Aston Villa Banter Archive March 01 2014 to March 31 2014

 

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31 Mar 2014 07:06:44
So, who do we think is getting relegated? Cardiff and Fulham are at the stage where draws won't be enough for them? Have we got enough points already?

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Need to beat Fulham on Saturday then go and win or draw against the teams around us we still have to face. Should be safe. I think Cardiff, Fulham and Sunderland will go down.

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29 Mar 2014 19:07:06
Hi lads, leeds fan here (sorry you didn't beat the reigning champions today)
Just to let you know on our rumours site that a couple of people saying your RL interested in buying leeds.
Not trying to get into a debate about comparing clubs, however I wondered if any of you heard this?

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Hi Mate.
I have not heard anything to that effect, and doubt it very much, but IF true I hope he sells Villa first.
To be honest I hope its next week.

Best of luck anyway mate.

Villdave

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I hope he has done it already. Until Scrooge departs we will never find out if PL can hack it.

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29 Mar 2014 14:43:45
4-1 Stoke
4-1 man u
whats next lambert you EXCUSE FOR A MANAGER. can't wait for the post match excuses, just do everyone a big favour and leave and take your motley backroom bunch with you. and don't anyone start on about we;ve improved from last season if it wasn't for lucky wins against arsenal man city and chelsea we would be right down in it.
sorry if I sound peed off but just had it now with the crap they are dishing out now.

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A really poor performance. However if Ben had put away the chance when he missed the ball and the pen that Vidic always gives away but never gets given, a point blank header etc. We could have been walking away with a point. Clark was his usual useless self and in the end the team looked lost. PL cannot be blamed all the time, the players must take some of the blame. if you do your job badly, you don't see your boss being sacked. he gives you a bollo. ing. This is where PL struggles. he can bollo. players but they might cry. There is not a man out here that doesn't think that he could do a better job than PL, but I ask the question, if PL goes who will come rot VP?

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The think that gets up my nose is you never see lambert going irate on the touch line when players are playing poorly. for gods sake lambert grow a pair and give your players some earache

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29 Mar 2014 14:41:28
Speaking at a promotional event in South Africa, Richard Scudamore had this to say about the decline Man United being bad for the premier league.
"There's lots of fans around the world who wish Manchester United were winning it again, but you have to balance that off against, generally, we're in the business of putting on a competition and competition means people can compete. "
Sort of interesting when you hear that and then think of the multitude of soft penalties and dodgy decisions that Man U have been gifted over the years don't you think?

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Ooh, what are you suggesting you naughty person?

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Ha ha. More to the point, what are you thinking Old Villain?

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Probably the same as you. Wierd coincidence but a very interesting statement by a senior official.

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I was a bit gobsmacked when I read it to be honest. It hints at a culture at the highest level of the games administration which is biased toward the top clubs.
That has to permeate into the minds of the refs, surely?

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And you said that I had a conspiracy theory! Oldvillan

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If I were to be pedantic, not that I would be, but if I was. I would say mine was more "conspiracy fact" than "conspiracy theory" Old Villain

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26 Mar 2014 20:26:20
Lots of posters call for PL to go away. Now let's be realistic, who would be the likely next manager? Forget who we would like, who would come to VP? with Scrooge at the helm we won't get a proven quality coach as they would need money. Perhaps Scrooge might sell and a shiek becomes our benefactor but that is a fairy story waiting to happen. Who do you see coming to VP and getting us up the table?

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Laudrup?

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Agree villajk

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Are Swansea below Villa in the league? wasnt Laudrup sacked? Why do we want a manager that had a team performing worse than Villa?

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That's just it Oldvillan, Swansea don't perform worse than Villa they are a far better footballing side.

With one or two additions they would be a very good side indeed, they know how to keep the ball and pass it about that's for sure.

Laudrups side I think.

Villadave

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If you want hoof ball PL the man but if you want good football play on the ground Laudrup would be my choice we all have a opinion villajk

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Hi Old Villain
Who would you have as a Lambert replacement, assuming it comes to that?
I actually wanted Laudrup at Villa before he went to Swansea. I could not believe it when they got him
Obviously something has gone wrong behind the scenes at Swansea this season but they were above us in the league when Laudrup was sacked and they have had to cope with the EUEFA League this season. I don't think the effect that has on a small squad can be underestimated
Laudrup would be a good fit for us I believe

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Hi Mendax, I don't know. Laudrup style of football did not really produce better results, it just looked pretty. Stoke looked pretty on Sunday but they are called a long ball team. I think that I would like to see Lerner depart ASAP ad we get an owner that will allow the manager to spend a bit bigger than PL has been allowed. We don't know what PL could do given the chance, he has made a couple of good buys and yes half a dozen questionable buys. If we are to progress then we need a rising manager from abroad, but I have no idea who. Several have gone this season from prem. clubs and more will follow. But to answer your question, I really have no idea but the next one will have to get it right.

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It's a tricky one that's for sure
I must admit I didn't realise at the time, but we badly we missed out when not getting Martinez.

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You see the problem, nice fancy football but below Villa in the table. Bit of a mix up, fancy footie or league placing?
Mendax, do you think that Martinez knew that Moyes was on his way to MU and had been offered Toffees already?
The great fear that I have is that if PL goes we end up with an "Allardyce. "
PL has not been helped by Scrooge or the loss of players like Okore.
Some weeks back I pointed out that the defence was dire and someone (no names) they know who they are, stamped on me to say that only 8 teams had conceeded less this season.
Had Okore been there all the season then I think that we may have been in with NUFC & S;hampton.
Perhaps I long for Ron Saunders and his style of play, but even that was a lot of long balls.
If PL goes then we are all in the hands of a man that knows F A about football (soccer to him. )
WE need Lerner out and an owner with as much passion as the supporters have, and as much money as we think he will need.

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Blimey Old Villain, that is one helluva conspiracy theory. I doubt it to be honest. If that was the case, why would Martinez have even bothered to talk to Villa. The truth, I suspect, is that having realised what restrictions he would be under had he come to Villa, Marinez thought "thanks, but no thanks"
All of which makes you wonder whether Lambert was brave or stupid in taking the job under the same conditions.
Without labouring the point about Laudrup, you can't talk about Swansea being below us as proof that he would not be an improvement for us. They were above us when he left and the previous season totally outclassed Bradford in a Wembley final. Something we failed to do over 2 legs. Ironically, had they lost that final, I believe they would be streets ahead of us as they'd not have to cope with the rigours of European football

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Should have got Brendan Rodgers when we had the chance

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24 Mar 2014 07:38:27
Can anyone please tell me what exactly holt brings to the team as i'm at a total loss with lamberts tactics. Is randy sure this manager is a qualified football coach has he actually seen his cv.

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Holt brings nothing so far, I guess he was just a quick replacement for Kozak. I really do not think we needed either player, all that money should have been used to buy an AMC, and Lambert knows it. Sure we can all pick quite a lot of errors from Lambert this season, but I still think he is doing not so bad with the squad of players he has. If we finish mid table, I would be quite happy with that. The only way forward is for Lerner to increase funding, Lambert should be given the chance to spend this money, if it appears. Unless a 'big' manager comes in, I would not like to see yet another 'up and coming' manager given a crack at the whip, it's just a recipe for more instability.

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Holt was intended if Benteke gets injured, apart from that, Nothing. PL cannot carry the can for a team that thought they had cracked it after beating Chelsea, and then play for 5 mins and sit back. S. t defending, nothing new there.
Now the chips are down as we won't get much from OT on Saturday.

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24 Mar 2014 07:12:49
What on earth was that rubbish yesterday? a classic case of us thinking the game was won before it kicked off just because of last weeks performance, we tried to treat stoke like a sunday league side and got heavily and embarrassingly humbled. at least we are consistently inconsistent I guess! when is okore back because baker, although I truly admire his commitment and bravery, is championship standard at best in my eyes, bacuna was too big for his own boots yesterday after a few great games is a big disappointment too. I also think that after a solid outing against chelsea, joe bennett should have kept his place as it seems to me bertrand thinks he is too good to be at VP and isn't working hard enough to secure a spot. rant over. thoughts guys?

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23 Mar 2014 17:51:50
Absolute disgrace, lose at home to Stoke by such a margin is not acceptable. No doubt Lambert will give his usual interview and we'll all here "we were excellent". Hang your heads in shame. AGDVILLA

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How frog crap are we stoke haven't won away since august, lambert might as well put an advert in the papers any team needs 3 points come to villa park you can have them. sick and tired of lamberts comments and excuses. randy please for gods sake GET RID OF HIM

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Last week we were praising the same players for an outstanding effort against Chelsea, now its PL's fault.
How can we blame PL when the same team play great then crap?
We see it all the time, the players believe that they have done enough, relax in the next match and throw it all away.
Over confidence leads to mistakes and that is what we had today.
The defence were as bad as they have ever been and that includes concrete Ron, more like sponge Bob today. So many times you could have driven a fleet of buses through the back line.
Baker should be farmed out and at the risk of being hammered by many, Gabby needs to put his act together.
It is wrong to select names but on a day when most were s--t I am happy that we got 3 points against Chelsea.
Total disgrace to lose to Stoke, only scored 6 away from home all season.

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Get off please back. He has had two brilliant results and ye we had a set back yesterday but there is certainly a big improvement this season. There wasn't as many people posting on here last week when people should be saying how well we played but one bad result and people are quickly onto here to complain

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Have a day off, 1 bad result where have you been all season? Stoke, Palace, West Ham, Fulham. Lambert needs a rocket!

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I'm talking about recent weeks where we have been good

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23 Mar 2014 16:29:48
2 nathan baker mistakes again for stokes goals!. fed up with the guy, didn't challenge crouch for the header then stands next to guzan for the second leaving crouch wide open. the kid is s**** and I should know I went to school with him

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Here we go again back to the usual crap defending, dear me when is lambert ever going to learn that baker just isn't good enough, can't see vlaar signing a new deal he probably can't wait to leave this pile of crap

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Have to agree with the above, Baker is awful - what does have to do to lose his place?!

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This team is awful we are like a lower league side who can sometimes raise our game a bit like say shef united in the FA cup and cause a upset. PL is not right for AV no Adams no Ireland and still played better football never rated Hughes as a manager but stoke can knock it about villajk

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22 Mar 2014 18:05:43
Can anyone give me a clue as to why Sturridge was allowed to leave AVFC? It was about 2003 when he went to Coventry.

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{Ed007's Note - He left AV in 2000, he was 11 at the time.}

Things like this would have happened to meant clubs that they let quality players go when they are so young. The worse one is that we could have falcao and cavani for 6 million each! Instead we bought hesky

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22 Mar 2014 16:23:53
Am I the only one in thinking that although he made a mistake, the ref who sent off the wrong player at Chelsea, may have been right in ignoring the players who pointed out the correct player to send to the stands?
The reason I say this is that week upon week players lie through their teeth, dive for penalties, claim through ins they know are not theirs, feign injury etc etc
Yet all of a sudden a ref is being hung out to dry because he didn't trust the players protestations. Seems a little harsh to me
Would you trust any of them?

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In some ways I agree Mendex but I don't see why chamberlain would want to take one for Gibbs when he is a better player than Gibbs if you no what I mean. But I do get why the referee wouldn't want to trust players as you say

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16 Mar 2014 22:50:41
If Fulham go down we should go in for Scott Parker

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Parker won't move out of London

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Tired legs, he can't last 90minutes

Finch

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16 Mar 2014 15:22:06
I know that this is our site, but how much longer can Moyes survive at MUFC? Watching this game makes you wonder what Is going on at OT. Moyes is unable to handle the millionaires. He was ok with the players at Everton but has not got to grips with the super stars. Why did he buy Fellani? Looking at the MU players today, none of them would get in the team at VP.

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As a villa fan myself, you talk rubbish would swap everyone of the team for Rooney class get Mancinni or the saints manager and they would fly we again, we play boring football and kid ourselves PL as no idear

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Oh dear, what a lovely response to a simple question.
Wake up and read what I posted, I was questioning Moyes's ability to manage MU.
The performance today was dire.
However, I too would swap many of our players for someone of Rooney's ability.

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I would swap all the team for Rooney we could build something around a class player you can not compare PL With Moyes he did good for everton

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Mate,

Oldvillan is not comparing Paul Lambert to David Moyes is he.

Villadave

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Mate Oldvillan is saying non of the united players would get in the villa team be realistic

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No he saying that Moyes is out of his depth. Simple!

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15 Mar 2014 20:45:36
Well would you believe it? 3 points that go a long way to safety.
Occasionally over run but the ball ended up in the right net.
All of them played well but it would be great if we could watch Villa playing like Chelsea every week.

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Fantastic performance. I think its easier when we play the bigger teams at home because they don't come an 'park the bus', it suits the counter attacking style.

Peach of a goal for delph too.
Finch

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Brilliant goal by Delph.
If Hazard had scored it they would have extended MOTD by a couple of hours to go on about it
Results went pretty much for us as well

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09 Mar 2014 19:01:05
Just watching Melberg play for Copenhagen, still a great centre half and good pro.

Would be a great leader for us even now.

Villadave

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Think he could still cut it at a higher level Dave?
Finch

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Yeh I do finch, he was good when we had him before and I think he could still do a job for us until we find that gem that's out there somewhere

Villadave

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Weve been blessed over the years with quality center halfs mellberg was certainly one of them.

definitely think Bertrand should be signed permantly to fill that void at left back.
finch

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Got to agree with you mate.

Villadave

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08 Mar 2014 19:47:54
How's Gardner getting on at Wednesday? Haven't heard much about him there

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Getting fit

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08 Mar 2014 15:05:52
Lots of genuine comments ref. players willing to come to Birmingham. Benteke even thought he was going somewhere else! The city is a great city but is not within the scope of most players minds. They don't have to live in the city or even close by but they do need to be impressed by the surroundings and VP is not the best postcode in the city. Birmingham is not a top European city even though historically it is important, so names do not want to know unless the pay packet is very big. A few years back it was said that Middlesbrough took players to ayersome park after dark so they could not see the area! When the chance came to build a stadium at the NEC the council should have gone for it but they backed out leaving the city with 2/3 teams in the middle of houses where the were built nearly 150 years ago. What a lift this would have given to the city, and what an opportunity for our AVFC to bring players direct into a ground direct from the airport. Rant completed!

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You raise an interesting point Old Villain. But, taking Barcelona as comparison, Camp Nou is nothing to look at from the outside and is not in a salubrious part of the city
I think a lot of the old established clubs are historically located in inner city areas due to the fact that when they were originally built, they needed to be close to large centres of population who did not possess private transport (Wolves and Newcastle are 2 good examples). I think the biggest problem for Villa is the image of the city rather than the location of the ground.

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Hi mendax, that is the point I was making. Most of the world see our city as a less than desirable place to be seen. So how can we get top players to come to VP. You mention Newcastle, but they have an unbelievable image in Europe regardless of the heavy drinking culture. Nothing can be done about the image of our city until which is such a shame. I have a friend who some years ago had a connection with the city side and they realised that the city was the problem with signing quality players.

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Yep, I don't think Timothy Spall in Auf Wiedersehen Pet did us any favours.
Benny from Crossroads was no help either

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I think a Villa team challenging for honours would also help.
I am a Brummie and proud of it, but our teams performances and immediate prospects will surely affect our chances of signing proven quality players.

Villadave

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06 Mar 2014 14:45:52
I think between now and the end of the season we will see the moulding of the first team with okore and kozak back. I think the squad will definitely need additions especially to fhe midfield but if nzogbia stays next season and plays could we perhaps start playing a variety of formations. Okore has amazing qualities, Kozak on his day with a few crosses in the box could put in a goal every few games. Nzogbia hasn't really did anything but we all know he can. Add this to the young lads who are currently out on loan in the lower divisions, who seem to be doing well. Lambert would probably otherwise take a punt on those kids anyway.
Call me foolish but I reckon next season we will see a very different aston villa team so long as we stay injury free

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How do you know Okore will be the same player we don't, we don't know how good he was has he never played enough games Kozak is rubbish.

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Sorry mate. I admire your optimism but Kozac is truly awful. Okore looks to have potential but is untried as yet (I think he is the real deal though)
Nzogbia is a waste of space who has hardly shown anything of the player he was at Wigan. I can't believe that a year out will help him in recapturing that form
As for the young kids? Who knows. We've been here before with the Moores
The really scary thing is that Lambert is going to be the guy spending what little transfer funds we will have next year

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Just seem Gary Gardner won't get a new contract, when he's unfit he has more to offer and better than KEA Stella Westwood and most of the other bad buys This will be another Gary Cahill, let's not pretend last weeks win papers over how bad we are and its all down to PL villajk

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Kozac looks like a decent player to me and in a poor team his goals to game ratio is good!

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Is gary gardner excelling at sheff wed?

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The writing off of Kozak is disgraceful, hardly had a chance, whilst still in his first season in England still picked a good amount of goals.

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The problem I have with Kozak is that he seems very pedestrian at times, and I feel he lacks natural ability.

Villadave

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There are a lot of "disgraceful" things going on in the world at the moment. Having a low opinion of a millionaire footballer isn't one of them

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Okore buy was rated as oe of the best of the summer. PL payed very little for a player that achieved full international status in just a few months. When fully recovered he will be a man mountain at the back and may well solve our frail back line. Must admit that I am perplexed at PLs attitude to Gardener. We don't know if he trains well but PL needs convincing about him before he decides. It could be that his injury record is influencing a decision, after all we have two players sitting on the table for the entire season and one or two others that have not been available for many games and this does not help with the economic situation that we know Scrooge stands by. Oldvillan

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05 Mar 2014 11:31:21
Ok so this may sound a little farfetched but puyol is out of contract at barca at the end of the season and is destined to leave, I recall bolton bringing in aging pros at the end of their careers and having success with it (Okocha, campo and djorkaef) why not us too?
Finch.

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Why not us? because we obviously don't pay out big wages

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I wouldn't be adverse to the odd (class) ageing pro but puyol's knees are more shot than a resident living in compton, and I believe he is retiring at the end of the season because of this.
Distant Villain.

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Have you ever been to Barcelona?
There's a good reason he's been there for 20 years and it's not just the football
He isn't coming to Birmingham any time soon

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Got to agree Mendax.

Corporation Street is no match for Las Ramlas

Villadave

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Then why did superstars go to Bolton years ago then mendax?! Even dugarry went to the blues!

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Why do you have to live in Birmingham to play for Aston villa? Half the existing squad don't.

If puyol does play for someone next season I'd expect the contract to be on a pay as you play basis.

Finch

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Nobody has said that Villa players should live in Brum Finch, I am just saying that I don't think Puyol would come to Villa Park.

And to the guy who mentioned Dugarry

Dugarry was a wanderer he played for several clubs in his time.

But Puyol I think has played all his footballing years for Barcelona, so I think if he does move he will be very selective who he goes too, and I think he would prefer to stay on the continent and play for an Italian side or maybe stay in Spain, I am sure Valencia or Sevilla would be interesting for him.

His wages would also be a NO NO

Viladave

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Haha puyol will never come to villa. He is one of barcelonas legends and if he is going to move he will go to someone like Monaco, play at a decent standard and still earn a ridiculos amount, I doubt he has ever heard of villa lol

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But we're not talking about Hierro or Dugarry are we?
I was making a specific point about a specific player. Puyol, who has spent the last 20 years in Barcelona. He is also a Catalan which means he probably wouldn't want to move to Madrid never mind Birmingham

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I wasn't make a specific point about puyol and more the relevance of signing an ageing pro, the poster above got it nevermind mendax and the constant cynicism.
Finch

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I think you are getting realism confused with cynicism
I do agree however that an older head in our defence would not be a bad thing
But the Puyols of this world are never going to materialise

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03 Mar 2014 20:29:53
What do Villa fans think to Wes Hoolahans lack of goal celebration yesterday? why would he care what the Villa fans thought? has the deal already been done and is he set to arrive at the end of the season? after seeing him play would you want him at Villa?

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I would hope for someone better younger but PL will sign him, if he's not a regular for Norwich that says a lot villajk

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Glad you have not said you come in peace.

Hoolahans link with us I hope has gone away, if we have aspirations of top four or top six we need to be looking at players far better than he is.
So in short not for me.

Villadave

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No way we will be looking top 4 top 6 next season

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I have not said top 4 or 6 next season have I.
The key word here mate is ASPIRTIONS.

Villadave

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You right you have not and for that my apologizes but should we not think of moving up to the next level of 10th and 7th next season? I do not want to get any more cheap imports from abroad and lambert will do well to add some premiership experience to this squad imo! is this lamberts level or can he go higher and if he can't the club will be set up better for another manager to take over surley?

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We will never get into the top 6 again are you in dreamland or what that's actually made me laugh out loud

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Maybe we will not get into the top 6 again, but surely that's what we "ASPIRE" to do.

So laugh away mate

Villadave

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I think Lerner has done a pretty good job of lowering both our expectations and aspirations
I would love someone better than Hoolahan but let us be honest. He would improve our midfield
I think his reaction to the goal suggests a deal has already been done

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02 Mar 2014 20:40:21
Hi all.
Good result today, team performance was not great but 3 points are very welcome.
At the same time last year we had 24 points and goal difference of - 26

So we are 7 points better off and goals against -7
it is a slight improvement on last year if you do the maths, but the worrying thing is that we were playing better football last year.

Our remaining fixtures are affecting the way I walk, there is a squeak coming from behind me
with every step.

I think we will amass 42 points come May I just hope it will be enough!!

Villadave

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I actually think we are playing better football this year, the likes of delph and westwood are actually keeping the ball on the floor, eventually this kick it long to big ben will be less prominent and if we bring in another creative midfielder and get rid of KEA, I can see us playing some really sharp football next year

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Sorry mate I can`t agree with the better football bit.

Our passing has been shocking, Delph has improved yes but to be honest I don`t think Westwood has.

We need two quality Playmakers and a hard no nonsense centre back and then maybe we can get a bit of quality in our team performances.

I think Gabby and Weimann are poor at times I am beginning to wonder are they up to it.

I am just saying it as I see it, gabby is villa through and through but there is no room for sentiment here

Viladave

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I'm with Dave on this one
We are the worst footballing side in the division for me.
Some power and pace is what saves us occasionally

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Hi Mendax.

Correct mate, worst footballing side in the Prem.
I love Villa as you clearly do but some home truths need to be realised by some

Viladave

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Dave if we amass 42 points we'll be pretty safe that's for sure. 39 points will do it this season.

Great to see big ben get some confidence boosting goals today.

Finch

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We don't play good football probable the worst team at villa, how sad to have watch this rubbish not one player has class villajk

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Hi Finch.
Great confidence booster for Benteke but we need to play the ball to him on the bloody floor as well and not just hoof the thing in hope that he gets on the end of it.

Villadave

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Yea totally agree Dave. We need a whole new midfield to be honest.
Finch

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Last season we remained between 20th and 15 th in the league with a cheap built squad, this season with some more cheap additions we have remained between 10th and 15th in the league, good better points better, playing style changed as we was letting goals in like nothing but for me nxt season will be very important as only quality is going to take us between 5th and 10th next season and that can only mean better football.

well done lads! utv

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Not sure what your point is mate.

Villadave

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Norwich was a great confidence builder for benteke but then he went and missed an open goal from 8 yards for the whole world to see I really hope he doesn't let that damage his villa confidence because to be honest I couldn't care of he starts ahead of lukaku for Belgium or not

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