08 May 2016 23:13:47
Venture capitalist sounds really cool eh? another name given by those in the industry, is the real one, and that is"carpet baggers", who come in ;and stay as long as a profit can be made for little or no layout (let me think,3 year parchute payments maybe? ), then, if profit starts to dwindle, there could be the scenario of selling assets, and villa's biggest asset, the ground and property around, god forbid this were to happen, but as kingvilla will surely testify, seeing as he has had dealings with the chinese, they'll have no problem selling it off no matter what we say, and so i say, be careful what you wish for, larry ellison is the one we hopefully get, the chinese i wouldn't trust them one little bit, don't trust them
09 May 2016 00:01:47
You are straying into xenophobic territory there mate. Sure you don't mean to but it's sounding that way.
Let's face it. None of us know who it is or could be or if it could happen at all
We also need to face the fact that whoever we get is likely to see us as a business on which they see a possible return (most owners are wired that way)
Also, you are scaremongering. I understand there are specific contractual reuirements around owning football clubs which mean you can't just come in and sell the ground. It would have happened to one of the London clubs by now for certain if you could
I stand to be corrected if this is not the case but I'm pretty sure it is.
09 May 2016 00:24:38
"Venture Capitalist", I understand your concern my friend but I would not believe too much of what the press are reporting on this story just yet. They know nothing to very little so what they don't know they fabricate. They claim they are Venture Capitalists and yet they are unable to name even one of them for certain.
In just a few weeks time the true story will break and you will see the smile return to the faces of the Villa faithful, likewise you will see the smile knocked of the faces of those who mocked and scoffed at our dilemma for the news you recieve will be all good. :-)
09 May 2016 02:26:35
they can be ruthless in business yes to get what they want but to be fare so can any business person. they are there to do well so I'd not get to worried about them selling us off its not going to happen.
09 May 2016 04:35:51
Apologies if it sounded xenophobic, and i hope your right about not being able to sell the ground, but i trully believe the chinese consortiums are bad news, the affiliation to their government is a red flag (no pun intended) for me, i think the word to describe chinese business is ruthless, yes you can say, hey what about the yanks, well, there is a level accountability there, what about the russians, oh yes they certainly are ruthless, but, even they have a rule about not putting their own in harms way, cast your mind back to the build up the chinese olympics i seem to remember they knocked down an entire town/ village even though the people had been told this would not happen, they made a decision and bam, a whole community that had been there for hundreds of years wiped out because it suited them, and the only compensation they got was next to nothing, what about all the trades description acts they flout, the sweat factorys that cause untold suffering (blimey its getting like panarama now! ), if they can do all that and still get away with it, i don't trust them, if i here growling and barking behind me i don't need to get bitten to know there's a dog behind me, that's not xenophobia, that's looking at how they operate and making a decision off te back of it, i don't trust them, and i don't want them in charge of our great club, just my opinion, probably all wrong but it is what it is.
09 May 2016 09:16:52
Getting into global politics now mate which I would absolutely love to do (it's a favourite subject) but this is not the forum for it
Suffice to say, whoever it is we can only hope they are competent and realise that the potential of the club is enormous. If they realise that, have the money to make a few mistakes along the way without being dissuaded, we should be OK; whatever part of the world they come from.
09 May 2016 13:49:05
God i hope your right, i really do, i'm at the point i'm argueing with the dog about it now, and i'm loosing every arguement, smartarse mutt!
09 May 2016 17:06:17
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09 May 2016 18:09:06
My dogs called double entendre, he loves this site!
09 May 2016 19:51:25
I was wondering who was going to do the pussy joke first .
My money was on Flackie though Ed!
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09 May 2016 22:58:31
Ha ha ha, perish the thought.
08 May 2016 21:17:44
I do so love reading press reports, I see that the new owners were at the Villa v Newcastle game so where are the photos to back this up, I'm sure the press would of been camped at Villa Park waiting to get that all important first photo if this was the case. Once again proving that if they have no news they will create some news to sell their papers, truth is they know considerably less than I.
08 May 2016 13:53:14
been doing a bit of digging with my Chinese contacts to see if they have herd anything and there are 3 names floating about over there. Robin Li a guy I know nothing about only he is worth about 10 billion. his name has come up a couple of times. wang jalin has also popped up again but the main name I've been told is citic group. an investment group that tried to buy the stake in man city as did wang jalin but both lost out to cmc. I am praying they right on citic group as there company wealth is in the trillions. look them up.
08 May 2016 15:59:50
Looked up the Citic Group and appears state owned but clearly have income in Billons and assets in trillions! I have now got a headache trying to work out the structure of the organisation! Finance and potential seems massive and being a corporation without single owner seems to offer long term rather than a tycoon like RL with some much individual autonomy and say. Look forward to next few weeks and how pans out. Must get done as European finals will close down a great deal of summer player negotiations.
08 May 2016 18:16:23
CITIC Group are part of the consortium with CMC that bought into Man Citeh, if I'm right that means they cannot invest in Villa too, fingers crossed that it's Wang Jianlin and his Wanda Group, loaded 💵
UTV.
08 May 2016 19:24:35
they are linked yes state money. but the city one was registered under cmc so I'm being told they are still fine to buy us. it's like the city owners brother looked at Liverpool recently and the family wealth is all linked and comes from the same place but he was able to buy here. I will be happy if it's citic, wang, or Robin Li tbh as all loaded. or would of liked ellison. we will soon know anyway roll on when it's done.
08 May 2016 01:52:29
newspaper saying aston villa to be taken over by a Chinese investment group that have studied leicester citys success. 2 weeks till takeover is complete all in the papers nigel pearson will be manager apparently there willing to spend 100 mill on getting asgon villa straight bk up.
08 May 2016 09:03:48
No don't be silly. The £100m is the price of the club, all of which goes to Randy not to a promotion fund. The papers report that they are venture capitalists so don't expect big investment. Venture capitalists typically takeover bloated organisations asset strip them and then sell them in having profited from the asset stripping.
No good news here!
08 May 2016 09:34:35
Yes they asset strip sometimes but a venture capitalist's main goal is to make a tidy profit in typically a five year period when they sell. They are very rarely in anything for the long haul. However, I think the only way they can increase the value of the club by as much as they would want to, would be by getting back into the premier with all my the tv and sponsorship money that would attract. So probably a good thing if it happens but expect them to be ruthless in achieving their goal.
08 May 2016 11:44:38
Does any one actually think we will be sold to venture capitalist come on people surely you don't think hollis will allow that.
08 May 2016 12:04:39
Steve Hollis said the 3 parties they where talking to . had the passion and ambition to return the club to the highest honours in European football, can only hope he's telling the truth, so I agree.
08 May 2016 12:41:16
no there not going to strip us. what they mean by this to put it simple is they invest and look for a growth in value and profit within 5 years. the group that have just bought 20% in man city are investors and so called venture capitalists but they are not looking to take over then strip them are they. they basically see something in city that will grow in value over next 5 years so have bought a stake to make money. hollis said the people want to take villa back to highest trophys in Europe. ie they got us cheap probably hope to spend 200 mil over next 5 years get into Europe then our value is for example 500 mil with the TV money they will make on top they have a tidy profit. that's more the way it will work not strip us to nothing.
08 May 2016 13:56:11
wang jalin also bought 20% in athletico Madrid. same reason growth over next 5 years and money maker.
08 May 2016 16:52:17
Same old pessimistic comments coming from the doubters who know nothing, one person even thought that the £100 million price tag was the amount to be spent on players so need I say more about their wisdom.
Like I told you last week, done deal for manager and new owners and to be announced at end of season. So sit back people, pour yourself a cold one and chill out and wait for the excellent news and don't waste your time listening to fools who have clearly lost the faith in our great club.
08 May 2016 16:59:49
I'll second that.
08 May 2016 17:09:21
Well said kingvilla, not long to wait now my friend.
08 May 2016 19:06:00
What I will tell you all to help end all the confusion is that the logic behind the new owners waiting for the end of the season before taking over is quite simple and obvious really, They do not in any way wish to be associated with the clubs relegation and will therefore be waiting until this season is closed so as to start with a fresh slate, it really is that simple and should you give it some thought it actually makes sense.
08 May 2016 19:57:17
sure does.
08 May 2016 23:01:26
I hope you are right, but I doubt it very much. And on a previous point, of course Hollis is never going to admit that he sold the club to someone who wasn't going to invest to get it back to the top! Not all takeovers are good news, remember Venkys, Vincent Tan or dare I say it Carson Yeung?
09 May 2016 01:36:10
Things have changed a lot since the days of good old Carson Yeung and also Villa are not anything like Birmingham City who in their quest for some glory after having enduring years of living in Villa's shadow were so desperate for some glory that they would of happily of sold the club to Ronnie Biggs, potential buyers these days are vetted far more vigorously and I would like to think that the stupidity shown by Blues was due to decisions made by over ambitious idiots at an over ambitious club and is unlikely to be repeated.