Aston Villa Banter Archive November 01 2016 to December 01 2016

 

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01 Dec 2016 17:01:01
Rip to all those who died in the air disaster.

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01 Dec 2016 17:37:33
Here, Here well said.

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30 Nov 2016 12:56:55
Question time people what's the best away ground you have been to for atmosphere?

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30 Nov 2016 16:29:06
Parkhead. The mighty Hoops v Rangers.
One of world football's great local derbies.

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30 Nov 2016 22:28:51
Agree Andy pf and everybody that has been there will tell you the same.

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01 Dec 2016 11:14:07
Where does villa park in your opinion stand for top atmospheres week in Week Out?

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01 Dec 2016 15:49:32
Villa Park is a fabulous ground and great when we are doing well, but on a week in week out basis it rates no more than ok.
The problem is we seem to need a request form whoever to up the atmosphere, it should not be like that.
Back in the late 50s, 60s 70s and 80s the atmosphere was electric nobody asked for it, it just was.
Don’t anybody say we are the best supporters, we are far from it, we are up there yes but that’s all.
Reason: we are never satisfied.

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01 Dec 2016 16:04:42
Very intresting view mate i agree at times villa park can be flat but in them years you mentioned it was standing which i think gave football grounds more atmosphere.

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01 Dec 2016 17:13:22
Yep can`t argue with that.

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01 Dec 2016 21:08:44
When those in the stands started to stamp their feet the whole ground erupted.
Seating and concrete have reduced the Villa Park stamp.
Could we have a regular big drum, a hunting horn etc etc?
Also we need a terrace cheerleader to maintain enthusias. Someone that does not despair.
Who is up for it?

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01 Dec 2016 23:03:12
Drums tend to be for small clubs.

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02 Dec 2016 10:51:28
We don't need drums, horns cheerleaders or any other kind of razzamataz.
What we need is to build a successful team and club.
With the Doctor and SB this is very possible . The club is well supported already but success will bring enough people back through the turnstiles th fill our famous old ground every match.
Then listen to the noise!
AV 4 LIFE.

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29 Nov 2016 09:01:50
How about Berahino on loan till the end of the season boys?
To me it might just make sense. His contract with the Tesco bag snatchers is up at the end of the season. So it would a a real opportunity for him to get his name back in the headlines for the right reasons.

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29 Nov 2016 10:19:44
I can see why because the talent is undoubtably there but I think 1 problem player is enough an we've got Gabby so I'd rather see someone with more professionalism coming in, not turning up a stone overweight.

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29 Nov 2016 19:10:13
We don't need another forward. And if we did, we wouldn't need another one that is overweight with an attitude problem.

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29 Nov 2016 20:51:12
And if we did need one of those, obviously we'd put 'Mr Still Know It All' up front ;)

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29 Nov 2016 22:53:16
Just for that iam not buying you a pie mate lol. UTV.

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30 Nov 2016 00:31:24
Good to hear everyone's opinions 👍👍.

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30 Nov 2016 10:51:54
wouldnt say no but its not what we need.

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28 Nov 2016 22:48:15
Hi everybody just interested to hear your views on who should start against Leeds? Rudy gestede And Ross McCormack need game time. Because when kojia an ayew go we don't need 2 guys coming in struggling with match fitness maybe try an integrate them in the team so they hit the ground running in january. Ross McCormack against his former Club could be a good 1 to start. Also would anybody keep faith with westwood against leeds? I mean its 2 goals now preston an cardiff for me the lads not learning from mistakes! My prediction leeds 2 villa 3.

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29 Nov 2016 08:27:19
SB will probably stick with the same starting team, depending on injuries. Westwood is trying hard, you can't fault his effort. And I think he has improved slightly under SB like a few others.
We go to Leeds in confident mode . We will be roaring our boys on even if we go a goal down.
There's a long way to go yet but things are certainly improving week by week.
COME ON YOU LIONS.

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29 Nov 2016 10:26:40
I think he will continue to play this 4-5-1 with three in the middle as when we're under pressure it gives us 5 across the midfield and when we're attacking it springs into a 4-3-3 with the wide men pushing onto the wings. However away from home I think what he will do (and quite sensibly so) is go back to Jedinak Gardner and Westwood, 3 proper centre mids as it means we will run games and not be overrun. Then at home he will have say Jedinak and Westwood in there and grealish who although he does sit in when he has to he's given more freedom to push forward. Bruce's record speaks for itself he knows how to get results and if he has to take a draw because heavy not willing to risk it and lose at somewhere like Leeds he will, so I expect a similar team to the game vs Brighton and grealish and a few others to come on second half. I don't think they'll be too much of a change in personnel because the lads are getting results but we saw Saturday he does want to get gustede and the like minutes so their ready for when the other lads go so I think we'll see McCormack and gustede at some point! Ideally we're 3-0 up first half and we can get Hepburn Murphy 30 minutes or so!

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28 Nov 2016 12:37:53
That's what you call team spirt, Codjia letting Rudy take the pen. Codjia explained it was to help build Rudys confidence up, what a difference, attitude. wise to some of the big time Charlie's we have seen . Onwards&Upwards Villaforever.

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28 Nov 2016 13:24:14
The only thing disappointing is Gabby playing over RHM/ Green/ Gestede (Sometime) .
I hope Steve will use them and they can make impact like Grealish.

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28 Nov 2016 11:22:10
Hi EDs,

Why don't you start real time live chat system during live matches.

It will be helpful for fans like us who is following from other continents (Without any streaming most of the times) . Plus page usage will also increase.
Just a suggestion.

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{Ed001's Note - we do on some sites and it does nothing for page usage at all, just seems to draw in the worst kind of fans who want to abuse each other and their team's players constantly. If there are enough people who want it, we would add it here as well.}

28 Nov 2016 13:19:52
Well that's bad. I was saying because I thought it would be nice if we get to chat while the match is going on (Not in abusive way) .
Don't know about others but VillaSA, IrishVilla etc would want it, I think.
Can you take a poll and see? if you can.

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{Ed033's Note - Villa Live Chat poll.

27 Nov 2016 14:24:11
Yesterday was my birthday and what a great present watching my boys beat a very tough cardiff team. Westwood was poor again needs to go. My favourite part of the game was When Jonathan Kodjia went round a cardiff play and stopped to laugh never seen that before lol. Was one we needed to win in the summer we spent 50 million in jan we are rumoured to have another 25 million 75 million to get out the championship with our team playoffs is the least i expect. I don't know whether it was just me but when Gabby agbonlahor went through one on one I knew he was gona miss his trying but not good enough. UTV.

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{Ed007's Note - Happy birthday ya auld codger!}

27 Nov 2016 15:09:53
Thanx ED007'S iam just delighted that this forum is here so everybody can air there views all the eds do a fantastic job. Only downside of my birthday was birmingham city winning again i keep getting this feeling playoff final Aston Villa v Birmingham City. Would anybody take that now?

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{Ed007's Note - You're welcome mate and thank you for the praise (yes)

27 Nov 2016 16:58:51
Hi mskia, the times I have said it on here, Agbonlahor ain`t got a clue, he will fluff 9 times out of 10 one on one.
Did it last week, and missed a penalty as well, Blimey I wish I could get 40 - 50 grand a week to do that.
He has to go, January would be great.

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27 Nov 2016 17:50:11
Bye the way Happy Birthday mate.

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27 Nov 2016 18:03:59
Happy birthday Mr SKIA . Glad our boys gave you a nice birthday present.

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27 Nov 2016 19:45:04
Happy belated birthday greetings mate.

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27 Nov 2016 21:15:11
Special thanx to all who wish me happy birthday let's hope we can beat leeds now! I do have a qwick question for all you legends. where is jordan ayew best position?

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27 Nov 2016 22:04:27
Happy birthday Mr. SKIA, and I hate agbonglahor and when that ball went through (brilliant pass from grealish btw) I had the same feeling, however when you watch it back he did the right thing wasn't just unlucky, so I don't think 9 times out of 10 he'd fluff it, 9 times out of ten the keeper don't pull of a worldie and that goes in! But at the end of the day karma comes back around and he isn't going to get any luck after the things he's done!

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28 Nov 2016 17:27:06
Chris, me and my son who is 34 have a set bet that has gone on for years.
If Agbonlahor is through the bet is on regardless £1 he will £1 he won`t out of 27 bets I have won 24, my son has won 3.
Work it out for yourself mate.

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28 Nov 2016 18:59:17
Mate I said myself I don't like him an didn't think he'd score, but there's no denying that was a brilliant save! Also how long has this bet been going because he's scored 20 in the last 4 seasons (prem goals) so surely your just having one over on your lad?

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28 Nov 2016 19:59:04
My son ain`t that daft chris, very hard to put one over on him mate ha ha.
Been doing it since 2009, works out to about 4 chances a season, not a lot really, but he should do better he is a professional footballer for heaven`s sake.
I would always back against him one on one, no technical ability at all.
You are right the keeper did make a great save admitted.

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28 Nov 2016 20:04:34
Ohhhh you meant one on one, I thought you just meant goals, yea when you think back Gabbys goals never really come one on one, used to be in a packed penalty area or someone passing across the box to him.

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26 Nov 2016 21:54:14
Another 3points towards being back where we belong . Jedinac, Amarvi and Chester where brilliant, Jack got better the further forwards he got . Westwood was his usual self, he's not strong enough . Westwood has no spaceial awareness at all, when receiving the ball, he dosent know what's about him at all, that's why he always gets dispossessed . Alberts celebration dance was outstanding HaHa, he must have been practicing that one for ages . Who on earth was that Ref, he was making it up as he went along, some of the rulings he made, iv never seen before . Bring on the Leeds, I'm back to enjoying my matches again, it's a long while since the next match can't come quick enough . Onwards&Upwards Villaforever.

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26 Nov 2016 22:49:16
That assessment is just about spot on mate, although I thought grealish was class wherever he got the ball, they just couldn't deal with him! If the ref had a clue and some balls they would have finished with 9 men or less! Don't know what Westwood does in training because every manager backs him, and all his got is a good range of passing, and event then 90% of the time it's sidewards or backwards!

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26 Nov 2016 21:32:03
Neil Warnock waited in the tunnel for grealish today and had a go at him? What a melt if his players just accepted they couldn't handle him and not take him out to make up for it there wouldn't of been a problem! If the Ref had a clue what he was doing there would of been more than 1 player sent off, as grealish kept saying there was 2 lads who had already been booked and then went on to foul him 3 or 4 times only for the ref to bottle it and give the foul but not a second card! Their centre back number 4 after he gave the pen just patted grealish on the chest and jestured to say "well there's nothing else I can do, fair play mate" if only warnock had the same attitude! Grealish and Amavi was a different class today, took our foot off the gas when we went 3-1 but could of been 4 or 5! Brilliant performance UTV!

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27 Nov 2016 12:15:28
When he's on his game Grealish is difficult to deal with. He's got silky close control good vision and a great first touch. All these things frustrate opponents and that's why they end up roughing him up a bit.
On the other hand he does tend to go to ground quite easily, like a lot of modern players. So we have to understand when old timers like Warnock get annoyed.

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27 Nov 2016 22:08:03
Your right Andy but yesterday their is no doubt they set out to just clatter him, it was right from the off, Warnock disagreement wasn't at him going down (from what the mail put up) it was him gesturing to the ref for bookings, but some of them lads was on yellow cards and then went on to foul him 3 or 4 times and the ref would give the foul but bottle the second yellow! Their number 17 for example, it was ridiculous, the fact that the refs in this league look up to the ones in the prem tells you all you need to know, can't remember one good ref so far this season!

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26 Nov 2016 17:25:36
slowly slowly, catchy monkey. another win under the belt and the big two dropped points again. we can still do this with the right buys/ loans in jan.

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26 Nov 2016 20:52:45
I do wonder what the anti Bruce brigade are saying now?
I do wonder if they would admit that they were anti Bruce when his name was first put in the frame?
But regardless, whatever he is feeding the team, I want some!

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27 Nov 2016 00:59:10
Im pretty sure he was my call in the summer and when we sacked the other fella off i wanted bruce then too iff just for the defender in him to sort the backline out. and looks like it might have worked.

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27 Nov 2016 12:24:33
IMO the only people against his appointment were those fools that hated his Nose connection. And if we go through a bad patch they could even rear their heads again possibly.
I would remind them of what SB said on the 21st October ;
" I have waited 20 years for a job like this ".
He's a proven manager that knows exactly what he's doing. We should trust him .

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25 Nov 2016 22:08:41
So another average player has a dig at our club I hope we ram them words down these average players mouths and reclaim our place at the summit of the English Premier league #WINDYOURNECKSIN.

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26 Nov 2016 17:53:11
i think i missed something. who said wht.

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26 Nov 2016 20:46:55
Murphy on talk sport.

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27 Nov 2016 12:49:51
when you said average was expecting someone touch better hahaha.

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24 Nov 2016 20:08:39
ASK Athens end Lescott contract!
That didn't take them long.
Only wish we had done that a long time ago.

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23 Nov 2016 09:32:27
So out of the whole squad who do we think, if anyone, will be hard to hold on to? I think ayew will always gather interest but should stay, Kodja may get some but he hasn't been here long enough so I don't think he'd leave, they reckon Gollini is wanted but I think it's to early for Juve. The hardest one will be Amavi I think, his getting back to his best and with 6 games before Jan if he keeps performing the way he has I think he will go, but force them for loads of cash then spend it all, Robertson from hull would be a good replacement!

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23 Nov 2016 10:24:58
I actually for the 1st time in a long time think we have a happy camp. Out rudy gestede micah richards even mark bunn but apart from that the rest will stay even gabby agbonlahor.

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23 Nov 2016 15:22:16
Would love to see bunn go his dreadful but with Steer injured can't see it ATM. Don't think we will get rid of Micah because he's good cover.

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23 Nov 2016 16:57:29
Gabby will stay but who would want him.

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22 Nov 2016 17:46:25
Right people weekly prediction as we all know neil warnock as given cardiff a boost an to be fair they have some good expierence players but iam going 4 a villa 2.1 win what's your thoughts people?

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23 Nov 2016 17:04:46
A Villa win 2-0. But if Villa play like they did in the second half against Brighton it will be more.

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21 Nov 2016 18:52:06
1 player on your Christmas wish list form the championship who would it be and why?
Mine would be shelvy from Newcastle
Think he is the best mid in the league great vision and a great passer of the ball and gets a few goals aswell
Plus loseing him would make them that bit weaker.

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21 Nov 2016 20:08:58
Great shout mate but newcastle are top of the league can't see him joining i would like dwight gayle we should of had him in the summer but we decided to go for a 30 year old striker instead an pay over odds lol. But to be fair what ever we buy my prediction is newcastle top villa 2nd i know you might think iam crazy but we are the 2nd best team in this league could of been the best if bruce was here at the start. Failing that barry bannan back would be great.

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21 Nov 2016 22:22:48
Was the question unrealistic signings? Because we won't be able to sign either of them and if so are you rating them two above Messi and ronaldo lads?

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21 Nov 2016 23:30:41
Last time I checked messi an Ronaldo were not plying there trade in the championship. I'd try our luck with robbie Brady to play in front of Amavi also like assombalonga and forrestieri.

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22 Nov 2016 07:12:00
I was quite impressed by Knockheart last Friday, would be very happy to see him in front Amavi.

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22 Nov 2016 10:47:14
IMO Shelvey is the best midfielder in Championship by a country mile.
So if Santa was going to bring Brucie a player it would have to be him. Hopefully, when Jonjo jumps off Santa's sleigh outside Villa Park, Westwood would jump on and get dropped off back at Crewe .

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22 Nov 2016 12:17:55
ahhh fair enough i missed the from the championship bit, would love brady forrestierri or knockeart but can't see them coming if their above us and don't think knockeart will leave brighton any time soon no matter what the situation.

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22 Nov 2016 12:18:52
Will Hughes would be my buy, realistically able to get him and he creates plenty, put him in the middle with players making the right runs and he could be our playmaker.

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22 Nov 2016 15:45:34
Will Hughes or tom Cairney off Fulham. Need a right back though. Think elmohamady off hull will happen in Jan.

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21 Nov 2016 11:57:15
What does everybody think of the new Jonathan kodjia song? Those who ent heard it goes like this. all you need is Jonathan kodjia Jonathan kodjia in theme to radio ga ga.

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21 Nov 2016 13:46:18
Why?

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21 Nov 2016 13:55:47
Just wondered flackie because he hasn't really got a song and heard this at brighton his 1 of our best players he needs a propa song. Iam loving steve bruce song at games if you have good songs makes for better atmosphere.

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20 Nov 2016 17:55:27
I think we should go for kasper dolberg from Ajax one he young plus he going to be a top top player he got everything also he would be cheap compared to if we wait.

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20 Nov 2016 20:17:28
Who does if we wait play for?

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20 Nov 2016 20:50:35
You beat me to it Flacks, love it lol.

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20 Nov 2016 09:09:36
Just a quick question Steve Bruce has transformed us in a couple of weeks and villa is his biggest job so far how come he hasn't been managing the likes of united or even the English team every player that had played under him speaks so highly of him.

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20 Nov 2016 11:12:11
Thats life mate some people get the breaks some don't but he also has two relegations on his record aswel. Iam just glad so far its working for us but we must cut draws out because all tho we was great it was only a draw where teams like bham won again.

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20 Nov 2016 13:40:11
Welcome back Mr SKIA I agree with you. Did you meet the man of your dreams in Brighton?
We are getting better all the time with SB. And there's definitely more for us fans to enjoy especially away from home.
However we are still relatively low scorers. We need to be more ruthless in both creating quality chances and putting them away.
Hopefully SB can put this right in January with 2 TOP quality signings.

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20 Nov 2016 14:25:07
Had great weekend mate thought we was fantastic iam actually enjoying watching Aston Villa again. 1 down point the train back into brighton was a nightmare. No didn't find the man of me dreams mate even had the wifes shoes on aswel lol. seriously tho do you think bruce knows already who he wants? jordan mutch was mentioned former birmingham city player. Fans was amazing again 12 man.

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20 Nov 2016 21:22:02
I'd be amazed if SB doesn't know who he wants in January. I think he probably knew within a fortnight of taking over at VP.
I really think we can mount a serious challenge in Jan if we make 2 or 3 good signings.

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21 Nov 2016 15:35:45
I heard he was promised a decent amount for January but I wouldn't be surprised if we get a golden oldie in the middle, someone with a bit of class at the end of their career, SB has gone that route a few times over his career.

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20 Nov 2016 08:58:24
Gabby is awfull more cards than goals offers nothing.

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20 Nov 2016 12:24:18
I have to agree Dj, he was clean through on Friday and fluffed again didn`t have a clue what to do with it, he missed a penalty for the under 23s last week.
He is trying and making an effort, but that alone is not good enough.
Effort and enthusiasm do not equal quality.

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20 Nov 2016 13:42:08
I'll probably get loads of disagrees for this. But I feel that we are watching the end of his career. Just my opinion.

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20 Nov 2016 14:05:38
When he went through he's got a centre back backing off from him in the box I was just praying that he'd run him, knock it on and blast past him like he would of done 4 years ago, force the defender to either take him out or just let him get past. Instead he cut back onto his right and tried to shoot too early, the centre back just blocked it easy. His effort was there Friday but it just begged the question is the player gone now, I think Bruce wants to get him back to his best and he will give him game time it's just about Gabby now not being a waste of space and getting match sharp and clinical again. Effort and movement was decent Friday but that was it, needs to make more chances and be clinical when people find him, especially against the likes of Brighton.

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21 Nov 2016 15:38:31
Could Bruce be putting him in the shop window? What's the best way to sell something? Get it in as best condition as possible and pray for a bid? It would definitely free a few quid on the wage bill.

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19 Nov 2016 23:33:39
Well people back from brighton today I thought we was superb great weekend there. Met the players an mr. bruce which was great. Gutted we didn't get 3 points but if we play like that the rest of the season we will be up there. I kinda don't want to go up tho i think we are all having more fun in the championship! UTV.

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20 Nov 2016 13:45:20
I know what you're saying. It is more fun. I'm loving the away days especially.
But we DEFINITELY must go back to the Prem so our super new owner can realise his dreams.

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18 Nov 2016 21:43:07
Could have won it maybe should have I'll take a point we played really well I have to say we look a lot fitter in the last couple of weeks I taught gabby done his bit but grealish is head and shoulders out best player if he could get his attitude right and realise it's only a short career he has the boy could play with any team in the premier league all in all a good night's work.

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18 Nov 2016 22:26:56
I agree Mick . All in all a good performance. We have some good players.
I thought Jedinak, Adomah and Amavi were particularly outstanding. Kodjia unlucky not to score. Ayew and Grealish were also classy when they came on.
SB still unbeaten at Villa! 😂😂.

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20 Nov 2016 09:12:20
I think kodjia is top class and I hope we can hold onto him rdm signing weren't bad he just couldn't motivate then for some reason.

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17 Nov 2016 19:26:43
Note to all Eds.
Is it possible to place a post on the site of every club?
FIFA are preparing to charge the FA
for wearing poppies in the game with Scotland. FIFA request at the moment is "respect" but They show no respect for the many nations that lost men in the great war.
FIFA controls football throughout the world and should be ashamed at there proposed actions.
I am writing to FIFA tonight, address on Internet, to point out that they are not showing respect when the world is showing respect.

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{Ed001's Note - it is possible, if you reply to this post with the message you wish to go on all the sites and I will pass it on to Ed033 to do so.}

17 Nov 2016 21:42:36
FIFA are showing us a lack of respect regarding our national teams wearing a poppy to remember the members of the forces of all nations that gave their lives so that people like FIFA could make these stupid decisions
FIFA address is available on the net and we can write to tell them that they are showing a lack of respect to the people of the world.
Oldvillan.

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17 Nov 2016 22:49:11
Well said mate
That address is

Fifa-strasse 20
Zurich 8044
Switzerland

Wish as a nation we could break away.

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18 Nov 2016 00:31:06
Some people are just plain ignorant of the magnitude of the sacrifices made to keep our countries free. Today marks the 100th anniversary of the end of the battle of the Somme where over 1 million men were killed or injured, enough to fill Villa Park 25 times over. Those brave men in the trenches weren't fighting for some political, religious or ideological cause, but for their families back home and the men next to them, even in the face of unimaginable horrors and almost certain death.

I have had the fortunate opportunity to read my great uncles war diary which he snuck through various POW camps after being shot down behind enemy lines and captured in WW2. The overwhelming feeling you get from reading about these men first hand is that they were no different to you or I. They loved talking about girls and the football (Sadly no mention of Villa, just Everton and Accrington Stanley) and wanted nothing more than for it to all be over so they could just go home back to their loved ones and their normal lives.

So for some corrupt organization to claim its racist or insensitive to wear a mark of respect for that sacrifice is abhorrently disrespectful.

Thanks for fighting the good fight Oldvillan. Some of these people need a history lesson.

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18 Nov 2016 00:49:18
I found the extract I was thinking of:

Yea: every grade was there which had no thought of ascending higher than were their couch did await them. And did arise there from each morning albeit with sadness. Such would talk of the flick and of that known as football + billiards and suchlike. And the greatest of these was football. So would these youths talk learnedly of Plymouth Arg., Everton + the Robins + they would talk anxiously of relegation + the third division.
This shall our childrens children learn was the youth of Eng. And they were peaceful and did sing songs + did tell also of her known as little Angeline.

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18 Nov 2016 00:50:06
And this poem:

It’s easy to be carefree, when everything’s OK.
It’s easy to be cheerful, when you’re having things your way.
But can you hold your head up and take it on the chin.
When your heart is nearly breaking, and you feel like giving in.

It’s easy back in England, amongst the friends and folk.
But now you miss the friendly hand, the boys, the songs, the jokes.
The road ahead is stony, and unless your strong in mind.
You’ll find it isn’t long before your lagging far behind.

You’ll have to climb the hill boys, it’s no use turning back.
There’s only one way home, and that’s off the beaten track.
Remember you are British and when you reach the crest.
You’ll see a valley green, old England at its best.

You know there is a saying, that sunshine follows rain.
And soon enough you’ll realise, that joy will follow pain.
Let courage be your password and fortitude your guide.
And then instead of grousing, remember those who died.

They died to earn your freedom, t’was not too great a price.
If only you are worthy of so great a sacrifice.
They bore their cross in silence, and sought not wealth or fame.
But you must try to emulate and glorify their name.

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18 Nov 2016 08:38:16
Been a long time since I actually read something word for word all the way through on here that was brilliant mate. Shame the players didn't get to see something like that before they played Scotland, wouldn't be great to see them just boycott FIFA completely and play with shirts that had Poppy's printed on instead of them armbands, it's about time they did something off the pitch to help get the nation back behind them instead of letting us down ever two years!

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18 Nov 2016 09:08:12
Brought a tear to my eye that.

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18 Nov 2016 14:11:59
Wow!
Great post!

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18 Nov 2016 17:21:39
I have too say this Andy that is the best post I have ever read on here.

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18 Nov 2016 17:39:54
I've got to be honest, I have read and re read this a lot today, I keep going back to it.

Words don't quite do it justice, great post, and very emotional.
Thanks Andy.

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18 Nov 2016 19:26:43
Thanks for the positive messages guys. My Great Uncle was one of the lucky ones who managed to make it out alive and he is still kicking at 92. But millions upon millions were not so lucky and their stories will never be told. There were men in his POW group who were strafed down by machine gun fire from allied fighter planes who thought they were a German platoon literally minutes before they were rescued. They dragged themselves through hell only to fall at the final hurdle.

So when FIFA not only go after the players for wearing the armbands but are looking at taking action over the minutes silence and the parade thing with the veterans and the bugle, it touches a nerve.

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17 Nov 2016 05:43:52
For the past week or so all I've found myself doing is posting negative stuff and I don't want to anymore because its just not me. I feel that all its done is soured the atmosphere slightly and that's not what this site should be about. Its been made clear by a minority that certain peoples opinions aren't worth sharing so I will refrain from sharing mine from now on. I have had fun over the years and we have had some interesting discussions which always remained pretty civil no matter how much we agreed or disagreed. There have been people before who come on and question the validity of peoples opinions based on trivial factors but they were usually short lived posters who disappeared shortly afterwards never to grace these pages again. I will continue to frequent the site but I won't be actively involved anymore. I don't know why this has got up my nose so much this time but I guess its the straw that broke the camels back. To the vast majority of you I say thanks for the good times, and to the rest **** you.

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17 Nov 2016 09:04:05
Hope you don't go mate. although I hate negative posting, I hope I haven't offended or been personal.

The fact of the matter is we all want a successful villa team, and have different opinions on how we get there'

Have a breather and re assess in a few days mate?

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17 Nov 2016 10:09:39
I agree with Flackie, its a bit of fun hardly any1 ever agrees with me but we all have to stay and enjoy the banter. Take me an flackie for instance we don't get on we have very differnt views but come friday one thing we will agree on is Aston Villa and all of us will always be rooting for the same thing. I hope one day to share a pint with you all then we can have a laugh. UTV.

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17 Nov 2016 11:21:13
God I hate to say, but I agree mate!

It would be boring if we all agreed!

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17 Nov 2016 12:49:05
Hey Mr. SKIA I don't share my pints with anyone! 😄 bUt you can buy me one at Leeds if you want.
Have a great weekend in Britains gay capital this week. 😘.

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17 Nov 2016 15:17:10
We all agree that Villa will win comfortably tomorrow, right? I say that it will be a 3-0 victory for us. Come on, Villa!

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17 Nov 2016 16:21:53
Andy PF i will get you a pint at leeds then mate. just sorting my dress for brighton just don't know what shoes to where lol Seriously tho let's get another 3 points UTV.

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17 Nov 2016 16:56:43
We have several bullies on the site that see a rejection of their views etc as negative.
Even reality is deemed negative.
Shame really as it is a great site for the exchange of views.
Recently it has improved.
Stick with it Andy and if you believe then that is your opinion.

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17 Nov 2016 19:28:28
See what I mean.

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17 Nov 2016 19:21:14
Mr. SKIA just wear the ones you wear to the Tower ballroom on Grab a Granny nights - the claret and blue stilletoes!

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17 Nov 2016 19:37:27
Blimey make you mind up Oldvillan.

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17 Nov 2016 19:37:33
Have I missed something?

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17 Nov 2016 22:07:08
It's five past ten.

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17 Nov 2016 23:57:49
Nah. Its been a good ride for the most part but people like Mr SKIA just P me off too much. And when he is the most prolific poster it just ain't fun like it used to be. To come out and respond with its just a bit of fun and banter and that were all on the same page after basically saying that anyone who doesn't sit in the Holte end at every game has a worthless opinion is mind blowing. And as we all know its not the first time this cancer has reared its ugly head and won't be the last. It makes what should be a fun and friendly place to come and talk all things Villa a divisive and unwelcoming place.

Like I said, I will continue to visit the site as its always fun to read posts from KingVilla, Flackie, Mendax, Oldvillain etc but I won't be joining in anymore.

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18 Nov 2016 09:06:11
Hear hear Andy🏳🏳.

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18 Nov 2016 11:36:46
I'm sorry to see you go mate.
And your point is true, I myself don't visit or post hardly anymore for the same reason, and as I think neither do many more.

However. we are better than that! Aren't we!?
Ignore, don't comment like or disagree. the message will get across!

But the fun and banter has left this site, hopefully temporarily!

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18 Nov 2016 13:14:32
I don't agree with you, AndyVilla. IMO you and 1 or 2 others need to stop taking yourself so seriously.
Remember this ; everyone is different. We all have different opinions and different ways of expressing them. Some people have better command of English than others.
Take Mr. SKIA for example. I have strongly disagreed with him on some things and vice versa. I have mocked him just like others have. His blunt approach is at least honest and whether we agree with him or not, or like him or not those are his opinions.
His opinions and mine are just as valid as anyone else's. It doesn't matter who you are or how long you've been on this site, how well spoken you are or how many qualifications you have. Nobody has the definitive opinion.
IMO those that object to that blunt approach are those that think they have the definitive viewpoint. They don't.
It would be great if you stayed on this site and joined in with us. In your own way.
Oh and for the record I think this site is more fun than its ever been. But that's only my opinion.

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18 Nov 2016 19:34:52
In my mind there is a difference between healthy debate and disagreement and downright disrespect. Why should I waste my time contributing if what I post is dismissed out of hand? So until this matter resolves itself one way or another, I'm not wasting my time anymore.

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18 Nov 2016 20:01:22
Oh Andy AndyPF just for clarification I have absolutely no issue with people disagreeing with me and I have never claimed nor ever would claim I have the difinitive opinion on anything. I am more than happy to debate people based on their arguments but what I am not happy with is being disregarded for pathetic trivial things like match attendance.

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18 Nov 2016 19:34:52
In my mind there is a difference between healthy debate and disagreement and downright disrespect. Why should I waste my time contributing if what I post is dismissed out of hand? So until this matter resolves itself one way or another, I'm not wasting my time anymore.

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18 Nov 2016 20:50:32
Mr. SKIAs views ( often written with little eloquence and therefore taken out of context) are often dismissed out of hand, including by me.
He takes it on the chin and, in his own way, comes back for more. That's what banter is all about IMO.
A fair few of us have slated his views on match attendance, rightly so. But that doesn't deter him. I for one have actually learnt how to deal with his ways . He's even promised to buy me a pint at Elland Road.
A few week's ago I told him to take a holiday in Bhutan.!
So Andy my point to you is carry on with your excellent posts. Just, maybe, be a little less sensitiveand have some fun with us and Mr Knows F. k All .

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18 Nov 2016 21:17:55
I agree Andy!
However, bet he doesn't buy you a pint!

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18 Nov 2016 22:14:46
He'll never hear the last of it if he doesn't.

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18 Nov 2016 21:41:08
Just clarifying my position. And I will still post on any important more generalized threads like Oldvillan's above. The bad 1% just spoils posting for me, but I will continue to read the decent stuff most of you guys put up.

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18 Nov 2016 23:25:14
Tell you what!
I'll buy you both one. well might get him a coke!

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15 Nov 2016 21:40:43
Finally we have a date for Dalian Atkinson funeral the big man can rest in peace now god bless! UTV.

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15 Nov 2016 22:22:04
Well said Mr SKIA. RIP Dalian we will always remember you.

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15 Nov 2016 08:47:38
I know the man is 38 but would anyone take Frankie Lampard he would bring bags of experience and knowledge do you think he would make a great impact sub thoughts?

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15 Nov 2016 12:11:24
Don't think he'all be playing anymore, all he's been talking about is ambassador roles and coaching roles, might signal him hanging up his boots.

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15 Nov 2016 17:17:14
Lampard or Barry could do us a power of good.
Lamps would not come but Barry might come back.
However the boo boys would try and crucify him if he did come back.
As with all things, we must wait and see what Bruce does.
1 pt on Friday will do for me and 3 pts might make me excited.

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16 Nov 2016 22:09:07
gerrard on the hunt for a new club too and even in champship we must be a better option than celtic.

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14 Nov 2016 22:34:33
Hi people so I will be making the journey to Brighton which for me its our toughest test yet don't know how many of you would agree? what's your predictions for the game? Mine is brighton 2. Aston Villa 1 Hope iam wrong but brighton are pretty invincible at home and we are not so good away and us being really unfit never helps as we can only play for 1 half hope soonier rather than later our fitness gets better. As always love to hear your views so hope iam wrong on this 1.

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15 Nov 2016 05:00:29
Do you really though?

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15 Nov 2016 08:03:26
I can't make this game so I'm hoping that my son will help roar them on to victory.
As always we will need to stop them running at us through midfield, but I'm not sure were good enough in midfield to do that.
Feel a point would be a good result but like you say Mr SKIA we will need to stay strong for 90 minutes not 45.
To Nick a win 1.0 would be a FAB result and a massive boost . so that's my prediction. BOOM. UTV.

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15 Nov 2016 10:32:45
hope your right mate! UTV.

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15 Nov 2016 12:07:40
Hope it's a great night down there . I'll be at Leeds can't wait!

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15 Nov 2016 13:11:17
yeah a load of us doing the weekend mate brighton will be full of villa. Leeds will be great aswel to fantastic clubs that deserve better. Ian sure you will be at brighton in spirit mate UTV.

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11 Nov 2016 10:28:19
Right people bit of fun what is your favourite moment since being a Aston Villa fan? Mine was beating man utd 1st game of the season 3 .1 ì went with my dad so made it special but it was the way we beat them was fantastic the holte end was so loud that day!

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11 Nov 2016 12:23:56
1957 6th May. AV 2 MU 1
Followed by AV 1 BM 0.

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11 Nov 2016 13:06:13
Good choices boys. Hard to pick a top fave but I loved the 3rd div game against Bournemouth. 48000 crowd in the old third division was simply unbelievable. Electric atmosphere.
5.1 against Liverpool on a Wednesday night was good too. 1976 I think.

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11 Nov 2016 15:23:36
Andy, I still have the newspaper report of the Liverpool game. AWSOME.

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11 Nov 2016 15:29:37
Sounds absolutely amazing mate. We truly have the best fans in the world Brighton and Leeds are now a sell out. All sound like great games and love to hear about the attendances i also love all the old songs we used to sing. Iam sure as fans the songs were better in them days rather than now or that's just me getting old.

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11 Nov 2016 15:41:18
Mine is the same as you Andy, what a night, I have it in my profile for this site.
Ray Clemence stated after the game that it was the best 45 minutes of football he had seen from a team in his life.
We were fantastic.

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11 Nov 2016 17:10:17
Was this the day that Shankly said it was hard to play against a defensive team?

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11 Nov 2016 17:32:30
My first vist to villa park 1972 i was on 8yrs old, villa beat Hull 2-0 Ray Graydon scored a penalty. I then wrote to him, he wrote back with a signed letter and picture. I was hooked, Villa forever.

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11 Nov 2016 17:48:19
Yeah they were fun days. Many of the old games from those days are on YouTube including the 1972 Bournemouth game.
Watch the crowd when Andy Lochhead scores! Amazing. And it wasn't the Holte either it was the Witton end prior to the North Stand being built.
That 48,116 attendance was a record that stood for quite a few years.
Unfortunately the Liverpool hammering wasn't televised.

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11 Nov 2016 23:23:21
Great to here all your experiences on great moments everyones experiences equally special love it UTV.

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11 Nov 2016 23:46:13
Just one more game, before we leave All Our Yesterdays!
It was a League Cup semi final 2nd leg against Man Utdin December1970. There was an incredible 62,500 rammed inside Villa Park. The atmosphere was touchable quite incredible. Check it out on youtube.

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12 Nov 2016 11:17:35
being only 36 i don't really remember all that champs league win so for me its got to be the league cup wins vs 94 or 96. can't remember the year but think it was oct 09 when we beat chealsea and not just beat them but was a bloody good game too and being the only villa fan in a group of chelsea/ utd/ bindippers/ arsenal fans its not often i get to gloat.

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12 Nov 2016 23:37:31
2 of my favs of recent times. Old Trafford won 1-0 first date with my Mrs. Also enjoyed Everton away won 3-2 backed sidwell first goal an before I got to my seat I'd won bet. Klingon equalised for them on 90th min only for Ashley Young to get a late winner
What a game.

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13 Nov 2016 19:18:33
Been a season ticket holder for 30 years
Stood on the holte end on a milk crate
When the score board was the bulbs no LED then
Saw league champions
Saw european cup well listened on BRMB with Tony Butler
But
Wed 20 Jan 2010 Villa v Blackburn
6-4 on the night
I still have the picture on my phone the TV screens in the stadium
"Please leave the stadium carefully
And make your way to Wembley
That was a night
Even better than 5-1 over blues.

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13 Nov 2016 21:54:43
Gotta be the 2-0 down at half time to Arsenal, the Father Xmas parachute incident, winning 3-2, and although if my memory serves me, he didn't score but Collymores best 45 minutes as a Villa player, only thing to come close to that was Cahills overhead kick in the 5-1 against the nose, never been in the Holte and known a goal celebrated by us in there like that PERIOD, my brother ended up from where we sit in BB, down to about row C on the steps behind the goal, just swept away by the crowd going mental

UTV.

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14 Nov 2016 19:10:17
Easy one. October 21st 1981. Dynamo Berlin 1 Tony Morley 2.

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15 Nov 2016 17:32:43
Everton away, Ashley young scoring to make it 3-2 sticks in my memory.

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11 Nov 2016 09:33:47
Richards to become a turkey.
Sorry, will play in Turkey.
What a great move for us.
Many will be happy to send him on his way and even make him a food hamper to take with him.
How much will we save on his pay, can't call it earnings?
Also can we get a fee for him and if so how much?
Any fee plus pay saved will help Bruce in January.
Who else do we anticipate leaving?
With the exception of some of the recent summer signings are there any that could be on the shopping list of other championship clubs. Unlikely to be on prem targets and none would go down a division.

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11 Nov 2016 10:17:29
I'd like someone to take Westwood, Agbonlahor Richards and Cissokho off our hands.
Then replace them with 3 top quality signings. A full back and 2 midfielders.
If we are in contention for promotion by January this will make us more attractive to would-be signings. With Dr Xia smelling possible promotion too I'm sure he would splash the required cash for quality signings.
So keep up the great work SB . Fingers crossed, in January it could be lift off. 😄.

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11 Nov 2016 14:18:05
No point in selling cissoko unless we're replacing him, his good cover for Amavi.

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11 Nov 2016 15:55:28
Can't we loan Richards to a team in Syria.

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13 Nov 2016 07:48:51
have read Pat Murphy reported on the beeb that our dealings in the window will be minimal due to FFP.

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13 Nov 2016 08:35:43
I'm not sure, but I think ffp has been relaxed for this season.

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13 Nov 2016 10:28:07
We've still got room to make a few, Jordan Rhodes on loan will be the big one I think.

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10 Nov 2016 20:16:13
Who do we think is the best midfielder in the Championship? IMO it's Shelvey.
Any thoughts chaps?

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10 Nov 2016 20:54:28
Shelvey good when you give him time, useless when you close him down early. I prefer Lansbury, or Hughes the young lad from Derby, both attacking, can defend, every pass in the locker and know when to just move it quickly, perfect for the championship. Shelveys good don't get me wrong but more suited to the prem. oh I nearly forgot Westwood head and shoulders above them all;)

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10 Nov 2016 21:55:44
Good shout Chris 👍.

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11 Nov 2016 00:18:44
Best player i would have to agree Shelvey great passing abilty can open up teams on his own. I think we have 1 of the worst midfield in the league but bruce is doing a fab job getting any points with our midfield feel really sorry for him.

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11 Nov 2016 00:33:51
Agree Mr SKIA. 👍 I'm sure SB will sort it in Jan. We can launch a real challenge with a much better midfield.

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11 Nov 2016 04:27:44
will Hughes for me.

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11 Nov 2016 08:22:48
If it was up to me I'd get Lansbury and Hughes at all cost, they'd both come because things that have happened at their club, sort a striker for while AFCON is on, and a right back and I think we're on our way to automatic promotion, if we could pinch a Robbie Brady, forrestieri or knockeart then all the better to add something different.

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11 Nov 2016 09:43:46
Even with our midfield as it is I still think we can nick it at Brighton.
It's certainly a big game for us. If we can avoid defeat against a team in form great. A win, even greater.
I'll be there anyway in my Speedos and flip-flops so I hope the weather picks up. 😎.

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12 Nov 2016 23:39:50
I think Hughes is over rated
Dale Stephens one of best for me and shelvey.

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10 Nov 2016 09:54:19
Did anybody see the under 23 against celtic last night? Elphick was rubbish we wasted so much money in the summer iam gutted Rdm brought any old rubbish tishbola gabby and aly cissoko weren't great either. 100 million in to seasons and this is the best we come up with makes me feel so sad!

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10 Nov 2016 14:57:13
Chester kodja McCormack adomah and Jedinak - all summer signings must take up 80% of what's spent, and it's arguable their all a success. I wouldn't draw back to last year, that was a different board wasting and different owners money, so don't worry about that now.

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10 Nov 2016 15:27:17
We spent more money than newcastle mate they brought 10 in so who do you think done the better business? Ross McCormack hasn't been a success he hadnt scored enough goals. jury still out on Jedinak.

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10 Nov 2016 16:47:33
I would say Villa did much better business - Newcastle are going to run away with this division and were always going to be huge favourites but I don't think you can blame recruitment for the position we find ourselves in - If Bruce had been in from Day 1 I can assure you we would be within touching distance of Newcastle. I genuinely think our recruitment and our player retention was excellent in the summer. For an assault on the championship. I personally would have liked to see us bring in players that could transition to the PL if promoted but one step at a time I suppose.

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10 Nov 2016 19:58:35
Plus if Newcastle had of had Rafa from the start of last season they probably wouldn't have gone down. We had more work to do, a takeover going on and a manager who was starting from scratch without the back end of last seasons premier league to assess the squad. We were no where near as likely as Newcastle to hit the ground running.

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10 Nov 2016 20:14:03
Agree Andy. Also Newcastle spent about 40m. last January, when they bought Shelvey, and STILL went down.

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10 Nov 2016 20:59:41
MSKIA - you was talking about our summer business and when you look at the successes - Gollini, Chester, Jedinak, kodja, adomah I think overall it was a success. Players like McCormack and Tshibola will come good in time. Don't understand comparing our window to theirs, they have probably spent about £120 mil in the last 3 transfer periods, and their in the same division, yes their running away with it but they already had a world class manager and the shapings of a strong squad. In our current strongest 11, 8/ 11 are new players, and without tempting fate we are starting to hit form and moving up the table, so did we have a successful window? Yes we did.

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11 Nov 2016 00:32:32
gollini is still a bit dodgy for me jedinak legs have gone an flys around forcing us not to play him tshibola don't play so i can't judge him. But the rest i would say been average but 50 million is a lot of cash i feel we could have done a little better but bruce will fix it he knows class. To me in the summer villa didn't have a plan they brought odds and ends. We have way to many strikers so we play 1 upfront and the rest on the wing which isn't fair ayew mcCormack even kodjia have played out wide when anybody with a brain would tell you there strikers. Elphick our captin is crap so no not a good summer i don't think bruce will put it right for 1 we are 2 nice to play!

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11 Nov 2016 08:25:08
Sorry can't agree because if we're in play offs come January 1st, every point you have made is irrelevant.

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11 Nov 2016 08:42:12
I agree with Chris that, overall, our summer business was good. Remember we needed a whole squad not just half a dozen players.
But for me RDM didn't do enough to strengthen the Centre midfield.
That's where our soft underbelly is. So I also agree with Mr SKIA that we are a bit too nice to play against.

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11 Nov 2016 09:18:10
Newcastle have a mid-table Premier League squad and a world class manager - let's be honest, that Newcastle team is not a Championship side whereas you could argue Villa have been a Championship side in spirit and quality for 3 or 4 years. We needed a total overhaul of playing staff while also retaining a number of key players - I think, with the exception of Gueye, we managed to do that very successfully. We aren't where we are because of a poor transfer window, that is down to the fact that we got our managerial appointment wrong, that now has been rectified so I fully expect us to push up the league. A win at Brighton and we could potentially go 10 points off automatic promotion and 2 points off the playoffs. And I fully expect us to spend in January. Things are looking up!

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09 Nov 2016 16:39:29
The Dancing Ivorian probably our best player so far this season. Anybody got any views.

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09 Nov 2016 17:12:45
The boy can certainly finish. Anythink is possible with him upfront i been unhappy with ayew goal record this season but things are looking better.

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08 Nov 2016 19:54:09
Question.
Now Barton's contract has been terminated. Can he sign and play for a club now, or sign and wait till window?
Or can he not do anything until January?

Not saying we should, as I know he's not everyone's bag. but I would love him or of his elk in our midfield.

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{Ed003's Note - Nothing until January.}

08 Nov 2016 20:10:42
Thanks man!

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{Ed003's Note - no probs.}

08 Nov 2016 20:48:41
i would take joey barton so we agree on somethink flackie lol no kisses tho.

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08 Nov 2016 21:30:31
Well that's made my mind up!
Hope he goes Burnley.

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08 Nov 2016 22:17:01
So do I 👍.

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08 Nov 2016 22:51:38
Shame really with Jedinak missing the Brighton game we could of got him in and around the squad now and had someone to replace the jedi for that game. Don't think he would be a starter but he'd be a perfect back up for Jedinak, andbrilliant for the last 20 minutes if we are winning.

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09 Nov 2016 08:21:18
There's a reason why Barton don't stop at clubs long because he is trouble everywhere he goes would you want a average troubled player at our club when we are trying to rebuild me for one don't.

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09 Nov 2016 12:16:31
I agree with you Villadaz .
However, I do trust SB. And if he decides that Barton could really help us in the short term then I would support him.

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09 Nov 2016 16:37:53
Is Bruce interested in Barton?
Not seen anything that suggests that there is any interest.

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09 Nov 2016 22:31:46
last i read barton hasn't been sacked off yet. but even if he does goes i really don't think he is going to help with the attitude problem some of the older lot seem to have at this club, he will be the same as richard and lescott and think he's better than villa.

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10 Nov 2016 10:10:08
Its a no from me for Barton!

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08 Nov 2016 13:18:49
Paul Lambert new wolves manager today defended his time at villa park saying he had very little to spend an he protected people which he will never do again. He also went on to say when he left the club the club spent money and got relegated. He said i didn't do a bad job did I? So big question is people did paul lambert do a good job at Aston Villa? let's not forget he brought Benteke for us.

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08 Nov 2016 16:58:37
He lost it when he changed the way we played, when we played counter attacking with weimann, Gabby and benteke on the front foot and Delph and Westwood playing it through we were really getting somewhere! Then he changed it to possession stuff and it just went down hill, shame really because he was in charge under what was a diabolical board, got no money really, lowered the wage bill and as we've found out since could have achieved something special as he had a deals to take brilliant players in place only for the plug to be pulled, most notably what he said on sky he had a deal to buy de bruyne and loan lukaku in a double deal whilst they was both at Chelsea. Thinking back and I know it's a big what if, but I can only imagine how good we could have been. Owell hey ho, look to future, if we're spending 50mil in the championship when (not if) I can only imagine we'll be spending 75+ and not on 10 players, on 3 or 4 quality additions.

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08 Nov 2016 18:19:54
I agree Chris. but, was a different time, with totally different hierarchy. if and buts are pointless now.
In Hindsight I hope we give him respect, as he has never slagged the club, or his time.
And one more thing. I don't think we would be in this league if he was manager last year.

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08 Nov 2016 19:12:19
Yea that's what I meant to get across, talking now with ifs and buts it means nothing, just speculation. However I do agree, he knew when he was wrong, he knew when to change the system. He would have took things back to the basics and just aimed to defend and then see what we could do going forward secondary to that. However we might never of been taken over had we not been relegated and we'd be effectively doing a Sunderland, under the same board making the same mistakes clinging on. Call me optimistic but I really think if we go up, the owner will buy quality and back Bruce. Just look at Southampton, wasn't long ago they was promoted (4 or 5 years ago), and ever since they've been top half, and even in Europe two years in a row!

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08 Nov 2016 19:48:27
Totally agree mate.

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07 Nov 2016 22:05:27
Would anyone take Tom Carrol from spurs?

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08 Nov 2016 07:40:54
Yes . Bentaleb would have been great but gone to Schalke on loan. Carroll would be a good addition where we need it most, midfield.

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08 Nov 2016 12:29:10
Would of preferred mason but he got sold to Hull.

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07 Nov 2016 16:36:45
Moan moan moan
We have 12 points from 15
Steve Bruce manager wise is the best thing that had happened to villa since Martin O'Neils first 3 seasons
In Steve Bruce we trust
When Westwood came on Saturday
I am sure I saw him chasing down the keeper . Breaking up play and yes a simple sideways or backwards pass to take the pressure off. He isn't a lampard or a Gerrard but he gives it 100% . He gave 100% when Lescott Richards and Gabby wasn't bothered and yes he had tears real tears when we were relegated
If Steve Bruce see's fit to play Westwood
It is ok with me
When was the last time we have put a run together like this let's enjoy it and have faith in what Bruce is doing
Gabby also included Small Heath and Blackburn were like a a rabbit in the headlights
Keep it up Steve Bruce
I am loving it.

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07 Nov 2016 18:02:45
As I have said before I am not a Westwood fan, but when you look at it like you have said it I have to agree with you Charmed.
Very well put mate, with you all the way.

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07 Nov 2016 18:24:23
Exactly. Well said x.

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07 Nov 2016 18:25:09
Not sure I meant the Kiss!
But yours if you want it! Lol.

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07 Nov 2016 18:27:46
Where is this moaning please?

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07 Nov 2016 18:54:51
We all have our own views on Westwood.
IMO he, along with Agbonlahor should never have been given a new contract.
Running around like a rabbit in the headlights is not enough. To get out of this Division and then stay in the Prem you need players with more than what Westwood and Agbonlahor have to offer.
I would never boo a player, even Agbonlahor but the bottom line is that they both need replacing if we are to improve.
So for me, roll on January.
This is not moaning. It is wanting the best for my beloved Villa.

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08 Nov 2016 03:32:50
*Disclaimer - I'm pretty sure I owned a Man Utd shirt when I was a young kid so feel free to burn the heretic*

Might be a bit too soon to judge Bruce that highly but let's face it the bar isn't set that high and I hope you are right. As for Westwood he's no world beater but we are desperately lacking in midfield as it is anyway so even with January reinforcements he will more than likely still have a sizeable part to play so we should cut the guy a bit of slack - as you say he's one of the few who seemed to care last season.

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06 Nov 2016 17:49:40
We boo Westwood and give Gabby a standing ovation where is the logic in that. At least Westwood turns up each week, might not be that good but you cannot fault him for having a go.

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06 Nov 2016 18:27:09
Oh dear.

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06 Nov 2016 19:33:15
Did you want me?

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06 Nov 2016 21:09:39
No.
But I could have said good god.

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06 Nov 2016 22:28:36
Haha!

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06 Nov 2016 12:20:47
What are peoples views on the so called boo boys who booed westwood yesterday? I think they are out of line yes he isn't a great player but his wearing a villa shirt so i will always get behind him its not his fault his not that good he trys. Was you 1 of the people who booed love to hear from you need to understand this.

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06 Nov 2016 12:46:46
I agree with you MSKIA, I am not a Westwood fan but I am a Villa fan.
Booing will disrupt the team, even if it is not directed at you as an individual you will always have it at the back of your mind that any mistake you make and you are next.

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06 Nov 2016 14:22:52
I've never been a fan of Westwood. To give him a new contract a couple of years ago was in my view a huge mistake.
But I would not boo him. I will continue to moan and groan about his limitations. But boo him no.
Other fans will do as they wish. He's a very wealthy journeyman footballer so can take it I'm sure.

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06 Nov 2016 16:50:36
If we boo our own players would it make them play any better. And how does that make us look to the opposition if we get on the backs of our own team.

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06 Nov 2016 17:46:09
It's a disgrace, club should put out a statement saying stewards will remove fans who boo the home players when coming on as substitutes or names are read out. We don't want fans like that.

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06 Nov 2016 19:31:37
I hate this, it's a moment I'm going to live to regret, but I agree with mr. know. very. little

Booing any member of the team during the game, including the warm up is illogical, counterproductive and negative.
What ever your feelings are regarding a players ability, skill and or use in the side is irrelevant. If he is in the team, the power that be thinks they are, (and countless managers are rarely wrong), so whilst the game is in process encourage make them feel like kings, gods, world beaters maybe, just maybe we might elevate them to what we expect.
Boo, make them feel like a failure, an outsider and perhaps they hide in the game, pass sideways, the ball becomes a hot potato, (sound familiar? )

The gabby point is slightly different and difficult, as he failed us more off the pitch than on it. He is one of us, living our dream, and he nearly blew it, it is still hanging on by its finger tips, but there it is.
I won't ever boo him, but I won't sing his name, just yet.

Westwood, in my personal opinion, is used as an escape goat. He is not to blame for where we are. Far from it, but he will never be a messi, or Ronaldo, (fat one or gay one) but he could be a new Barry. A rock. But we a determined for him to fail, not grow.

Was a new beginning under Bruce apparently, shouldn't we take the same view?

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06 Nov 2016 20:01:52
*Disclaimer - subhuman input incoming*

Its workplace harassment. Could you imagine what it would be like if you were vilified for every mistake you made. Its hardly likely to improve your performance.

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06 Nov 2016 20:40:26
Westwood the new Gareth Barry?!
Now come on! I've got a pretty wild imagination ( especially after a gallon of Citra in the Welly ) but that ain't never going to happen .
Unless of course you meant Barry Hole.

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07 Nov 2016 10:18:23
Does that mean Gabby is in line to become the next Barry Island?

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05 Nov 2016 22:29:03
I think that Steve Bruce knows that we are not that fit and 1st half it was about reserving energy. 2nd half we bossed the game. 1 thing I didn't understand was playing Ross McCormack in the central role on his own eg like a target man kodija should of been more central. crossing it to 5 foot 8 ross McCormack didn't work. But we dug deep and got what we deserved! UTV AVFC.

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05 Nov 2016 18:01:28
Don't know what Bruce said at half time but it worked, didn't change formation or any personnel they just seemed to understand the plan more and come out flying. Mccormacks finishing was diabolical, on another day he had a hat-trick! Kodja looked worth every penny and I can't pick a player who had a bad game. Think we should stick to the 3 in midfield against the better teams in the league, for example our next game vs Brighton. Then for the teams we should be beating like today, keep the same formation/ plan as today. Showed really quality and looked brilliant second half! Two home wins in a row, unbeaten under Bruce and at home, UP THE VILLA!

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05 Nov 2016 20:50:29
Steve Bruce has done something that has been lacking for so long, a plan and man motivation! As you say excellent second half thanks to his half time talk no doubt. Shame for Ross Mc in a situation where finds himself less of the focus not just of attention but play too. Give him a goal or two and he will come good. All today were excellent, Adomah's first touch was spot on and just gets better, my doubts about Amavi lacking match practice and strength are now history as he goes from strength to strength. Baker's head is a magnet and great with Chester, Hutton miss placed crosses can be off set by his immense effort today! Excellent result and to turn around 1 nil position will do no end of good for confidence! Viva Bruce Revolution VTID.

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04 Nov 2016 19:48:47
Our season begins tomorrow, I can see us winning 4 or 5 nil.
Blackburn might nick a goal but can`t see it.
Watch this space.
All ready for the flack if I am wrong.

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04 Nov 2016 20:15:49
Happy for 1_0.
I am not greedy nor over confident, so a win is all I need to see.
If it is 4 or 5 then great.

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04 Nov 2016 20:27:50
I would be happy with 1-0, but this fixture has produced plenty of goals over the years.

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04 Nov 2016 22:47:28
Already for the flack?
I can't wait.!

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04 Nov 2016 01:04:19
Every week shall we do a predict the villa score game? I fancy villa win 2.0 anybody else interested bit of fun? UTV.

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04 Nov 2016 05:21:17
I'm underqualified.

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04 Nov 2016 08:32:36
3 nil hopefully, similar to Rotherham, just get at them, were better than these in every position now show it.

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04 Nov 2016 10:03:50
Should we let both fans and supporters do this?

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04 Nov 2016 12:29:26
Aston villa 3 vs 0 Blackburn with the line up front we should get this. Hatrick for Gabby come on the Villa.

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04 Nov 2016 12:34:02
Yes its a bit of fun. IT'S good for morale. Villa forever.

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04 Nov 2016 12:56:41
Cheers mate yea i think we will beat blackburn there protesting agsinst there owners so hopfully there bad vibe will go on the pitch an villa can stuff them. UTV.

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04 Nov 2016 17:01:48
1 - 1 surely?

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04 Nov 2016 17:12:22
I think tomorrow is a must-win game. No excuses. Blackburn are poor and we have enough quality to win comfortably as long as the players are focused and determined.
I predict a 3.1 win. We must keep in touch with the top 6.

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04 Nov 2016 18:52:54
Honestly we should be showing our power so to speak now, start winning regular so teams aren't thinking "yes these are weak late on we've got a chance" and there thinking "ah for god sake, these are smashing it"

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04 Nov 2016 19:30:49
Honestly, if Bruce pretty much uses the wrong tactics tomorrow, then I can't fancy more than a lucky 1-0 win to Villa.

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05 Nov 2016 12:03:59
I say villa 2 nil JK and JG with the goals UTV.

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03 Nov 2016 19:05:52
Dont like all these rumours about Rangers and Hepburn Murphy . Rangers have already stolen, some good kids, with this loophole . Rangers have paid ridiculous low fees, for some realy talented youngsters . So get your finger out Premier League, put a stop to this piracy, that's all you can call it . People on here ( myself included ) have called for, some of the better youngsters to be involved and given a chance . When they are involved and feel they have a chance, the kids will stay . Iv heard the agent of Murphy, is pushing for a new contract, so get it sorted Villa, we can't afford to loose talent like this. We have some good talented youngsters, let's start using them, before others do . when people can call for a waster like Gabby to be given another chance, let's remember Murphy has everything that Gabby used to have, before he they it all away . So come on Villa, get it sorted . Onwards& Upwards Villaforever.

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03 Nov 2016 19:58:39
AGREE 100% Dave.

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03 Nov 2016 20:27:20
Fully with you!

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{Ed007's Note - Hahahahahahaha!!!!

'Rangers have already stolen, some good kids, with this loophole . Rangers have paid ridiculous low fees, for some realy talented youngsters'

Have you watched them playing because there's not many talented youngsters there. If the kid has any sense at all he will stay well clear of Ibrox.}

03 Nov 2016 23:30:34
Its villa fault if he goes. We should play him and offer him a deal. If he goes to rangers i won't blame rangers for wanting a good striker and playing him balls in our court.

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04 Nov 2016 12:19:42
I don't see it happening with our new owner and management, Fox and his dumb way of doing things is a distant past.

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02 Nov 2016 18:50:24
Just going off on a tangent for a moment and thought I would air my feelings about FIFA and their stand on players not to wear a poppy, Shame on you.
I think all players of home nation`s teams should man up and grow a pair, show you care and respect the reasons for wearing a poppy.
Say it loud, If we can`t wear a poppy we won`t play, end of.

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02 Nov 2016 22:15:13
I just can't see how it hurts fifa if we wear a poppy. I agree show respect fifa, fifa are a joke i will be wearing 1 anyway!

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03 Nov 2016 05:47:08
It seems so irrelevant being as the match in question is between England and Scotland and both sides want to wear it. Just another example of PC gone too far. The players should wear them anyway because the public backlash against Fifa will be enormous if they dock points.

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03 Nov 2016 13:48:47
Thats true mate, Fifa need to sort there own crap out before picking little things that mean a lot.

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03 Nov 2016 20:34:46
Two fingers to Fifa.
Remembrance day is for us not the bureaucratic toss pots!
It is 100 years since ordinary men gave their all to stop other people that wanted to force their will upon others.

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02 Nov 2016 09:43:42
Disclaimer:whether you like me or not. Your steve Bruce who do we buy in January? Names please not just positions!

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02 Nov 2016 11:35:30
Trippier, Adam, and some decent loan players from the Prem, not abroad, unless they're established international players

UTV.

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02 Nov 2016 11:48:18
Your disclaimer doesn't.

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02 Nov 2016 11:48:26
Will Hughes.

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02 Nov 2016 12:29:46
Hernandez from Hull.
Bentaleb and Trippier from Tottenham.

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02 Nov 2016 13:11:20
Would anyone take a chance on Joey Barton? seems he works hard and seems a steve bruce sort of player! I think we could do with another winger, ayew is not a winger maybe Villa should try chris brunt slow but he can cross.

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02 Nov 2016 14:00:03
Defence: probably just a right back as bacuna is excelling in the middle and hutton isn't good enough, trippier, joe gomez (Liverpool) or even Liston if he's available.

Midfield: obvious centre midfield needs sorting, i'd go for Huddleston, Hughes, Lansbury - Bruce has worked with Huddlestone, hughes and Lansbury are championship top quality.

Forwards: Hernandez, Jordan Rhodes, will grigg - Hernandez worked with Bruce, Rhodes proven and should be available and will grigg is scoring in a poor Wigan team and should be cheap!

Think everyone mentioned would be likely to come aswell given our financial power, wouldn't mind a move for a match winner such as knockeart, Brady, forrestieri - if were above all their clubs, going strong and in play offs pushing top 2 there's no reason why one of them wouldn't come!

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02 Nov 2016 15:36:38
Would you really go for another striker as we have ayew gestede gabby Kodjia libor? I think we need a right back a winger and a central midfielder like i said barton and brunt would give experience. I would also try for Nathan Dyer at swansea don't play but great player. All about opinions love hearing everybodys view tripper seems to be the 1 you all like.

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02 Nov 2016 16:00:58
Going on rumours that we've got £25M to spend, I'd say from the names above.
Brady £10M
Trippier £5M
Barton FREE
Then see who leaves and replace in those positions but more leaning towards midfielders with a goal in 'em

UTV.

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02 Nov 2016 16:48:54
If we have 20-25 Million to spend then I would look at the following.

Ruben Loftus Cheek - Loan
Will Hughes - 10M
Kieran Trippier - 10M

Gollini,

Trippier, Chester, Baker, Amavi

Hughes, Jedinak, Loftus Cheek

Adomah, Kodjia, Ayew.

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02 Nov 2016 17:12:48
really agree with you mate, great shouts i like brady an barton let's hope we get them in brady be tough 1 to get tho.

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02 Nov 2016 17:15:57
Are we talking about the same Joey Barton that has been suspended by his own club for breaking the rules on betting?

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02 Nov 2016 17:56:24
Apparently he didn't Bet on his own team.

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02 Nov 2016 21:52:33
what a good choice of players.

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02 Nov 2016 22:20:47
1. Mr know it all we won't have kodja or gustede for a month so are you really not going to look to bring a proven championship striker at least on loan? Your braver than me.

2. Barton's had his problems but anyone saying they wouldn't have him in a heart beat obviously hasn't seen what he did for Burnley or heard the reports from the likes of Sean dyche, he was a huge part of getting them up, yes he's out spoken but that's because he expects effort and passion, something we have lacked for a while!

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03 Nov 2016 00:24:18
I get what your saying mate Rudy gestedes country didn't qualify so we have ruddy gabby McCormack and libor that's 4 strikers. The problem with villa, isn't the strikers we have plenty of them its getting the ball to them. We need another winger Barton is ace would really like him also i would try and buy barry bannan back. UTV Great shouts be a exciting January.

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03 Nov 2016 05:41:05
Why ask if you don't really appreciate the responses?

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03 Nov 2016 10:59:16
Joey Barton? Barry Bannan? Am I reading these posts correctly?
Its 2016 we need to move on, look forward and buy players that are neither way past their sell-by date ( Barton ) or just plain rubbish ( Bannan) .
How about we bring back David Platt? Kevin Gage? Steve McMahon?

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03 Nov 2016 16:34:18
Bannan plain rubbish? You seen him in this league? Have you not learnt anything from the last 3 seasons? We need proven not youngsters who will be great "some day", veretout might be a good player one day, don't mean he can do a job for us in the position we're in. Barton and Bannan are both proven at this lesson and can do a very good job in a position we're struggling in, both brilliant shouts!

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03 Nov 2016 18:58:46
Yes I've seen Bannan and Barton play many times in this league. That is why my opinion is what it is.
We should and will aim a lot higher than these 2 players. We should be aiming for 2 TOP QUALITY midfielders and a TOP QUALITY RB .
Players that can see that our club, with its highly ambitious owner, can offer them playing time in the PL.
Barton is finished and Bannan is rubbish. They are both the past not the future.

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03 Nov 2016 20:45:32
only word I can think to describe what your saying is ignorance, you obviously haven't seen them play and are just going off joey Barton's reputation and the bannan that left the villa. Your saying top quality centre mids yet refuse to consider 2 midfielders from last seasons team of the season? They are two of the most qualified players for that position and the definition of top quality AT THIS LEVEL! It's all opinions but I've just backed up my opinion with fact, as far as I can see you've backed up yours with out of date reputations/ judgements.

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03 Nov 2016 21:14:17
I think you should read my last post again. I base my opinion on what I've seen and what I think we need for the future.
My opinion is what it is, an opinion. Yours.
is too, whether or not you base it on what you say are ' facts '.
You think that Barton and Bannan are the answer. I don't.

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03 Nov 2016 22:35:40
No sorry you can't change what you said now, you said Barton was "Finished" and Bannan was "rubbish" and I'm sorry but you don't get voted by all the teams around you into a team of the year being finished or rubbish. They'd be brilliant to fill our midfield, them two and the likes of Will Hughes, Henri Lansbury are the best options, we've spent too long thinking of the future and look where we are, we need to think of the now and get the best players for the job on our hands now not in 5 years.

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{Ed007's Note - Have you been following Barton's 'career' in Scotland, Chris? The game's he has played in he was outclassed and outmuscled by SPFL youngsters, he hasn't played or trained since September, in fact he's only trained for about 5/6 weeks since last season finished. The word on the street is that he's happy to stay and lift his wages for the next 18 months because a) he wants the FULL money he's due from Rangers and b) nobody in England will match the deal he's getting up here, no English team was willing to give him the kind of deal he wanted, even Burnley offered him vastly reduced terms.
Barton is not what Villa are needing on or off the field, he hasn't changed a bit and is still the same arrogant troublemaker he always was.}

03 Nov 2016 23:27:09
I haven't changed what I said. And I'll say it again.
Barton is finished. Hannah is plain rubbish.
They are not the players this club needs now or in the next season or 2 either. ( I don't know where you got 5 years time from) .
When Mr. SKFA asked who we would buy or loan in January my immediate thoughts were Hernandez, from Hull. Nabil Bentaleb and Trippier from Tottenham.
All 3 are top established players . Bentaleb is pure class ( check Youtube) .
And IMO infinitely superior to Barton and Bannan . Its because of buying dross like these that we are where we are and to get out of the EFL and stay out we need QUALITY.

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04 Nov 2016 08:43:35
Sorry can't have that Ed, he must have played 5 games up there and he was close to man of the match in 2, played decent in the other and 2 the whole team was overrun. He's suspended because he asked the question what on earth was that after they got pumped by their biggest rival, and if you really believe he's still the same old Barton and really believe he hasn't changed have a listen to what Sean dyche said on 5live a few weeks ago. Oh and all you have to do is look at his social media accounts to see his been training every day since he's been suspended. And Andy I'm sorry but you still haven't answered how Barry bannan is getting into the team of the season if his rubbish? And then saying you want a player that's on a season long loan away from Spurs, a player that won't be back at Spurs because he's slated them loads since he's been gone, yet Barton can't come because of his attitude, and finally he's never even played at this level?! Micah Richards looks like Jaap Stam on YouTube, you need to realise why we are where we are and stop being ignorant to the fact we need players for now that we know from evidence can do a job, not ones that look good on a video game.

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{Ed001's Note - funny that you say that as all the Rangers fans were glad he got suspended as he was crap in every game for them. He was overshadowed by a kid, in Jordan Rossiter, until Rossiter got injured. I am sure you know him best, but the only thing the prick did of note was bully the youth team lads until someone stepped in to protect them, leading to the fight which ended up with him being suspended.

Barton has not changed, the difference was at Burnley is that he was too scared of Dyche to act up in training.}

04 Nov 2016 11:51:06
Chris it seems like we should call time on this one.
I think neither Barton or Bannan are good enough to get into our first team squad. Ed has talked of Bartons attitude not me.
Regarding Bannan, all I can say is that the standard of teams in the Championship must have been pretty poor last season. He's rubbish and always has been. He couldn't get in a Crystal Palace team that was really poor . He is not the answer to our midfield problems.
SB will be pursuing players that can both help us get promoted AND form part of a PL squad.
Regarding Bentaleb I hold my hands up. Didn't know that he had joined Schalke on loan. Apologies for that. However I do think that he illustrates the sort of quality we should be looking at. I watched him regularly for Spurs and he a pure player and still only 21.
Anyway Chris the difference f our opinions has been good and we'll speak again very soon hopefully. We may even agree on the next topic!

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04 Nov 2016 14:32:58
Good call Andy, just opinions, mine is that at this level bannan would be good, I remember him in the prem for us and palace and he was out of his depth but so far for Wednesday he's thrived. I get your point re bentaleb he does look a good player, but I'd just prefer someone who has played at this level so they can hit the ground running just when we will need them. And ed I've read several versions of events, even off Mark Warburton and Joey himself, not heard anything like what you've said so do you have any evidence or do we have to believe it because it's in red? The general consensus is that warburon asked the players to talk about what had happened vs Celtic, as what would happen all over the country, joey was putting across his opinion and asking questions, albeit abruptly, Andy didn't think his tone or mannorisms were appropriate as there were young lads present, they had a disagreement which led to them being told to leave it at that. From that joey was suspended while it was investigated, as Andy is a long servant it was only right to suspend joey until they knew what was happening. And from there joeys relationship with Warburton has soured - now me personally I can't see anything wrong there, I've been bleated at i front of my team before, because I deserved it, and I learnt from it. It just tells me joey is a leader and expects a better standard.

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{Ed007's Note - That's not what actually happened, you're just repeating the official story put out by TRIFC's PR company. And Halliday joined them in July 2015 so he's hardly a long term servant. If that was all that happened Barton could sue their ass off. There's a very murky story at the bottom of it and it all stems from the anti-Catholic, anti-Irish feelings that runs deep through the club. Barton was raging that he and a few others were forced to pose and have the pics taken with a sectarian flute band from N.I who glorified terrorist murders - Andy Halliday didn't like that and things escalated from there.}

04 Nov 2016 15:12:54
I don't what it is you've said I've quoted looks like you leant on the key board, what I said came from joeys talk sport interview, Warburtons comments and a few media reports. Surely what your saying is more cause to sue them? And it Doesn't seem very Murky you know all the details. As for Andy I meant he is a longer servant than someone signed 3 months prior to the incident. I think the story is a lot closer to what's been reported and joey and warburton have said themselves, otherwise what happened? It all kicked off over some pictures so joey was suspended but before that they had a big meeting and made up a story for the press, had a few rehearsals? Sorry not buying it. Owell he's been let back now so don't need to speak about him anymore.

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{Ed007's Note - He hasn't been let back, they can't afford to pay him off so they need to provide training facilities to their employee, he is training with kids and is banned from any contact with the first team squad.
If you look up who James Traynor and his PR company Level 5 you will see how tight a control they have on the Scottish press, if the press write a negative story about TRIFC they are threatened to be banned from the club and the TRIFC director Dougie Park threatens to withdraw his advertising. Have you ever heard of a PR man pulling a manager out of a press conference because the PR man doesn't like the questions? It happened the other week much to the embarrassment of Mark Warburton.
You obviously have no clue what the Scottish football scene is like so I really don't care what you believe, I know the truth but next time I won't bother sharing it. You can stick to believing Talkshit Radio.}

04 Nov 2016 15:35:03
Touched a nerve have I? I saw what happened in the press conference warberton said several times I won't be answering questions on joey, they kept asking them so he walked out. If you know the truth why don't the English papers? Why don't media outlets that couldn't care less about the TRIFC? Because it's all fabricated nonsense that's why. if it was true Joey for one wouldn't have took the pictures knowing who these people were, and for two they wouldn't have suspended him risking him taking legal action. Don't get so irate because people don't share your opinion.

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{Ed007's Note - He walked out? Really?



I'll just leave you in your wee fantasy gullible bubble, you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about.}

04 Nov 2016 17:48:56
Mate it's not that deep, calm down. Just don't ever take pictures with people you don't want to, it's a dark road ahead. 😂🙈.

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01 Nov 2016 23:51:28
Been reading, some of the interview with Veretout . The rumours where flying about for ages, about the stupid things that Fox was putting in players contracts . This just proves it, only played 29games because they had to give him wage increase on 30 . Same with Adama, that Fox was a complete disaster . Haw Randy was ever talked into giving the man a job, we will never know . Still can't believe that he ever worked at Arsenal, the man was a complete Doughnut . In the past thank god, Onwards& Upwards Villaforever.

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01 Nov 2016 17:14:18
Gabby agbonlahor will be a Aston Villa player for 2 years he will reject every offer going as his happy collecting 55k a week. So we either make him earn his wage or put him in the reserves either way his picking up 55k. ayew isn't exactly banging goals in so i would make him earn his cash!

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01 Nov 2016 21:47:53
Send Gabby out on loan.

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02 Nov 2016 13:05:20
With Grealish?
Or is he a different case?

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02 Nov 2016 16:31:34
Agree send Gabby out on loan Abroard somewhere the further the better.

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02 Nov 2016 17:29:40
You haven't mentioned Grealish villaman.
He has done some silly things also.

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02 Nov 2016 21:56:55
Perhaps some of the more senior players could take Grealish under their wings and help him out. If that does not work send him out on loan.

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01 Nov 2016 09:05:13
Interesting to see that we are split on the Gabby situation.
Very clear that some think that he should rot in hell while others are more generous and think he should get another chance.
In a biblical sense we should welcome him back but some see him him as a lucky bas. d that should never be forgiven.
Whatever our opinions, mine is that he is worth a chance, Bruce will decide what he wants to do and it looks like he is making the right decisions at the moment.

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01 Nov 2016 10:11:19
what we have to take into account is the affrican cup of nations as well. gestede won't be going but we will loose kodjia and ayew for a while so that leaves us light and a fit and fully focused gabby in this division is a decent stand in. that's what I feel bruce will have in mind and then if he does ok he will be more sellable come the end of the season if we go up as he then would not be good enough.

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01 Nov 2016 16:49:07
Rot in hell for Gabby, Hell is good for him.

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01 Nov 2016 17:39:22
Tough post villa man.
The inability to forgive is a character that is difficult.
Most of us have done something that we would rather not have done. I guess that Gabby could be the same.
Bruce will decide and he looks like he is going with him.
Many were anti Bruce, how wrong do they look now.

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01 Nov 2016 18:01:18
I do agree oldvillan. How ever I like to think I learn from my mistakes, rather than repeating them, or flaunt them, or rub them in the face of others!

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01 Nov 2016 18:42:46
Oldviilan, Just picking up on your point about people being anti-Bruce, if people don`t like him that’s fine, people cannot be labelled as looking wrong because we have won 2 games and drawn 3.
I like Steve Bruce a lot, and can see him bringing success back to Villa Park, nobody is wrong.
As far as Gabby is concerned he should be shipped out IMO the man is a joke, but if Bruce thinks he can play a part we must support him for his belief in the player, his enthused effort on Sunday will soon leave him.

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01 Nov 2016 19:03:37
How long have we waited for Gabby to get back to some acceptable level. By the time he does how long till shows SB and us the same contempt? Really can't be bothered to invest my time and energy in him and wish would leave in January! If stays and SB has him as a project so be it! I for one have No time for him now.

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01 Nov 2016 20:08:51
*Disclaimer - poster cannot attend games*

He is only going to sit in the reserves collecting his massive pay check. If he gets the opportunity to play his way back into the side he might come good again or at least interest other teams who might be willing to buy him and give him a career extending contract. It's best for all this way. Those who want him to have another chance will see him get one, those who want him gone will hope he shows enough to get signed somewhere else and Gabby himself has the chance to show how much he loves the club or just enough to con potential suiters into giving him a nice long contract he can sit on their bench collecting it. Just letting him rot in the reserves without at least giving him the chance doesn't help anyone.

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01 Nov 2016 23:15:42
Your disclaimer makes me laugh out loud every time! Lol.

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02 Nov 2016 17:22:12
Yes he's been crap for the past few years, but tbh nearly the whole team has been a shower of ****? They have all been crap not just gabby.

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03 Nov 2016 05:53:43
*disclaimer - opinion worth only 50% of a season ticket holders*

You have been around forever Flackie so you know how many times this issue has reared its head. Now those who don't want to read my opinions don't have to.

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