Aston Villa Banter Archive June 01 2015 to July 01 2015

 

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01 Jul 2015 21:18:51
Chances of potential new signing Chery's terrace chant being Cherry Oh Baby by UB40?

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01 Jul 2015 23:26:14
God I hope not!!
I hate that song! And fake reggae

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01 Jul 2015 21:08:42
so fed up of selling our best players its a joke we either bid for a unknown player or bid far to low for top notch players i would force benteke to stay or swap for balotelli! i heard there's still no takeover again today there waiting to sell benteke

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01 Jul 2015 21:51:15
And where have you herd that. I've herd it will happen this week but no one truly knows till its done. I'd love benteke to stay but can't force the guy so take the money invest it wisely and move on. I hate losing players or bidding on non herd of tosh but let's hope this all changes soon Hey !!

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01 Jul 2015 17:54:40
I just wish the takeover malarkey can be sorted out quick time, getting the same old summer feeling which we have endured over the last couple of years. If the beast wants to go then so be it, I am hoping any move to Pooh is stalling until the owners come in.

If he goes then we have to thank him for keeping us up, Austin should be good replacement .

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01 Jul 2015 20:20:14
Begovic
Richards okore Davies Robertson

Westwood fer
Vargas Sinclair
Grealish
Austin

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01 Jul 2015 17:47:19
I have to say that some of the players other teams are being linked with are a bi depressing - Apparently Stoke have agreed a 12 million deal for Shakiri and Palace are very interested in Cabaye.

I just hope the takeover talks are over with soon so we can start looking at players like these.

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01 Jul 2015 20:17:27
Totally agree pal
Looks like benteke off
We need serious investment
Gk cb lb cm rw cf
Who would you lot like for these positions
Begovic
Curtis Davies
Andy Robertson
Leroy fer
Eduardo Vargas
Charlie Austin
Lewis cook an Alex mowatt from Leeds look good prospects

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01 Jul 2015 17:38:47
Would love us to rival Stoke for Shaqiri, bargain at £12m, probably dreaming though

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01 Jul 2015 20:32:04
We should be going for this type of player. No way should Stoke be out bidding us for anyone. We would or should be a bigger draw for any player as well. I'd love us to go for this guy.

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02 Jul 2015 13:37:41
surely we are still regarded in European football as a bigger team than stoke? your right we should be seeing a move like this and for once we should be highjacking a transfer. only downside wuld be wage,

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01 Jul 2015 07:21:52
And now it begins!!

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01 Jul 2015 04:16:59
Liverpool offer 20mil lucas leiva borroini lambert having a laugh terriable deal benteke worth more than wish he'd have the balls an say he'd staying or he's off instead of hiding behind his agent no ones bigger than the club he should remember that if it wasnt for us he'd stil b playing for genk we gave him his chance .ive seen many of strikers since supporting villa since the age of 6 an i must say big ben is good but for me carew an dion dublin much better players an goal scorers dwight yorke .dont want lazy beor at villa to goes missing to many times that adebeor by the way i must admit an all i think doug ellis would b disgusted to see villa where we r now he'd wouldn't av put up with it for long lambert mcleish houlier would of all got the sack

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30 Jun 2015 22:01:16
my first post on here
id love us to line up like this first game of season, thoughts????
begovic(10m)
stoke
Richards okore clark Robertson(10m)
hull
westwood delph

Sinclair grealish townsend(10m)
spurs
benteke

given hutton clark sanchez gardner borini(5m)kozak
squad players baker robinson Kinsella etc
get rid of guzan cissoko nzogbia gabby

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30 Jun 2015 22:46:16
Definitely Townsend. I think 10 million is a bit steep for Robertson but wouldn't mind signing him. Begovic is a great keeper but I think we need to strengthen elsewhere as more of a priority, if it happens I won't complain. Borini for me is a no, and I doubt 5 million would be enough anyway. I would rather get in another proven striker, someone like Charlie Austin who will boost our goal tally even if that means not getting Begovic and having a cheaper LB. A cheeky bid for Oxlade-Chamberlain would be nice if Townsend isn't available, I think he could really shine if given regular first team action, which looks much less likely at Asenal seeing as Walcott and Sanchez will be ahead of him for that RW spot.

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30 Jun 2015 22:01:16
my first post on here
id love us to line up like this first game of season, thoughts????
begovic(10m)
stoke
Richards okore clark Robertson(10m)
hull
westwood delph

Sinclair grealish townsend(10m)
spurs
benteke

given hutton clark sanchez gardner borini(5m)kozak
squad players baker robinson Kinsella etc
get rid of guzan cissoko nzogbia gabby

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30 Jun 2015 14:58:15
Since doug Ellis has left the club has gone down hill everyday we are hearing reject reject reject for offers for crap foreigners nobody has ever heard of at least under ellis we had gud players! so if benteke goes for me we might aswel shut the place borin lambert crap he is a striker who can't be replaced! Now delph could be on he way aswel what's left then? bennett luna sanchez kozak an gabby oh an our new number 1 shay given who is that old iam surprised he hasn't got a stick! we are in a relegation battle every season because the owners pathetic which in turn makes us pathetic! 3teams went down we lost to all of them ellis would never aloud my beloved villa to turn into a joke! so what we got to look forward to? Nothink is the answer a none existent takeover with a load of players that want out! we have a month b4 we start again! i would take 40 points now as it stands!

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30 Jun 2015 15:43:47
I'm sorry I'd like to give you a decent reply but you're so full of s*** with a short memory you're not worth the effort

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30 Jun 2015 16:48:50
Well said villain,

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30 Jun 2015 16:59:38
I didn't even bother to say that!!
Does my head in

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30 Jun 2015 22:13:51
im confused wasnt it under lerner that we bought, petrov, carew, young, guzan, milner, downing delph, dunne, bent, vlaar, benteke, bacuna, okore and now richards. not a bad list

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30 Jun 2015 22:30:29
He also funded mon's massive spending sprees, with no reward reward. However I do agree some fresh investment is needed

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01 Jul 2015 09:35:44
Well posted strikes

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30 Jun 2015 14:56:42
Since doug Ellis has left the club has gone down hill everyday we are hearing reject reject reject for offers for crap foreigners nobody has ever heard of at least under ellis we had gud players! so if benteke goes for me we might aswel shut the place borin lambert crap he is a striker who can't be replaced! Now delph could be on he way aswel what's left then? bennett luna sanchez kozak an gabby oh an our new number 1 shay given who is that old iam surprised he hasn't got a stick! we are in a relegation battle every season because the owners pathetic which in turn makes us pathetic! 3teams went down we lost to all of them ellis would never aloud my beloved villa to turn into a joke! so what we got to look forward to? Nothink is the answer a none existent takeover with a load of players that want out! we have a month b4 we start again! i would take 40 points now as it stands!

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01 Jul 2015 02:23:02
1st of all people it was ellis who sold the club for 65 million on the condition that lerner invested 100 million because he was getting villa so cheap so he had to buy them players mentioned. Also somebody said i have a short memory how about when lerner put a blue nose in charge of our club against the fans wishes or how about the relegation battles we have been in yea we went to wembley but we lost them all apart from liverpool in the semi! ellis still goes the games does lerner? it was ellis team that went ro wembley an won things and they was a top 8 side at least i think its you lot that have short memorys! young downing benteke milner okore have won nothink! My point was we was better under ellis want to argue show us lerners medals or oneils medals?

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30 Jun 2015 14:54:42
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new player profile about, Kieran Richardson

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30 Jun 2015 12:31:02
Just red that genk will get 15% of the benteke fee. Delph is available for 8mil. Really gets me down man. We're going to have no spine at all with no money to spend.

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29 Jun 2015 22:47:40
is it just me or is anybody else thinking glen johnson would be a great player on a free transfer? also if benteke does leave how about andy carol i no he's had injury problems but i think there behind him now! and would anybody take downing back?

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29 Jun 2015 23:30:50
Are you 'Jack' the Liverpool fan using a different name? How many Liverpool rejects do want. I rate Andy Carroll but he's only fit for 1/4 of a season which renders him a poor option, and the less said about Glen Johnson the better. Wouldn't have downing back either. I know he improved last season playing number 10 but he is over the hill and too inconsistent, and I would much rather we play Grealish. Why not Kyle Walker off spurs now that they have bought Trippier, or Charlie Austin?

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29 Jun 2015 14:55:57
Liverpool fan here. Obviously to see what you guys made of our interest in benteke and I noticed a few of you giving your opinion about rodgers and I can't disagree he is like a kid in a sweet shop. We needed a top keeper and striker and he goes out and buys all sorts. Absolute joker. But would any of you be happy to let him go for the price being asked? It seems Liverpool aren't exactly popular over these ways but do you think he would be a good buy for us?

Cheers fellas. I do hope you do better this year, they are a proper club villa

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29 Jun 2015 15:14:48
I wouldn't say happy to let him go but £32.5m is a lot of money for us at the moment and would strengthen the team in multiple areas. As far as Liverpools interest (I don't mean to offend but probably will so sorry in advance) I will be a little bit more bitter if he chooses them as a next club. He says he wants champions league which you can't offer and he's not guaranteed a starting place. Where as at Villa he's the main man and we provide a better platform for him to get the big moves he wants and deserves rather than settling for the scouse. Would he be a good signing for you? Average team bar Sturridge and Coutinho, don't cross the ball or really use a target man so probably not as prolific as you'd like. Plus you've just brought a £29m youtube star so do you need him? Think your best bet is to just leave him where he is and let him flourish until a top 4 club come in for him rather than putting the brakes on a potentially promising career.

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29 Jun 2015 16:08:10
I agree totally with 'the villa'

But I'd like to say great post, and as far as I'm concerned any other supporter is welcome here, if they post like yours.
A previous pool fan kind of tainted the water towards you guys, so if you meet 'jack' please push him in the Mersey, and hold his head down!!

As regards Big Ben, sadly you don't try to play his type of football, in my opinion Rogers doesn't have a plan 'b' and won't resort to crosses, long balls, or direct football, so he doesn't bring anything to your team.
What does he have that Andy Carroll doesn't.
Yes he has a better touch, but he's a big man.
And sadly, other than Europa what do you offer that we don't??

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29 Jun 2015 16:19:42
I think the 32.5 million is a fair buyout clause for him - I would rather he stay but if anyone is willing to pay the full amount for him then we should let him go and wish him well. Like The Villain says I would rather he move to a champions league team as he really is good enough to be playing at that level and Liverpool simply can't offer that this season and will struggle to get there next season too. I think he would have been a better signing for you than Firmino because I question whether he could operate as effectively as a striker in the Premier League, and you have virtually the same player in Coutinho if the idea is to play him as a number 10. I think Clyne was a good buy for you too (well, literally anyone is better than Glen Johnson!). Unless Rodgers really gets his next signings right, he will be one of the first to go next season. He still hasn't replaced Suarez and he now needs to replace Stevie G and that will be a monumental task.

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29 Jun 2015 17:00:34
Sorry meant to say 'the villan'


(Read posts flackie before pressing send, you tw*t!)

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29 Jun 2015 17:34:16
Personally I'd be gutted to see the big man go. His strength and ability in the air means that his skill on the floor is overlooked; he has the lot
No, would not be happy to see him go, even for the buyout price.
If Liverpool consider £35 mil too little for Sterling, £32 mil should be considered somewhat of a bargain for Benteke (he gives you goals)
Hopefully the Liverpool hierarchy won't see it that way

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29 Jun 2015 19:24:15
if the big man has to go ,I hope it's abroad ,would not like him playing against us .

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29 Jun 2015 20:30:58
Mendax - I agree that Benteke is a very well rounded forward but he tends to play well in patches and has had a bit of injury trouble which must be taken into account. Comparing his price to Sterling is a bit unfair because we all know that English players always go for massively over inflated prices. A better comparison would be Diego Costa, similar type of powerful forward and he cost Chelsea 32 million. So on that basis I think his buyout clause is realistic.

Don't get me wrong I think we should do everything we can to keep him, but the price to me is fair. Anyway, nobody has jumped in and paid the buyout clause since Sherwood supposedly leaked it, which might have been a master stroke from him as it seems to have put off potential suitors :)

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29 Jun 2015 22:02:15
Hi Andy
I don't think it's even possible to talk about fair prices in today's transfer market
The fact that English players go for inflated prices does not mean they are worth it
All I know is that if I was any other team in the world and I had the chance of signing Benteke for 40 mil or Sterling for 40 mil, I know what I'd be doing with my money.
The Costa comparison is a valid one.But remember, Costa is about 5-6 years older than Benteke
End of the day mate, these prices are all ridiculous

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29 Jun 2015 22:42:26
Totally agree Mendax, the transfer prices are ridiculous at the moment, and I never once suggested Sterling was worth that kind of money. I don't rate him at all to be honest, I would rather have Townsend or Oxlade-Chamberlain any day, and I would definitely rather have Benteke.

Got to pull you up on your facts though - Benteke is 24 and although he looks about 50 Diego Costa is actually only 26, so there's only 2 years in it.

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29 Jun 2015 22:51:17
I was going along with the conspiracy theories around Costa's age Andy
I can't believe he's 26 mate.
Class player though

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30 Jun 2015 11:49:25
Thanks for the replies fellas. I am concerned about our style of play being an issue I am not sure that he provides enough movement off the ball and he is the main man at villa and he wouldn't be a at us. Another thing that concerns me is his work rate. I have not really seen him chasing down defenders and putting them under pressure after sleeping on it I think it would be better for both parties if Liverpool looked elsewhere About Liverpool being an average team everywhere else on the pitch I have to disagree. Can (when in midfield), lallana, sakho (he looks awkward but he is a great defender) coutinho, sturridge, ibe, Henderson is underrated also are all quality players in my opinion and with solid players like milner, Clyne, firminio added. I am going to stick my neck out and say we will get top four this year

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28 Jun 2015 19:09:20
i wonder if brendan rogers watched the womens world cup in canada if he did he has probably bid for half of them

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28 Jun 2015 19:52:39
Haha brilliant!!

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28 Jun 2015 18:05:57
Being a villa fan is like being on a boat you never know when the boats going to sink an beleive me villa are sinking big time i can't see us getting out of this one are so called best players are leaving no replacements coming in an no new news on takeover not good at all an not good for start of pre season this could b the year we go down like the titanic or less there's a massive takeover with an open checkbook because our 1st team needs bout six players in it an squad isn't good enough the bookies have villa at 3/1to go down wot does everyone think

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28 Jun 2015 19:31:41
yay another positive feel good post.

No take over? Your sure? Know this as a fact??

Ffs. You know as much as every one else out side of any negotiations. Nothing.

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28 Jun 2015 21:06:28
I'm no expert but I would imagine selling a 150 million pound business is a little more complex to negotiate than just simply writing Randy a cheque. These things take time and the exclusivity period has surely got to be seen as a positive, as the interested party must be very serious about buying and a ball park figure must have been agreed on prior to entering these later discussions.

We won't know for sure until an official announcement is made what is happening but surely the inability for the club to bring in significant new recruits this transfer window until new ownership is in place is a price worth paying for new owners.

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28 Jun 2015 21:17:26
So then mate you think villa r in a good place this moment then mate do u think takeover will happen

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28 Jun 2015 23:10:30
I have no idea if or when the takeover will happen and obviously during a sale we aren't in the best position as a club. But it has been made clear that the club entered a 6 week period of exclusivity meaning negotiations can only be had with one interested party. We are several weeks in to that period now so we will definitely have more information towards the end of July. I can't see that there would be much point in entering the exclusivity period unless the buyers were dead serious and a ball park figure agreed. If it goes through then the new owners will allocate funds and decide whether or not to keep or replace Sherwood. If it falls through then the board will know its up to them to fund us for next season and allocate Sherwood a portion of the TV money to strengthen the squad, without Lerner investing much if anything out of his own pocket.

Also the signing of Richards shows that any money Sherwood can generate through player sales are his to reinvest. The 65k per week for Richards wages was freed up by DB9, and the 4-5 million we offered for Begovic is pretty much what we raised by selling Weimann, Lowton, and Sylla.

So in summary we are not in a good place as you say, but I'd rather be where we are now with takeover talks ongoing and Lambert gone than where we were at this time last year. At least this is progress.

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03 Jul 2015 01:51:10
The take over will happen before 14th July, Villa will replace all those so called top players that leave, there will be a lot of new faces at the club and the club is on it's way up. Vlarr is stalling for the takeover to see what he can get out of us but to be honest I hope he goes, so too anyone else who is not 100% committed to the club. Trust me this club is going forward so have faith and things will begin to happen and all I say is this is no guess.

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28 Jun 2015 13:26:24
Maybe I'm being naive but I'm fairly relaxed about the Delph to Man City rumours.
I just don't see it happening. I love Delph for us but I would be really surprised if city thought he was going to significantly improve their squad
If he goes, I really could not see him getting that much game time
Hopefully it's just paper talk
If not, the " I'm staying because my teammates are like brothers" quote that we so admired him for making would taste a little bitter

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28 Jun 2015 16:06:51
I do kind of agree. But at the same time can't blame him, or club for the buy out.
I hope he stays, and would be a little let down if he leaves, but sadly not surprised.

I do disagree though, I think he is good enough to get in any prem teams side, and think with the right players around him feel he could be a workd class player.

If he, and anyone want out though, if the price is right, let them go. Would rather come every week to see eleven average players play their hearts out wanting to be there, than 11 great players giving a token effort looking for a move.

But, with this buyer(!?) waiting in the wings. Who knows!!

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28 Jun 2015 16:54:20
I don't think he passes the ball well enough for Man City Flackie
I say this based on the premise that they can buy practically any midfield player in the world
He'd struggle to get in the first 11 there for me

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28 Jun 2015 18:00:38
Fair enough mate.

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28 Jun 2015 20:58:02
I think they would be happy to just have him in the squad to bulk up the English quota and never seriously give him anything in the way of first team opportunities. With Richards, Milner and Sinclair off the books they have got to buy English players, hence the rumours regarding Wilshire and Sterling too.

If Delph's buyout clause is a low as is being reported someone will come in with an offer for him, even if its not City.

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27 Jun 2015 17:33:54
I believe Yevhen Konoplyanka is available in a free transfer. Good winger with pace, why haven't we gone for him?
Would be a good addition. Plus Lass Diarra ex arsenal, Chelsea and Real Madrid player is available for free

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27 Jun 2015 15:42:52
If delph does go we already have a replacement in gary gardner iam more concernd bout big ben going or staying

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27 Jun 2015 16:04:17
I would agree ,if GG stayed fit but would rather FD and GG were part of our midfield,

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27 Jun 2015 15:39:51
Is anyone gutted bout delph may be going.iam more gutted bout the price don't c him being that bigger loss realy same as vlar don't think he will play at city aresnal or united if spurs want him swap deal for demble much better player anyone agree

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27 Jun 2015 09:40:32
Does anybody else think that its strange all the big clubs want to try an win the premier league an champions league with a few of our players? I mean we stayed up by 1 place and went to wembley an give the worst performance ever not managing a shot on goal. I looked at that squad an thought awful duno what these big clubs were watching. 25mil for benteke yes please he don't even no the offside rule! 10 mill for delph yes please we can by nzonzi. delph can't pass rarely scores and he don't exactly stop goals. don't even get me started on "concrete ron" take the money an start again!

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27 Jun 2015 15:10:55
Blimey Mike, if you think Benteke is a poor player we are really in trouble
I'm scared to ask what you think of Gabby
The answer to your question is, no, not really. We have some stand out individual but no team
Our defence man for man is poor to mediocre and our midfield has no creativity.
Upfront, Benteke aside, we are awful
In a team that didn't have these handicaps Benteke would flourish.
I find it remarkable that he has scored as many goals as he has, bearing in mind the service he's had
I'm sure other teams see it that way aswell. Hence, the interest

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27 Jun 2015 07:59:26
I have got to agree I think Brendan Rodgers is a joke to football, for one he's useless he would of been better going to Southampton instead of Liverpool as he's brought most the team!for two every time a player comes up for sale Liverpool are always there like vultures and For three he looks like missus doughtfire

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27 Jun 2015 16:02:09
I agree mate rodgers always trys to get players on the cheap does my head in then he goes an spends 30mil on a player wot a idiot he is

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27 Jun 2015 02:16:12
Wots with the scousers moaning bout big ben he's better than all there strikers he won't go there anyway he will go chelsea or man u thought this was for villa fans not scousers who live in the past an chant songs that they won cl 5times how Said you don't hear real or milan singing how many times they won it liverpool were a big club not no more there miles off top 4 don't matter who they sign end of up the villa watch villa climb up the league now wait for takeovr to b completed then we will b a force once again we should atleast b aiming to b a top5 club or7 club in three years if backed an cl league within 5

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26 Jun 2015 07:22:37
I have to laugh at Brendan Rodgers, seems to me he's thinking if i buy all the players up for sale i might just win something. he's like a kid in a sweet shop, can't make up he's mind what he wants.

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26 Jun 2015 12:21:59
Every other window his transfers have been amusing for other clubs but it seems different this time around no? It doesn't even seem like he is making the decisions on transfers this summer. Do you really not think we have made good signings so far? The only time for laughter will be if we offer 30m for that lump yous have up front.
Jack!

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26 Jun 2015 13:23:43
I agree, 30m would be very funny, as wouldn't be enough!

Rodgers is useless. For me a perfect fit for the house burglars in red.

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26 Jun 2015 13:56:11
Flackie I agree Rodgers leaves a lot to be desired as a manager but with his transition to more of a head coach typed role this has to be viewed as a positive as his coaching of players seems to have been a success in his time here. On the other hand you are managed by Tim Sherwood, you will have the opportunity to experience a full season of his ineptitude if he survives the full season at your mess of a club. You are truly delusional if you think that ogre Benteke is worth anywhere near that.

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26 Jun 2015 14:08:42
That "Lump we have upfront" looked pretty useful in the cup semi final this year

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26 Jun 2015 14:22:05
Of course Mendax, play long ball, 'hoof it up' football is playing to his strengths and makes him look good. Your whole team and style was focused on just tossing it up to him so he could throw himself around using his strength. He would not have looked so useful playing in a team that likes to play football on the ground. Surely you can realise this? Or do you think he's worth more than 30m too? Hazard cost Chelsea about that just as a reminder.

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26 Jun 2015 15:39:30
Times and prices have moved on since Chelsea paid that for hazard jack. Benteke is worth every penny of that. I mean just look at his record against you lot with your 25 mil centre half and all you ball playing genius players. Quite a good little record to be fair and he's a proven 1 in 2 striker in our league. Let's look at balotelli 16 mil. Borini 12 mil lambert 7 mil Sturadge. Sterling you want 50 mil. Yeah right by the way if he is worth that. How many goals did the lot of them get last season. No more than the big lump as you put him. And hey we will keep him if you think he is so awful so don't work yourself up over it lol. By the way Brendan and his false white teeth will be well gone by Xmas.

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26 Jun 2015 16:14:11
You speak of 3 years as if it were a decade kingvilla? you're still not seeing the point here are you? Yes benteke has had good success against liverpool who haven't been able to defend under BR,congratulations. He scores when its hoofed up to him which is how TS got him scoring after Lambert tried to play decent football and suddenly Benteke suffered a drought, don't you remember? But in using that logic then two of the players who have named Borini and Lambert must also be worth that as they both stuck goals when we stuffed you lot at home on the same day Benteke with his amazing record against us couldn't score. That logic doesn't make quite so much sense now does it? Bentekes goal rate against us is 1 every other game. The same as Borinis record against you? If you head to the Chelsea page youll see I don't think Sterling is worth that I actually said anything over 25 is a joke. Still think he's worth over 30m? i'm not sure what your comment at the end about BR is meant to achieve? i'd happily have him out of the club. Maybe him and TS can join up once he's sacked before xmas with ye rock bottom. And if you want a more timely and relevant price comparison its more than Chelsea paid for Costa last summer, from a champions league club and his goals won them the league. Is benteke going to win anybody the league? No. But i guess times and prices have moved on since then.

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26 Jun 2015 17:31:01
Well if I'm not mistaken I seem to remember a couple of seasons ago Benteke being instrumental in the 3-1 demolition we gave you at Anfield, scoring twice and setting up Weimann with a back heel pass through two of your defenders. None of those goals were lump it up to him and hope. His second one he dribbled it effortless through your entire defence and slotted it away like it was nothing.

You may not think he's worth 30 million but being as your entire strike force scored 8 league goal last season you NEED him if your ever going to compete for the title again.

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26 Jun 2015 18:04:43
Calm down, Calm down. Don't get so worked up sweetheart you paid £35m for Carrol, £25m for Lallana, £20m for Loveren. Your clubs well known for over spending why get your back up now? Don't worry kid I'm sure you'll spend a absolute fortune and sneak into the europa places! As for Benteke, hopefully he's more ambitious than to move to Liverpool.

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26 Jun 2015 18:47:57
More ambitious than a never ending relegation scrap it seems too. you never know his amazing goal scoring might fire you to the top half. lol

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{Ed007's Note - Don't you usually put 'lol' at the end of something funny?}

26 Jun 2015 18:56:18
Whether he is worth it or not, is not the question! The fact is, who will pay it??
That's the price, want him? Pay it. If not fook off!!

Sadly I proper goal scorer is not like alloy wheels, you can't just take one.

Any way how crap is your club?? Fans are the boring they come on our forum for entertainment.
No one in a shell suit here son.

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26 Jun 2015 19:33:10
Do you think Benteke could get them top half with Sherwood in charge? I don't see it being possible Ed hence the lol. Was more for the purpose of banter and stoking up these villains than actually finding it hilarious. Do you think they could get top half keeping Benteke Ed, really? Whether he's worth or not isn't a question but it has been the whole point of the discussion. How crap is my club? Come on mate look at your own.The liverpool forum generates the most traffic of all these sites i suggest you take a look. i'm here for your entertainment not my own. Son. i'm attracting a crowd making you crawl out of the woodwork to defend your club. You lot were starting to become so insignificant nobody cared to poke fun especially with Birmingham a distant memory. Who knows though keep the faith with Timmy ye could be playing them very soon. Or maybe your mystery billionaire will come in and get you into Europe. That didn't go too well with Randy though did it.

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26 Jun 2015 20:05:13
I will allow to you to re-read what I have written Ed as it appears you have completely misunderstood everything I tried to say? My comments to you ended with 'Do you think they could get top half keeping Benteke Ed, really?' everything after that was aimed at the other posters? None of what I said after that was of any relevance to your comment about the lol so i'm not even sure why youd think it was? I also never referred to you as Son so i'm unsure why you are referring to me as son? My comments aimed at you were quite respectful and included no insults or personal attacks. Maybe it is you who is due meds? Or maybe your mother should have just swallowed you to save the embarassment of realising I never said anything to you but posed a question whereas both your comments have been hoping to do nothing but antagonise me. So pipe down Ed and realise you're in the wrong here and have a bit of respect for people who afford you the same.

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{Ed007's Note - So you didn't type:

'i'm here for your entertainment not my own. Son...'

You do realise I'm not an Aston Villa fan as well don't you? Maybe you should try and make your posts a little more concise, that would save any further confusion on your part. So now that's that covered, how about you pipe down son, wind your neck in and show ME respect or you'll be removed from the sites, see how simple it is for me, sonny. I'll let you off this time without embarrassing you to make me a public apology, but take this as a valuable life lesson son, you might even get a bird if you become a nicer person. Now get back in your kennel son.}

26 Jun 2015 20:17:57
Jack me old son, You have had your fun and in the process shown everyone on here what sort of gonk you are.
Liverpool`s forum might well generate more traffic than other forums, that does not surprise me if they are all like you.
My son in law supports Liverpool and I mean supports them, he has just said to me what a total idiot you are
You are rude and are well short on common sense.
My advice would be to go and find the biggest beanstalk you can, it`s up to you what you do with it ?

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26 Jun 2015 20:39:58
Jury's still out on Sherwood, he's been with us for less than half season and was with Spurs for about the same. He's never had a transfer window to operate in and is hamstrung this season until the takeover speculation is concluded. But every Villain on this site will be behind him nonetheless, because we aren't judging people before they have been given a chance. Rodgers on the other hand nearly won the league solely because of Suarez (Not his signing) and would have won if he could have been astute enough to defend a 3-0 lead vs Palace with 10 minutes to go. Since taking charge he has wasted well in excess of 100 million on dross like Lovren and Balotelli. I think that's enough evidence to make a fair assessment. Verdict = he's %$#&.

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26 Jun 2015 20:49:12
Hi Ed.
In my last post I said to Jack "what sort of Gonk you are"
And it has come out as Pontefract Cake, not sure how this has happened as I write my posts in Microsoft word and copy and paste to the forum !!

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26 Jun 2015 22:17:41
Well this kid pretty much sums up why Liverpool are so easy to hate

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26 Jun 2015 22:25:52
Ok Ed I understand

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26 Jun 2015 23:17:30
For the attention of Ed007. *******GIBBERISH DELETED********

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25 Jun 2015 21:38:45
I hope your right king villa ill will av to let u pick my loto numbers if your right mate who we going to b signing nxt

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24 Jun 2015 17:06:54
Does anyone no if roshain hepburn will feature next season seen him in reserves only 16 wot a talent we have there he int yhe only one thou there's about six that are pushing for squad places nxt season so future looks in good shape

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25 Jun 2015 18:57:35
I wouldn't have thought that he would feature too much simply because of his age. I can see Sherwood giving him some substitute appearances in cup matches, but little if anything in the league. Who knows though, he could dramatically improve and push for a squad place, we could be struck with injuries and need to call him up. etc.

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24 Jun 2015 17:02:19
Why is every one ripping gabby for he is a good player but injuries have happend to him not so long ago he was a england player they would be plenty of teams who would take him he's stil got a role to play at villa we would miss him if he went

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24 Jun 2015 17:26:49
Get away with ya.

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24 Jun 2015 17:47:31
I think you are deluded.
Gabby is villa through and through, yes.
Gives all he has, yes.
Good enough as a prem striker? No.

Look at his goals to game ratio.
Must be one of worse in prem era.

We deserve better.

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24 Jun 2015 20:06:11
I'm with Flackie on this one
Would Tottenham, Everton or Liverpool be happy to keep Gabby if he were from their local ? I don't think so
Gabby is almost a metaphor for the depth to which our ambitions have been lowered as Villa fans
We may be in the gutter but we should be looking at the stars

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24 Jun 2015 20:55:02
Spot on.
Sadly I'm not convinced gabby would be a good championship player.

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24 Jun 2015 13:20:13
Got to be some truth in this delph to city rumour. 1/4 he moves. Hope this isn't true but it looks like it 😭

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24 Jun 2015 15:28:30
Delph to city if the right money is offered I'd say is a possibility but this link to Liverpool in a cash and player deal I think is bs. If city stump up £25 million I think we may loose him. Any less I'd tell them to go away. Someone like Delph needs to think will I be a dead cert to start at city. At villa he is captin and one of our main men. I think he will stay to be honest but only time will tell.

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25 Jun 2015 19:01:10
I think you will see rumours for many of our players (the ones that are worth buying at least!) simply due to the uncertainty surrounding the takeover. Hopefully its nothing, but if City are playing on the uncertainty surrounding the club, then we shouldn't entertain anything less than KingVilla's valuation.

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24 Jun 2015 11:34:46
This take over is killing me I just want it done clubs seems to be doing there business very early in this window, I taught when we got Richards in that we were doing the same but all is gone quite again, I just want randy to say what's going on if 100% the sale of the club will happen and what date, if it doesn't happen is he going to give some ££££ as usual we are left in limbo

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24 Jun 2015 13:21:14
It will happen soon, I don't think fans should be overly optimistic about mega investment though.
We are being linked with a number of players who have some value, andros Townsend seems to be pretty concrete and has been reported across widespread newspapers. On the basis that he would cost in the region of 12m you'd guess that kind of funding certainly isn't coming from Lerner.

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23 Jun 2015 22:02:49
Does any1 kno when the takeover be done an who it will actually be an how much funds will be actually made available or will we be in the same position nxt season any thoughts please let me kno thanks

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24 Jun 2015 10:13:55
No one knows anything for sure until it's done and we are told. Any new owner must come into this realising that there new investment needs big investment to take us back up the table and away from the scraps of last few seasons. I still believe it to be a Chinese guy called wang jianlin who is worth about 25 billion but I have nothing concrete on this and is just speculation until something is concrete.

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23 Jun 2015 21:15:02
Think about this why would you want to leave villa now right with a new owner on the horizon an rumoured to be spending mega big at villa don't you think benteke vlaar want to c wot the ambitions r of new owers first because just say new owners want villa to be like city mcity now that finace play has been lifted villa would b going in right direction so we could keep r best players an be in for best players in world or europe does any one agree

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23 Jun 2015 22:05:03
I hope your right!.
But. Sadly think it may be a pipe dream

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23 Jun 2015 23:32:55
Nice in theory but that's just it. Nothing is confirmed. Plus even if new owners come in they aren't just going to double all the players wages just to stop them leaving. Why would someone like Vlaar take the risk of a takeover not happening if he has the option to move to Man U and is guaranteed a pay rise. I would have thought the level of uncertainty would encourage players to bail out now in case it all goes south and they end up stuck. Not saying it will or won't happen but the possibility is definitely there. The quicker the takeover is finalised the less likely players are to go, so let's keep our fingers crossed.

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24 Jun 2015 10:17:04
Well said andyvilla I totally agree.

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23 Jun 2015 14:26:13
Another picture of Jack Grealish has surfaced showing him drinking from a 6 litre bottle of vodka - are these recurring incidents something to be worried about? It wouldn't surprise me if they keep being leaked out by the Irish media because he wouldn't play for them against England.

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{Ed007's Note - Or leaked by the English media to turn the public against him because he is going to pick playing for Eire. The Scottish press done the same - and continue doing the same - with Aiden McGeady and James McCarthy.
He's a young rich lad on holiday, Andy, I don't see what he's doing wrong apart from the old boring PC bull about him being an example to youngsters etc etc.}

23 Jun 2015 16:17:03
Let them try and create this poor opinion of him!!
If the club and us villa fans stand by him, support him and appreciate what he is, he wouldn't ever leave us, and would continue to give us everything.
Screw everyone out side the villa bubble.

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23 Jun 2015 17:27:58
Personally I think what he does in his private life is his business and not the media's, the fans or the clubs concern - unless it starts affecting what he does on the pitch. If that's the case then the fans will turn on him and the club will discipline him. At the end of the day he's a 19 year old with a lot of money - what do people expect him to do with it!

Re-reading my original comment I think it came across a little unfair on the Irish media, but Ed tidied it up nicely. There is obviously some faction of the media that has an issue with the lad and is playing out some sort of agenda.

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23 Jun 2015 17:39:49 Stop him being a young lad, seeing his mates, and actually living the dream and we would lose him. Let his football do the talking, if it starts affecting that, so be it, till then??. Have fun jack! All I say is, nothing illegal! And be safe!

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23 Jun 2015 18:02:45
It seems that Grealish is being hung out to dry for doing what nearly everyone I work with (of all ages) tend to brag and talk constantly about as if it were original, funny or even interesting.
The irony is, I then hear them saying what an idiot Grealish is.
Staggering amount of double standards
I don't read tabloids, so I don't know the minutiae. But, If his behaviour is wrong, then it's wrong for everyone.
As for the role model for kids argument ? If you have kids and you're not a bigger role model to then than some 19 year old footballer, you need a parenting course.

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23 Jun 2015 18:40:44
Spot on!!
Some times your posts do get my back up!! But couldn't agree more here!

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23 Jun 2015 20:07:24
Can't believe I'd get anyones back up Flackie
Even me and Kingvilla are luvved up these days !

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23 Jun 2015 21:24:22
Haha!!
Sorry big man!

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23 Jun 2015 23:13:34
That's the problem Mendex. I'm feeling left out!

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23 Jun 2015 23:35:11
My main concern is that it might affect Jacks confidence on the pitch and hinder his development if he has the media constantly in his mind. Hopefully he can rise above it and Sherwood can keep him on the straight and narrow until the media loses interest.

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24 Jun 2015 07:03:32
Thanks ed!!
I think that's exactly the concern Andy.
But I also think in Tim we have exactly that.
But as long as us as villa supporters stand by him, with a united front he will be fine!
He needs to know there is a line not to cross, but in the sane instance, he needs to be a normal 19 year old.

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22 Jun 2015 21:54:43
Here Chelsea are in for Benteke if that's the case why not ask for bamford and remy plus £10 million bamford is valued at £10 million and remy at £15 million any thoughts after all he is not signing a new contract with us.

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22 Jun 2015 22:57:53
remy worth ten at best for me and bamford totally unproven in prem surely can't be worth 5m never mind ten,

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22 Jun 2015 22:11:01
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new player profile about, Carlos Sanchez

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22 Jun 2015 14:44:30
Just consider: last four transfer windows have been extremely frustrating. Hardly any money spent, loans and lower league players purchased. Each of the windows has featured some kind of statement from learner suggesting no money will be spent.

My concern is that there has been NO 'period of exclusivity' granted to any party. It's just clouds the absence of any transfer activity for yet another window. Whilst the fans sit back thinking negotiations are ongoing, learner sits back knowing he won't be spending a penny and the transfer window will close. We will receive the new TV money, wages have already been reduced, and learners business plan continues. The 'period of exclusivity' will go some way in exciting fans enough to sell season tickets.

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22 Jun 2015 15:46:26
I love these positive nonsensical, talk crap posts.

Lerner through all his faults backed all his managers.
He gave them a brief to get rid of the over paid useless tripe that a certain Irish numpty brought. They all knew this, as did us the fans. He still gave them money to spend, but also made it clear they had to off load.
These are facts, if the playing staff brought in was not up to standard that is the scouts, and managers fault. Not the owner.
He has not lied, fed us rubbish, or not told us fact.
Why would that be the case now???

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22 Jun 2015 16:29:01
Totally agree

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22 Jun 2015 16:31:11
Yeahhh, what flackie said. Nicely put

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22 Jun 2015 16:44:27
Spot on Flackie.
I know its a banter site but my god some people are so negative.

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22 Jun 2015 18:19:25
First and foremost Lerner is a business man and knows you have to spend money to make money. If he doesn't invest and we go down next season he CAN'T sell the club for anything like the current valuation. It makes no sense to risk not improving the team as we cut it so fine this season. He splashed the cash for DB9 when things were looking grim a few seasons back.

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22 Jun 2015 20:56:59
But was conservative again last year having just scraped through the year before.
I hope the takeover happens so the argument is effectively moot.

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22 Jun 2015 10:58:20
I've not watched any of the copa America. Just wanted to ask if any of you have been following it and have spotted any realistic possible signings you feel we should look at. I've always been a fan of the cb zapata and feel he could add to our squad. He is also out of contract soon. Any suggestions guys.

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22 Jun 2015 18:20:52
So often though the South American imports just don't cut it in the premier league unless they are the world class players like Aguero and Sanchez - it would be a risky way to spend any funds we have.

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21 Jun 2015 21:38:43
Villa should sign ronadinho would be good signing anyone agree plus he's a free

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21 Jun 2015 22:19:50
villa1980 from the inside information you have given us on the rumours page I would have thought you would know who we are going to sign !!

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21 Jun 2015 22:42:10
Disagree mate sorry. He's been past it for about 4 years maybe 5. All we could use him for is last 10 mins if we need a goal Try and get a free kick and hope he still got that part of his game. Taking that into account and the wages he would want it's a big no no. Far better out there we could use wages on. Good young talent.

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22 Jun 2015 02:25:27
He might sell a few extra shirts though $$$$$$$$$.

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21 Jun 2015 11:40:15
Line up for next year

Guzan

Walker Richards Okore Amavi

Sanchez

Townsend Delph Sinclair

Grealish

Benteke

This is just my opinion We would need 30 mill to sign these players but that amount will only be availible if the takeover is completed. Every one is hoping for a billionaire but i doubt that will happen

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21 Jun 2015 11:40:15
Line up for next year

Guzan

Walker Richards Okore Amavi

Sanchez

Townsend Delph Sinclair

Grealish

Benteke

This is just my opinion We would need 30 mill to sign these players but that amount will only be availible if the takeover is completed. Every one is hoping for a billionaire but i doubt that will happen

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23 Jun 2015 17:52:11
micah angelo roniachio vargas townsand pauolino dhelp yevhan firminho benteke list of other players abate [lb] cabaya [md] walker [lb] chulker[cb] schulp [lbl] gignac [st] lukas [gk] jong [md] caudrado [md] bamford [st] above all ronaldhino

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21 Jun 2015 11:31:45
Although we haven't yet purchased any players the fact we are linked with so many is for me a good sign that a takeover is pretty much a done deal. I wish we could find out who they are. I do also feel though on a slightly pessimistic front that if we are being given a good sized kitty that we would be linked with some slightly better standard of players. Kyle walker being available is a no brainier in my opinion with lowton gone, vlaar off we need to stregthen desperately in defence. Opinions?

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20 Jun 2015 18:44:37
I see spurs are willing to listen to offers for walker we should definitely be in for him imo

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20 Jun 2015 20:53:17
Absolutely - He knows Tim, he knows Villa so would seem the perfect fit. Just hope the funds are available with these take over talks on going.

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20 Jun 2015 22:55:02
I agree.
Was the best full back we have seen at villa in nearly a decade!

I'm hearing lots re remi, with Big Ben going other way.
Works for me, if money is also right!.

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20 Jun 2015 23:29:14
Bite their hands off.
Blimey, we're all agreeing on this one

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21 Jun 2015 08:08:59
Get in there quick! Seemed to love his time at Villa on loan and knows Tim

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20 Jun 2015 16:05:14
Has anyone else read that Benteke is Liverpools number 1 transfer target according to Ray Houghton? Then why sign the three players before hand including a striker by the name of Danny Ings??

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20 Jun 2015 18:29:13
Because their entire strike force scored 8 goals last season in the league.
Sturridge = 4
Lambert = 2
Balotelli = 1
Borini = 1

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20 Jun 2015 01:40:23
Does anyone no when the takeovers going to be completed an if so who its going to be . i think we need a lb / rb/ cm who can score also a winger plus two strikers maybe three if the big man goes

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20 Jun 2015 02:33:45
Nobody knows what's happening yet - not even KingVilla. There are no-disclosure agreements in place to protect the party(s) involved and a six week period of exclusivity. If a deal is reached it will be announced sometime in the next 5 weeks, if not then we will know sometime in the next 5 weeks.

At least it keeps an air of drama and suspense around proceedings.

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20 Jun 2015 12:14:57
i hope its the chineese guy he's loaded worth about 7billion that will be nice an hopefully give ts an open checkbook to make us a force again

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19 Jun 2015 23:14:00
Vlaar is no Melberg, Larson or indeed Mc Grath , Seen him many times this year and has looked clumsy let him go and get somebody decent beside Micah . We need a few decent wingers . I remember the villa midfield being Milner, Downing, Young & Barry . Rebuild with a point of purpose UTV

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23 Jun 2015 18:20:14
Yeah that's the midfield quality we need. We're part of the way there. Delph, Sinclair's Gil, three players of excellent quality. Sanchez as a holding midfield shield in front of the defence.The new boy Richards. Clark and Bennet have come along well. Needs Sherwood to get over his problem with Gil. I think Gil's a goal scorer, but even if Benny stays we need a Charlie Austin to run alongside him. If he goes, then two quality strikers. Problem is Lerner won't sanction any big cheques. We need the club sold ASAP. That doesn't seem to be happening.

Even with existing squad, we should finish around mid table next season. Worried over Gil situation. Don't want another bomb squad emerging, even if its just one player. Gil should be involved. Its inexplicable that he's not.

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19 Jun 2015 20:32:09
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new confirmed transfer entitled, Confirmed signings 2015-06-19

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19 Jun 2015 16:45:25
Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any views on the fact that VMF has closed? Wasn't a project of Lerners or is it just coincidence?

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23 Jun 2015 18:23:13
Not really. Huddleston's injured and is staying put. Who knows about the French left back. I would've pushed harder for Austin or Vardy. We need goals! Like the signing of Richards though!

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19 Jun 2015 09:52:00
I think by this time next week people we will have 2 more players in. Huddlestone I think today or by Monday then the french left back we after by this time next week shorty followed by townsend. Do you all rate these 3 and would you be happy with sherwoods transfer dealings so far. I think the dealings we doing /being linked to are good players that would take us forward and we slowly getting rid of the boys that need to move on as well. Happy with tim so far and keep it up I'd say.

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19 Jun 2015 14:48:58
I hope all three of these come off mate!

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19 Jun 2015 18:11:13
Not so sure about Huddlestone - never scores and has literally no pace, which I think outweighs his passing ability. Townsend would be a fantastic buy though.

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19 Jun 2015 00:16:25
I think we need to buy some decent quality, move away from the drop zone for once and then start blooding our youngsters personally. Get rid of my feet are in concrete ' Ron and add to Richards quality especially at the back.

I agree I think it's going to be a good window, well far better than we have of late.

Hernandez alongside Big Ben ( if he stays could be aka Dalian and Saunders esq)

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19 Jun 2015 12:34:02
Hernandez would be a great buy !

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19 Jun 2015 23:30:30
What about remy and ba and sell benteke both good goal scorers and Townsend and maybe a cheeky bid for song

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18 Jun 2015 21:43:52
Would anyone else like to see us return to the old circle badge? I think it's much more classy than our current one. Obviously it will need to be modernised but I think it's very classy.

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19 Jun 2015 14:48:17
I personally wouldn't!

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20 Jun 2015 18:46:44
Hairy muff, must just be me then lol

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18 Jun 2015 18:58:43
If Liverpool have just turned down 40 million for sterling then Benteke must be worth 60 million. Grrr to that buy out clause

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17 Jun 2015 23:05:21
Richards in is a really good statement of intent. Hope there are a few more to follow. Can't be doing with another season of scrapping it out the bottom. I also don't want TS to assemble an old boys club of ex Spurs players.

Enough false dawns in our lives, get the takeover done and let's get our Villa back.

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17 Jun 2015 13:44:29
Krul

Richards senderos vlarr amavi

Delph song Huddleston

Lennon Sinclair

Benteke

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17 Jun 2015 17:05:44
Why are we all so keen to write off Guzan??
Is he not due a chance with a new look back line.
Let's be honest, if not for this man, we would of been relegated at least twice in last three seasons. He has had s**t in front of him, yet consistently preformed well.
Yes he has made a couple of errors, but for the main has been amazing.
Personally I'm not sure there is a better shot stopper in league.

How many goals would we concede with a half decent back line and him in goal??
If had faith in what's in front of him he would go from strength to strength.
We should stand by him, show faith in him, he could be the best in league

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17 Jun 2015 18:00:23
Butland
Richards Okore brooks Williams
Huddlestone
Hendrick Delph
Grealish
Austin remey

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17 Jun 2015 20:39:15
I agree with Flackie fully. Guzan has been a beast for us over the past few seasons and apart from the very occasional error, which every keeper has now and again (Courtois getting done by Charlie Adam, Neuer conceding near post in the champions league) has been one of the premier leagues best keepers.

If he can improve his distribution, and gets a number 2 behind him to push him consistently, especially now he is number 1 for his country too, he really could be one of the top few keepers in the league. I certainly wouldn't want him replaced with someone as inexperienced as Butland.

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18 Jun 2015 07:12:22
Butland with a run in a side will be in the top 5 keepers in the world within the next 2 seasons belive me. I agree guzan has saved us and does in my eyes deserve a crack with a better back 4. My problem is our manager don't rate him so I'd rather see butland bought than a Brentford keeper or Heaton. Trust me when I say butland would be the way to go. Although I must ad I don't see Stoke selling without a big bid.

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18 Jun 2015 10:26:56
I don't argue with you on butland, but with a more trusted back line, I also think Guzan would be.
And we already have him.

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18 Jun 2015 12:37:07
I agree

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18 Jun 2015 13:55:57
Looks like we are in the midst of a take over.
Buying quality.
And kingvilla and I are agreeing.

What has happened??? Have I woke in an altered reality?! Lol

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17 Jun 2015 13:44:29
Krul

Richards senderos vlarr amavi

Delph song Huddleston

Lennon Sinclair

Benteke

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17 Jun 2015 13:26:20
Villa sign Richards, need REMY now along with a good left back a solid goal keeper and a midfielder that can score 10, 15 goals a season we need the Chinese to step up and give sherwood an open check book and break the bank and hopefully try for a Europa league spot next season so we can keep hold of our good players and stop selling them at on to the top 4 sides, Man City have a laugh Delph is not for sale

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17 Jun 2015 12:36:33
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Stoke Fixture List

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17 Jun 2015 04:13:15
Here is one for you guys. King villa to be appointed Aston villa chairman under the new ownership of Mr wang jianlin. Rest assured our great club is in good hands. Lol

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17 Jun 2015 08:20:36
You do have to wonder whether a focus group of the posters on this site could do a better job of running the club, especially in the transfers department.

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17 Jun 2015 04:06:42
The takeover will happen as soon as July 10th. That in mind I'd like us to go for Austin, martiel the young lad at Monaco, remy, and I'd still put a cheeky one in for a tevez or a rvp. Hi wages but not impossible and I here tevez will be available and we have had a brief look.

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16 Jun 2015 21:35:49
It looks like we will need a complete overhaul of the strike force this summer regardless of what happens with the takeover. Weimann isn't wanted, Kozak's future looks up in the air, Benteke has a high chance of moving on and that just leaves Gabby.

So we will need at least two strikers possibly as many as four. Who should we be going for if a takeover happens, and who should we go for if it doesn't?

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16 Jun 2015 14:41:22
5-3-2? Guzan Richards Clark okore Sinclair Amavi Delph Grelish Huddlestone Gabby + one other I'm still hoping Tekers or Austin! If Tekers goes and we get Townsend replace Amavi or Sinclair sub????????????????

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16 Jun 2015 15:16:56
You'd still have Gabby in the side ?

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16 Jun 2015 16:28:12
Gabby??? Really??
Ffs, fair play to gabby, personally I think it's amazing he plays for the team he supports, I'm so jealous.
But if he was arrested and sent to prison for impersonating a foot baller, I don't think he would have cause to appeal.

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16 Jun 2015 18:20:24
Looking at the team u could take Gabby out for Townsend!

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16 Jun 2015 19:16:08
You could take gabby out for one of the chuckle brothers

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16 Jun 2015 19:41:53
I have always felt that when Gabby plays we are a Ten man side.
He has had many years to prove himself at Villa and apart from a couple of seasons he alwys comes up short, well short.
He is not for me at all.

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16 Jun 2015 21:31:03
It's probably about time he stopped being a first team starter but we shouldn't consider selling him. He's like part of the furniture, like a faithful old dog that smells a bit like piss but you love it anyway.

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16 Jun 2015 22:00:36
Thats part of the problem Andy he is part of the furnature, most feel the same, he is a villa fan and that's where it should end.
He is not good enoughat at this level, championship at best.

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16 Jun 2015 22:56:19
Club loyalty is a rare thing these days and if the opportunity is there it should be embraced. I agree he's not good enough but I think he can be used effectively as an impact sub or against slow teams where his pace can be exploited. I can't help but feel that his loyalty can rub off on others (like Delph) and he serves as an example to those coming through the academy (Grealish) that you can come through and retain a first team place. Don't underestimate the effect he has off the field, although I totally agree with you about him on the pitch. We should get his wages down next time his contract is up for renewal.

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16 Jun 2015 14:41:22
5-3-2? Guzan Richards Clark okore Sinclair Amavi Delph Grelish Huddlestone Gabby + one other I'm still hoping Tekers or Austin! If Tekers goes and we get Townsend replace Amavi or Sinclair sub????????????????

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16 Jun 2015 13:19:35
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Sherwood Needs Time To Prove Himself At Villa

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16 Jun 2015 07:45:18
Why did they put up a statement about a sale with so little information on it and they have said nothing for the last 2 weeks, west ham are looking to get cabeye, remy, them type of players in surely they wouldn't cost an arm and a leg van der varrt has moved aswell we have been crying for this type of player, I would love to wake up some morning with the take over complete and feel like the city fans did when they were taken over, but supporting the villa has always been a struggle so I guess I'm not going to feel like that anytime soon

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16 Jun 2015 10:19:03
If I wasn't like that Mick, it wouldn't be supporting Villa
I feel your pain mate

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16 Jun 2015 00:11:17
An unknown club in for tevez.

Am I the only one here praying that it's us!!! Lol

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16 Jun 2015 07:04:35
He's a great player but I thought he wanted to go back to play in Argentina because of his family. Remember that stuff with city where he just left and played golf for ages. Also it might be a little bit too much of a step down - Champions League finalist to perennial relegation scrappers.

Also KingVlla posted this rumour on the other page which almost confirms it to be utter drivel. Never-the-less I will cross my fingers and join you in prayer Flackie!

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15 Jun 2015 19:26:10
That's the third name thrown into the hat just want it done so we can start the rebuild

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15 Jun 2015 20:04:39
I have no doubt there will be even more names thrown into the pot, so I am just waiting for it to happen, what will be will be.
As long as they have the clubs best interests at the top of their to do list I will be happy.
Then of course its financial backing, and all the support needed to help Tim do his job.

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15 Jun 2015 06:48:44
{Ed001's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Loftus-Cheek Would Do Well To Listen

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14 Jun 2015 13:57:27
Would love to use benteke for a swap deal with Spurs Townsend + dembele + 12m ish our way

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14 Jun 2015 14:48:20
Why??

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14 Jun 2015 15:14:27
step away from the crack pipe sir. you clearly had too much

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14 Jun 2015 16:58:46
Must be a spurs fan
Off load rubbish for quality

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14 Jun 2015 20:21:58
Nah - Cash only. We aren't a bank, and if they want to trigger his release clause they should have to stump up every penny of it upfront or else we consider it not met.

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15 Jun 2015 10:05:04
Why? Because we don't the highest quality of players!!!
I'm a realist. Without a swap deal we would struggle to attract players of this caliber. I would even say throw walker in and call it square. You make out we are better than these players when intact they are far better than the options we have available and we would struggle to get two three players like this in.

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15 Jun 2015 13:12:16
Ruffall86. Are you saying we couldn't attract the players you mention because they wouldn't come here if we offered cash ? (take Benteke out of it)
If that is the case we have no chance of "attracting" them in a swap deal either
Players are not going to come to a club they don't fancy just because it suits the club who want to get rid of them.
Your point makes no sense mate

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15 Jun 2015 15:46:31
Mendax is spot on - The clubs agree a price for the players between themselves, the players have no involvement. If the players doesn't agree on personal terms with the recipient club then the deal won't happen. Like what happened with Ricky Lambert in January - the clubs had it all agreed (5 million) and he chose to stay at Liverpool. You still have to 'attract' the player regardless of the type of transfer deal the clubs agree on.

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15 Jun 2015 15:52:56
Yeah he's right, let's do a deal to lose a quality player, to bring players in who don't want to be here.
That's worked so well in the past, Ireland and Milner spring to mind.
And no, I don't think they are better than we have, or that Spurs is a better option.

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16 Jun 2015 07:10:28
If the rumours that spurs are close to signing Trippier are true then Kyle Walker is definitely a player we should look at. Play Richards at CB alongside Clark or Okore, add a half decent left back and Guzan between the sticks and that's a solid looking back line.

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16 Jun 2015 10:21:02
Good shout Andy. I'd love that
What is it with Spurs and fullbacks. They seem to collect them

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16 Jun 2015 18:23:28
To be fair Mendax we have got a fair few as well, except ours are garbage!

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17 Jun 2015 14:47:24
True enough

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14 Jun 2015 11:34:00
{Ed001's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Strange Choice For Forest

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12 Jun 2015 07:07:25
I see spuds would want 5m for kaboul would he replace vlaar knows the league but has good days and bad days

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12 Jun 2015 08:33:33
Wouldn't go anywhere near Kaboul personally. Looks average at best plenty of better options out there, especially for 5m

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12 Jun 2015 12:22:43
Good god, no. He's worse than Vlaar. We can spend £5 mil a lot better than that

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12 Jun 2015 18:40:13
Kaboul surely has to be a No No

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13 Jun 2015 05:29:38
I really don't understand how spurs seem to get so much money for their cast offs - Wouldn't pay 5 quid for Kaboul let alone 5 million.

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12 Jun 2015 07:03:36
We would we get Kyle walker back, his career has sort of stoped I know he was injured for a long time last season but I rate him highly, him and Richards we would have lots of pace and power, if Big Ben goes who do you think we will bring in to replace him, were going to need goals 20+ and gabby hasn't got nowhere near that

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12 Jun 2015 08:32:11
I honestly think we've got a good chance of getting Charlie Austin. Guaranteed playing time and by the looks of Richards' reported 65k a week contract we are now offering decent wages. In regards to Walker i would love him back, solid in both attack and defence with plenty of pace. Could see him costing a pretty penny but I'd snap him up if he became available

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12 Jun 2015 10:54:24
Probably only offering Richards 65k as there is no fee. austin would be around 10mil fee then wages.

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12 Jun 2015 12:20:43
Yeahhh to be fair after i wrote that i thought about it and guess the wages are just freed up from Bent leaving and Vlarr probably following. Regardless I'm still optimistic, it feels nice been linked to proven players I've actually heard of for a change!

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13 Jun 2015 20:25:13
Sherwood said that funds were available for him to make signings so long as he could convince the board. It wouldn't be hard to convince anyone we need strengthening in defence, but I think that until a takeover is sorted or Benteke leaves the board won't put the money in for Austin. Richards is free and his wages are covered by the departure of Bent. Austin would require a substantial investment, and I think another team will have unfortunately snapped him up before we can throw our at in the ring.

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10 Jun 2015 20:48:43
Are the rumours true re this take over?
All very quiet.
Just we need to get moving, or the window will close.

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10 Jun 2015 22:13:07
No Disclosure agreements - won't be confirmed until its signed and sealed.

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10 Jun 2015 22:53:39
I get that, just can't believe no one got any details.
Is it the Chinese guy? The yank?
Suspense is killing me!

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10 Jun 2015 16:41:26
I know you will all think me stupid!
But glen Johnson as well Micah Richards both released by respective clubs.

Wouldn't both be worth a shout, 100% better than we have, both experienced and would solve our full back dilemma.
(I know both right footed, but I'm sure Richards played on left for citeh)

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10 Jun 2015 18:23:12
Micah Richards could be used at CB too. The only issue I can see is the wages.

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10 Jun 2015 19:14:05
Richards is a no brainer for me; powerful, quick, brave and a Villa fan to boot.
Would snap him up as a centre back and not bother offering Vlaar a new deal
The bloke reckons he can go a step higher than us ?
I'd contend he's not good enough
Concrete Ron ? Before it's set maybe.

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10 Jun 2015 19:24:52
Can't see the point in trying to improve on an injury-ridden Vlaar to get someone who spends even more time on the sidelines injured in Micah Richards.

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10 Jun 2015 19:52:06
Didn't even think of it like that. That's a great shout

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11 Jun 2015 00:54:56
Not sure of what his injury record has been at Fiorentina this year
Worth checking out if we were to make a move, obviously.

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11 Jun 2015 08:07:34
I agree with Mendex.
Vlaar www never world class at villa. Had glimpses of brilliance, but in the main never set the world on fire.

Richards has had his fair share of injuries, but to be fair, reading through, they are mainly muscle injuries, which suggests, if managed correctly, no long term damage, like for example with ligament or tendon.

Wanting to play for a club, to me, is half the battle, if it's true, and he is a fan, would probably get that extra 20% out of him, as it would mean more.
For me, vlaar saw us as a stepping stone, and is always looking for a way out.

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{Ed001's Note - just one thing on Richards, one of his managers, I think it was Mancini if I remember correctly, said of him that he was the last on the training ground and first back in the changing rooms every session. That is why his career nosedived at Man City, his attitude stinks.}

11 Jun 2015 08:17:03
Bloody hell ed, you truly are a shining light in the gloom that is this forum!! ;)

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11 Jun 2015 21:23:53
Maybe its we shouldn't judge him too harshly for this. He's never had a sniff of first team football since they bought Zabaletta and after years of knowing you aren't getting picked why would you try your hardest in training? Maybe a move to a club he supports where first team football is a very strong possibility will totally change his attitude.

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12 Jun 2015 21:04:47
He's not a Villa fan. Although born here he went off to Leeds aged about 1 or something. His only ties to the city are his birth.

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13 Jun 2015 09:20:34
Oh dear Peter, you best let him know that.
He has always said villa are his team, obviously he should of spoke to you first, you know more about his mind than he does

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13 Jun 2015 10:13:23
After he scored at Villa Park in the FA Cup a good few years ago he was asked and said he didn't support Villa. Don't really need to ask him when he's already said it. If he's changed his mind then fair enough but I'm only going on what he said and not what the papers say.

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13 Jun 2015 10:18:45
This is directly from an article in the Telegraph dated 9th October 2007 and the quotation marks kind of make me think its him speaking:

Richards, who was born in Birmingham and grew up in Leeds, said: "I was a big Ian Wright fan when I was younger, so I supported Arsenal.
"Wright and Patrick Vieira were my idols so if the opportunity came to play for them one day I'd take it.

But hey Flackie if you still want me to tell him he's a Villa fan I'll see what I can do.

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13 Jun 2015 22:04:23
Thanks Mr positive Peter
Yeah please tell him so!

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09 Jun 2015 19:53:32
With the very positive sounding information leaking about a potential take over, hypothetically if we have a sizeable war chest to spend next season what, within reason, would you like our starting 11 to look like next season?

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09 Jun 2015 20:26:53
Guzan
Trippier Clark Micah Richards Kieran Gibbs
Townsend Delph Dembele Sinclair
Austin Benteke
With a reasonable amount of ambition by a new owner, I think this is feasible

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09 Jun 2015 23:47:47
Mendax - I like it.

Tripper, Austin, Townsend would definitely be on my list and Benteke, Delph, Guzan and Sinclair should keep their places IMO. Interesting choice with Richards at CB but it could work and would act as good cover for LB too. Not such a fan of Dembele, he's been very lacklustre at Spurs but if he can recapture the form from his Fulham days he could prove a great buy. I'd prefer a dedicated holding midfielder to partner Delph so he has more license to get forward and add some much needed height and strength to our midfield.

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10 Jun 2015 10:12:46
I know what you mean on Dembele. He was the one I was least enthusitic about. But, I think he,s gettable; I'd play him in exactly the way you describe alongside Delph and I think he's a bit better than what we have. There are probably better options though

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10 Jun 2015 11:35:09
Horn
Trippier Clarke Chester Robertson
Townsend Delph Fer Sinclair
Austin Benteke

Not really sure who I'd want as the new cb just used Chester as I've seen rumours

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10 Jun 2015 13:28:04
Would love to see Dembele at villa, I think as a regular starter he would flourish.
No mention of Gary Gardner in many peoples 11, I believe next season will be a big one for him. Was forests best player at the end of last season

Its common knowledge that we need new fullbacks, I'm sure there will be a long queue for Trippier.

We can only hope that any takeover happens sooner rather than later otherwise transfer targets will of already signed for their new clubs!

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10 Jun 2015 16:36:19
The problem with Gary Gardner is he needs time to grow into the premier league so won't make most peoples first 11 - notice how nobody has put Grealish in either. Mine would be

Guzan
Trippier, Okore, Clark, Jetro Willems
Delph, Barton
Townsend, Diame, Sinclair
Austin (I'm assuming Benteke is gone)

Centre backs would need adding to - Okore and Clark played very well together but rubbish with different partners.

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10 Jun 2015 19:32:14
Heaton (Cech if the war chest is large enough)

Trippier
Okore
Clark
Bennett (like to see him given a go under Sherwood)

Song
Delph
Townsend
Grealish
Fer

Benteke

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11 Jun 2015 00:15:47
Guzan

Richards. Van Dijk. Okore. Mings.

Westwood. Dembele. Delph.

Bacuna. Austin. Townsend.

Steer, Johnson, Bennett, Richardson, Baker, Clark, Gardner, Sanchez, Sylla, Sinclair, Grealish, Agbonlahor, Guidetti, Helenius, Robinson.

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11 Jun 2015 07:06:43
Butland
Richards Okore Dawson Williams
Song
Sissoko Delph
Grealish
Austin remey

Would be around 60 mil to get these players and a fare bit of wage but hey I hope new owners will free the purse strings up a bit and with the new tv money and a couple of good sponsor deals we could balance the books over next year. I'd keep gabby guzan baker Westwood and the likes as squad players and give Gardner Robinson and few young lads a crack. I'd also like helenius given a fare crack as I rate him but don't look like we will.

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09 Jun 2015 07:38:05
I was surprised to see Graham Burke was released, it was not that long ago he was being touted as the next big thing. Good luck to the lad, I hope he finds a new club quickly.

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09 Jun 2015 17:12:23
It seems such a shame that after winning the NextGen series thingy we have been unable / unwilling to bring any of the players involved through into the first team. Hopefully with Sherwood on board, he will take more of an active part in the youth development and bring some more through like Grealish

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09 Jun 2015 07:32:37
Looks like take over is going to happen, but from what I'm reading I could be a bit late for this window again all the paper work is finished, I happy to see there has been a couple of interested party's looking to buy, I just hope if it does take a while with paper work randy doesn't let the window pass by without getting fresh faces in, I'd love to know who the interested party is and how much they are worth, let's hope for bigger and better things, lord knows we have had it hard the last couple of seasons

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09 Jun 2015 00:23:08
read today that a bid has been accepted and it looks like we getting new owner. so what that's the betting that we end up with a mike Ashley, oh please let it be a crazy rich oil billionaire that's going to put couple 100 million a season into transfers.

dont really want to be one them teams that buys for sake of it but for once it will be nice to sit here and actually enjoy transfer windows

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08 Jun 2015 17:10:10
How do you guys feel generally about signing players on loan? It seems that as soon as we get any promising ones they just go to a different club (Bertrand, Cleverley etc) so is it really worth it if we are just helping to provide other clubs with players just for the 6-12 months we have them for?

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08 Jun 2015 18:46:11
I hate it

How can you truly try to create a team, if certain players a) can't play in certain games. b) have no loyalty, as you don't pay their wages, they trying to better then selves to get in to a different team. c) you can't plan for a future as don't know who will be here or playing for a rival.

It makes a team who borrow players, a feeder club with out the profit.

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08 Jun 2015 19:20:17
Hated it since we had to give Kyle Walker back!

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08 Jun 2015 23:28:11
I think it has its place - if you need cover for a position because of injury in the January window or if you are still short on players late in the window and are pretty desperate. Both scenarios come from desperation rather than a well executed plan, so personally its not something I think Sherwood should look at unless he absolutely has to.

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09 Jun 2015 12:12:33
I think Andy has summed it up perfectly there.

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04 Jun 2015 21:59:01
Even though we earned less this year from our final league position, the finances don't look too bad. We posted a 4 million loss with the 10th best turnover (111.2 million) in the Premiership proving that the clubs other revenue streams are compensating for our league position. So in theory we are an attractive prospect for potential buyers, especially with the massive boost from the TV rights coming soon.

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04 Jun 2015 17:44:44
Anybody too upset about Cleverly reportedly signing for Everton over us? Played well towards the end of the season but I don't think it's really a big deal, shouldn't be hard to replace

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04 Jun 2015 18:27:31
Not really, and we certainly don't want to be sucked into a personal terms battle and have him on ridiculous wages.

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04 Jun 2015 18:37:45
Gary Gardner

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04 Jun 2015 20:24:23
Hi villan.
Not at all, I don't like him and never have, he is a bit reckless for me and lacks a that bit of quality you expect from a midfielder with his experience.
Gary Gardener should be given a chance, scores goals as well.
Not saying he is the fix but you never know.

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05 Jun 2015 12:06:38
Did i read somewhere that if we wanted to sign him we would have to pay £7mil? Even tho he would have been out of contract?

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05 Jun 2015 20:17:59
Looks like its done and he's going to Everton on 50k per week.

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04 Jun 2015 09:47:45
Until Big Ben hands in his request he still our player, why are us as fans always thinking when a bid comes in for our best players that they need to be sold I don't understand it, right some will point out young, downing, milliner, as examples but each of them wanted to leave for champions league football, so now we are saying if Big Ben goes bring in lambert, Austin, or inigs surely we can do better than any of them 2 aren't proven and the other has spent a season sitting on Liverpool's bench with them playing a winger up front instead, Big Ben has massive potential another drogba in my opinion my are we aiming so low is this what we expect of our club, surely these are the type of players we need to build around Big Ben, Delph, Grelish, how can the club be sold with no star names, with broadcasting deals now and a few big names on the team sheet every week there should be no problem in selling the club we need to keep hold of our better players and build around them, I just hope timmy can talk them into giveing him 1 season to see how things go for him, Rant Over

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04 Jun 2015 11:32:45
He has said that he wants to go, in an interview where he thought it was a pvt conversation.
And all 3 are proven prem goal scorers.

But your right, let's keep a player when he doesn't want to be here, let's keep him right up until the day before the transfer window closes, so we can get that extra 2m but no time to spend a penny.
We need to be proactive. Not stupid.

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04 Jun 2015 11:49:00
I fully understand what you mean we can't keep letting big names go or we'll never grow but let's face it Benteke is going. He's done nothing in recent interviews to show he's happy where he is and pretty much stated that Kismet will sort out a move. If a bid comes in and hits the release clause he'll be straight out and to be honest fair play to the lad. He's kept us up with his goals for a couple of seasons and villa will take forever if ever to reach Champions League which is what he wants. He's earned his big move so all we can do is thank him for his service and wish him the best. The club will survive, even though it's heart breaking to see Villa as a stepping stone club.

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04 Jun 2015 16:18:45
Spot on Flackie, totally agree mate.
We all need to stop moaning about how we finished the season and how poor some players are in the squad, we are safe end off, place our trust in Sherwood.
Make no mistake we would be a championship side now if the previous management were still in place, that alone should encourage us to give Tim our full backing
Let him build his own side and keep the players that want to stay, if they want out It is no good keeping them, this thing about Benteke will keep coming back time and time again.
This will go against the grain with some but getting 32.5 mill for Benteke would surely help us put two or three quality players in place for next season, Austin or his like would be a good start
There is usually no smoke without fire, and my guess is Benteke wants out, if that’s the case let him go ASAP, It’s a shame but it is what it is.

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04 Jun 2015 16:50:15
Thank you Dave.
Just wish we could be positive.

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04 Jun 2015 17:32:09
Just look at Southampton this season - They were pegged by many for relegation when a lot of their stars went, but with the right investments their team is stronger than ever. If Benteke wants to go and the buyout is met then there is not much the club can do anyway. If no one stumps up the cash for him, he stays and we keep our best player. I'm not going to say its win-win because new signings are always a risk but we should be positive until (if) Sherwood gives us reason not to be.

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04 Jun 2015 19:46:35
I agree again Flackie mate, I am very positive to be honest.
If a man can come in and transform a team that had been coached to become totally ineffective and clueless then he deserves some credit and support.
I have no doubt whatsoever that we will become a much better outfit under Sherwood, I am not saying champions league in 12 months, but a steady progression towards top 6

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03 Jun 2015 22:09:34
So Big Ben has made it clear in a fake interview that he has his heart set on leaving, and has already spoken to Liverpool.
I hope he does well, wish him luck, and thank him for his goals and effort.
But. The king is dead, so long live the king.

I hope it's 20-25m plus, with lambert thrown in.
I then hope that the club is proactive and invest quick and wisely. My shout is Charlie Austin.
Austin and lambert up front would be great, for club and country.

I now offer an apology to all of you, as I as I'm sure you have have been angry since sat.
I've vented at fellow fans and that's not on.
All I want is us to be positive, constructive, but let's all pull together.

This negativity expressed in these pages is contagious, and poisonous. We need to flush it out.
Some our even posting how we are Defo relegated this season.
Let's be honest, we go in to a season thinking this, it will prob happen.

In life you constantly get accused of some thing, or blamed for something, when you haven't done it, I genuinely believe subconsciously you think, well f**k it, they are convinced it's going to happen, so you give into it, and it happens!
Let's be a glass half full club!!

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04 Jun 2015 06:31:34
As much as I agree with your message of positivity I highly doubt that in the Monday morning meeting after the final, Sherwood sat the players down and read them the confidence shattering comments on this site.

However I have never really got the philosophy of 'the glass'. To me a glass can only be described as half full if you have started with an empty glass and filled it half way up (progress). To call the glass half empty suggests the glass was once full and half of it was spilled or poured away (regression). We would certainly fall under the glass half empty definition, but the most important thing to remember is the goal is always to fill the glass no matter where you have started from, and it can always go both ways. The mind set should not to be blindly positive or negative but to have a sighted goal and to for an effective plan of achieving it. I like to think of it in terms of a SWOT analysis (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities and Threats)where we understand how full our glass is (Strengths and Weaknesses), realise Opportunities to fill the glass, and detect Threats likely to further empty our glass.

As I believe I was one of those who alluded to relegation next season if Benteke leaves (Benteke leaving is a definite Threat in my eyes to the relative fullness of our glass) I did add the caveat of 'if he is not properly replaced'. If we sell him for the reported, yet unsubstantiated 32.5 million and we spot the Opportunity to sign both Ings and Austin our glass in theory should be fuller than before as the team should be a stronger entity than before.

Having glanced at some of the comments sections of various articles the fans here seem almost cheerful. I've seen people commenting that Sherwood should be sacked right now, we should sell Benteke, Guzan, Delph, Vlaar (All our best players), not even consider signing Cleverley because its rumoured he's speaking with Everton (Has he no right to assess his options?) and a whole host of negativity including one gem claiming Cissokho should be sold because 'he couldn't cross a ball into the ocean from the beach'.

Sorry for the long winded (and probably nonsensical) post but I just thought I'd throw my two pence in.

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04 Jun 2015 08:25:32
Got to say, I love your glass analogy!!
I would love ings and Austin, but do think it will be one or the other.

The main gripe I have is the slagging off of players.
Was never there fault we signed them. Abs at this moment, they are all we have.
I'm not saying we blindly follow. But a little support would go a long way.
Prime example, Bennett, he got booed in the pitch, by his own fans. No wonder he lost in confidence.
As a player else where, to hear that you would think you had already won! Then there is the fact that why would you sign for a club, knowing one mistake will result in your own fans turning on you!

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04 Jun 2015 17:47:04
Your absolutely right Flackie, if players from lesser leagues are given the opportunity to play in the premier league they are right to jump at the chance. Its up to the manager to ensure they can make the step up. With Bennett, he is not the best defender and certainly not premiership quality, but its the same scenario as Bacuna - they are wingers playing in defence. It doesn't take a genius to see Bennett is not physical enough to be a premiership defender in a team that needs to rely a lot on their defence. But he showed a lot of promise when he was allowed to go forward. That's why I think Sherwood will not make any rash decisions regarding the playing staff who have been out on loan and assess them in pre season.

What I find the most annoying though is not the air of negativity or attitude towards the players but how Sherwood is being treated. People in comments referring to him as TimTim, Nice but Tim, Timmy etc, just come across as derogatory and ungrateful. let's not forget that under Lambert we never looked like turning our form around so its fair to say Sherwood kept us up. It looked worse towards the end because every other team down the bottom turned it on as well - just look at Leicester.

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06 Jun 2015 08:47:23
Can't help reflecting on our last two games. What happened to the coaching for those rubbish performances?
I wait for new owners and to se if they want TS to stay in the role.
The evidence suggests that the players play the way that they want to play or TS is failing.
Nothing has been proved yet. The improvement could be down to new manager syndrome then lapsing back.
The rats are leaving the ship. TS will have to work miracles to get any quality players to sign for us.
This is not negative thinking but trying to assess the situation that is before us.

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06 Jun 2015 20:45:40
Oldvillan - its hard to argue that the last few games have been anything other than dire but there is a reason why Sherwood is the manager as the board decided he was the best candidate available. If Sherwood is sacked we aren't going to get Klopp or Ancelotti, so it will be mostly the same names in the frame again. If a takeover doesn't happen fairly early on in the window, we are going to struggle to have the time to do all the business we need to anyway and a newly instated manager will have a very limited time frame to assess our situation and decide who needs to go and who to bring in. I would hope that any new owners would realise this and give Sherwood a chance.

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03 Jun 2015 21:46:45
Apparently when Newcastle sacked Jonas Gutierrez, John Carver couldn't be arsed to do it in person and did it over the phone. Probably on Mike Ashley's orders. Almost makes Lerner look good.

If I was Sherwood, I'd take a punt on Gutierrez, he'd be free, cheap wages and although he isn't the best technically he would make a good squad player and he'd put he effort in every game he'd get.

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{Ed007's Note - That wasn't all, Andy, Carver was on the phone to Ryan Taylor, who was in Belfast doing a coaching course, telling him he was being released and then asked him to pass the phone to Gutierrez who was also on the course and told him he was being released as well.}

03 Jun 2015 22:32:00
I find Newcastle, as a whole club, an embarrassment.
To treat their fans the way they do, can we really be shocked that they treat their players this way.

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{Ed001's Note - hardly a surprise, when Gutierrez was in recovery they tried to kick him out the club then!}

03 Jun 2015 22:46:31
Thooking disgrace.

(See what I did there editor?!)

They lost all neutral fans. Days gone by we all wanted them to be our second team. I wished they had gone down.

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{Ed007's Note - A lot of people wanted them to go down this season.}

04 Jun 2015 06:37:47
Its just insulting - after ensuring their safety on the last day of the season and they can't even make an individual phone call to sack him, let alone speak to him in person. And Carver thinks he is the best Coach in the premiership.

Although you can't knock him as a manager Mourinho seems like a petty and unpleasant personality, but he made sure that an extra winners medal was sent to Andre Schurrle and called him personally to congratulate him on his performances that season, even though he was sold in January.

Its not that hard to show a bit of class.

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{Ed001's Note - Newcastle have turned into Sports Direct FC, sadly. Ashley treats it exactly the same, all about taking money and treating everyone, especially his staff, like idiots.}

04 Jun 2015 10:46:15
Its was Gutierrez that kept them in the prem, last game set up first goal and scored 2nd, then released. What a thank you!

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04 Jun 2015 17:35:07
I'm not saying they were under any obligation to give him a new contract if they didn't want him out of sentiment, but at least discuss it in person and thank him properly for his service.

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03 Jun 2015 13:45:46
List of players I see going out:
Weiman
Lowton
Luna
Sylla
Cissokho
Vlaar
Benteke
Zog
Senderos
Given or guzan

I think Westwood and Sanchez are very average, with cleverly signing for another club and our distinct lack of full backs aswell as limited firepower with benteke leaving its going to be one heck of a busy summer for the club!

Players I'd like to see in:
Trippier Burnley
Roberston hull
Dembele spurs
Ayew Marseille
Sertic Bordeaux
Austin qpr
Phillips qpr
Dos Santos Villarreal
Another keeper (Brentford keeper?)
Another center half

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03 Jun 2015 15:54:55
I think Sherwood will try and dispose of the following, as he will need to sell to bolster his presumably limited transfer budget.

Gil - He doesn't seem to rate him
Sanchez - only uses him as a late sub
Cissokho - Prefers attacking wingers
Weimann - Seems out of favour

The players away on loan (Sylla, Bennett, Luna, Helenius, Tonev et al) I think he will want to look at them in pre season as they might just fit well with his philosophy. Same goes for Kozak and Senderos as he hasn't had the chance to see them in action.

I think a few will go but not as many as some people are suggesting - hence his 'we need to change the (losing) mentality of some of the ones we've got speech.

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03 Jun 2015 13:45:46
List of players I see going out:
Weiman
Lowton
Luna
Sylla
Cissokho
Vlaar
Benteke
Zog
Senderos
Given or guzan

I think Westwood and Sanchez are very average, with cleverly signing for another club and our distinct lack of full backs aswell as limited firepower with benteke leaving its going to be one heck of a busy summer for the club!

Players I'd like to see in:
Trippier Burnley
Roberston hull
Dembele spurs
Ayew Marseille
Sertic Bordeaux
Austin qpr
Phillips qpr
Dos Santos Villarreal
Another keeper (Brentford keeper?)
Another center half

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03 Jun 2015 18:23:29
Ayew? To Aston Villa?! No chance!

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03 Jun 2015 08:10:15
The weaknesses have been described well here, but I don't see the of needlessly buying players. Gil shouldn't be forgotten and Sanchez is a pretty good enforcer.

If Benny stays, I'd like to see money spent on a quality goal scorer who can partner him.

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03 Jun 2015 08:03:13
So let's not get sentimental over the FA Cup or other results, remember, we were 3 points from being a Championship side. Under Sherwood at the tail end of the season we've had some great results, West Brom, Liverpool. West Ham and Spurs. At the same time, including the FA Cup. Burnley and Southampton, we shipped in 11 goals. I have to be honest, I've been watching the FA Cup final since I was a kid, and to my memory. That was the most one sided cup final I can remember, and that's a lot of cup finals.

I'm not inclined to let Timbo off the hook so easy. He picked the side and it never looked like a side that could compete against Arsenal . Grealish, Cleverley and Zoggy in midfield with Westwood behind them was a joke. The only true competitor in the middle of the park was Delph, and it wasn't his best of days either. I love Grealish's potential but he's ,19 and he ain't there yet. Zoggy has always been one good game one lousy game at the best. I'm not saying we should be won. But I'm am saying we should've made a fist of it!

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03 Jun 2015 08:41:59
to be fair i can't think of a team involving any of our players that wouldn't have got battered, only player that i thought had a half decent game was richardson,

im yet to see nzogbia play a good game in a villa shirt

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03 Jun 2015 11:27:42
I agree with bigc.
That midfield was terrible. Why didn't we play Ronald's, bale and messie?

Oh yeah, I remember, THAT IS ALL WE HAVE!!

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03 Jun 2015 15:43:32
The best thing to do is to stop dwelling on the final and judging or players solely on that game. Everything conspired against us, Arsenal were on fire, they had virtually no injuries to the squad, Sherwoods tactics could have been better (although options were limited), and the players collectively had an off day. When we were getting the good results Delph and Cleverley were running constantly, driving the midfield forward, and dropping deep to defend, plus creating most of the play. And Delph was rightly lauded by some as the best English midfielder around. But that style of play must be very draining on players and not a sustainable way of playing for a whole season. let's see who Sherwood sells and buys and maybe we will see him more prepared to adjust tactics mid game as he trusts all the players at his disposal to play his way.

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03 Jun 2015 07:39:30
Cleverley is the new Ray Wilkins. Worth keeping if the price's right.

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03 Jun 2015 15:35:42
If only to sell him on in January and make a profit.

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03 Jun 2015 06:56:30
So it looks like mr Cleverley wants to be reunited with Martinez at everton. if he thinks he can do better than he has at villa then he can p**s off, second rated player anyway.

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03 Jun 2015 15:35:09
The last thing we need is to get into a bidding war with other teams and put him on inflated wages - let's let Sherwood make his own signings instead.

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02 Jun 2015 20:37:01
As I stated a couple of weeks ago I felt sherwoods honeymoon period was over, players tend to give that extra 10% when a new gaffer comes in I hope he has seen how bad gabby and nzobia is headless chickens springs to mind, Westwood is always looking to receive a pass but he just hasn't got that killer ball, vlarr is not mobile enough Hutton has steped up to the plate but couldn't cross the road, we have so many players to try and get in,

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02 Jun 2015 22:26:37
Oh look another happy post.
Jesus.

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03 Jun 2015 08:17:36
Flackie, I'm not saying that I'm not happy little timmy done what he braught in to do, and the cup run was a bonus I just hope when he said that there will be a clear out that gabby and the likes are considered, we need to be trying to get a better calibre of player if Big Ben goes there will be plenty of money to spend and I think I trust sher wood with that money because he knows how to play the game right

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03 Jun 2015 12:54:22
I couldn't agree more.
I'm sorry, just so angry that all that is now posted on here is complete negative, s**t.
No optimism, no positive, no constructive advice. Just insults thrown at players, coach, owner and manager.
Even the past managers are still getting the s**t.
Sherwood should be knighted for the way he turned out standard of football around. He had the same players.
Yes the final was a disaster, yes the previous two games to the final where the same.
Southampton, you hold your hands up, they had us. Every attack looked like scoring, we didn't.
Burnley, can you blame the players for having Wembley on their minds? I can't.
Arsenal, I personally can only think of possibly two teams in Europe that would of lived with them on that form.

Sherwood has never had a pre season as a manager. Never had a transfer window.
We owe it to him to let be what will be.

I hope the ownership changes.
But I hope this negative, grey cloud that lives over our club and fans leaves before Lerner. As let's be honest, it's contagious, depressing and so boring.

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03 Jun 2015 15:32:35
Flackie's right. We are all disappointed with how the season ended but the most important thing is that Sherwood got us enough points to keep us up and the quality of football and results have improved under his tenure than when Lambert was in charge. I've made it clear before that Tim has earned the chance to have a go at rebuilding the team, and having never been afforded the opportunity to operate in a transfer window before, its too soon to judge how he will do, especially with so many variables like the ownership situation, Benteke's situation and the sheer number of players which need moving on. Just so long as he looks further than Spur's cast offs, Keeps Lamberts good work in mind and keeps the wage bill appropriate and doesn't sign players with zero resale value - there is cause for optimism.

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02 Jun 2015 09:17:34
just read the article on the birmingham mail saying sherwoods decided whos first out door and can't say i'm suprised by ay of the names or any the names hinted to be on the way out either. only thing that suprised me is we bought cissoko i thought he was just a loan player.

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02 Jun 2015 09:52:32
I'm surprised we getting rid of him. I actually thought he was pretty decent!
But yeah knew we brought him.
Going over old ground, but Gil is a shock for me.

But we got to trust sherwood. Let him make his team, and have his first pre season and transfer window. Just hope who ever is the owner!! (Please not Lerner!!) backs him 100%

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02 Jun 2015 14:57:00
yeah he started quite well, would love to know why sherwood won't play him.

as you say i'm preying that person has had an offer and does one its not got to the point where if he's not going to put money in he's just killing us. now i'm not saying we need 100s of millions but we need more than £30 quid and a packet of peanuts or we stuck with loans and free transfers of the oap homes again

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02 Jun 2015 16:04:22
I'm guessing Cissokho isn't playing as Sherwood prefers Attacking wing backs and Cissokho couldn't successfully cross a road. Wouldn't surprise me if Sherwood does use Bennet as although he was defensively suspect he did look half decent attacking and had a good cross on him

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01 Jun 2015 21:32:14
Question - Should we sign Tom Cleverley on a permanent deal?

I would only sign him if his wages are at a reasonable level, if he wants 70k a week like was mooted when we looked at him last summer we should let him go elsewhere. Even if he's rubbish next season, he's a free agent so we should make enough off selling him to cover a years pay and make a little profit.

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02 Jun 2015 09:11:14
if he's after more then 40k i wouldn't bother, was one the worst players under lambert (not that we had any stand outs) started looking good for sherwood but again same as rest team i feel he was one the reasons we started to slump again, there is a reason he's known as "the crab" everything goes 5yrds sidewards

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01 Jun 2015 06:37:31
I see very little money for players coming from Lerner this summer. Why would he bother, he's selling. Sherwood will have to sell to buy. Same old. Same old.

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01 Jun 2015 21:10:24
If he is still the clubs custodian next season hopefully he will have realised that we survived due to 3 teams being worse than us and that finishing 17th, 2 points off the drop is cutting it too fine. Maybe we will get a little bit more to invest and maybe some extra off the cup run too.

I think your probably right BigC - Sherwood won't have much of a war chest to overhaul the squad. But look on the bright side, there are plenty of players that need selling anyway.

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02 Jun 2015 06:23:14
Apart from benteke can't see anyone would want to buy the rest, all poor players.

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