Aston Villa Banter Archive October 01 2015 to October 31 2015

30 Oct 2015 18:50:37
Saw a video on Twitter of villa fans on the coach for Southampton, saying they don't want garde, what do they want another clueless manager for and we want someone like Pearson down here. Am I the only one who doesn't know what planet the bloke was on?

31 Oct 2015 18:29:07
Will be really disappointed if we appoint Pearson. I get the feeling Leicester stayed up in spite of him and not because of him.

31 Oct 2015 19:14:56
Living in Leicester, obviously having many Leicester fans, (yawn!) I have a little insight into the said bully!!
They all, to a man, wanted him sacked, even with how the team played, and finished.
Read in to that what you will!

29 Oct 2015 20:20:27
I see we have another player on board who seems to think he has all the answers and knows it all.
Micah Richards has again spoken out about our next boss whoever that might be!
Taken from his quote; Micah Richards admits Aston Villa's next boss must have an instant impact to save them. OBVIOUS I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT
The skipper also believes Tim Sherwood was not given enough time before he was fired on Sunday.
This is not the first time he has spoken out about internal matters, there was that instance with Delph as well, amongst others.
This is a man who needs to grow up, the way he behaved on Saturday was a disgrace for a captain supposed to be setting examples and standards.
Don't upset things any more than they already are.

29 Oct 2015 20:59:32
Dave, he is captain, and faced the media!! If he is asked a question, should he not answer?? He is not Jose!

29 Oct 2015 21:14:25
True Flackie, I am just a bit pi - - ed mate, the way things are and people making statements that we already know.
He was out of order against Swansea thought, that was very unprofessional and has cost us as a club.

29 Oct 2015 21:41:11
I know mate, we all are.
But we all, players and fans, need to stay together. Us against the world. Only way we will get through this hell now! :(

31 Oct 2015 11:44:45
Bit dramatic Flackie.
Beginning to wonder if Richards is all we want to believe.
As for Garde, unproven in PL but then so are a lot of managers coming in to the Pl.
We really are in a mess but can we expect much else as no top manager is going to come to VP.
Would we want another up and coming manager with no pedigree, someone with evidence of success or a genuine top bloke?
The latter, no chance.
Garde has some evidence of achieving, unlike our last 3 managers, so perhaps that is the way forward.
Lerner knows he has to get it right. His credibility is already at zero and the value of AVFC is disappearing before his eyes.

31 Oct 2015 20:09:19
Have you read Wengers comments on Garde in Telegragh today, I know it's not popular but I respect his footballing brain and was encouraged by his opinion. Obviously the Fantastic Mr Fox does as well!

29 Oct 2015 00:12:32
Watched game on line, must say we looked more assured at the back . Creepo &Clark looked much better, Crespo reads the game well and was organising the defence . We looked the better side up until they scored, then of course we had to come out more . We had better of the chances, first half, we just not putting them away . Except for one shot on the turn, Gabby was a waste of time again . But there where things tonight that overall looked better . Keep the faith and up the Villa.

29 Oct 2015 08:37:22
How did Amavi do further up the field?

28 Oct 2015 23:06:31
I seen a stat on tv saying villa players cover the least amount of ground in two divisions so the team isn't even working there socks off to put it right all the teams are getting time an space because we simply can't be bothard to go to the man! Facts are leicester stayed up last year because they wanted it all the players wanted it ask yourselfs the question do villa players want it the league an stats would say different! Now yes its lerners fault an sherwoods fault but there only partly to blame why is nobody blaming the players? Brad guzan as cost us game after game Crystal Palace chelsea swansea man city last season why is there no banners for him out? Gabby agbonlahor Mr Aston Villa where is he why ent he helping? We are a mess but for me players have to take responsibility it's pathetic how they can only play for 1 half! Agree dis agree with me stats and league don't lie! Where gill where 75k a week adam troure.

29 Oct 2015 06:07:32
The stats you refer to make absolute sense! I remember leaving the ground against WBA seething that we were always second to the ball, so slow to react especially to the loose ball. All over the season there has been a lack of closing down and as a struggling side lacking confidence and so skill then what is there left to do! The good villa sides of the past playing top teams would always chase, get at em and not allow sides to settle. Stat is disgraceful but probably reflective of some of the European main land style and how far off our new players are to adjusting to English and PL football! Great post as really gets to the root of our problem! UTV.

28 Oct 2015 22:02:23
Pants absolute pants how long is learner and his cronies going to drag this out either go n get garde and his staff or look elsewhere and please not pearson or dych i'd sooner have hasslebank than either of them but for god sake get it sorted we are becoming a laughing stock, has someone explained to westwood the object is to get the ball between the two white uprights and not over the roof? passing was diabolical can't keep hold of the ball and lost it everytime they challenged for the ball and guzan is not the keeper of old time for a change, was going to say give him to a championship club but we would end up with him back as we are looking like a championship club!

28 Oct 2015 21:21:40
What a pathetic team we have turned into, can't honesty see how we are going to pull this round this time.

{Ed007's Note -

28 Oct 2015 21:38:49
Thats as i said it pathetic,

28 Oct 2015 12:08:33
I reckon mendax and flackie ar lovers or at least have a massive crush on each other. Get a room 😘😘😘.

{Ed007's Note - No need for the jealousy though - did you have your eye on one of them? It's never easy getting your hearbroken but you'll get over it, there's plenty more fish in the sea and all that.}

28 Oct 2015 13:48:21
Hello sailor!

{Ed007's Note - Don't tease him or be leading him on, Flacks, he might just be a young lad and we all know how an unrequited love can scar the heart for years. Mines was Miss Clark, a raven haired, olive skinned ray of beauty who arrived in my life at 14 like a spear through my heart. I can still picture her today, a cleavage you could have camped an army troop in with lovely chunky hips and, ass and dressed in such a way that a teacher probably wouldn't get away with the clothes today.
See all they crazy stories about a teacher seducing a young lad to help her bump off her hubby, that could have been me if she had asked!}

28 Oct 2015 15:49:10
Confession is good for the soul ed!

Think that one should go to readers wife's though!! Haha

{Ed007's Note - Probably one to keep quiet from the real wife though.}

28 Oct 2015 17:33:58
Ed that discription could have been my misses 45 years ago! She still has that same shape though it's just in different places! Lol. ( no need to tell her Flackie)

{Ed007's Note - I bet she's still a fine looking woman though!*

*And any pictures anyone cares to send in will be kept in my private collection.

28 Oct 2015 17:36:09
Steady on chaps. We have a football club to be depressed about here.

28 Oct 2015 18:17:11
Sorry lover!

28 Oct 2015 19:16:53
Ha ha ha.

28 Oct 2015 21:22:00
You want to swap seats Mendax so you can be closer to him?

28 Oct 2015 00:26:36
Haven't been on for a couple of days, so thought I'd catch up on the posts . Some good ones on there, especially about Mr I am now in chargeFox deserving a lot of criticism. read an article earlier saying Fox not wanting one of Gardes back room staff because he's another fitness coach . Also iv noticed villa1980, been on again . I think he is going for the World record amount of disagrees. Iv never seen anybody wind so many people up in all my life (other than Robby Savage )

28 Oct 2015 08:06:28
Well said mate!
Can't believe you almost quoted from malju though, although I kind of agree with what he said, to have someone repost his comments is very frustrating, not only is he my father, I work with him, and sit next to him in the holte, he won't let it go that you did this!! Going to do my head in more than ever!
Very frustrating!! Haha!

27 Oct 2015 21:58:17
Justin Edinburgh odds shortening? From 50/1 this morn to 12/1?

26 Oct 2015 21:50:04
Seems like on here people will settle for anything at villa an have no winners wouldn't want any of you lot in charge doesn't anyone remember when we won trophys an challenged for titles obivously not jesus this is astonvilla not lincoln or wolves or the blues god we are still the fourth or fifth biggest club in england history wise come show some passion i must admit flackie we quite simirlar mate in our views but some of others don't no but i want people to be passionate bout villa like iam it wouldn't bother me if villa were in league two i'd stil go an watch them i'm no part time supporter I've seen the bad times at villa many of times but seen some good times to i remember being at vpark when we beat intermilan in the 90s an going to wembley against man u league cup when we won . and seen venglos taylor olleary nearly take us down so no can crticise me i might go on so be it that doesn't mean i should get crticised enough said.

26 Oct 2015 22:44:30
Villa1980, you seem to get uptight very quickly mate.
There are lots of vry passionate people who post on this site every day, me included.
I was a regular a villa park and away grounds when we were in the third division me old china.

That is part of being a football fan, good with the bad as they say, having said all that it does not make me a better supporter than another man who can only go once a month.
So I don’t know what your point is !

26 Oct 2015 23:47:00
He's tired and emotional Dave
I don't think there is a point.

26 Oct 2015 21:20:21
Flackie, i never boo my team no matter what i get annoyed who doesn't as for wanting the next man to go if we lose, that's stupid talk mate. it could david cameron in charge of villa and i'd still be the same mate. i gave sherwood six months and knew he wasn't right mate, but i'd rather Aston villa get the best then settle for second rate managers like we have had mate.

26 Oct 2015 21:54:52
Sadly, can you see any 'top class' wanting to come here at the min??
Would you??

We need progression, or we just have a moronic approach.

26 Oct 2015 09:01:34
just been scouring all the on line news with regards TS and it seems Remi Garde is the hot favourite, i can see why villa are interested in him, he worked with no money what so ever at lyon had to sell his best players to invest and worked with the young kids from academy finishing 3rd 4th and 5th, he has prem experience as a player and good tactical knowledge so they say, think i would be happy with him over some of the names that's being banded about i even read now is the time to go and get chris houghton or sean dyche! really wtf, someone living in cloud cuckoo land! well whoever gets the job got lot of work to do may the force be with you as i know the villa fans will be!

25 Oct 2015 18:16:56
Who ever new manager is he needs to find the best starting 11 too I'd personally like moyes as he's proven in prem league and done it on a budget but this issue is deeper than manager
My 11 would be guzan until Jan.
Richards okore Clarke amavi
Sanchez
gana veretout sinclair
Gill
Ayew.

25 Oct 2015 18:20:54
I agree, although I think I would be playing grealish for ayew, with Sinclair up top

25 Oct 2015 19:01:55
No place for Traore?

25 Oct 2015 19:09:04
Guzan till jan

Micah okore clark amavi
Gueye veretout
Sinc Grealish traore
Gestede

Ayew an gabby as impact players

Westy bacuna and Sanchez midfield cover

Lescott Hutton defends cover.

25 Oct 2015 19:09:07
Didn't think of that!! Lol!!
Least that proves I'm not sherwoods replacement!!

25 Oct 2015 21:19:53
I'm unsure why Traore hasn't had the chance to play as a main striker. Natural raw talent and blistering pace too.

26 Oct 2015 13:13:37
I still don't know kozak hasn't been anywhere near the squad. have I missed something? Is he injured?

25 Oct 2015 15:28:47
Just read an interesting post from dwight Yorke.
He would love the villa job, is villa through and through, has managed his national side, has done all his badges, and even has sir Alex to lean on for help, and advice.

I'm not saying this would be my choice, or that it would work, but i am saying it would be pationate, exciting, and possibly a bold brace statement of intent.

What people thoughts or views. ?



I remember singing his name on to the pitch, loved the guy, and, apart from Angel, feel we have missed a figure head of his elk.

25 Oct 2015 15:32:24
*brave statement of intent!!! Lol

25 Oct 2015 15:38:24
You might be on to something there he's mr villa an knows the club well mate wot about peter withe and gordoncowans as a combo to villa legends that might also work mate but i could see york ian taylor may be.

25 Oct 2015 17:03:39
dwight Yorke villa through and through is that why he left us for utd, too green for my liking.

25 Oct 2015 17:13:03
Sorry as much as I love Yorke we CANNOT afford to appoint him now we need experience and balls Soz Flackie bud not for me at this time.

25 Oct 2015 17:51:46
Villadaz, not my feelings either mate! Just saw his comments, and reposted!!

I want moyes, could live with Rogers, am intrigued by remi grande. Don't want Pearson or redknap.
But let's be honest, anything is better than what we have!!

25 Oct 2015 17:54:45
And villanick, I'm villa through and through, but believe me, if I was a villa player, and Man U came in for me, at least doubling my wages, guaranteed silverware, I would go.

I'm a realist, we wouldn't compete on that stage, I don't blame him.
Be honest, we all would.

25 Oct 2015 14:12:56
Get moyes in at all costs!
Build team around grealish.

25 Oct 2015 23:15:47
I agree wholeheartedly with the Moyes sentiment, but isn't building a team around one player asking for trouble? Didn't we build last year's team around two specific players who then abandoned the sinking ship because their loyalty to the club was surpassed by their desire for financial gain?

25 Oct 2015 13:00:18
Mendax chill man we all want the same as villa fans we all av problems mate that's wot we get supporting villa I've got bad heart from the last five years watching villa mate lol.

25 Oct 2015 12:41:14
Lerner's record on managerial recruits:
Houllier - left, ill health
McLeish - failure, sacked
Lambert - failure, sacked
Sherwood - failure, sacked

Who's next?

Can't wait.

25 Oct 2015 13:04:04
Paul Daniels - because they're going to need to be a magician. Table as it stands at half-time in the north-east derby - were on the bottom .

25 Oct 2015 12:22:13
Thank you!!


Please bring in moyes!

25 Oct 2015 12:44:14
I was right all along no brainer now for job moyes let him rebuild the club got to go al out an get him.

25 Oct 2015 12:49:38
And that is the most important thing to all us Villa 1980: that you are right all along
Not like we have anything else to worry about is it.

25 Oct 2015 12:51:57
All along?! Lol

We will agree to disagree!! ;)

25 Oct 2015 12:59:57
I hope you are right and it's Moyes but with Lerner it will probably be Bradley.
I wouldn't mind AVB or Laudrup if not Moyes, but I think we might be shocked by who we get.

25 Oct 2015 12:00:30
What great news!
Come on Lerner, get your arse in gear and get us a manager that is proven in battle that will die for the cause, that will put pride in the name Aston Villa FC, league winners, cup winners, European cup winners, league cup winners etc etc.
We the supporters demand that you show the same desire that we do.
Do it now!

25 Oct 2015 12:26:55
For the sake of this season we need a strong manager someone who can produce miracles I'm sorry to say this and pains me to say this, Break the bloody bank and get Pullis in now if not him then for me it has. to be Laudrup all day long.

25 Oct 2015 12:50:53
You've just quoted two managers who are the diametric opposite of each.

25 Oct 2015 13:02:18
They most probably are Mendex but for me these are the 2 for me I feel will get us out the mire we are in ;)

25 Oct 2015 10:36:02
when Timmy signed i said as long as he is half as good as he thinks he is he'll do alright, i hoped he would be, but he hasn't.
he was successful at spuds with a far better squad, but more importantly, like a lot of successful managers it's about the ingredients they bring that make them what they are.
the biggest signing he missed out in the summer was Chris Ramsey, neither are particularly spectacular on their own but together they blend to create a stronger front, the face - timmy. there's no shame in it as its happened to far better managers than timmy (Clough / Taylor) .
foxy and randy might have their ear mufflers but i can assure them that the fat lady is not only singing, but she's coming to the end of the second verse.
we cannot carry on like this, change needs to be exacted now, . sorry tim, but good bye and good luck - the leeds will be available again in 3 weeks time.

25 Oct 2015 06:52:48
That post should be sent to lerners office i agree with everything you said flackie it says every thing wot we have become which is a joke club.

24 Oct 2015 20:00:48
Beware- Rant coming up :

Sunderland haven't lost in the league to Newcastle since 2011. If he gets a result tomorrow, then Big Sam may well cement himself as 'the Savior' and have the majority of fans right behind the club, unlike ourselves. We will then, of course be propping up the league. From the passion forthcoming from this site, it is clear we are all behind the team, just not behind the clueless and rudderless management hierarchy. Whilst ultimate control is with Lerner and the club is up for sale, I don't think any change of management will solve the problem. We need to face the fact that our problem is that we need either A) owners that really just care about investing in the club such that it returns a profit to them and much PR (see Man City for details), or B) - Someone local (a-la Doug) who cares about the people, the region and the club with, ultimately, the success of the club being paramount. Sir Peter Rigby springs to mind, - Birmingham-based and formerly had boxes at VP, built the multi-billion SCC brand across Europe, Responsible for Millennium Point etc, - who has invested his whole business life in Brum and been fantastically successful. Why do we need overseas billionaires to invest in the club when we have our own in the City. I suppose the answer is that they need to be willing to step up and make the investment .

24 Oct 2015 17:46:30
Good bye Timmy good bye. ---Ruby Murray 1954.
How did she know?
Heaven help us if they give a job to Wilkins, we will have to put the posts somewhere near the halfway line.
Could be bottom after SAFC play, what a dreadful situation we are in.
The entire club is in disarray not just on the pitch and unless Lerner can get someone, anyone, then the future is not looking good. I hope the board do the right thing and go along with Sherwood.

24 Oct 2015 16:54:06
Goodbye Tim. Thanks for keeping us up last year but you're just not good enough and neither are some of the players.

22 Oct 2015 17:02:19
For many, many years I have more or less disliked Stan Collymore. I wasn't sure whether it was because he was a bit irritating and arrogant when he broadcasts, or whether it's because he likes to wind people up on twitter and then block them when they dare reply. but deep down, I always knew that it was because of what I feel he "did" to the Villa, in the sense of being a top player, joining his boyhood club and bar a handful of good performances, milk us dry and leave, essentially.

It has also annoyed me in the past when like just recently in his little statement aimed at the club for sacking him. That this is "his" Villa etc and he would get a plane, train, bus etc for them. But yet had the opportunity once upon a time and didn't take it.

However only recently has I started to see things a little differently.
For all those reasons I mentioned above besides the twitter bit, would also completely apply to Gabby Agbonlahor, well except him being a top player, sadly Gabby peaked about 4 seasons ago and has declined rapidly since, yet as a "die hard" supporter just like stan, is one of the highest earners at the club, yet provides very little, certainly no more than anyone else on far less money who don't claim to love the club.


I personally think that if Stan wants to start any little 'supporters group or petition' or do anything to pay the club back it should be to demand Gabby takes 50% pay cut and we use that 30k to bring in another striker in Jan!

Some of you may think I am being harsh but it's just a case of reality, last week on his birthday the mail produced a happy birthday article showcasing ALL his Villa goals to date, I honestly think that is A MUST read article for every Villa fan as I'm sure most of them really don't have any idea just how poor his record is and has been for some time.

You want to try and narrow down the root cause of Villas problems? Look at the common denominators, essentially anyone who has been in a serious capacity there since MON left.

22 Oct 2015 17:42:00
Hi fplmorg.
You don`t have to explain to me about being harsh on Agbonlahor mate.
He has milked Villa for years and is far from being a top player or a legend in my eyes, he has had 2 seasons at best wearing a Villa shirt.
For whatever reason all of our most recent managers have persisted in his name being on the team sheet, why I ask?
I am like you guys, just a run of the mill everyday bloke who loves his family, his pint, and his beloved Villa, but even I can see he ain`t good enough.
Loyalty does not come into this at all, he knows which side his bread is buttered.
I also agree with the rest of you post, well said.

22 Oct 2015 21:55:53
Although gabby isn't prolific he is a handful for opposition teams an creates space/chances for other players. Having met him as well I can tell you he is a top lad. Next time we all sing his name make sure you 2 sit down an be quiet. It
It's obvious the problem is at the top now you 2 are trying to blame gabby. Laughable.

22 Oct 2015 22:24:05
I am not blaming Agbonlahor for our current situation, I am just making a point about a player who I feel is not good enough, it`s my opinion mate.
If that offends you tough, I say it as it is, as fplmorg has pointed out take a look back at his record for us its shocking.

I have met him as well and yes he seems ok to talk too, that does not make him a good player.
And yes as you say the problem is at the top, but it also runs all through the club.
That said you can sit down now and let people make a point, and laugh about it, is that good enough for you?

22 Oct 2015 22:26:59
Better make that 3 mate
Gabby is pitiful. The fact that he is apparently a "top lad" off the pitch has little impact on me.

23 Oct 2015 01:28:37
Yes pretty shocking. Our overall prem league top goal scorer. Really really bad. Show the lad some respect
"Milked villa for years" and you call your self supporters!
Where is the support! Maybe if we didn't have as many doom an gloom merchants watching us we would do a little better. Gabby always try's his best an if a player gives his all that's good enough for me.

23 Oct 2015 14:09:33
I also mentioned our problems were at the top, if you read up, i essentially blamed anyone who has been there for significant time, they all share the blame (some far more so than others) but that's not our only problems. We have problems within our own fanbase. y

Your blind defence of Gabby only goes to prove just how fall Villa as a club must have fallen, if he's a top lad because he gave you the time of day in person, or occasionally he might cause a defence some problems in your opinion still doesn't justify top wages and a regular starting place., he is a STRIKER playing for the club he LOVES and just about averaging a goal every 7/8 games, it's NOT good enough.

Be realistic how many other teams in the premier league would Gabby play regularly for? If he was at a top 6 club they'd have gotten rid 3 years ago! probably to us!

I wasn't blaming the whole clubs state on a player, I never have, I never will, that would be insane.
I am simply adding my own personal criticism of a player that for the most part is protected by the club and most supporters, but for you to retort saying I should sit down and shut up effectively because I'm willing to state my opinion on a website intended for EXACTLY that purpose is just rude.

I am all for supporting the team, I was a season ticket holder for 9 years up until last season! And like I said in a previous post, the least I expect in return is for the club to meet me halfway.

I've heard for many, many years Emile Heskey was a really nice bloke, and two years ago I bumped into him in Brum airport and I can confirm that he is a genuinely humble and very pleasant, but that didn't change my opinion of him as a footballer, or change my opinion of the performances he put in for Villa. That's irrelevant to what his personality is like.

I'm sure Randy Lerner is a really "top bloke" to his friends and family, but what difference does that make to his ability as an owner?

23 Oct 2015 14:11:49
PS. If I played for Villa I would give my absolute all for them every second I was on or off the pitch, it would be an honour just to be there, so by your logic I deserve a contract also.

23 Oct 2015 15:27:17
Yeah, I take it all back; Gabby is the finest palyer to put on a Villa shirt. The fact that he does it for as little as £60 to 70K a week make his efforts even more laudable
I dunno what I was thinking of.
Jesus Christ. (I've stopped talking about Gabby now; just in case you were confused)

23 Oct 2015 15:30:24
P. S : the fact that he is our "overall prem league top goal scorer" is more of a sad endictment of our achievements in the Premier league than of anything else.

23 Oct 2015 19:23:08
I didn't realise we were a top six club sorry I must have had the table upside down. Champions league here we come!

23 Oct 2015 19:37:26
It's not that long ago that we regularly were mate.

23 Oct 2015 20:02:20
Right I'm not going to jump on the band wagon here about gabby
But it does seem he is getting a lot of the blame here
It was those at the top the gave him his over paid wages (I'm sure gabby was picking his lips when he renewed his contract
He played his best football under O Neill and that was out on the wing when he could use his pace
During that time he had a lot of better players around him
As a forward I do think gabby is pretty clueless he needs to be running at defender's
To be fair gabby should have moved on maybe 3 seasons ago he needs a new challenge now
It goes to show how bad we have been under Lerner if he is our top scorer Carew, Bent, these were top notch players and we just let them go so at moment guys gabby probably offers the best of what we have
It think we wasted 50 million this summer.

24 Oct 2015 12:04:32
I would argue that Gestede, Sinclair and Kozak are all as good as, and just as likely to score as many goals as Gabby this season if given the same opportunities. And I might be sticking my neck out here but I wouldn't be surprised if both Ayew and Traore out score him this season too!

However I totally agree it only showcases how far from grace Villa have fallen to have Gabby as our top goalscorer and to think of some of the better players we've had at the club we've let go too easilly whilst keeping hold of him.

21 Oct 2015 06:05:27
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Premier League Disappointments

19 Oct 2015 22:34:50
My prediction (I hope I'm correct)

Moyes to villa 5/4
Sherwood to Swindon 20/1

45/1 double.

19 Oct 2015 09:34:42
swansea, spurs, man citeh then everton can only see 3pts there if we are lucky something needs to change now before its to late 4 in 9 is simply not good enough the longer TS is given the harder it will be for someone else he needs to go before the transfer window he is simply not good enough!

17 Oct 2015 15:37:01
Brad Guzan is terrible. Sherwood hasn't helped the situation either. He said he could go in the summer without having a replacement lined up. So we have to make do wit a poor keeper wit no confidence. Well done tim an brad.

13 Oct 2015 20:27:52
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, No Outstanding Candidates To Replace Sherwood At Aston Villa

13 Oct 2015 21:31:09
Hi Ed I have to say none of those mentioned in your article stand out to me either for me there is only 1 candidate who stands out is Laudrup i wanted him before Lamberk for me I feel he would be a great fit thoughts?

{Ed001's Note - good point, I forgot about him, but there were a few issues when he was here, such as refusing to train in the rain.}

13 Oct 2015 22:59:41
David moyes mate

{Ed001's Note - why would he leave Sociedad for Villa? He has said he loves it there, I mean privately, not talking about what he says in press conferences etc as you can never believe those. Apparently loves the lifestyle. Unless he got sacked, which isn't out of the question, what reason would he have to go to Villa? There is no money or hope right now with Villa and it is up for sale, which almost guarantees the moment it is sold the manager will be changed.}

13 Oct 2015 10:38:16
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new player profile about, Joe Cole

12 Oct 2015 09:14:04
Strachan is a good manager don't want him or brenda rodgers david moyes or redknapp for me or pearson

12 Oct 2015 11:37:29
That's more like it! Lol

12 Oct 2015 16:29:59
Don't want Harry Redknapp anywhere near Aston Villa, as if things aren't bad enough already.

12 Oct 2015 17:13:55
Totally agree! Despite his open hatred towards the villa, he is, and has been for a while, a spent force.
Obvious tactics.
Buys players at end of their careers, or problems at other clubs.

We don't need, or want his 'delboy' dealings near us.

11 Oct 2015 00:57:39
I wasnt just saying them 3 players because they havnt settled well they all havnt settled well that's why we have only won 1 game in 8 games ok sherwoods fault for the stoke game but what about the rest of the games then? You only ever have a sporting direct if the manager isn't aloud to buy he's own players! The newspapers are saying sherwoods got 2games to save he's job now an brendon rodgers will come in facts are there is somethink wrong at our football club you can't keep blaming the managers there tired an borring excuses now 1 min its houllier next mcleish fault then its lamberts now its sherwoods come on whos fault next mine? Facts are this is about the 4th squad we have had so many differnt managers coaching staff etc etc an we are still awful its not sherwoods fault if he brought aywe an vernout an others why don't he play them? Why does he not know he's best team? Answers easy there not he's players! Why have we got a direct of football then what's he's job??? No body should be recommending Sherwood players unless there scouts!!!

11 Oct 2015 01:27:11
Sorry mike, and I hope I don't offend when I say, I think you talk rubbish.

Ask your self why houlier didn't work??
Anything to do with his emotional display towards Liverpool when we played them??
Also, after this, left through ill health.

Or the blue nosed ginger hobbit. He was never, in a million years ever going to fit.

Have an opinion, even flounder the truth as in a youth team member said this or that, but do us the courtesy of, in terms of history, knowing facts.

One more thing, even if, and it's a huge big if, they where not his pick of players. Does that mean he can't train them, give them a game plan, or inspire them to at least try??

He trained youth team football before, did he personally pick these players? or did he take what he had available, and motivate, and train them, who ever they had there?

10 Oct 2015 00:04:14
Just another question are villa stil up sale does anyone know wots going on ????

09 Oct 2015 12:08:50
Success for villa fans now like it lump is or thou we r a big club with a big history big fanbase good academy the fact is the last 6/7seasons we have been in dog fights at the bottom something needs to b sorted this is wot i'd do if i was lerner give big sam or redknapp or pearson a five year contract that's number 1 number 2 avoid relegation this season that's a must i'd back him thou again with 30mil number 3 right i'm going forward to nxt season number 3 villa stayed in prem this where the job starts rebuild the team with are youngster kinsella suliman at the back calder gardner in midfield sellars an green on wings up front robinson and russian hepburn blood all then with proven premplayers to help r young players grow its a risk but a risk worth taking .number 4 we to play good fast paced football i'd play 4-3-3 i think that b villas best formation and has been down the years under mon it was perfect . Number 5 last point make villa park bigger 42thousand not big enough i'd make it 52thousand because there is room to make vpark bigger . that's it done don't think anyone would do my idea but think it would work

09 Oct 2015 14:35:01
We can't sell out vp as it is!!
Let's increase it, to kill the little atmosphere we create at min!
Try to recreate what MON did??
The reason we are in this mess is because if the fore mentioned.

You say we need to stay in this league, I agree, so how do we blood youngsters in now??

I do agree to get a proven manager, on a good contract, with a decent budget, but let's be realistic, honest, and let's not be controversial for the sake of being controversial.

09 Oct 2015 16:31:37
Spend millions on a stadium that we don't fill now rather than spend every spare penny we do have on plugging the gaps in the team ?
Then get in Allardayce to play the kind of footbal that empties stadiums rather than fills them
Stunning plan
Truly inspired

09 Oct 2015 17:11:42
I think that's a pretty good 5 step plan for certain relegation and financial ruin. I really don't understand why people are crying out for one of these mercenary managers(can half understand case for Fat Sam but not Redknapp or Pearson. Its just desperate, we may aswell just reappoint Mcleish at least he has a brief idea of the set up we have!
If Randy Lerner refuses to invest enough to make sure we signed a top striker in the summer is hardly likely to shell out 30/40m in Jan or even dream about expanding the stadium.

I am not directly having a go at your mate, you're entitled to your own thoughts and opinions as we all are, but it seems as though you want change for change sake and are willing to except anything as long as its different to this. Which could be an equally costly mistake.
Whilst i am in total agreement that things need to change, these changes need to begin at the top with the owner. There is no point keep changing the manager without changing the philosophy of the club, which at the moment should read "hang on if you can, if not ah well"

If you look at the success of other big clubs it is because they have a goal, a dream a philosophy that the entire club, coaching staff, players, youngsters and supporters buy into and that is why it works. It helps when scouting players, it helps when coming up with tactics it helps when brooding in youngsters. The whole club should be on the same wave length, and it all comes from the top.

As many have mentioned, exactly WHAT does Randy Lener inspire? Exactly what is Randy Lerner, doing or ever done since MON(darren bent signing aside) left to push the team forward? Or better still even remain stood still? Every year for 6 seasons now we have progressively gotten worse and nearer the drop, with 4 different managers, numerous assistants and coaches and many squad overhauls, the common denominator remains at the top, in america on a sun bed, not giving a shi*

There are a lot of pissed off and passionate people on here and thousands more all over the place and the only way any of this is going to get better any time soon, is when we stop bickering with each other and unite against the common denominator, unite against the owner, change the board, even if the club has to become supporter owned and we only spend the tv money, it will be better than it is now.

09 Oct 2015 19:58:53
I think it would be better at 62000 rather than 52000. That way everyone could have 2 seats. What a ridiculous 5 step plan. Give that silicone chip in your head a wobble.

07 Oct 2015 20:59:47 Wow, I have just read a long list of villa fans arguing over a number of things and I love that we all are entitled to our opinion. The passion that is villa fans show at times really do show us that we can be the best fans in the world. Real fans care, real fans take the time to come on something like this and share their feelings (mostly bad lol) and show the passion required to will the team to Do better. What is mental is that we all have the interest of the team in our heart. We all sit their on a Saturday whether it be at home or in the ground itself and cross our fingers and hope that this is the week we turn it around. Yes, most Saturday's we walk/drive home dissapointed and it can ruin your whole weekend. But we do it because we love the Villa. I have written a couple of posts lately asking for the gloom and doom merchants to keep quiet and support rather than moan. But with every game that passes I find myself shouting that it's not good enough and wanting to moan - but it's only because I care. I try so hard to be fair to the team and look at every positive. I would try and look for the positives in a 0-6 defeat because I want to see the best in the boys. Earlier today I read this article: http://goo.gl/ZZwgXQ Keep the faith, we are called the Villa "faithful"

07 Oct 2015 22:26:43
Well said Mike.

06 Oct 2015 10:39:11
As much as i like TS i think it is time to go, i know we are only just into the season but 8 games and one win? can you honestly put your hand on your heart and say in sherwood we trust? and that he will turn it around? i for one doubt very much and i truly think its time to change and not leave it until we need must wins to survive, i don't want to see us in the fizzy pop league i grew up with villa being relegated all the way down to the old 3rd division we are way to big a club to be even where we are now yes i know chelski are only 4 points above us that will soon change and i don't care about them we are only one of a few who have never been out the premiership with christmas soon upon is its time for a change before our choices are limited ancelotti and deboar are available let's show some ambition for once get back to where we belong and fighting for a championship place. please mr learner look at the writing on the wall you want to sell you want a good price then keep us in the prem. WE ARE VILLA WE ARE LIONS!!

05 Oct 2015 16:15:30
Looking at recent news regarding managers employment ending, is it not time that someone at VP grow a pair and really go for a big one?
Out there are several proven ex managers looking in and hoping that a call comes through.
Not just English managers but proven on the pitch.
Timmy claimed a 50% win rate when he joined but that is now about 5%.
Who fell for his limited average when other clubs passed him over?
Sherwood will not save us so do the decent thing a day put him out of his misery and then get a real manager to raise us to respectable levels.

05 Oct 2015 17:17:06
Just as a matter of interest Oldvillan who would that be?
We do need something to happen and happen soon, timing is going to be crucial here, and I for one am not sure when this should happen, or who we should approach.
I am struggling like we all are as to our current plight, but we all know that any changes at management level will not happen until we are more or less dead in the water.
However I think that time will come before the end of November, my reasoning behind this is our run of matches: Chelsea (a) Swansea (h) Southampton (a cup) Tottenham (a) Man City (h) Everton (a)
The way we are playing at the moment I can only see us getting 1point from that lot, to me that will pretty much be dead in the water.
I do like Tim but I am really concerned about the way things are going.
We looked no better than we did under Lambert on Saturday and yet we had to wait until we went a goal down before any creativity was introduced, very questionable tactics to me.

05 Oct 2015 22:34:05
Dave, we cannot do any worse than we are at the moment.
I would take almost any PROVEN manager in the situation we face.
You know where I feel the problem lies and it will take more than Lerner is prepared to give anyone coming in to get real top coach/manager.
I posted earlier that we need a mean manager prepared to rock the boat and upset some people at the top. Pearson is a bully, I don't really like him but his enthusiasm and overall attitude would frighten a few people.
I am not saying we should jump in and open the doors to him.
LFC had already decided that Rogers was going hopefully top brass have been active the same way.
Don't want a budding manager, I want a man manager.

04 Oct 2015 18:57:33
Wot a surprise when a slated ts everyone said give him a chance now everyones worried like iam an want him out i said from day one he's out his depth if lpool can sack brenda rogers then we can sack tim nice but dim get big sam redknapp pearson or moyes proper managers with tactical brains

04 Oct 2015 21:15:44
Proper Tactical brains?? Pearson and redknap??

My feelings may be swaying on Tim sherwood, but Jesus!!

Have a woke up in an altered universe??

05 Oct 2015 00:12:40
Flackie, words fail with some of this lot on here
To be fair, this bloke is an extreme example

05 Oct 2015 13:04:33
Dear o dear o dear support your team through the good times and the bad that's what makes TRUE supporters not some PRAWN EATING SANDWICH BRIGADE.Villa1980 you said the reason you don't attend many matches was the fact you can't get tickets well thank god for that THAT'S JUST MY OPINION VTID

05 Oct 2015 19:10:05
When reading that the first time though the other day my first thought was why? When was the last true sellout? There's been two empty seats to my direct left for 3 seasons.

06 Oct 2015 20:33:40
Hi fplmorg
You must be sitting close to me mate, there has been two empty seats to my right for the last three seasons.

04 Oct 2015 13:22:27
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04 Oct 2015 10:01:24
I see on other sites that Lerner is the cause of all our problems but this time Sherwood was recommended by Tom Fox a highly respected figure in football so I can't blame Lerner.

I said at the time that signing Sherwood was akin to getting an apprentice mechanic to rebuild a Ferrari engine and have it ready by the end of day.

Sherwood basically had half a seasons experience as a manager, but people said he did wonders with the kids. I think Cowans and McDonald have done wonders with our kids but would you let them loose on the first team, I think not.

Sherwood said our players aren't fit, it is nearly 10 weeks plus at least a month pre season into the season, we have played 10 games in league and cup plus half a dozen pre season games. If these players are not fit or gelling there is something very wrong and I truly believe it is the manager, after all most of the players he bought.

I know he says we have a lot of new players but not as many as Watford and they play better football and have more points.

I say get the apprentice out, along with Wilkins and get an experienced manager in before it is too late.

03 Oct 2015 22:07:30
So the great debate picks up!! Is is a case still of players need to gel or are they not good enough or is it both and the manager is tactically nieve??? Today was awful with no green shoots of players gelling!! The choice of starting line up for a game against fellow strugglers was hard to fathom! I think TS is not far off mowing his favoured 14. As for not starting again with Jack G I really don't understand. When he came on to be fair didn't turn the game like against SHA! What has happened to Gil??? How have web stripped him of all that passion and attacking beat players in front of him??? Now we see short passes to led or right or back??!!

Communication and gelling is way off, very little evidence through team of real P league quality, confidence is waning further and further and TS is coming over as desperate and struggling to fathom what to do.

Quite a fire combination and pattern to break!!! Desperate for a win anywhere!!

I am really worried and it still being early days is wearing thin. Look at who we have played over first 11 games. It will be typical villa if we get a couple of shocks with the next hard fixtures but won't hold my breath!!! Will never boo but need more to cheer UTV

03 Oct 2015 22:50:21
i think one the main problems could be solved quite easily by doing the obvious, playing kozak he is a proven goal scorer i thought kinda the reason we bought him, after that then work on the rest and as most say i think westwood sitting a few out might chnge our direction of play

03 Oct 2015 17:54:40
I have backed Tim Sherwood all the way from the time he became our manager until today.
I do think his team selection at times leaves a lot to be desired, but today for instance I was speechless.
He must surely know which is his strongest line up, it is time for him to pick a team and stick with it and give them time to gel.
He has not played the same team twice, and if you look back we have not played 45 minutes of any game the same, (ok first half, poor second half) (poor first half, ok second half) its not good enough.
We are starting to pass sideways again and take too long with our build up.
It is clear to me that Gil must be in the starting eleven, and go from there.
Things will have to change soon Mr Sherwood or we are going to be up to our necks in the brown stuff.
I am not one to panic but we could be cut adrift after our next 3 league games, look at the fixtures for us and teams down there with us.

03 Oct 2015 18:42:43
im past caring now. got to say that most of these games are lost due to tims tactics and changes. just once i'd love to see veretout and gana in midfield without westwood running around not breaking up play or not creating play. what is his role. the goal we conceded today was shocking I've never seen a defence that open wasn't a great run or a great pass just a massive hole. why has clark been dropped for lescot now Crespo. okore hopefully will come bk now tht he is fit.

Richards - okore - clark - amavi
veretout - gana
traore - gil - grealish
gestede


id probably even put kozak up front haven't seen him at all this season but I watched every pre season game and he was on fire and his hold up play was excellent.

Richards isn't a centre back and will never get back into the England team as a centre back so jjust go back to your position at right back were we are clearly struggling

03 Oct 2015 19:27:55
I like look of this team

03 Oct 2015 16:25:24
Worst Villa team in years. Cannot believe how Sherwood is still in charge. £40m+ wasted in Summer. Where the hell is Traore??? He's spent more time on the physios couch than on the pitch. He clearly doesn't want to play and is regretting signing.
Why was Grealish on the bench from the start?
We're simply not good enough.
Relegation will be a relief for this sorry club.

03 Oct 2015 17:00:22
It's one thing to be unhappy and express your opinion about it
It's quite another to just make stuff up in a frenzy of zenom and hyperbole
Traore is injured. To say he doesn't want to play and is regretting signing is something that you don't know, are not in a position to speculate on as such, sounds absolutely ridiculous
Keep to the facts; it's not like they exactly need embellishing is it ?

03 Oct 2015 17:09:55
Many posters stated that Paul Lambert was useless, no idea etc etc.
What has this guy got? FA!
50m spent in 3months but he is incapable of doing a simple jigsaw.
Some good players came in but seem to have no guidance.
I don't like the man but Pearson could put some steel into the side. He was a bully as a player and even as a manager. We don't need a nice guy we need a mean bastard to remind the team of what is required.

03 Oct 2015 17:26:12
Facts? Here's one: Worst start in league since 86/87 season which, by the way, was last time we were relegated.
Unhappy? Not really just an air of inevitability about it all and a bit sorry for all the true fans who give up their weekends (and hard earned cash) to watch that rubbish.

03 Oct 2015 17:40:03
Quoting a fact that is true, and not something anyone would deny, doesn't make the other fiction you spouted sound any less ridiculous
Anyway, we can both agree on one thing. This kind of display is not acceptable
Whether simply getting rid of Sherwood is the answer, I'm not sure
There has been a lot calls for Allardyce (not for me) yet he has endured similar runs of form with West Ham to that we are enjoying with Sherwood
A time for cool heads, on the pitch, behind the scenes and on the terraces
Booing a team off solves nothing

03 Oct 2015 18:10:23
Maybe I'll show a little less "zenom" before I post next time.

03 Oct 2015 18:17:15
Ha ha ha
Yeah, sometimes you wish for an edit button on here

04 Oct 2015 20:11:45
oldvillian don't often agree with you but on this one yes pearson would be a good choice same as you I don't like him

03 Oct 2015 16:11:32
What is going on?
Half time and hardly an effort on goal. Sherwood is out of his depth but the way we are going he will be useless in the championship as well.
If he can't get the team to shoot at goal what can he do.
Our club is being destroyed in front of our eyes by totally inept management throughout.
From the very top the lifeblood of AVFC is being drained away.
The usual people will accuse me of being negative.
Bo. A. s.
For too long we have suffered with an owner who has lost interest. He seldom see VP and leaves everything to his minions.
We deserve better. The faithful that regularly pay our hard earned money to watch a team that seems to have no spirit and little positive attitude. If the management were wage earners working for a boss in the real world they would have had final wzrnings.
I want to be proud of my team, your team, our team but someone at the top is not helping us fulfil our dreams.

03 Oct 2015 16:19:19
Spot on oldvillan, I never wanted Sherwood, grateful he kept us up but he seems to have no clue. He seems to have no idea who is best players are and never plays a settled side.
I believe he has to go or we are doomed.
I know that a certain few will shout both of us down but i care more about the club than the bullies.

03 Oct 2015 16:36:32
Shocking performance. Players have absolutely no confidence in themselves or Sherwood.
Get him out now!!!

03 Oct 2015 16:37:14
Spot on you 2, this manager as no idea how to motivate a team, nobody will take the game on and gee up the players. most if not all of them don't know they are allowed to shoot. this i'm affraid is the season we drop.