Aston Villa Banter Archive July 19 2015

19 Jul 2015 19:33:29
Puzzled as to why we are not getting the full payment for benteke as its in instalments

19 Jul 2015 20:03:00
They paid full price mate no instalments mate

19 Jul 2015 20:53:55
Reports are stating that £16 mil paid upfront and the rest in instalments, see below pay structure.
Reports indicate that Liverpool will pay £16m of the fee up front, with the remainder paid in installments over the course of time.
If it`s true I think they have a bloody nerve, I seem to recall they did the same with Downing, are we a soft touch or what.

{Ed007's Note - Very few transfers are paid upfront in full. There's nothing strange about it, this is just the press looking for something to fill column inches and make hit-whoring headlines with a non-story.}

19 Jul 2015 21:12:47
They have paid 16m up front and 16m to be spread out

20 Jul 2015 09:24:44
I think all transfers should be paid up front to stop clubs getting into debt so easily, only spending what they have or can raise from sales would make a lot of sense to me.

20 Jul 2015 17:58:48
My only question about this whole ordeal is surely if you activate a release clause, you should be paying the full fee, otherwise what is the point in the release clause? Surely by doing it like this any team in the world can break Lionel Messi release clause and say well pay £20m now and the other £200m in installments???

19 Jul 2015 19:19:51
Richards or westwood captain for me

19 Jul 2015 20:08:32
not Westwood would not make the starting 11

20 Jul 2015 00:04:31
I'd give it to Clark - He looked a different player last season when playing alongside Okore, and some of his crunching tackles showed he is well up for a fight.

19 Jul 2015 16:38:18
Reports suggesting Brad Guzan up for sale @ Around £3m. Is this likely? Recent reports suggested he will likely retain the no1 spot after missing out on begovic. Who would replace him?

19 Jul 2015 15:41:34
Any suggestions on a new goal keeper? Guzan is a weak link. Doesn't anyone else think so.

19 Jul 2015 17:03:07
Sherwood agrees with you Irishvilla and he is the one that counts, I don't know who he intends as a replacement though. ?

19 Jul 2015 17:55:51
Casper Smiechel, wouldn't be cheap though, missed out big time with Begovic, he's going to rot at Chelski, such a waste of a top class keeper

20 Jul 2015 02:10:31
Wouldn't surprise me if Sherwood bid all the money he had at his disposal for Begovic at the time knowing that it wouldn't be enough but to let him know we were interested. If Villa was ever in his mind he would have held off until more news on the takeover had broken or some sales had gone through. So can't really say we missed out if was never interested. Keeper is a difficult position really - I personally am happy with Guzan but a lot of people aren't. I'm not sure who we could realistically get that's significantly better than Guzan that wouldn't cost an arm and a leg. I would much rather we put the cash into strikers.

19 Jul 2015 15:24:59
Gas looking to sell Guzan for 3mil

19 Jul 2015 12:04:00
I know Vlaar is no longer our player but i have just been reading that he is out till 2016 with a knee opp, boy am i glad we never renewed his contract.

19 Jul 2015 11:07:21
The advantage of having players with experience is that they act as a role model for younger players, and that they use their experience for the benefit of the whole team.

Nothing I have seen from Adebayor suggests he is either a team player, or someone younger players should look up to. However he may have some value as a short term impact player until he gets bored.

I would rather look for a defender or defensive midfielder who has bags of premier league experience and would lead by example. Any suggestions?

19 Jul 2015 12:13:05
Adebayor isn't a role model? Granted he's made some mistakes in the past but the reason he won't lower wage demands is because ge sends a significant chunk back to Togo for charities and community projects. Not a bad bloke to learn from

19 Jul 2015 13:16:19
Ok he is a role model if we want our players to send money to charity but I was talking in a football sense. What sort of example does he set on the field to younger players? Good for half a dozen games then not interested. Forgive me but I am more interested in what a player can do for Villa rather than what he has done for Togo

19 Jul 2015 14:34:24
Yeah I understand where you're coming from in that sense. However under TS last season he was a standout performer, more of that and he can do a job. there's a reson he's played for Arsenal and City just needs to rediscover that.

19 Jul 2015 17:14:18
What about Joey Barton for CDM?

19 Jul 2015 18:02:38
Joey Barton is a very underrated player but getting on a bit now, could still do a job but not for us, think Sanchez might come good this season, got everything going for him but been sloppy with his passing & if he improves on that, we've got a player

19 Jul 2015 09:48:35
Putting it out there. Balotelli? On his day world class, knows the prem, TS got performances out of Adebeyor who has a similar state of mind, would cost around £10m, needs to get his career back on track, Villa fans love an underdog, would raise the profile of our club, I'm finding more plus points than he's a nut job? I'm probably going to get shot down for this, but would love to see some bants about it????

19 Jul 2015 10:24:36
No commitment, and his mental state would be a big issue.
The idea of him coming and playing well, yes please.
But. We all know we don't live in a fairy tail, and that he will come and one of two things, will remain as useful as a chocolate teaspoon, or, he will turn it on, be good, and force a move in January, or next year.
To bug a gamble for me.
However, I do like the idea of adebayor(???dont know how to spell!!))
End of his career is looming, knows ts, knows he has been written off, knows prem, on his day, better than Big Ben.
I see him and kozak working really well!

19 Jul 2015 10:43:17
You're a Liverpool fan aren't you.
I've seen some crackers, but this has to be the most poorly thought out idea I've ever heard on here

19 Jul 2015 11:05:19
There's no denying Balotelli has class it's just that its so sporadic it's risky. Also don't think his effort levels would suit TS's style and his head drops too quickly when things aren't going his way.

19 Jul 2015 11:37:19
Holte Ender since my 1st game in a friendly against FC Twente the season after Andy Gray left. my mum was a scouser tho lol 😄 it was a suggestion, created banter, on a banter site. Think everyone posting ain't seeing the bigger picture, most of the suggestions of replacements for CB are players that have a sell on value, all I care about is AVFC & winning games while being entertained, I personally won't see any profit from buying the next big thing when he gets sold??? If we get taken over by someone with serious money then profit on players wouldn't be the No1 issue. Given the choice, I'd go for Mario Gomez, £7m-ish, proven goal scorer & class on his day

VTID, SOTC

19 Jul 2015 12:01:44
Balotelli !! One player i would not want in my squad would be Balotelli. Don't rate him, Don't like him so i hope Blues sign him now that would make my day.

19 Jul 2015 13:10:49
3 posters actually read what I put, 1 trying to be funny at my expense, opinions are like arseholes, everyone's got 1, & apparently this site.

VTID

19 Jul 2015 13:23:39
If only we'd given Paul McGraph a chance to resurrect his career when he left Man Ure when he was damaged goods. ?

VTID

19 Jul 2015 17:24:15
Some negatives for Balotelli

1) Couldn't score in the league for Liverpool, who have a much stronger team than us.

2) Couldn't break into the first team when his competition was an injured Sturridge and Ricky Lambert. They resorted to Sterling upfront.

3) Will be on massive wages and doesn't seem the type to take a pay cut to get some game time.

4) Negative publicity follows him like a plague, not the type of publicity we need when we are trying to sell a the club

5) His work ethic is poor at best.

6) Every manager he has worked with says he I unmanageable. He made someone as laid back as Roberto Mancini crack - I give it 5 minutes before Tim Sherwood clashes heads with him and we know Tim won't take any bull5hIt from players.

7) The man can't put a bib on .

Have I made enough counter points for you?

19 Jul 2015 17:48:02
Fair enough & good to see somebody actually thinking logically about it, was just putting it out there for debate. I think it's going to be Adebeyor that joins, if that was the case then I'd take a punt at Embolo too, ideally would like Austin but whatever happens, I think we should trust TS, & get behind any player that he chooses, baggage or not

VTID

18 Jul 2015 23:16:03
Nice to see Vlaar making the big step up from Villa that his talent deserves, by apparently living the dream and getting a glamour move to Southampton.
Barcelona, Real Madrid, ManU and Bayern must be gutted that Koeman has somehow beaten them all to his signature.

19 Jul 2015 08:21:40
We all know Ron's favourite stadium is St Mary's wish he would hurry up and pack up and leave with his post Brazil WC over inflated ego! Hope he takes enough books to read when he is having those breaks in the season from playing through injury. Looking forwards!

19 Jul 2015 08:42:11
Least it screws their tight defence up, and secures ours.
Over rated, slow, and inept. Best five words to describe vlaar!

19 Jul 2015 11:08:21
Shame he's out injured for 4 months as per.