow in their heads.
We worth about our selves, let arsenal worry about us.
Play with out fear. And attack.
They will score, but can conceed plenty.

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29 May 2015 15:37:02
Bloody auto correct!!
Had tomorrow on our minds!!
And we worry about our self!

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29 May 2015 23:17:58
If we play that high line against Walcott and Sanchez we will get destroyed. I think we have to go 5 in midfield to match them and Delph and Cleverley are going to have to run their guts out pressing their midfield. If we can get chances we have seen that their defence is not the strongest so Benteke should do well against them if we can feed him. Also their Keepers have looked suspect for a while now, so set pieces could be crucial. They will likely play either Ozil or Ramsey in a wide left position which we might be able to exploit. If we can manage to cobble together a back 4 we have definitely got a chance.

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27 May 2015 16:08:14
So after todays Lerner interview we at least know there are bidders but obviously far from a sale. If it results in no sale going through and just a new chairman who could it be?

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25 May 2015 21:36:25
I really hope we keep Benteke. The way he plays doesn't look to me like he really suits Liverpool.

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27 May 2015 22:36:58
Maybe Tim should point out to him how well Balotelli and Lambert have done since moving there.

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24 May 2015 22:07:19
Anyone notice as soon as Agbonlahor is back in the side, poor results and little contribution.
I have said before, with him in the side it is like playing with 10 men, Get rid I say,

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24 May 2015 23:40:01
Not sure its entirely Agbonlahors fault but I think we played much better with 5 in midfield. We know he's not clinical enough and we should use him sparingly against opposition with slow defenders or if we need to play over the top. He could make a good impact sub with his pace if we can tire the opposition out.

Good luck tying to find a club to buy him though!

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24 May 2015 12:50:01
Would you sell Benteke to raise the funds to rebuild the team?

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24 May 2015 20:31:58
Only if he is set on leaving. If he wants to stay we should keep him, if he wants better then I believe after three years of service we thank him and wish him the best. The caveats being that we get top money for him and that he doesn't go to somewhere like Liverpool who aren't good enough to challenge for silverware.

I genuinely think that if he went to Arsenal they could win the league.

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24 May 2015 01:43:05
Question - Would anyone at this stage be too aggrieved if Benteke was sold. On his day he is world class and after three years of being dragged through relegation scraps its obvious that he should be playing at a higher level. I think if we can get around 35-40 million for him (and in the current market that's a steal) we should thank him for his services and let him go. I think we would make better gains by selling him now and overhauling he squad than to continue to rely solely on the goals he can provide. If it was me In charge I would go for Charlie Austin AND Danny Ings as both would be attainable targets - not good enough to play week in week out for a topside, would be attainable in terms of transfer fees and wages and might well be swayed by Villa's exemplary record of producing England internationals. Just a thought as a Benteke transfer saga is almost a transfer windowly occurance and he should have the ambition to play in Europe on massive wages - just so long as its not Liverpool, their too 5#!% or him. Would love to hear some thoughts on the matter and who should we be looking at to replace him if he goes (Please not Adebayor!!!)

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24 May 2015 12:30:18
Hi AndyVilla.

I think you are spot on mate, Charlie Austin would be my target anyway, I think him and Benteke would be a good pairing.
Not sure about Ings,I think Austin is a more natural finisher.

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24 May 2015 15:17:34
Ings just scored against us!!! :(

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24 May 2015 18:31:50
No, I wouldn't consider selling Benteke at all
We heard the same arguments for selling the likes of Young, Downing and Milner.Look where selling those guys has left us (ie we lost Milner and gained Ireland)
We have a top class performer in Benteke and we should be looking to add more of his calibre, not flog him and spend the cash on inferior players

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24 May 2015 20:26:27
Thanks for your thoughts Mendax.

Perhaps I wasn't so clear with my explanation. I don't want the club to sell him and I totally agree with your point but realistically he has been our only real goal threat for three seasons now and surely he must have higher aspirations and scores of clubs monitoring him. If, like the rumours suggest, we win the FA cup and qualify for the Europa league he wants to stay then that's fantastic. But unlike the transfer debacle after his debut season where he supposedly wanted to bail on us straight away (Which would have been disrespectful after PL gave him his big break) we really haven't made any progress and if he wants to go we should let him as I believe it would be counterproductive to keep a want-away player.

I guess a lot of our transfer business will depend on if Randy Lerner can sell up or get new investment. If we have significant transfer funds to spend to add quality players then yes we should keep him if at all possible. If we another season with no investment we might well be better off cashing in on him.

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24 May 2015 20:45:46
Andyvilla
Yes Ings did score today but let's face it you hardly have to be a world class striker to score against us do you !!
Ings is ok but I just prefer Austin, and paired with Benteke I think would be good.
And please don’t say they are too much alike, they are totally different in style and technique.

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24 May 2015 21:43:06
Id love us to get Austin and keep Tekkers but a lot will hinge on a potential take over and it may force us to act later in the window. With QPR going down and facing hefty fines they might want to sell assets straight away and Austin will have a lot of clubs interested in him so we might well miss out. If I had to take one or the other I would take Austin over Ings as he is more of a complete forward but I think they would make a solid pairing.

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24 May 2015 22:03:33
yeh we are not far away are we, you ings and Austin and me Benteke and Austin.
I do agree about the time factors though.

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26 May 2015 19:05:42
I know what you are saying Andyvilla but the fact that he has been our only real goal threat in the last 3 years would suggest we actually can't afford to let him go.
We have bought a lot of players in that period and none have been a consistent threat ; How can we risk squandering another 30-40 million quid on gambles ?
Forget about Benteke having higher aspirations, surely we as a club must have them.
Keeping Benteke would be a signal of intent and has to be our attitude

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27 May 2015 02:35:23
Don't get me wrong I would much rather we keep him, but going back to my original point I wouldn't be offended if he wanted to go elsewhere and I think he will if we don't win the FA cup. When he handed a transfer request in after his first season that was a bit #$%* on his part, but he probably did deserve a pay rise and that's what he got. And if he is offered a chance to go and play in the Champions league I don't begrudge him that opportunity after what he has given to us over the past seasons of misery.

You say we shouldn't risk 30-40 million on gambles to rebuild the team but you've seen what spending 10 million on a few gambles gets you - Joe Bennet, Luna, Helenius, et al.

The dream is we finally get the takeover sorted and have 30-40 million to invest without selling players - but I'm not holding my breath, we all though PL would be the turning point at first.

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27 May 2015 20:45:12
Trouble is mate, we effectively spent £18 million on Nzog and Ireland
My point is, Benteke is a gamble that paid off (not all transfers do) and we need to capitalise on that
I have to say I tire of the narrative that says I wouldn't begrudge this player or that going to another club because they've been here for a few years and they now deserve the opportunity to break their contract as it pleases them
Benteke was happy to sign a lucrative contract here and if we see him as fundamental to our own progress we have to, at some point, say "sorry big fellah, but you're going nowhere"
Seems to me that we talk too much about individuals in what is a team sport
At the end of the day, a guaranteed 60-80 grand a week is no real hardship is it

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29 May 2015 00:47:54
Its obviously a very polarising issue but its a fact that players rarely ever stay with one club for an extended period and other than PL taking a chance on him and bringing him to the Prem he has no ties to the club emotionally. He's not a fan and the manager he signed for is gone. If you were in his position (try to put you're own fandom aside as its not something Benteke shares the same way) and someone offered you a huge pay rise could you honestly say you would turn it down? I dislike the way the transfer system works and how easy it is to break contract but remember that however lucrative a contract the player is on, that's what the transfer fee is - paying off the remainder of the contract.
I would much rather that Benteke stays with us and the club turn down any offers for him - but being realistic he will go eventually for a higher level of football and I won't be mad at him for doing so. Like I said before after his first season when he wanted out, that annoyed me, but I imagine he was promised we would improve when he signed his improved contract and that simply hasn't happened.
If he leaves and we see him playing in the Champions League in the future we can be proud in knowing that we were the club that made him and it could prove to be a good advert for the club to potential future signings.
Thankfully we seem to be in a unique position that we have players like Agbonlahor, Grealish and Gary Gardner that are fans of the club and have a huge allegiance to the cause.
Just as a side note I want to thank you guys for the discussion and its great to know what real fans think.

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21 May 2015 12:05:47
Would you rest players Saturday against Burnley ready for the final or put out a full strength side and try and regain some confidence after being demolished by the Saints?

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23 May 2015 09:17:04
i said soon as we was safe that i wouldn't risk it with certain players, as we all know it only takes a dodgy tackle and your out the final

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18 May 2015 17:25:04
Looking at Saturday I'm just hoping the new manger factor hasn't wore off on the players, I think we played a very line on Saturday and think vlaar' s head is somewhere else at moment, this window comeing up is going to massive for us, we have to buy in so many areas, we still need a no 10 a cm that can pass the ball lb that can defend cb that can defend and goalkeeper that can keep an odd clean sheet

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19 May 2015 00:31:01
Guzan has 9 clean sheets. the top this season is only 13. So don't know what your on about. De Gea has only 10 and he was in team of the season.

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19 May 2015 07:12:48
Guzan is a good keeper, but needs to cut out the mistakes not a game goes by and he makes one,in saying that he has maybe got us anything 5-10 pts year with some off his saves

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16 May 2015 17:27:38
well we are safe and with only one league game left personally i would be sending out a weak team vs burnley and hope for fully fit team for the final,

hopefully tim gets given the money to spend next season and we can build a great team and start to improve- i don't think i can cope with another season like last few years

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18 May 2015 10:50:20
A weak team went out on Saturday.
Why did they defend on the halfway line?
My wife could have gone through the gaps.
Is Vlaar ready to go? Seems like he was AWOL most od the first half.
Why did Sherwod just sit on the bench? Could he not see the problem of a high defence?

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16 May 2015 09:45:30
Would you give Sherwood another season? He has certainly done well in his short time, but is he the right man to take the club forward for the long term?

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16 May 2015 10:46:38
Definitely, he's already improved us massively in 3/4 months so God knows what he can achieve given time and a chance to sign his own players. If it wasn't for him and how he's changed players attitudes and form i think we'd already be down. So yes sign him up, he's bloody deserved it! Tim Sherwoods Claret and Blue Armyyy!

Oh and one more thing, We,re the famous Aston Villa and we're going to Wembleyyy!

Maybe Tim can finally show us this bright future we keep hearing about!

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16 May 2015 13:25:50
Would you like to change your answer now? Villa look a shambles defensively today, what has happened??

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16 May 2015 14:11:24
Haha i was expecting that! No i stand by what i said! Give him chance to get in a few players, GK and get rid of Ron Vlarr and we'll be much better next season. 1 game doesn't make everything else he's achieved irrelevant.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry mate, I couldn't resist. Glad you aren't going to have a knee jerk reaction after one game, even one this bad.}

16 May 2015 17:08:20
as we all said few days ago there are two or three spots need fixing in this team and toay it showed. LB hutton may have been out of position but we have been poor there for a while now,

GK given could hardly be blamed for the 6 goals and we might never get our hands on a de gea or a neuer but far too many times over last few season we have lost games via bad keeping,

CB i don't rate vlaar didn't understand the hype about him going utd but again he makes so many mistakes which equals goals,

and i think to finish we need someone to help cleverly and delph (if both stays) in the middle and a goalscorer because we are starting to look like a one trick pony with the lump it to big ben

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16 May 2015 17:12:08
I totally agree, The Villan. I was disappointed today, but I still think that Sherwood is a very good manager. Vlaar didn't put the effort in the match, now I'd rather have Senderos in defence. If players like Westwood, Bennett, Luna, Stevens, Sylla, Tonev and Gil are sold, then I think that Villa will have enough transfer money to sign the players I like.
I would sign Richards, Cleverley and Guidetti on a free in the Summer, and I would buy Diego, Kaboul, Horn and Sinclair. What a team that would be next season.

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16 May 2015 18:11:00
I would play Gardner in midfield he would add height and goals if he stays free from injury ,could be the next Gerrard ,the forest fans loved him

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10 May 2015 20:50:02
Guys, now we look all but safe just wondering what you guys think our squad could be next season. Say we had £20 to spend and reasonable wages what do you think we got get together. Mine would be:
Tim Krul (about £5 mil)
Kieran Trippier Vlaar Clark Robertson
Westwood(maybe someone else)
Delph Cleverly
Grealish
Benteke Gabby (Austin or ings maybe)
I think we need two new full backs quite desperately and maybe a new a keeper and one of those two strikers would be very nice but apart from that don't think we need to buy a lot more quality this time. Those two fullbacks would fit perfectly into sherwoods way I think. Wondering what you guys think just to get This website going again haha. Don't seem to have much to talk about when we are winning.

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10 May 2015 22:06:19
austin would be good plus phillips, ings is too high rated by bigger clubs so don't think we have a chance. tripper i think is a good shout but think we can get better, and as much as guzan has done for us we need a new boy in sticks, hope now with us pretty much safe we can focus on cup and get that bagged up and have about of euro footy next season gives people more chance of buying the club

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10 May 2015 22:19:53
Another striker is a must. Gabby has got past his "new manager on the scene, I better put a shift in" phase and gone back to his normal lackadaisical approach to the game. Though he was shocking when he came on yesterday

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11 May 2015 09:40:39
Definitely agree with another striker, GK and left back. I like Bacuna at right back so think he has earnt that position at the moment. For me we should snap up Sinclair and get him in the starting line up always looks dangerous and scores goals. It's jut fitting everyone in which i never thought would be a problem for this Villa squad! Thank God for Sherwood!

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11 May 2015 10:57:16
The left back position is an area that needs addressing immediately. Richardson is a liability and needs to go, cissokho is more than adequate as back up but not good enough to regularly start in my opinion.
I think with a full pre-season Bacuna could become a decent right back for us and with Hutton to come in if we're trying to sure things up and hold a lead like against West Ham is a very good option.
I agree strikes about guzan, him and shay are too dodgy and not solid enough if we want to move on. I'd love to get Tim Krul but can't see him joining anyone outside of the top 5/6, maybe Sherwood could convince Jack Butland to join his young English team and "if" we get taken over surely he would have the funds to do so!
We've got to be in the market for Austin as well, he's a born finisher! Imagine him up top with the big man there's 30-40 goals between them easily and both can play up there on their own should one get injured or we need 5 in midfield.

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11 May 2015 16:14:24
We've been looking for a new left back for too long now. Think we need to spend a bit more on someone like Robertson and make sure.

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New keeper, right back and a striker. We could also use another midfielder and potentially a left back although I'm quite a fan of Kieran Richardson.

One thing that is for sure is that we need Vlaar, Delph, Cleverley, Grealish and Benteke all in the side. So the formation is really dictated by these guys.

My team would be:

____________Lindegaard

Trippier___Vlaar___Caulker___Richardson

Grealish___Delph___Cleverley___Sinclair

__________Austin___Benteke

That's 4 fairly pricey improvements to the squad. Trippier is an excellent right back and Burnley are down so he will be available. Same applies for Caulker and Austin who will be made available by QPR - both are too good for the Championship. Lindegaard is 3rd choice for United now and is a very good keeper in his own right, could be a very astute purchase!

For the squad I think we should also have a look at Livermore, a bit of steel and a physical presence in the middle - not sure Sanchez quite cuts it.

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11 May 2015 20:01:06
Caulker has been relegated in both the last 2 seasons - keep him as far away as poss from villa park!

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10 May 2015 07:49:25
We are staying up.
That is all. UTV!

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08 May 2015 01:13:51
well iam sure u have all heard paul smith an tony adams are trying to buy the villa my worry is that if this goes through sometime within a year if we hit a bad patch sherwood would be gone an tony donkey adams put in charge. It might even happen sooner rather than later. And if it does go through villa will then be in the red because they are not buying with there own money either. I fear for us if this rumour is true! how ever i do know that tony adams was at a wedding in azerbaijan when he was supposed to be meeting lerner at bodymoore heath. Lerner said he was just doing a flying visit let's hope he stays as sherwood is playing amazing football an is a really good manager he does except that if a take over does happen he could be sacked.

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08 May 2015 14:25:16
Even if Adams and co do manage to scrape together £150m through various sources and make a bid it doesn't mean it will be accepted. Whatever people think of Lerner i still believe he has the clubs best interests at heart and will only sell if it's for the best of the club! But i agree having this group takeover doesn't sound appealing even though we've only seen very breif details.

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07 May 2015 17:43:17
Reading that former Arsenal/England captain Tony Adams is looking for investors to take over Villa. Personally, I don't think this would be a good idea as they would not have enough money to fund the club. Apparently they are just one of many consortiums looking to take over Villa

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07 May 2015 20:16:27
Sorry up UTV but you seem to have got every aspect of this wrong
Tony Adam is not "looking for investors"; He knows the bloke who has pulled together some kind of consortium and has given some kind of advice.
As for whether they would have enough money to fund the club; how do you know if the other investors have not been revealed ?

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Found an artical about someone from Azerbaijan. Who owns the team Tony adams currently works for.

http://goo.gl/TvbNfZ

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05 May 2015 07:56:59
I still think our safety will come down to the burnley game, I haven't posted here a lot in the last couple of months but I will have to admit it's been great watching us play free flowing football again I think little timmy has been great, i just feel that there is something big going to happen at the villa in the next couple months, I think the take over is going to happening, and who knows what money will be there to spend

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05 May 2015 19:04:12
very intresting and scary few weeks for us villa fans, personnaly think we will turn west ham ove rand that's us clear, really don't want it to come down to last game as if you get a red in that game don't you miss the final? really don't want delph benteke vlaar or anyone one else going into the last game full speed and over doing it *red card*

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09 May 2015 08:20:43
Very short sighted.
If the teams below us all win then nothing changes and Sunderland have a game in hand.
Even two wins may not be enough and TS has said that we need to win all 3 games.
It is a time to hold your breath as every game will have an effect on who joins QPR & BURNLEY in the championship.
Benteke must keep his form and I am pretty sure he can then we should be secure.

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03 May 2015 13:23:57
Now that Derby have fluffed their lines and missed out on the play offs, does that mean Bent is now eligible to play for us ?

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04 May 2015 12:53:34
No, him and Gardener were not named in Villas 21 man squad in January so aren't eligible. Would you give Bent a new contract?

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05 May 2015 20:22:49
Good God no, mate !
Bent's days as a consistent premiership striker are past him in my opinion
I think he would have been useful on the bench for the last 3 games though

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