Aston Villa Rumours Archive August 28 2014

 

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28 Aug 2014 18:38:55
Just a couple of rumours.
Lerner re-energised about villa and is ready to push on with the club.

Then there's a rumour that Villa have in fact being sold hense the cash injection Sanchez (possible Cleverley) and will be announced when the window closes (don't see why that matters)

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I can only imagine that the reason a sale would be kept quiet is to avoid having to pay ridiculous money for players just because other teams know you have money to spend. As it goes, I seriously doubt we have been sold but Lerner must have realised that he has to invest to keep us in the prem to make us seem desirable to potential buyers. The Championship doesn't appeal to fans or owners/potential owners.

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I disagree. A perfect time for a buyer to invest in villa would have been this summer. Three brushes with relegation for a club like villa would have been the ideal time for a perspective owner to come in and purchase villa on the cheap (in relative terms). Unless of course somebody with billions wishes to come in and just chuck money at the club, in which case all economics go out of the window. If we have a decent season now (say, we finish top half) what would you expect learner to value the club next season? We would be no more appealing to a perspective new owner than we were this summer.

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The economics of a takeover would mean that any buyer would have to prove that they can "pay" the agreed amount.
Remember the recent sale of a major club?
I think that it was discovered that they had not got all of the money and were going to pay back a loan from money that came in through the commercial side of the business.
A billionaire cannot come straight in and spend silly money as under the fair play rule a club can only invest money taken in, not just because the owner wants to buy a player.
This actually favours the current top 6/7 clubs that have sold players for huge money and are then able to use that money plus what comes through the tills.
Presently AVFC are not selling players, they are giving them away, and not much money is coming through the tills.
I don't like Lerner but he is operating under "strict" rules layed down by Platini who was conned by the big clubs into setting the spending rules. The big clubs were already taking in huge money so the knew that they were Ok under the spending rules.
The lesser clubs, our AVFC, have to improve commercially to generate money and perhaps that is why we have changed our "money man" taking him from Gunners.
Even though Gunners have not won anything they have earned £30/50m just by getting into the group stages in Europe and that is where a club must get to spend big money.
Arguably if we sold Vlaar & Big Ben and got in £40m+ we could spend £70m+.
But that scenario we don't want to see!!

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I agree that this summer would have been a perfect time for a new owner as they would have had time to assess the team and then buy the needed players. But I don't believe we would have been cheaper because of the recent struggles in the league; we all heard that Lerner still wanted £200 million for the club, probably because he wants to try and recoup some of the money he has spent and because he still views villa as a big club. In terms of history, tradition and fan base I agree with this but on field we are not a big club. I think a club like Everton are more appealing as they wouldn't cost too much, they have a great history and they are performing at a much higher level and have a strong base that they can build on. Should we become a consistent mid table club I can see Lerner valuing us at £250 million and price wise we will be less appealing but all owners are businessmen nowadays and they want results with as little investment as possible; we'll need less money if we're mid table than we would if we were in the lower echelons of the league.

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My main worry with the whole takeover and money to spend is this;given the track record of lamberks tranferdealings to date would any real investortrust the man to get the right signings in, or would we field eleven lunars evey week he could well blow the onlyrealnce of propelling the club to where we dream it could go, improving the stadium, record attendancies- anyone remember 1981 the ground bounced on its foundations, EVERY

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Why are posters being disrespectful to PL?
The guy has been told what to do and is doing it. He has not had much money to spend and to some what has bought in some good signings.
Vlaar, Okore and Benteke are all excellent buys, Cissoko & Sanchez are still to be seen and yes most of the others are questionable.
Buy when you have instructions that you must buy cheap and develop you can't shop at W'rose you have to go to Al. I and sometimes you get a bargain.
When name calling I maintain that you should look in a mirror first and see what you see, sometimes it is yourself.

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30 Aug 2014 17:10:33
Hi Oldvillian you must love PL its not just his buys its tactic, have you seen a game at villa park were we have played well under PL and Okore has yet to prove himself

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I don't have any "feelings"for PL, I simply believe that he has followed the directive given to him from "above. " We are not the only team that you could direct your comments about play, try ManU at present, but we have played some good football at times. I know it is not what we want and it will not be until sufficient money be given to the manager regardless of who it might be, but at the moment it is PL. Try and put yourself in his place. Doing what he is instructed yet having fans screaming for him to go. When he was at Canary land they played some good stuff and many fans were delighted when he came to AVFC. I like to think that given the opportunity with real money, he may well produce the goods.

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28 Aug 2014 17:11:16
Bid reported (by Sky) for Cleverly. Bid accepted and believed to be around £8m. Nothing to say personal terms are agreed but sounds promising and suggests there is money for a decent player at least!
Add another wide player with Grealish coming in to the team and things could be looking up!

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If true seems the 10mil stated to spend on fees and wages for players this window was off.

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No no no no no no. please, anyone but him

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28 Aug 2014 19:21:58
omg what a waste of money on an average at most / player which I and many have never rated

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He's had one bad season and that automatically makes him a bad and overrated player? I don't think so, he would be very good signing, and to be fair I'd rather him than Westwood. Champions league and international experience is very welcome.

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With him Delph and Sanchez in the middle it would give us a solid midfield, he is defiantly Prem class and AF saw something good in him?. . Maybe it's a good move for him!

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Ferguson saw something in Djemba, Djemba as well!
It has nothing to do with it

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If Cleverly was a prospect then Van Gaal would be keeping him and Hodgson would select him for England.
For £8m PL could go abroad and get a talented midfield master.

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I AM FED UP OF HEARING THE PATHETIC simperings over grealish, he's a player who could disappear int the same mediocre place that previous young players were expectedstop banging on about him, let him grow and if he is the messiah people IMAGINE he is all the good, but based on what I've seen of the boy, and I've seen him a lot, he is a long, long way off being half a good player, people talk on here about him as though he has 200 appearancies, 100 goals and 40 odd caps to his name. in short, leave him alone

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01 Sep 2014 15:52:18
WARVILLIAN. I agree 100% with your comments about Grealish. The problem we have is converting our academy/youngsters to the "next level". when I say that I mean your Walcott/Bale/Shaw where you get the big bucks for them. and we don't have anyone anywhere near that level. To be honest I can't see anything coming out of our academy for a while :(

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Thanks grea reply and100 percent right, nothing has come through since kevin McDonald left the lub

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28 Aug 2014 13:05:20
Heard jay spearing and Robert acuafresca on villas radar

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28 Aug 2014 14:04:18
Tom cleverly suppose to have had an offer accepted. Got to be better than Jay spearing

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Surprised we ain't been linked with Scott Parker would like to see some cover for super brad. Shay ain't all that anymore

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Scott Parker refuses to leave London and he's past it now anyway

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