Aston Villa Banter Archive December 01 2016 to December 31 2016

 

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31 Dec 2016 22:26:04
Happy New Year to all Villa Fans out. 2017 will be a good year for us.

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31 Dec 2016 19:55:04
Happy New Year everyone, and where have Classof82 and MrKnowItAll dissapeared to?

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01 Jan 2017 12:26:21
I believe they've run off together to run a small African dictatorship ;)

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01 Jan 2017 12:34:47
I was expecting a queens speech from at least 1 of 'em, rally the troops/ mission statement 👍🏻

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31 Dec 2016 13:18:02
Happy New Year to everyone (Posters and Eds) and your families of course.

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{Ed007's Note - And to you, Dave.}

31 Dec 2016 13:36:53
Thanks Dave, and your self.

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31 Dec 2016 12:03:08
Hi Flackie, what is life like in the east midlands these days after a fraught 2015/ 16?
Imagine that you are more comfortable.

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31 Dec 2016 12:17:24
You just had to mention it! Lol

It's ok mate. this season is a wake up! It makes me laugh that all the 'fans' that came on board last season are back with the tigers!

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31 Dec 2016 11:30:36
Just wanted to wish everyone, fans and supporters (lol) even the eds, (and Jesus! ) a happy new year!

2016 was turd crap! Surly 2017 has got to get better!? Lol.

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{Ed007's Note - Happy new year to you and your family, Flackie - and to all the posters and lurkers on here. Lang may your lum reek.}

31 Dec 2016 11:50:25
Amen to that Flackie.
Have a good un mate.

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31 Dec 2016 11:37:54
Said like a true drunk Scotsman!
Thanks fella! You too!

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{Ed007's Note - I don't drink, Flackie. There's a Celtic v Rangers game on, on Hogmany and I'll probably be the soberest person in a 10 mile radius of my house lol. The party across the road from me started last night and is still going strong.}

31 Dec 2016 12:19:58
Man after my own heart! Designated driver like me?!
Least we get the photos and ammunition against the psis heads! Lol
Have a good one ed!

And mendax. long time no see mate! Happy xmas etc!
Hope all the probs you had are sorted fella.

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{Ed007's Note - I don't drive either lol I'm just an anti-social b*****d according to the Mrs.}

31 Dec 2016 13:37:27
Lol ahhh
No comment!

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{Ed007's Note - :-D

31 Dec 2016 21:55:18
Ed 07
"With other people's coal! "

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30 Dec 2016 20:56:09
Dear Steve,
As a New Year gift could you get a rock solid centreback to tighten our defence.
A midfield dynamo to light up a lightweight supply train and an old fashioned number 9 to put the ball in the bag.
Overall we are doing ok but just a bit more bite would be good.
Thank you
Oldvillan
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30 Dec 2016 22:53:21
Is the centre back for the bench?

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30 Dec 2016 23:57:25
It does make me laugh!
This is the toughest league to get out of in European football, and finally after years of the trash we been watching we are competitive. yet people still berate the whole team as if they are tripe!

This is the first villa side I've seen in years that every week I go to games expecting something.

I've always been disappointed when we loose. but let's be honest. last few years, expected it!
This season I'm disappointed if we don't win!

I think we need to improve areas. lose some certain people from the squad. but the whole team?!
Come on!

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31 Dec 2016 02:53:38
Right back who can deliver a decent delivery please. I like an loathe Allan Hutton.

Definitely need a box to box midfielder, did anyone see how tired jedinak was past the hour mark last night!?

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31 Dec 2016 09:03:51
I thought the same flackie! Our CB pairing is one of the best in the league so unless Sergio ramos is coming in then I hope they like the bench. A right back, box to box centre mid and a left winger and we are sorted. A striker only needs to come in if we sell one! We have finally got a team that when the line up is announced we think, "yea they can get a result today"

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31 Dec 2016 09:06:17
Flackie, I only asked for 3 players, not a complete team.
As you clearly stated there are some that should go but the spine of the team is in need of improvement.

Happy New Year to all posters and the Eds regardless of views.
. Oldvillan.

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{Ed001's Note - Happy New Year OV and to all the posters. May 2017 be a better year for everyone.}

31 Dec 2016 09:59:17
All we need is options. our problem is trying to accomadate too many flair players, at times we have 1 ball winning midfielder, 3 No10's and a striker, Jedinak ain't got the pace but you watch every time the opposition punt the ball in our half, he's the 1 heading it so he's got to stay in, he needs help there. Wish he was a bit younger but Charlie Adam would be a good solid player next to him, and he's got an eye for goal, win the ball, give it to the flair players be it a No10 or winger and at least you've got cover if the opposition get the ball back. Overloading the team with forward thinking players is fine if you're chasing the game, but not how you should start the game. Only suggesting Adam as a means to an end

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31 Dec 2016 10:20:47
Oldvillan, I didn't mean it on this thread mate. you did only ask for three. and I don't argue with that! I meant to start a new post! Sorry!

Happy new year to you to buddy.

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31 Dec 2016 12:35:52
Put my hands up in being less than complimentary about one or two versus Leeds. Observations for that match born out of high expectations. Agree with sentiments around more positive season be it frustrating waiting for us to muller a team! An extra spark may come in January. Happy New Year to all UTV.

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30 Dec 2016 14:29:20
Not sure why we're getting rid of gestede, he's proved himself to be a really useful impact player from the bench.

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30 Dec 2016 15:12:08
Your right but that's all he is because we don't play to his strengths, even last night we lumped it up and he knocked it into kodja for his 1 on 1 late on, but then we didn't do it again. We got a free kick inside their half and everyone was pointing at him at the back of the line of players, to knock it all the way over to him and then he can knock it into the box, what did we do? Pass it up to adomah and left both centre backs gustede kodja McCormack all lining up for no reason. Sometimes we do the stupidest of things, beggars belief.

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30 Dec 2016 15:47:37
I'm sorry guys. 'Justhead ' is a terrible footballer, he does win a lot in the air, but doesn't control it.

He has a worse first touch than Freddie Kruger, we don't lump the ball into the box for him, as although he might touch it, he lacks intelligence, skill and ability to control it.

To swap him for Rhodes would be incredible, I just feel sorry for the boro fans.

There was a post on here yesterday of the worse strikers that have been at villa. He is right up there.

He had 1 great season, along side Rhodes. and 1 great game against Liverpool. and we brought him because of.

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30 Dec 2016 16:45:28
Yea not a great loss, he just gives us another option off the bench in desperation.

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30 Dec 2016 17:28:06
But not a great one.
If it's an option from the bench. why not r. h. murphy?
Pace, desire, and knows where goal is in youth football.

Worth his opportunity.

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30 Dec 2016 19:11:19
I know what your saying but RHM offers similar to kodja, speed in behind. We haven't got anyone who is an overwhelming presence in the air, whether he's good at it or not, his stature alone causes problems and gives us a different option.

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30 Dec 2016 20:24:08
Chris we haven’t got anyone who can lift the ball more than 3 feet off the dam floor so what`s the point.

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30 Dec 2016 22:54:24
That's what I've said, we don't play to his strengths, my point was he gives us that option even if we don't use it, when he's on defenders have to prepare for it.

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31 Dec 2016 02:49:42
Helenius, bowery, balaban, the Moore brothers, winegum, kozak, heskey are all worse than justhead surely? Anyways point remains he always makes an impact for us coming off the bench, if he's replaced I'd like it to be someone who has the same presence on the pitch.
Fingers crossed Coventry will give us a fiver for gabby.

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30 Dec 2016 10:34:41
Ain't got a snowballs chance in hell of it coming off but would love to see Martin Odegard of Real Madrid on loan rest of the season with a view to buy, the kid is going to be a superstar

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30 Dec 2016 12:25:41
step away from footy manager and go outside for some air mate.

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30 Dec 2016 15:12:36
Yea sorry ally but the kid is a PR stunt nothing more.

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29 Dec 2016 23:05:29
Wasn't at the game tonight because I'm down in London, watched on Sky though, only thing I could take from watching is we should try to hijack that deal for their centre half who scored, £3.5M his parent club want for him

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30 Dec 2016 09:56:20
i don't thnk you can if they already have it in his loan agreement,

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30 Dec 2016 10:24:23
Money talks, I've read that he's on a season loan with an agreement between the clubs for £3.5M to buy at the end of it, doesn't mean the player has agreed to it, say we get promoted and they don't, he'd definitely be worth going for, he's a warrior in the mould of Mellberg/ Laursen, to put it into context, Man U are willing to pay £40M+ for his international team mate?

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30 Dec 2016 15:14:57
I get your point but you can't rate him just on who he plays next to for his country. Mascherano plays next to Otamendi for Argentina, I'd give you 50mil for one and 50p for the other.

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30 Dec 2016 22:01:39
Hi guys. Leeds fan in peace here. Our defensive rock Pontus Jansson is almost agreed. It was in his loan agreement when we first got him, €4m, which is looking like an absolute steal. Thinking of calling him the terminator as he doesn't take any 5h1t and in most games he pol-axes at least one player like he did Grealish last night. Already a cult hero up here in sunny Leeds. Definitely reminds me of Mellburg.

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29 Dec 2016 22:20:04
Fair play to Amavi playing dreadful since there was an offer for him, so no one else try's to buy him😉 Only joking he was dreadful today, their winger got the better of him time and time again. Westwood and Jedinak are too defensive together, need one of them and a box to box dynamic mid next to him, I would normally have said need one next to Jedinak but give him his due, Westwood was better than him by far today. Gustede gives us a good option off the bench but we don't play to his strengths enough so won't be a crying shame when he goes if we replace him with someone more suited. Kodja still sometimes still too selfish and ayew still useless. We had the better chances just need to finish them, unbeaten at home and now Bruce can add an turn it into his team, UTV!

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29 Dec 2016 23:22:14
Amarvi was slaughtered tonight and Jedinak had the mobility of a tree stump. Mr Ayew didn't turn up and you're right about the land crab. Having said all that, well done again for grinding out a good result against a good side. First 10 mins thought we did really well and last 10 too! Another point in the bag and draw was all we could expect UTV.

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29 Dec 2016 22:02:38
Another poor display from the lads. Kodjia had two big chances in the end and couldn't score. Shame, because I really thought we could win this match too.

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29 Dec 2016
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29 Dec 2016 17:50:48
Dimitar Berbatov is a free agent after being released by PAOK Salonika in June. According to his agent he is 'keen to return to the Premier League' but at 35 I think he's p*55ing in the wind.
Any takers to supplement the strike-force?

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29 Dec 2016 18:30:29
If his wages are sensible and we don't slap him on a 4 year deal, maybe .

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29 Dec 2016 19:04:34
Sorry if he's not good for a side I've never heard of he's not good for us too old too slow.

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29 Dec 2016 22:22:52
He wasn't good enough for Fulham 2 years ago in the championship so no thanks.

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29 Dec 2016 09:35:46
Ayew 10/ 12mil
Amavi 25mil
Gustede 30mil
Veretout 50mil
The papers have officially lost it, this is apparently the money the Chinese are willing to pay for them! If it was up to me we'd be 92mil up, keeping Amavi and signing who we want! All paper rubbish tho, don't know how they get away with it.

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29 Dec 2016 14:37:19
Perhaps it is a way of to get around the financial fair play rules?

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30 Dec 2016 09:58:20
we can't get 50 mill for all four never mind veretout.

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28 Dec 2016 16:47:02
When we get back to the premiership one player to keep will be Kodjia.

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28 Dec 2016 20:39:32
Nope

Another Jordan Rhodes, Steve Bull.
Great at this level but not good enough for the step up.

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28 Dec 2016 21:03:48
Sorry Charmed I disagree, Kodjia has a lot to offer and very talented, will get slatted for this but I think he has more about him than Benteke.

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28 Dec 2016 21:41:28
Kodjia looks like a Thiery Henry type of striker, Benteke was Garry Thomson with a ruthless streak, on the fence tbh

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28 Dec 2016 21:50:48
Well Thiery Henry had more about him than Gary Thompson did surely.
Another thing, Benteke has a moody streak in him, not seen that yet in Kodjia.

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28 Dec 2016 23:14:39
Kodja definitely prem standard, had his worst game so far vs burton and we still won. Don't think I've seen a player in a villa shirt get tight to a defender and turn them the way he does, leaving the defender looking helpless. Sometimes he is too selfish but it's hard as a striker because you have to be to a certain extent it's just decision making in key areas, McCormack would have about 5 more goals by now had kodja passed in a few situations, but he backs himself and you have to rate that. As for benteke, I'm sorry but if you had to pick and you said kodja, you either have short term memory loss or really dislike him for leaving. He was head and shoulders above everyone around him at Villa and could do everything, big strong quick, finesse, guile. Kept us up for 3 years and did it in style, look at some of his goals, vs baggies, vs Norwich, vs Liverpool and when he picked the ball up half way line and ran at Crystal Palace defence solo and buried it.

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29 Dec 2016 00:46:07
Garry Thompson was a legend, one of us, to me personally Benteke being compared to him is a compliment to Benteke, was comparing him and Kodjia to players they were similar to, Kodjia has only played half a season for us so far but looks the business, imo, Carew trumps them all though as a complete No9

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29 Dec 2016 09:30:42
I'd say Carew > Benteke > Kodja, from recent years. Says more that we've only really had 3 good strikers in what 6/ 7 years. I suppose you could say Bent was decent but he faded.

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29 Dec 2016 09:49:13
Chris, that's not fair.
Balaban, kozak, gabby.


Oh hang on.

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29 Dec 2016 10:26:49
One thing that never happened that would have been amazing, Carew and Angel up top, Downing and Young on the wings, I'd say we woulda got 60+ goals out of that combo

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29 Dec 2016 13:05:40
Young Barry Milner downing with angel and Carew in front, your talking 80+ in a season between them!

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29 Dec 2016 13:15:04
Friedel, Mellberg, Laursen, Bouma, Luke Young, on paper that would've been title contenders, where did it all go wrong lol 🇺🇸 👎🏻

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29 Dec 2016 16:44:34
UTV, one word Lerner.

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30 Dec 2016 01:10:50
I can't believe no one mentioned Heskey 😂😂😂.

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28 Dec 2016 15:18:14
Matty James of Leicester could be available on loan, would you take a chance on him?

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28 Dec 2016 01:08:25
Here's a rumour from my frabicated imagination. Did xia really reject a 25m bid for amavi or intuitively put a price tag on the player?

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28 Dec 2016 14:20:29
We will never know for certain.
However if he did then good for him.
Amavi will be a big money player in a couple of years and playing for France full international and hopefully we will be back in the prem and be able to give him the platform to ply his trade while remaining at VP.
There are a few w players that we could afford to be without but Amavi is not on that list.

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28 Dec 2016 16:05:57
I couldn't agree anymore and believe the board are aware of the interest so slapped any potential suitors across the face by pricing them out.

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27 Dec 2016 17:19:15
Aston Villa 2 vs 0 Leeds that's my prediction for the next match.

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27 Dec 2016 17:43:14
Is that the score you predict for every game?! Lol.

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28 Dec 2016 16:26:32
Yes and one day i might get the wright results.

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28 Dec 2016 17:05:45
Haha! Touché! 😏.

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27 Dec 2016 15:09:59
Great too see Xia turning down a offer for Amavi but will he hand a transfer request?25 million is a lot of poke to be fair would you let him go if you was chairman?

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27 Dec 2016 15:59:11
I would let him go.
But if they where watching him yesterday they would retract the offer!

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27 Dec 2016 17:10:22
Add a huge fee for Ayew from the Chinese and we could have 1 he'll of a war chest for January, say £40M+

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27 Dec 2016 17:32:02
In a normal world Amavi would be worth about 15mil, the prices people pay today 25-30 mil is about today. So I could see why it would be attractive but we sell him and then begins the same thing that happened under Lerner, we need to keep our best players and add to them, sell cissoko, sell Kozak, don't sell the first team add to it! However ayew isn't first team anymore, he's been good coming off the bench but as a starter he hinders the team, if China stump up 30 mil then let him go and buy players that add to the squad, brady, Lansbury, Hughes.

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27 Dec 2016 21:44:52
If we sell Amavi, we have to play Cissokho, such is the paucity of our squad in the fullback position
That should clarify things.

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27 Dec 2016 22:30:25
He's replaceable at that money, and if I can read between the lines, would be likely to put in a transfer request to force a move, take the money and run

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27 Dec 2016 23:20:41
Young, Barry, Milner, benteke, downing - all replaceable for the money we got, didn't happen. We have to learn from the past, not just repeat it and expect different results. Don't understand how your reading between the lines and getting that he would put a transfer request in? Because the media said so? The same lot that said we was going to sign half of Chelseas reserves the moment Di matteo was announced, they pull things out of a hat to sell a story, don't read into it at all. Amavi writing all over his social media and in interviews how his happy where he is and wants us to get up the table should reassure you enough.

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28 Dec 2016 00:56:39
Why sell our better players just because of a flattering offer? Successful teams don't sell their best players, why should we!

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28 Dec 2016 05:32:40
Exactly finch.

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28 Dec 2016 11:27:32
Erm. we're not a 'successful' team at the moment? Get out of this division with players suited for the battle, if it takes selling 1 left back to buy 3 players better than what we've got, makes total sense to me. The players we sold and never replaced was mismanagement and piss poor running of a Premier league club. Southampton replaced their overpriced players and ain't done too bad?

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28 Dec 2016 12:59:33
Why sell the best left back in the league who will help us get out of here, for a profit- that by all accounts we don't need, to sign players that we can buy anyway with this extra cash, to get to the prem the new players be redundant and not good enough and then go looking for a left back that is good enough? Makes no sense. Southampton are a regular mid table team, what have they won? What real success will they ever have doing what they are? Is that what we want really, we should keep our best players and build on them.

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28 Dec 2016 13:47:22
I do agree not to sell the best players.
But however, I'm not sure I think he is that great any way.
25m buys a much better class of player than him.

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28 Dec 2016 14:07:20
Or. sell 'arguably' the best left back in the division, replace him with someone like Kieron Gibbs as an example for around £5M (he's into the last 18 months of his contract) spend the £20M+ still left over on 2 midfielders that we're screaming out for, and that's before selling Ayew for stupid money to the Chinese and cutting some of the 'deadwood'. Amavi is a good player, not great. Getting promoted at 1st opportunity is more important than 1 player, and at last we've got a manager and chairman that won't waste that money. We'd all kill to be in the position that Southampton are in, but they are a 'selling' club. An Aston Villa in the Prem wouldn't need to be a selling club with our chairman, I genuinely think that success is more important to him and us being successful will give him the return on his investment. The harsh reality of things is that to crack the top 4 of the Prem, you have to actually be in the Prem, and throw at least £200M+ at it.

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28 Dec 2016 14:14:27
Why do we need to sell him when we don't need the money and we won't attract anyone better? Kieran Gibbs? The one who started for Arsenal yesterday? We're struggling to secure Carl jenkinson on a loan let alone Kieran Gibbs. Let's keep him and sign all these players your hoping for aswell. I'd kill to be in the prem, not specifically southamptons position, we want success not just constant mediocrity.

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28 Dec 2016 15:04:21
Look at it another way.
GK Randolph WH
RB Trippier (loan view to buy)
LB Gibbs loan view to buy)
CB Chester
CB Baker
CM Jedinak
CM McCarthy EVE
CM Hughes DER
AM Adomah
AM Brady NOR
ST Kodjia

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28 Dec 2016 16:09:28
Yea but look at it realistic, Hughes brady are the only ones we have a chance at getting from that list. Randolph is first choice at West Ham, trippier would have premier league interest, Gibbs with Monreal injured is first team. Point still stands we don't need to sell Amavi to sign these players.

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28 Dec 2016 16:15:55
The grass isn't always greener on the other side ally/ flackie which was also a lambert quote Re benteke and look where he ended up aswell as Aston villa football club. we could sell amavi make a tidy profit then sign the players you mentioned but it doesn't mean they'll be a success playing for the villa.
It's more of a risk to sell and replace a player, which has been proved time an time again in football.

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28 Dec 2016 16:23:18
Fair enough, need to wheel and deal then. Is everyone still dark on selling the naming rights for VP to make funds available? Would still be Villa Park to us?

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28 Dec 2016 16:44:39
Don't think think we need anything to gain funds ally from what's being reported, we are on the right side of FFP and we have funds available. Keep our best players and add quality, two centre mids are needed with atleast one going out. Left mid/ winger and a right back and we are looking very strong.

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28 Dec 2016 16:50:20
Sounds then Chris, nice 1 👍🏻

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27 Dec 2016 10:32:12
Bunn
Hutton baker elphic Amavi
Bacuna Jedinak grealish
Adomah McCormack kodja

That would be my team for Leeds, essentially 5 across the middle when we haven't got the ball, harder to break down won't get overrun. Bacuna has shown his best position is in the middle as a box to box midfielder, grealish has to start and although kodja is wasted out wide it would only be whilst we weren't in possession. When we've got the ball it would be a 433 with jack pushing up as a number 10. Jack and Ross work brilliant together down the centre and adomah and kodja can go wide or cut in. Only problem is I remember they had that Bartley at the back who was liked a battle, with Ross in the middle we can't just pump it up, the whole formation would be reliant on us having the ball on the deck where our players are undoubtedly better. That and if we are going to pump it up, put it out to the left where kodja vs their right back, we should always be winning the header!

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27 Dec 2016 13:01:50
Chester?

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27 Dec 2016 13:43:40
Yea Chester not elphic, my bad.

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26 Dec 2016 23:37:27
First of all - great attendance today with over 41.000. Clearly the intro of Jack The Lad at half time made a massive difference to midfield dominance. Thirdly, if we are sponsored by Greene King IPA (quality ale) how come I am still suffering sh1t Heineken or Fosters in the bars?

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27 Dec 2016 09:43:44
Have u tried Brewdog IPA? Thank me later 👍🏻

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26 Dec 2016 21:50:45
Jus watched Wednesday an that Sam Hutchinson was awesome tonight he never stopped I'd take him in a flash also will Hughes and Tom cairney.

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26 Dec 2016 19:22:12
Jedinak and Gardener, both terrible today, looked like to much Xmas pudding . We are crying out for a midfield Dynamo, somebody full of energy, somebody to keep the ball moving . Time after time every thing slows down to a walk, Villa play their best football when it's moved fast . The first thing you teach kids play the ball, move into space for the return . Not very often we see it happening, they play it and stand still . Jedinak today was just happy to get a boot on it . Baker played well and Bacuna was a man possessed at times . You have to give it Bacuna, after all that happened last season, the kid has kept his head down and worked at it . let's see what Santa Tony, gets for us in the sales . Onwards& Upwards Villaforever.

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26 Dec 2016 21:42:16
You are right Dave Jedinak and gardener weren't good enough today and should of closed down the cross for their goal but that wasn't the biggest problem today. Kodja has been arguably our best signing so far but today he was not on his game, offside 7 times in one game? I couldn't tell from the holte if grealishs effort would of made it in but he ran in a tapped it anyway from offside an got that ruled off, jumping under headers when there's no one around him, blasting it over from a crossed position with 3 in the box. Adomah wasn't great either, but says a lot when two of our most influential players aren't on their game and we still win, points are points and everyone left happy so buzzing! Onto Leeds! Buzzing for bacuna aswell, he deserved that!

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26 Dec 2016 23:55:32
Bacuna had best day at the office for a long time. Agree Jedinak was back into 'cart horse mode' and Kodjia was on a different wave length today. Hope Ross Mac goal will fire home up in time for ACoN gaps up front? Wasn't a pretty spectacle but another ground out result! Didn't appreciate the halftime booing be it a small minority of he mega 41k crowd! With today's performance LUFC is going to be a massive task UTV.

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27 Dec 2016 09:42:54
Agree Jedinak, Gardener, Adoma and Amarvi didn't have there best games. Bacuna was great 20 for mins disappeared then came back again
Kodjia a threat but had he ever won s header or pass the ball. it's ok to take on the world when you are 3-0 up. There were 2 or 3 opportunities for him to cross the ball when we had 3 players in the box.
McCormack needs to get in the box s bit more it was as if he was playing a no 10 role at times but his link up work with Grealish for the run into the area 2nd half shows them two are miles above the others technically
Baker Chester Bunn outstanding
Hutton got caught a couple of times
Overall though a sloppy performance against a team who were playing there cup final and getting 3 points to go above the blues
Not sure who there no 16 was but he looked a very useful
Player.

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27 Dec 2016 10:25:12
Agree about the booing nick, abloke round by me said "booing really? Can't you tell there's 10,000 who haven't been in a few years"

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27 Dec 2016 10:41:31
I don't understand booing!
I don't see how it is motivating, inspiring or productive!
All it does is give an edge to the opponent!

Also, that was possibly the biggest game in burtons history. a massive derby in the highest league they have played in. Using an old cliche, a cup final for them. their players where up for it, ours wasn't!

It happens.
I'm just happy we got another 3 points with out playing well. as to be honest, we have played 20x better than that and got nothing.
The sign of a decent 'team' is to grind our results when playing poorly.

The same mentality obviously against Leeds and they beat us. But if we turn it on against them. we are back in the hunt big time!

One question though. why wasn't oasis played at the end?

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27 Dec 2016 11:00:37
Happy new year all. Not been on for a while posting but still reading all the banter. As a curve ball how about franky lamps till the end of the season.

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27 Dec 2016 11:28:00
If he would come. that would be incredible.

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28 Dec 2016 09:42:09
Going back to booing
Not on really
I was chuffed to see 41000 + there and the same for Thursday against Leeds will be great
It would be good for the fair weather fans ( not literally) to turn up a bit more
Not being elitist or what special privileges for sitting there though O'Dreary Mcleish Garde De matto etc but we generally know who the boo boys are this season
The bloke at the bar who orders 4 pints at 2:45 for two people
The bloke with the girlfriend/ wife and she spends all game on her phone
Or the bloke who gives you and the rest of the stand a running commentary
Great to see Dr Xia sticking to his guns over Amarvi but 25 million with a follow on percentage clause is appetising
Not sure who would replace Amarvi but £25 million would go a long way
I wasn't impressed with Amarvi before injury last year . Have to admit he has impressed he this season
Imagine the fair weather fans judging Amarvi Jedinak and Gardener on there performance yesterday
And worse still in there eyes Ayew should start every week
Funny Old Game.

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{Ed003's Note - Just how some modern day fans are Charmed,Christmas always brings out more fans due to a lack of work committments.Merry Christmas.}

26 Dec 2016
The real time live chat page is open for today's Aston Villa match at the below link for you to talk to each other during the match
Aston Villa Live Chat page

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26 Dec 2016 11:55:10
Anyone planning on a pre-match pint today?

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26 Dec 2016 15:51:42
I'll take that as a resounding no then 😀.

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24 Dec 2016 17:44:23
Happy Christmas to all posters and Eds.
Hope it`s a good one.

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{Ed001's Note - Merry Christmas to you too dave.}

24 Dec 2016 16:21:17
🎉🎉🎈🎈🍺🍺 MERRY CHRISTMAS &A HAPPY NEW YEAR 🎉🎉🎈🍺🍺🍺 To all . let's hope that 2017 is the year for us all
Onwards and Upwards Villaforever.

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24 Dec 2016 16:31:12
Merry Christmas mate.

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24 Dec 2016 11:26:30
Merry Christmas everyone!
Fans and supporters alike! (Joke! )

Even you eds, hope you all have a great few days. happy birthday ed01!

See you all on the 26th!

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{Ed001's Note - hahahaha cheers Flackie, merry Christmas to you too mate.}

23 Dec 2016 19:04:23
After everything the last few years hopefully Villa give us all a brilliant Christmas and beat burton 6-0 and leave a lynx set under every seat.

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23 Dec 2016 20:46:20
Not Lynx Africa though.

UTV.

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23 Dec 2016 22:00:00
always preferred Lynx Chocolate me.

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24 Dec 2016 01:09:47
Theres nothing more Christmassy than being in The Holte End on Boxing Day and the younger lads dripping in Joop! Puts me off my pint 😷

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23 Dec 2016 16:18:03
Hi everyone happy xmas its been ages i stuck to my promise under rdm an not come on this site tell xmas . glad we brucey a class manager think we will go up by 6th place play off winners if not be nxt season I've missed this site 😅😅🎅🎅🎅everyone villa1980.

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23 Dec 2016 13:38:25
Merry christmas to all the Aston Villa fans out there. We should beat Burton 2-0.

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23 Dec 2016 10:38:27
Is there any possibility in getting m'Villa from Rubin Kazan.
Guy wanted to move to England, Aston Villa can offer him that.
He is a good defensive midfielder. Will be perfect for 4-2-3-1 formation.

Hi Eds,

Can you please list all the players who are genuinely linked with Villa?

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23 Dec 2016 10:54:27
Apologies I closed the reply box by mistake before sending this through.

All the players is difficult, every club keeps tabs on hundreds, sometimes even thousands of players over the course of a season. When an enquiry or bid goes in, that is the only time you can be sure of interest. Even then, it is impossible to find out all of them.

This season is particularly difficult, as the rules on agents has been relaxed by FIFA, meaning that anyone can set themselves up as an 'intermediary' as they are now called. That means you have all these new people making claims about representing players and trying to find them clubs etc, when they actually have no working relationship with those players.

One I have been told that is a possibility, as he is considering his options and wants to play in England, is Matthew Ryan of Valencia. They are a selling club, he is out of favour, Bruce rates him. He is Australia's keeper and needs first team football and Villa can offer him that. The issue is that there are other options for him, such as some interest from West Ham. Jedinak might well be your secret weapon in persuading him......

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23 Dec 2016 11:09:23
I read something about him as well ed, at least I think it was re him, that he is a villa fan and rooms with jedinak.

I think this is a great shout. and a lot more experience than another rookie.

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23 Dec 2016 11:14:58
No issues Ed001.

Regarding "trying to find them clubs etc, when they actually have no working relationship with those players. ". Realy? How does it even work then? Does anybody listen to them and their offer? It should be confusing as the actual agent is someone else but another person is claiming that HE/ SHE represents that player.

Sorry for these many queries, not heard of Valencia guy so much and GK isn't the actual problem right now. anyone else from other positions?

That was some information though. Tired of reading craps in newspapers.

Thanks a lot mate and Merry Christmas.!

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{Ed001's Note - the clubs have to try and sift through and find out who is genuine and who isn't. They do not always get it right. I know you are after fullbacks as well, I just don't have anything names on that though yet. Not definite ones anyway.}

23 Dec 2016 11:20:42
Moreover, searched for his (Matthew Ryan) profile. Didn't he join Valencia a season ago?
He has played 2 games and conceded 5 Goals this season. I know it is also the defense who is responsible for leaking goals but will he able to provide us what we are searching for. CONFIDENCE BETWEEN THE STICKS.!

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{Ed001's Note - I really don't know if he is what you need. Personally I do not rate him, I think he is a bit of a show pony, makes spectacular saves even when the save is actually simple. I just know that there is definitely some interest in bringing him in, Bruce likes him a lot and is not convinced by the keepers you have.}

24 Dec 2016 03:59:48
May be its Jedinak who has convinced bruce, just maybe. Not sure to be excited or not. Well when you get anything on any other positions please let us know. Thanks a lot for the info ED.

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{Ed001's Note - could well be, Jedinak has defo spoken with Bruce with regards to players.}

21 Dec 2016 21:34:54
Would love to know, what's gone on with Tiss and Brucie . When he first came, other than being a bit raw, he looked the full package . Athletic, strong, liked to get a tackle in and get forward . Seems a shame if it's not football related, but down to attitude . Onwards&Upwards Villaforever .
Also a Merry Christas &Happy new year to one and all.

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22 Dec 2016 08:55:25
He played in the game vs Wolves and hasn't been seen since, don't understand it at all.

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{Ed001's Note - Aaron Tshibola? I know there have been a few issues after an intermediary claimed to be helping out by offering the lad to European clubs for a loan move, only to have his agent make a public statement to say: Leon Anderson Football Executive This is false information and not his player to promote in such a unprofessional fashion. I represent and promote the player and find this so crass. Absolutely embarrassing!

I don't know if I should mention the name of the person who had been offering him around, as it could well have been a genuine mistake on his part. He is a former player who is new to the agent game, so could easily have been misled or misinformed.

The lad himself had a few problems at Reading, so it is possible he is just a pain in the backside to be honest. Bruce won't put up with troublemakers that are there now.}

22 Dec 2016 09:35:00
jesus you are a font of information!

Thanks ed! .

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{Ed001's Note - always a pleasure Flackie. It is Christmas after all, so a time for giving out presents, such as info.}

22 Dec 2016 10:57:15
Fair play then we've seen what trouble causing players can do so if his got an attitude we should leave him out. Cheers ed.

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20 Dec 2016 18:47:12
Was watching Everton game last night and I can see why there interested in amavi, baines seen to be half the player we was a couple of season ago, my point is if they want him would barry be a good shout plus money our way because I do think barry will want to come back to the mighty villa to finish off his career he didn't leave on bad terms and think he still has a bit about him and can't get into the Everton team at the moment.

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20 Dec 2016 18:59:30
I remember him leaving on bad terms!

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20 Dec 2016 19:12:25
Definitely got grief coming back as a player. would love him back. just not sure he would.

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20 Dec 2016 20:51:55
if Amavi is going to go they should be asking for 20-25mil minimum, Everton paid 32 for bolasie and were willing to pay 30 odd for sissoko.

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20 Dec 2016 22:07:59
I always taught barry had siad he wanted to leave to go play champions league football it was a pitty when he did go we were starting to pit together a good squad, young millner downing carew larrson melberg petrov friedal good days when we went into most games with a great chance winning.

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20 Dec 2016 22:33:18
I agree mate.
Was a great team!

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21 Dec 2016 08:29:21
Hate to say it but Gabby was in that team aswell.

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21 Dec 2016 09:03:30
Jesus chris!

You have to ruin everything! Lol


He was in that team, but that team was full of men, and proper pros. can you see melberg, friedal, Larsen etc letting him behave the way he did? Or allowing his head to swell, or his fitness to drop?!

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21 Dec 2016 10:51:36
Haha sorry, yea if like all the best clubs in Europe we had kept Larsen, mellberg and the like and then promoted them into coaching roles I don't think we would have seen the decline of Gabby, or delph leaving the way he did. Shame really that squad was leading us to something special but the ownership and managers somehow turned it the other way.

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21 Dec 2016 11:25:04
Dead right mate.
We are where we are because of miss management. from the top, not actually towards the football!

But we had to hit the bottom so we can climb back up!

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21 Dec 2016 18:23:37
Totally agree it was a great squad team full of pros with the odd youngster thrown in, I have to say the complete blame has to lie at learners hands o neill was building something and learner just sold barry and Co yeah o neill spent a lot off money and paid high wages on some older players but that what we need to do to break into them champions league positions flackie I know your Taughts on o neill but he did build that squad and he did get some average players playing good football, young or downing has barely kicked a ball since they left us
Well I think we have hit bottom and we are slowly climbing let's hope we keep climbing this time until we reach the peek.

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21 Dec 2016 19:02:08
lol I don't blame O'Neil mate. I just don't think he leaves a legacy!
Man management, amazing!
Average players brainwashed to believe they are world beaters! Incredible!
But payed them world beaters wages.
We had an incredible team, full of average players. It just worked. he was the glue that pulled them together.
Once he walked, it fell apart!

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21 Dec 2016 20:08:32
Yea I agree the blame lies at Lerners door, left a man leave because you won't spend 20m on Bent then sign him when his already left? And flog all our best players? Good one. I agree flackie he didn't leave a legacy but I think he could have left one had we not sold the squad and backed him.

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22 Dec 2016 14:13:42
Sorry. Barry didn't leave on bad terms? He got absolute 'delph' style stick when he left and ripped into when he came back.

Also. did he not sign a new contract extension last week?

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22 Dec 2016 19:44:58
I don't signing contracts really matter anymore just have to look at what the snake did last year.

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20 Dec 2016 11:56:24
Football aside it's sad to lose anyone at any time but at Christmas it's just that little sadder so RIP all those involved in Berlin.

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20 Dec 2016 11:59:10
The world is a scary place at the minute mate.
Great post mate.

In my thoughts and prayers.

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19 Dec 2016 20:19:34
Like to see other people's views on who they think has been our best players so far
Kodjia by far
Chester looks solid
Amavi get his form back
Adomha never gives defender's a second
Hutton dare I say it but looks decant
Baker not great with the ball but pretty solid last season done him wonders
Grealish has been alright in patches
There is my 7 players it's our usual back 4 but there doing alright
I think on current form get a couple of decent signings in with these and we will climb that table.

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19 Dec 2016 20:33:38
I'd say
Amavi best player, consistent every week
Kodja second, goal scorer but fustrated out wide
Chester third, best defender I've seen at villa for a while but unfortunately part of one that for the start of the season let us down badly
Adomah fourth, like a cart horse up and down running non stop from start to finish but I still think he can offer more
Baker fifth, never going to be a ball playing centre back but has really hit solid form, absolute rock recently just look how much we missed him
Grealish sixth, starting to show his ability more consistently, need to find a position centrally where he can get at defences
Jedinak seventh, kept us in games lately and been crucial but looked out of his depth for a while when he joined.

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19 Dec 2016 21:47:44
Can't believe you didn't do a top ten Chris!
Bloody half arsed effort! 😂.

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19 Dec 2016 22:02:37
There much the same Chris other than I have hutton who in fairness I think he gets a raw deal with the fans maybe his biggest down fall is his crossing and finial ball but I think he has been solid as of late and is always an outlet for us
I didn't pit jendinak in for one reason and that's his passing I know he wasn't baught for his ball playing but he gives the ball away to easy so often its frustrating don't get me wrong he puts in a good shift breaking up play and to be fair he has been carrying Westwood and gardener all season which I think will be a fixed come January.

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19 Dec 2016 22:44:22
Haha flackie believe me I could of but mick did 7 so I thought I'd stick with it
And yea mick I get both sides of the argument, he's made the right back spot his own last 5 or 6 games but I do think sometimes he's out of position too often, getting in a right back in Jan will help push him to be consistent. No matter what tho he always seems to be the most passionate and never gives in!

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19 Dec 2016 15:17:07
With Kodjia at the Africa cup and also other players which could last 3 weeks. Do we need to sign a striker and who. Any views on this.

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19 Dec 2016 20:37:31
People have been saying Jordan Rhodes but is that just because his available? I don't know much about his play style tbh is he a player who will do a similar job to kodja? I think Hernandez from hull is injured but I think afobe from bournemouth, forestieri (despite his height) or Scott hogan could be good options. However if we don't sell Rudy we could stick to a 442, and play Ross and gustede up top, this would suit McCormack more as he'd have a target next to him, could also cross the ball a lot more into gustede who will win the headers and McCormack feed of any drop downs.

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19 Dec 2016 20:49:29
Rumour around my neck of woods is ujoa (not sure how you spell it! ) from Leicester is all but done!
Personally I hope not!

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19 Dec 2016 21:21:31
Same flackie he is no doubtedly a goal scorer but his similar to gustede in many ways just a bit more mobile, then again the titanic is more agile than gustede and probably has a smaller turning circle.

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19 Dec 2016 21:48:45
Leonardo ulloa!
Should of googled first! Sorry!

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19 Dec 2016 14:31:14
So I would like to add my input for our January transfer window.

I would bring in Brady, to give us some attacking strength through the middle.

Forestieri attacking down the left and linking up with Amavi.

Vincent Enyeama or Schwarzer in goal.

Enyeama/ Schwarzer
Hutton Chester Baker Amavi
Brady Grealish Jedinak
Adomah Kodjia Foresterei

Outs;
Ayew
Gabby
Kozak
Gestede.

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19 Dec 2016 15:08:43
what formations that mate? because i don't think wed get far with brady and grealish playing as centre mids. I do like the team tho, swap grealish for a centre mid like Will Hughes or Lansbury and play a 442 with
adomah lansbury jedinak brady
Kodja foresterei
because also I'm pretty sure forestieri is a striker.

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19 Dec 2016 17:05:48
Forestieri is actually an attacking left mid or winger. Wednesday play him as striker. It would be a 4-5-1 essentially, Grealish at no 10, Jedinak playing more defensive and Brady linking up play as a box to box midfielder. We then can attack down both flanks and through the middle. I still have a lot of faith in Grealish if he gets more time and space.

SB likes to play more compact. But unfortunately he has to play players out of position to play a more attacking formation due to the unbalanced team he has inherited.

Maybe my theory is outlandish but by buying only 3 players it strengthens where we are weak and balances the team in my opinion.

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19 Dec 2016 19:30:41
I have to say I don't really see what everyone else sees in Brady. That said, I've not seen that much of him
(Notice I stopped short of saying I might be wrong)

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19 Dec 2016 19:33:26
Haha!

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19 Dec 2016 20:42:16
Fair enough villasa I didn't realise about forrestieri, he is quick enough to play on the wing so makes sense. That would work well it fits grealish at 10 which is what we need, can switch him with McCormack aswell as an when needed! Personally I'd either play brady on the left or just switch him for a proper known centre mid.

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19 Dec 2016 12:21:07
Hey lads, great to see this forum filled with descent debates and sensible arguments. I took a break for a while, but it's great to see its back. Thanks to flackie for being a catalyst on that and thanks to all the old guard for following suite. Chris appreciate your good insight too.

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19 Dec 2016 12:55:24
Cheers mate you watch the game yesterday?

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19 Dec 2016 13:04:12
Welcome back mate. The more people on here the merrier. But I have to disagree slightly about the debates and differing views. They've not been away!

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19 Dec 2016 13:54:27
Yea, did what watch the game, glad we grounded out a win. Could've been 3-0 on another day. Their keeper had a blinder. I agree with most, service is lacking in the midfield.

I really think we could use Grealish better though. If we had a player similar to kante, feeding the ball up as quick as he does, Grealish would be our hazard, with more space to work to either score or feed our strikers, he just needs an extra half metre I recon. I really think Tshibolo could do that for now, the same way Delph used to, but if we are not going to use Tish, then we need to look else where.

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19 Dec 2016 13:44:55
Differing views were at an all time high! But good to see more and more people coming back and getting involved again.

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19 Dec 2016 14:34:28
Look guys, if nothing else hopefully it's made people come back and say hi again!
I don't want a discussion about how it was, good or bad, we should all move forward!
I'm just happy to see more posting again!

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18 Dec 2016 21:46:41
Played alright today taught we gave the ball away a bit to much it's easy to see jendinak isiant in there for his passing, unfortunately mccormack offered nothing maybe not match fit at the moment back 4 done alright no sloppy mistakes midfield looked pretty strong (without Westwood) and kodjia is a goal machine all in all a good day at the office we just need back to back wins now oh I have never seen a winger to nick or win a tackle like adomha.

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18 Dec 2016 22:07:52
I agree mate good to see Bruce shake it up after the Norwich performance. Thought McCormack would of been better if we have a bit more of a bridge between midfield and attack, he kept having to pick it up too deep every time so hopefully get a quality mid who can bridge that gap!

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18 Dec 2016 23:06:26
Good game today. the points where crucial, with out stating the obvious!

Don't think I have seen a player need a goal more than Ross! But got to be honest, he is not playing himself into the team!

For the first time in a long time, we have a team that can win ugly. I like the fact we can pick up points with out being incredible. as long as we don't drop them when we turn it on!

Merry Christmas one and all.

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19 Dec 2016 09:47:16
Yea Mccormack needs a goal, should have scored the rebound but if you look back when kodja had a shot blocked in the box an straight after he won it backan worked the keeper into a brilliant save, for the first shot Ross was free across the box for the tap in. So it's fine margins, if we sign a rightback, centre mid even though Gardner did well, a centre back for back up and a first team keeper I could see that making play offs, maybe striker for the first team whilst kodjas away.

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19 Dec 2016 12:00:04
It's a good point!
I'm not sure on the argument for a right back, I've said before I know, but I think Hutton gets a rough deal!

Gk god yes, midfielder yes! And I think amavi is off. so lb more so!

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19 Dec 2016 13:01:55
Really hope Amavi doesn't go he is easily the best left back in the league IMO, and yea we need a keeper who's been there and done it not sam Johnstone from united, we've got a young keeper who looks like it will be good one day already! I get your point about Hutton, when he first got his chance under blues he was shakey (blues) and although he's made a few mistakes since (Cardiff goal) his been reasonably solid, I'd still like to see jenkinson come in however just so there's competition for it and we see the best out of both! Can't think of a mid i'd want tho, will Hughes could fit the bill but seems light weight, Lansbury would do well but behaves like a door knob.

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18 Dec 2016 11:53:22
Bunn, really?

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18 Dec 2016 13:53:56
He's played well mate!

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18 Dec 2016 14:03:13
Just finished watching the game, hold my hands up I was not expecting a performance like that from him! Played very well fair play to him!

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18 Dec 2016 15:10:33
i think against a better team he would have struggled today, didn't really have much to do i thought, but all in all clean sheet and we got the three points, and will he stick for the next game?

still want a better keeper in jan, we need that cool head at the back bossing the back 4 around.

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17 Dec 2016 21:12:04
Gollini
Hutton elphick Chester Amavi
adomah tish Jedinak grealish
McCormack
Kodjia
That's how I'd line up tmro
In Jan bring in jenkinson or Trippier on loan and sign McCarthy and cairney.

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17 Dec 2016 10:52:39
Just a thought. Danny Wellbeck is back in full training for Arsenal, a 1 month loan in January to cover our ACN players or maybe till end of season loan if Ayew does 1? Would free up funds for the midfield if we got at least our money back for Ayew

UTV.

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17 Dec 2016 12:16:19
Good call 👍.

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17 Dec 2016 13:50:02
I would love this mate.
Can't see arsenal letting him go, sadly.

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17 Dec 2016 19:58:02
Would be brilliant but i honk if he was to be put out on loan there would be 10+ prem teams first in the que.

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17 Dec 2016 23:52:05
After the injurys Welbeck has had arsenal will wrap him in cotton wool, not expose him to the rigours of the championship.

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17 Dec 2016 08:58:19
after years of hype over grealish or gardener and them not really living up to it fully i really want to see this kid RHM get a few games,

ive never seen him play before at u21 level so not sure what to expect.

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17 Dec 2016 13:49:44
I think grealish will live up to the hype.

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17 Dec 2016 14:53:25
he might do eventually but at minute he's still hit and miss, bu tthe way people banged on before he made first team you would think he's going to save the team same as gardener last season.

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17 Dec 2016 19:58:36
Yea I agree, grealish is as good as they make out it's just consistency.

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16 Dec 2016 23:33:48
QPR 0 Aston villa 2.

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17 Dec 2016 08:07:16
Hope you are right mate!
Sadly from last games I'm not so sure!
Think we may be lucky to draw.

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17 Dec 2016 08:08:20
QPR 0 Villa 3 - Tshibola to be back in the team and have a really good game, kodja to score 1 and McCormack to score 2.

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16 Dec 2016 14:42:43
So it's almost transfer window time .

IMO think there are only slight modifications required to the team.

Clearly SB has a liking for 4-3-3 although I would favour 4-4-2

I would sell without hesitation Ayew as he just doesn't have the heart to play and is one of the greediest players I have seen . if the end product was there then great, unfortunately there isn't an end product. I would also sell Gestede and Gabby as IMO both aren't good enough.

I would then bring in Hernandez from hull and promote Rushian Hepburn Murphy to the 1st team

Midfield is where we really lacking I would break the bank for Will Hughes from Derby to partner Jedinak in midfield

I know it's been mentioned in the process but also bring in Robbie Brady from Norwich if they sell him to us

3 in 2 out happy days . add 2 loans of jenkinson and Johnson and business is done.

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16 Dec 2016 16:57:57
I like it Kenn, I'd prefer 2 up top aswell. Wouldn't minding seeing them go all out and pay for someone like McCarthy.

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15 Dec 2016 22:15:22
If I was Bruce I'd tell Kodja and McCormack they've got the next 3 games together up front, it's up to them how they want to work, who wants to play off who and that they need to tell the others how their going to play and how they want the ball into them. I want a minimum of 4 goals between them in 3 games, show us why we paid the money for you.

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16 Dec 2016 12:53:25
Its a good idea Chris. Except they rely on chances provided by wingers and midfielders.
So I think it might be best to leave it until January by which time SB, hopefully, will have signed 2 or 3.

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16 Dec 2016 13:17:29
Stevie Wonder can see it's midfield that's the problem. Your suggestion would just divert attention and culpability.

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16 Dec 2016 14:26:42
It wouldn't deflect anything, if they get the service they have requested and score - best outcome, they get the service and don't score - they get taken out for the youngsters, they don't get the service - final straw for the players around them. If they can't follow basic instructions and provide the ball how the forwards want then they really are useless and we'd be better off with the youth team in there. Was just an idea of how to get the confidence back into them, kodja missed two sitters vs Wigan and McCormack needs building back up after his injuries. Both of them thrived previously playing in a top two so it's about time we tried them there.

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16 Dec 2016 15:02:43
I agree about playing Kodija upfront. McCormack looks unfit.
In any case, do you think players don't already talk to each other and say what kind of service they want? I'm sure Kodija is constantly saying "I want the ball whipped across the box, in-front of me at pace" but we haven't the players to do it (Adomah aside)
The minute I hear throw the youngsters in I tend to whince. The conceit there is that the youngsters are better than what we have. SB sees them day/ day out. He's not going to exclude because they are young; he would exclude if they are no better than what we have.
The problem with your suggestion is that it places the responsibility for the teams failings on the front 2. Messi wouldn't have had a sniff against Norwich the other night. I wouldn't drop him after 3 games because Westwood is a cart horse and Jedinak's legs have gone.

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16 Dec 2016 17:02:53
Hepburn Murphy played about 20minutes vs Newcastle earlier in the season and looked quality. From what we've heard McCormack always has looked unfit so I wouldn't read anything into it. And it's funny you say that about the ball in behind with pace because they did that 3 times vs Wigan and kodja just wasn't on the same page and wanted it in to feet. I get what you saying but the point is if they get the ball how they want it and still don't score then surely that's their fault no? They both played week in week out in a front two and scored buckets of goals so why aren't we giving them a chance at it.

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16 Dec 2016 17:31:04
I am with chris on this one, its a no brainer for me.

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16 Dec 2016 18:55:22
Chris I agree about the front 2. I would like to see it . I’d also like to see some more of Rushian-no argument there. My example of the ball in behind with pace was exactly that, an example. I don’t know what Kodija says to his teammates regarding service. My point is, he will be saying something.
My greater point is that if we accept we have decent forwards (which I think we do) we should be looking at the team as a whole rather than just the forwards.
Let’s imagine we do what you say. If the results aren’t what we’d all like we drop Kodija and McCormack after 3 games. Then we put in Gestede and Hepburn Murphy for 3 games; still no better. What do we do then? Kozak and a youth player?
And while this is going on we do nothing about the real issue (because we can’t until January) the midfield. Sorry mate, it makes no sense to me.

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16 Dec 2016 19:40:16
Yea I got your example I was just pointing out if was ironic after what had happened. I just think saying they've got 3 games will give them confidence but then saying we expect a certain amount will motivate them.

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16 Dec 2016 21:52:57
It's a good sharing of views on this .
As I see it the bottom line is that we don't score enough goals and concede too many. Why?
Because our midfield is not good enough. And we only have 1 out and out winger.
Top midfielders cost big dosh but they are the heart of the team. They protect the defence, provide good quality chances for the forwards and score a few themselves.
The midfield we have currently does NONE of these very well. Solve the huge hole that is our midfield and everything else will fall into place.

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16 Dec 2016 23:08:46
Fair point Andy, would you sign one top class midfielder and play two up top, or sign two midfielders and play one up top?

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16 Dec 2016 23:58:59
Neither Chris, necessarily. i'd sign 2 real top quality midfielders, left winger and a RB to replace Hutton and vary the formations from week to week according to who the opposition is.
If the players are good enough, they will adapt to any formation.

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17 Dec 2016 08:07:19
Fair point, could always go two up top against the smaller teams at home and then 3 in the middle against the better teams. I do agree about your signings, i want to say I'd sign a centre back aswell but Toner is back soon and he looks like he could be decent! I'd go for a proven quality centre mid big money if it has to be like McCarthy, then someone who's quality but maybe not been in the prem and a little cheaper like Will Hughes. I think Jenkinson and Johnstone are done deals and then Jordan Rhodes is a no brainer. Left wing I'd be looking to swap ayew in that deal if I'm honest, he's useless and on big wages, Brady would be quality because he defends aswell, but you could always look at knockeart and just see who would come.

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17 Dec 2016 12:24:14
Good stuff Chris 👍 Jeffrey Schlupp has been mentioned by press as a possibility. If true, that would be a really good signing. But we all know about press rumours! However, if it were true he's a left footed pacy winger with pedigree . Just what we need.

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15 Dec 2016 19:20:27
Evening all, great to be back talking and discussing our team in a sensible manner.
Everything can be divided into sections of debate, what is correct, what you think, and what someone else thinks, IMO that is how it should be.

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15 Dec 2016 20:24:48
Brilliant that we're getting proper football debates now!

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15 Dec 2016 20:35:12
Hopefully it stays this way and the bumper number of games coming up and the transfer window gives us plenty to talk about (all good I hope! ) .

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15 Dec 2016 09:58:02
Shows how low our game has gone
Might get slaughtered for this
But Gary Rowett sacked
He had worked miracles at Small Heath FC
No budget as such
Ahead of the us in the league
Typical blues though best thing that ever happened to them
Best thing that could happen for us.

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15 Dec 2016 12:52:23
I get what you're saying. Anything that prolongs their miserable, pointless existence is amusing for us.
But surely we should be a lot more concerned with our own future . They don't have one.

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15 Dec 2016 12:52:42
I get what you're saying. Anything that prolongs their miserable, pointless existence is amusing for us.
But surely we should be a lot more concerned with our own future . They don't have one.

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15 Dec 2016 18:09:47
Why should we be concerned with our future?

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15 Dec 2016 19:10:26
Daz, sorry mate I think you missed the point, Andy is saying, why worry about bluenoses, our future is the future we should be talking about not theirs.
If that makes sense, sorry to poke my nose in, if you pardon the pun.

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15 Dec 2016 20:46:11
Thanks Dave 👍 I didn't word it very well.

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15 Dec 2016 21:18:48
No Probs Andy, Put some water with it mate. 👍.

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14 Dec 2016 18:43:32
We have tried pretty and failed.
Tried keep ball and failed.
Indeed everything we have tried has failed.
Apparently we have the two best strikers in the championship but they don't score.
Lots of static players not looking for an opening or moving into a position to recheive a pass.
No imagination and no variety.
Need a solid no nonsense c/ h.
Need a hard midfield maestro (Charlie Adam? )
Need someone who can see a pass.
Need to get the ball in the box!

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14 Dec 2016 19:38:24
Mate it was one game, bad day at the office. Not the apocalypse. Don't give up just yet.

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14 Dec 2016 20:12:55
But it wasn`t one game was it, we were very poor against Wigan.
We make such hard work of everything we do, three good midfield players, Kodjia should play off or behind an out and out striker, and I think we would be almost there.

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14 Dec 2016 20:45:00
No disprepesct Dave but if a team like wigan put 10 men behind the ball it is very hard to find gaps between the defence and midfield so I disagree there bud. I agree that we was very poor against Norwich come Sunday I suspect it will be a different Villa lining up with a positive result.

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14 Dec 2016 21:02:22
Yes it is hard Daz I agree, but that is the reason you need to play wide people to get in behind and cross the ball.
We mess about too much mate, backwards, sideways, for heaven`s sake.
Listen I love Bruce and what we have to come.
Three times yesterday we were on the edge of the Norwich area and three times it ended up back with Gollini, explain that to me please or am I missing something.

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14 Dec 2016 21:15:39
We knew the deficiencies in the squad before Bruce took over. It's all about midfield. Bruce will know it as well
He has not had a chance to address this as yet and it might take more than the one transfer window to do it
Given the circumstances it's remarkable he's done so well
Give the guy a reasonable chance to address the issues that need addressing and we will be fine.

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14 Dec 2016 21:24:03
Nobody is having a pop at Bruce Mendax, just making some obvious observations.
I think Bruce is great like I said, I also think you will see for our next game some big changes.

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14 Dec 2016 21:51:16
Trouble is Dave we really do not have any wide men to cross the ball as such Ayew is being played out of position so is Kodja and Grealish as Mendex said Brucey hasn't had nothing to work with yet as such come January he will address it that I'm sure of as what you said about being on the edge yes I agree mate but unless there is no movement then the only way is to keep possession and try and build again in the words of the great Jimmy Greaves "It's a funny old game"

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14 Dec 2016 22:15:40
It is a funny old game Daz for sure.
It has to be if a club has 20+ professionals on its books and nobody can play wide and cross the ball.
You have to try things, Fulham sold its two best strikers at the end of last season, yet a bit of shifting and shuffling and bingo third highest scorers in the division.
Nothing ventured nothing gained, who dares wins, so they say.
Play some youngsters, like a lot have been saying on here, blimey I don’t mind losing if I get value for money.

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14 Dec 2016 22:24:02
Just the way you wrote it Dave like it was game over and already decided we wasn't getting promotion, you might not of meant it like that but that's the way it read. We need to be patient and wait until after Jan then we will know if we are good enough to go up!

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14 Dec 2016 22:50:43
Nothing could be further from the truth, If you read it that way you should give up reading chris.
Why is it if you speak as you see things people on this site jump on you for being some sort of doom and gloom merchant.
I think we could very well make the playoffs, but try new things, and have a go.

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14 Dec 2016 23:32:22
Isn't it great to actually have a club/ team/ football discussion again!?

We all knew the problems we have in the squad, and the last 2-3 performances have been bad, no question. however, as long as we stay in touch until Bruce has had his window, then we can truly judge and assess.

Look at the bigger picture, the belief he installed, and the run we had brought back an expectation and wasn't it a great feeling going in to games expecting a win? Maybe just maybe these last few games could be a wake up call?

Anyway. great thread, and good to see some of us old timers posting again!

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15 Dec 2016 06:55:56
I'm going to admit here I just went to look back I thought you wrote the original post Dave, fair enough. But you have to see where I'm coming from about the first post in this thread, "tried failed, tried failed, tried failed" "two best striker can't score" "no imagination no variety" - all after one loss.

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15 Dec 2016 07:08:55
But all true.
Reality is some times harsh.
Identifying failure areas is never popular.
Did not mention anything about the future.
I still hold dreams that Bruce will get it right.

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15 Dec 2016 08:06:35
I think he will oldvillan if not this season then I'd put my money on us getting promotion next season.

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15 Dec 2016 08:40:55
Next season will be harder than ever before. Teams coming down with huge amounts of money, more than ever before.

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15 Dec 2016 09:08:01
Sorry old villain but you wrote it as if we should all give up now, I understand frustration after a defeat and performance like it was but you can't just fixate on that, it's 1 in 9, we haven't seen anything like that since Preston. We beat QPR on Sunday and perform like we have the other 8 games, and all of a sudden the only "failure area" you've pointed out that still stands is the midfield - which has been apparent since the start of the season.

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15 Dec 2016 10:12:41
Andy your right but so do we with the parachute payments plus a wealthy owner behind us.

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15 Dec 2016 12:57:18
Did the club/ team / football discussions stop at some point then?
I've enjoyed the last few weeks and months on here a lot!

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14 Dec 2016 17:38:03
My views from last night
Kodjia is and only will be centre forward
Gabby is finished (although he got no service at all
Gabby has no touch what so ever (fault for the goal )
Ayew no interest won't pass won't stay in position and won't track back
Westwood should stay at home
Our midfield have no brains to play a ball forward the amount of time we last ball was unreal jendinak has a brutal pass
All gabby has is a bit of pace never did we play the ball in behind
We lose the ball so much from trying to go around players why can't we
just pass and move getting into the top 6 is proven hard
Question is have we left it to late.

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14 Dec 2016 16:53:26
How is gabby near squad he offers nothing has more cards than goals and how is Westwood in too. Although grellish ain't done too bad of late he runs at teams and often slows play down by then passing back.

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14 Dec 2016 08:18:57
Last night was terrible in fact was bad but we don't have the God given right to win every match in the Championship it's the hardest league in the world and that's a fact just saying and for people to say Bruce ain't got a idea he put out our strongest side it's the players fault not his get over it and move on!

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14 Dec 2016 08:33:09
Someone that sees sense!

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14 Dec 2016 10:27:51
fully agree.

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14 Dec 2016 11:19:28
I watched the game last night but watch it from both a player and coaches point of view as i have been both although at a lower level.
i would say if Agbonlahore is the best option we have in a central strikers role we have no chance of promotion. Elphike was lazy if he had taken 2 steps towards the goal scorer the goal would not have been scored. West wood is not good or strong enough and Jedinak needs son=m help in midfield. why is Bacuna not playing in there he was playing really well before his injury surely has to be better than Westwood. Amavi and Jedinak were for me the only 2 tha rolled up their sleeves.
WE lost 80% of the headers, we gave the ball away far too often. Need 1 quality midfielder a right back a dominant centre half and Chester needs the arm band.

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14 Dec 2016 12:49:41
If that was our strongest side, then why were Agbonlahor, Westwood and Ayew playing?
If it was our strongest side then MacCormack and Adomsah would have been in from the start, together with either Bacuna or Gardener.
IMO Agbonlahor should never play again, the is finished. And Westwood as well. He would struggle to get in Walsalls team.
HITC claim that Westwood made 5 forward passes last night. I thought it was 4.
Ayew should be left to rot in the reserves, he is sulky and lazy. Doesn't care one bit about our famous old club.
Well I do. And would be very happy to see the remaining bad apples from last season GONE.

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14 Dec 2016 17:04:29
Not having a go at Bruce but why is Gabby in the team if gabby gets more than 5 goals this season i will eat a birmingham city hat and put the video on face book.

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14 Dec 2016 08:07:30
Last night was a terrible performance but put it into perspective, 1 bad performance where we only lost 1-0 in 9 games? We had 38 last season! Some of the things being said this morning on twitter, Facebook, here ect is laughable! Bruce put out a team to win a game and they was flat, no one did well and we lost. Now all of a sudden Bruce looks lost, Adomahs a one trick pony and we should recall Gil? It was a bad day at the office, Bruce did all he could to breath some energy and life into the team shouting his mouth off on the line and making subs but it didn't work. After the game he said all the right things and said he isn't standing for it, what else can we ask for? Onto the next one!

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14 Dec 2016 07:31:59
Absolute garbage!
Failure of style, unable to adapt.
Bruce looked lost.
Why can't we get the ball into the box early?

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13 Dec 2016 22:41:56
That is our worst game since Preston, no energy, no creativity and nobody able to put two passes together . You could have had Messi up front, it wouldent have made any difference . Nobody with the ability to look up and make a pass, we where to far apart, Sorry Brucie but you will never convince me, that Hepburn Murphy isn't better than Flabby . Got to get them up and at it for Sunday Onwards and Upwards Villaforever.

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13 Dec 2016 22:50:03
I do agree with you mate but I don't think the Gabby argument applies to this one (RHM is miles better) because as you said you could put Messi up front and he wouldn't of done anything, Gabby put himself about but you've got him uptop all he has is pace, was there one ball on the deck into the channel? Nope. Terrible performance as you said, Bruce has already laid into them saying he's making changes and not accepting it so hopefully better against QPR.

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13 Dec 2016 22:15:43
Anyone who sees anything positive in the last two away games is deluded. We can't keep the ball or string three passes together. Both Norwich and Leeds are two very average sides and that about sums up where we are. 20 million worth of talentless players, it's no good kidding ourselves we ain't going nowhere soon!

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13 Dec 2016 22:51:59
You are right about tonight but last two lines are an over reaction because of what you've just watched, 1 bad performance in 9, and the talent was obviously there when we was winning, don't forget these things because tonight was frustrating. The performance was not good enough and I trust Bruce will sort it.

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13 Dec 2016 23:01:11
We were dreadful and perhaps the Bruce Bounce has flattened? Saturday was saved by Jack but no creative saviour tonight. We were lacklustre and never looked like we could string a move together. Never looked like winning and January can't come quick enough. However not sure what magic ingredient will activate this group of seemingly talented players i. e. Ayew, Grealish, Guested, etc VTID.

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14 Dec 2016 08:31:53
Most people can't kick it as far as gabbys first touch. Terrible. Lack of creativity in the midfield. Think Bruce set up to contain for 70 minutes then it was too late. Perhaps should have had a go at them from the off. Elphick is a league 1 defender. Positives. jedinak was decent, amavi is getting better and Chester is by far our best defender.

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13 Dec 2016 21:42:03
Ayew absolutely terrible, grealish and kodja anonymous, Gabby rubbish. The midfield is poor but today the defence were at fault for their goal, backed off and backed off and the keeper was way too far off his line. Then the attack was so poor, how much did they cost? Kodja had a good run of form but he was useless today as he was at Wigan, grealish looked like he didn't know what he was doing, Gabby showed effort but no quality, and ayew? Leave him at AFCON should have took the money for him and ran in the summer! Poor poor performance today, 1 shot on target and that came in the 93rd minute, Bruce needs to sort this out!

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13 Dec 2016 21:50:36
Blimey you’ve said all that in your analysis, and all I wanted to do was change 2 players.
I am in a room with six other guys and we all agreed, it ain`t rocket science, football is a simple game, meaning some simple changes and you can accommodate most players if they have talent.

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13 Dec 2016 22:16:15
Yes you can say that the defenders backed off for the goal. But where were the deep midfielders to stop runners.? I feel sorry for Jedinak he is our only midfielder.
The forward line did not have one single chance provided for them. That's why they were so poor.
Our midfield is a black hole. And if SB can't see it and rectify it in January then we can kiss goodbye to the top six.
We need 2 or even 3 top quality midfielders. God I'm so annoyed.

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13 Dec 2016 22:23:11
The England team has talent no doubt, don't achieve anything because they try to accommodate players instead of just playing players in their position. Don't know how that applies but just saying mate quality doesn't work if it's not in its right place. We were shocking today, some of the players need to seriously have a look at themselves because no one had a good performance today, we lacked any game plan and were second to everything. And if your referring to you saying take off Westwood and ayew and bring adomah and McCormack, when it was 0-0, sorry Dave but they cut through us with two midfielders, it would of been like a chainsaw through butter playing Jedinak as a lone midfielder and turned into a rout. The squad is so unbalanced it's unreal we have 1 winger 1 decent centre mid 5 strikers 2 centre backs, January can't come sooner Bruce needs to put his stamp on this team.

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13 Dec 2016 22:53:49
Andy your right about midfielders creating chances but the forward line has to be able to help themselves, they had the ball in the final third so many times and kodja and ayew just lost it running into bodies. They have to be able to hold it up, do the basics, and tonight none of them did.

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13 Dec 2016 22:55:42
And Andy watch the goal back, the midfielders are in position, the ball falls to their man by a deflection. The defence can't stand 10 yards off him.

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13 Dec 2016 21:41:28
What a load of rubbish tonight!

Gabby offers nothing, Ayew is so frustrating and Westwood poor, what has tisbola done to not even get a game ahead of him?

There is nothing being created from midfield at all, seems like we are slowly going backwards

Hopefully Bruce has a damn good transfer plan to get us sparking and looking a threat.

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13 Dec 2016 21:41:26
DIRE. SHOCKING. WORRYING.
And that's just the midfield.

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13 Dec 2016
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13 Dec 2016 17:02:22
Norwich 0 vs 2 Aston Villa i have got to get at least one result wright this season.

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13 Dec 2016 13:41:50
anyone else think we are not looking at the talent within the club? all these names being thrown around i'd rather see the young lads given a go, we've spent our money now let's play with the cards we have.

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13 Dec 2016 16:15:02
Yep George I agree to a point.
Sellars, Hepburn-Murphy, Green should be getting minutes under their belts for sure.
But I still think we need to buy 2 - 3 real good quality midfielders to give us that bite and cutting edge.
Gardner, and westwood not good enough consistently.
Hourihane, McCarthy and Will Hughes would be great.

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12 Dec 2016 23:42:37
not say i was bored or anything but went through all the prem teams and looked at the games players are getting and there are a lot of good players we should be looking at buying/ loaning, don't know if they are injured

arsenal -debuchy holding jenkinson and ospina

Bournemouth- afobe, federici, gradel,

palace-campbell, hennessey, mutch, sako,

im not going to list every player but we have a great bunch and the means to sign who in reason we wont.

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13 Dec 2016 07:45:08
That's a good list but based on what Villa need right now.
Ospina (Loan), Jenkinson (Buy/ Loan), Gradel (Already have grealish/ McCormak/ Ayew for that position. #10).

A defensive mid, Brady, a striker on Loan and we will be good to go.

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13 Dec 2016 08:57:41
as i say that's just the first 3 in prem (burnley have nought worth looking at) .

andy king or matty james from leicester for cm,

long from southampton or rhodes from middlesboro for the striker.

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13 Dec 2016 13:10:57
I'd say we need a goal keeper, right back, centre mid, left winger, striker. If the owner is serious about his desire then, Johnstone/ Ospina (loan), jenkinson, McCarthy, Brady and Jordan Rhodes will put us in a very good position to chase down Brighton!

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12 Dec 2016 22:58:30
Robbie Brady anyone? Sounds good to me!

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13 Dec 2016 00:01:51
wouldnt say no but are we a better team than norwich at the moment? other than money what is the main draw for him?

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13 Dec 2016 00:35:42
Money is a huge factor. Everything about our club is bigger and better than Norwich. If our team is not better than Norwich at the moment, then wait until the end of January.
It will be then.

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13 Dec 2016 06:56:34
Would absolutely love him if this is true mate, we was linked in the summer but didn't happen, proper winger for the left side gets forward and back, and can beat the first man on corners!

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12 Dec 2016 22:38:24
Watching ayews last few performances I'm starting to think he's no better than weimann was, and atleast weimann ran his arse off. Ayew just seems to be so out of form recently, doesn't even beat players and then lose the ball like he was at the start of the season, he just loses the ball now! Hope he proves me wrong and has a stormer against Norwich!

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12 Dec 2016 23:06:24
He's certainly a frustrating player. Quite capable of being one of the Championships best players, his body language suggests he'd much rather be elsewhere. I'd let him go and replace him with someone who wants to be a real team player.

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12 Dec 2016 23:09:19
Infuriating player, has so much promise but isn't hitting the right heights. At times I have been really impressed with his chasing down and dispossessing opposition players. Unfortunately seems to play in his own bubble too much and not doing much to assist and has a greedy streak which would be fine if he scored more. Perhaps having a poor spell because focussing on possible January offers as he was early season?

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12 Dec 2016 23:36:38
Agree Nick. What do good players do If they lose possession? Puff and blow, and stroll back towards the halfway line?

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12 Dec 2016 21:45:26
Just a bit of fun if you were giving 15 million to spend in the next window who would you add to our squad.

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12 Dec 2016 22:15:04
Hi Villamick.
15 mil should just about buy Lionel Messi`s backside, help us crack a few defences.

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12 Dec 2016 23:31:59
15 mill in the current market? that's one player at best, but saying that there are a handful players i would like to see even if just loans,

arsenal alone i would ask about debuchy, holding, jenkinson and ospina.

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12 Dec 2016 14:36:42
The baggies want delph in January, just when you thought your respect for a bloke couldn't get any lower🙈 I thought he had retired to be honest.

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12 Dec 2016 13:57:05
After Jan
Gollini
Jenkinson baker Chester Amavi
Adomah Jedinak McCarthy grealish
Kodja McCormack

With ayew gustede Gardner bacuna elphic hutton Johnstone on the bench that surely end up minimum of play offs.

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12 Dec 2016 23:25:08
ok team but think i would rather get a keeper with a better head on his shoulders this kid needs time to learn.

same i think could be said about a cb to pair chester, bakers good but still lacking in areas.

if by mccarthy you mean the lad at everton its going to take a lot of hard wrok and sweet talking by bruce to get him to come to villa if the likes of west brom are sniffing too.

would really like to get rhodes or rashford (sure if he's offered out he's going to a prem team) in on loan in jan, rodriquz of southampton would be a good call to.

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11 Dec 2016 22:32:10
Good to see Ayew, Gestede, Kodjia at the soup kitchen on Friday night.

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11 Dec 2016 23:14:56
Did they look after you well?

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12 Dec 2016 08:16:45
Hahaha flacks is back with a vengeance.

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12 Dec 2016 12:48:07
Yes they did signed autographs with photos.

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12 Dec 2016 14:49:59
Haha touché!

On serious note, I think it was great what they did, and if regarding villa we might not always be very proud of things on the pitch, but off it, with charity work especially, we should be immensely proud our club.

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11 Dec 2016 21:37:02
We still need a commanding centre back, a dominator. Someone to organise the back line.
We need a midfield maestro to play balls through for the forwards to run onto, it seems as if everything has to come from the wings.
There is a lack of imagination, we are predictable. Variation in play.
It is no good having Kodija, McCormack etc up front if they don't get the ball where they can score.
How many players do we have out on loan? Could any of them do a job for us?
I know Gil is a lightweight but so is Silva. Could he create a spark?
If we could get 4 pts from the next 2 games we should be in the top 6. 6 pts and a cert for the top 6.
Brighton and NUFC were drawn games and they are streaking away at the top and I doubt that we can catch them, so no more gifts to the opposition.
Oh, forgot. A reliable keeper. Golding may be the future but it's the present that is important.

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11 Dec 2016 20:45:03
just looked on wikipidia and noticed chester is listed as the captain, i know elphicks been missing a lot but has bruce stripped him of the armband completely?

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11 Dec 2016 19:05:41
Ok boys here's a question : If the Doctor said to you that you had to sell 5 players, who would they be?
Mine would be Gestede Agbonlahor Richards Westwood and Ayew.

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11 Dec 2016 20:41:04
depend why i'm selling? is it because i'm allowed to replace them with whoever i wanted? if so agbonlahor, kozak, richards, hutton, bunn, maybe even bacuna. might even go as far as sanchez and veretout.

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11 Dec 2016 21:03:11
Mine would be Gabby, Westwood, bunn, Kodak and cissoko. Then I'd sign a covering left back, a first team right back, a top class centre mid, Robbie Brady and Jordan rhodes on loan.

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11 Dec 2016 22:28:58
I would sell Richards, Gabby, Kozak, Cissokho.

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12 Dec 2016 12:05:50
Sell: Kozak, Gabby, Cissokho, bunn and Richards.
Buy: Carl Jenkinson, a CM, a back up LB (already had bennet) and Rhodes Loan.

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11 Dec 2016 12:37:05
Just out of curiosity, can anyone pick a game so far where the ref has been any better than sub par/ average at best?

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11 Dec 2016 17:10:46
Howard Webb 2002 World Cup final!

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11 Dec 2016 17:50:36
Hahahaha I meant this season unfortunately. The fact that the refs we have are judged as not as good as the prem refs says it all, every game descends into pointless fouls because players get frustrated at the ref not controlling the game and they start taking it out on each other.

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11 Dec 2016 04:26:56
Read in one of the papers that McCarthy, Tom Cleverley, Phil Jagielka, Aaron Lennon, Gerard Deulofeu are all down the firing line.
Now who would you want to take for villa?
I would take McCarthy/ Cleverley based on the fact that Villa need CM.
Deulofeu will also be good winger but we have plenty of options to choose from already.

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11 Dec 2016 10:10:21
Don't think any of them other than jagielka and maybe Lennon would even be a possibility mate, just because there would be a few prem teams after them! I'd take jagielka, would be solid at this level and better than elphic. However elphic was decent yesterday, had one little mishap where Gollini just wasn't coming out to collect but he did the right thing and leathered it away!

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11 Dec 2016 11:36:22
Just read it's us Sunderland and Celtic interested in McCarthy, would be a quality signing but think we are last on the list. Celtic champions league, Sunderland premier league and then us, and it wouldn't surprise me if Roy Keane was in his ear aswell slating us.

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11 Dec 2016 13:51:41
Sunderland will soon be where Villa is rightnow. Unless they win back to back 3-4 games. He woudn't want go into that mess. If Villa shows improvement and climb up the table then he can be attracted. Not sure about Celtic though.
Would take Cleverly as well. He was realy good under Sherwood last few weeks. If he can show that form at this level he will be huge improvement to the current squad plus he woudnt cost too much I'm sure.

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11 Dec 2016 15:10:03
To be honest mate he shouldn't want to go to Sunderland but if it came to it he would, money talks and the premier league is still a huge pull no matter the situation. And I don't think cleverly would be welcomed back, claimed he was going to sign for us and he was loving it just to get his starting place in the final then sodded off, good player but he really did us over when he was here before.

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11 Dec 2016 17:12:46
I personally wouldn't touch cleverly with kingvilla's

No effort, commitment or balls, until a Wembley place was at stake, then didn't turn up for the final!

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11 Dec 2016 17:51:49
Exactly my point, he was immense in the games leading up to the final, vs West Ham etc. Did interviews almost saying his staying just for a start in the final.

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11 Dec 2016 18:36:11
Good point.!

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10 Dec 2016 21:53:44
Was it me or did Ross McCormack look a bit porky?

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11 Dec 2016 01:19:50
Always does mate don't read anything in to it, people said this start of the season and Fulham and Leeds fans both said he's always been like it so doesn't really matter, shame we didn't create anything for him today.

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10 Dec 2016 19:10:19
Not so sure my Leicester bet is going to come off!
Won't be buying beer on Boxing Day boys!

😔😡.

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10 Dec 2016 19:35:45
Oh no flackie, does that mean we gota buy you 1 now?

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10 Dec 2016 19:06:32
Hard fought win today
Patience was needed against 11 players behind the ball
Only one gripe
AYEW
when the African nations cup is on
Can we leave him there.

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10 Dec 2016 19:14:19
Siht game, great goal, clean sheet, 3 points!



Silly as it sounds! That might be all we needed!
Played well so many games, with out a win. play poorly and win, must ooze you with confidence!

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10 Dec 2016
The real time live chat page is open for today's Aston Villa match at the below link for you to talk to each other during the match
Aston Villa Live Chat page

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10 Dec 2016 14:22:19
Hey EDs,

What was the result of Live chat during Aston Villa matches?
Are you guys going to start it for this page as well?
I see here evryone is having a fresh start. Why not give it a chance?

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{Ed033's Note - The Aston Villa real time live chat page is now open Aston Villa Live Chat page.

10 Dec 2016 14:44:27
Thanks Ed033. Cheers.!

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10 Dec 2016 09:55:07
Match day! Saw someone put out a team earlier an think we would smash them with this:
Gollini
Hutton Chester elphic Amavi
Adomah Jedinak tish grealish
McCormack kodja

Grealish isn't a winger but he has shown he can play as one, this would surely beat them today.

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10 Dec 2016 10:07:41
That's a great team!
I think gabby will play instead of Ross though!

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10 Dec 2016 11:00:33
If he does I can only imagine it's because ROSS has just come back from injury, I think he needs game time.

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10 Dec 2016 13:27:20
I read somewhere that gabby is injured. If that's true, then Villa has a chance. SB should play Green/ Ayew/ RHM and see if it's working.

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10 Dec 2016 14:26:00
Is it me or on paper are we not just the best team in the league. few in, in January and we'll be fine. Bruce said today no more mistakes or you're out. he's fed up of it so gollini westwood watch out.

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10 Dec 2016 15:05:40
No KIA, it's not only you. One RB, one CM, one more CB, a backup Goakeeper. Gollini is doing just fine and he has save so many chances and in coming days he will be great. If we replace RB and CB deffence will improve. With baker will leak less goals.

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10 Dec 2016 15:15:03
*He has saved (correction) so many chances.

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11 Dec 2016 01:21:31
Regardless how much we like the idea or not surely best on paper is newcastle. But we must be second best.

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09 Dec 2016 18:08:56
Ok. hello one and all!

I just want to throw down an olive branch, wave a white flag, whatever!
This site used to be jovial, sarcastic, heated (but not personal) and informative. now it's like a ghost town most the day! If the eds (Jesus) could do animation I bet a tumbleweed would roll over the screen! .

Now this is because of a few reasons from what I can see, none that need addressing in this post, other than to say, certain people, myself included, need to engage brain, before the keyboard warrior jumps out from their fingers!

We all have a different opinion, doesn't mean your right, I'm right (although normally I am! ) it's an opinion! We are all allowed to have, and give! If we didn't, it's boring!
If you give an opinion, it's fair game for someone to respond, question and debate.

If you can't take criticism and or discussion about your opinion, don't give it! To then argue, insult belittle someone for responding is crazy, and offensive.

This site used to be like chatting with mates, even the eds, (yes even ed07) got involved, I loved coming on and having the psis taken, and also taking it! I rarely come on now, never post, and if I do, I'm ready for barrage, and battle. so my heckles are up!

This needs to stop!

We should ALL be united, we all want the same thing, whether we go once a year, never or every week. We are all fans/ supporting/ believers, whether you live in brum, or Timbuktu we are the same.

I'm drawing a line in the sand, a new start for us all. and I pray we all come together, and the old and new members come back and stay.

Sink or swim we are Aston Villa.
So we got relegated? Let's move on!

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09 Dec 2016 19:24:33
Flackie i agree a new year is coming Iam sorry if i have offended anybody I am very opinionated and at times I'm an old fool set in my ways. So let's all forgive and forget and roar our lions home!

Eds i also apologise to you let's get this forum kicking again! I've also asked Santa for a dictionary lol UTV I hope they post this as like Flackie i mean it we are all Aston Villa Come on you lions!

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{Ed033's Note - Apology accepted captain Needa :)

09 Dec 2016 19:25:32
Good post flackie.

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09 Dec 2016 20:16:29
Exactly what I've been saying for weeks, mainly in defence of Mr. SKIA who some people believe to be the cause of the unrest.
So yes, good post Flackie. let's move forward! UTV VTID.

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09 Dec 2016 23:33:25
Thanks peeps! Onwards and upwards!

So. anyone else happy Leicester are bumping down to earth nicely?!
Had a cheeky £5 start of season, (150-1) bottom at Christmas!
Nothing would make me happier than seeing mr. know. it. all buy that beer he promises, but this would be close!

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10 Dec 2016 09:09:42
lol yeah tell you what boxing day you can buy us a beer with your winnings. 150 to 1 so if you get a beer 4 us that's me, andy, mendex, kingvilla, class82 lol. leicester are no longer hungry so you have a chance mate. UTV.

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10 Dec 2016 10:40:31
Tell you what! If that's what happens I will!

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10 Dec 2016 11:09:04
There is no point in giving my opinion or engaging in discussion Flackie because its written off before its even been read by some for arbitrary bull**** reasons. So I don't.

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10 Dec 2016 12:40:14
That's what we all need to move on from Andy!
Fresh start for us all.

I like your opinions, I (as you know! ) don't always agree. but a discussion has two or more sides!
For to long people have been alienated, ostracised and belittled. we are better than that!

The line has been drawn mate.
Hopefully we have all learnt a lesson and move forward.

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10 Dec 2016 17:10:53
I haven't got an issue with you Flackie, never had, and I appreciate the sentiment of your original post. But like you say I feel alienated, ostracised and belittled by the extremely two faced KIA who only a few days ago was still ranting on about the same old match attendance issue. He says he's sorry if he's offended people but he hasn't offended me, he's simply forced me out by rendering any point of discussion moot before its even begun. Frankly he's welcome to his empty forum where he is the sole arbiter with his holier than thou attitude.

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10 Dec 2016 17:24:29
I know what your saying mate. and I never though we had a problem!

All I'm saying is that we can move on from that, was a stupid daft comment, that could of galvanised us, yet divided us.

We as a whole are better that that! Surely?

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10 Dec 2016 18:43:24
Its supposed to be fun - its not fun with KIA. When he is constantly coming out with two faced drivel like:

'Flackie i agree a new year is coming Iam sorry if i have offended anybody I am very opinionated and at times I'm an old fool set in my ways. So let's ALL FORGIVE AND FORGET and roar our lions home!

Eds i also apologise to you let's GET THIS FORUM KICKING AGAIN. I've also asked Santa for a dictionary lol UTV I hope they post this as like Flackie i mean it WE ARE ALL ASTON VILLA Come on you lions! '

When just a few days ago:

'I haven't bullied anybody i just have differnt views I AM RIGHT look at the league! Tell you what i won't post then you can go back to people saying we are going to win the league whos never been to watch villa play before AT LEAST I GO TO EVERY GAME SOME OF THESE WATCH 5 SECONDS ON CHANNEL 5 AND THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL.

The guy doesn't want discussion and debate with fellow fans, he wants an echo chamber and that's exactly what he has created.

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10 Dec 2016 19:35:11
Agree 1 million percent Andy i'm a believer in people getting 2nd chances but he has had chance after chance after chance and that's why I will not reply to his posts they are dribble and unmeaningful and belittling it's good too see Flacks post again and it's also good too see you post too Andy.

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10 Dec 2016 20:55:40
Thanks Villadaz but don't get used to it - I don't engage with bigots so as long as he is here I am keeping silent on all football matters. I have got no problem if people post controversial ideas or if people don't agree with mine, because the arguments and ideas should stand on their own merit and not on the 'credentials' of the poster.

Its meant to be a bit of fun between fellow fans but KIA has made it a hierarchy with himself firmly on top and its turning this site into an echo chamber reverberating to the sound of his bull****.

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10 Dec 2016 22:33:51
Fair comment guys, and if I'm honest, I don't disagree with either of you. I just want this place back to what it was, I didn't make it, you guys don't make it, we all did.

I personally don't hold any malice, and have said my piece. I wish we could all move forward, I'm not saying forget, just to keep certain points and thoughts in a box for another time!?

I miss wisdoms wit, Mendex and his philosophy, kingvillas bullsiht, etc etc
We all added something, and as daft as it sounds, I mean this, it was like chatting with mates! I miss that!
If your in a boozer, and there is a loud yob in the corner, you can leave, ask him to calm down, ignore him, (and he will pass/ move on) or stand toe to toe!
There is only one of these that means only the yob missed out!
I keep saying this! We are better than that!

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11 Dec 2016 08:32:51
I miss it too Flackie. But to borrow from your analogy he's not so much the loud yob in the corner as the bigoted landlord who only let's the right sort in. Whilst I have made a conscious decision to not post while KIA is spouting his rhetoric, I wouldn't be posting as often anyway because real life gets in the way sometimes and you do need a level of information to formulate certain opinions. whilst it may not seem like it all the time I try not to post completely uniformed nonsense :) The fact that we are in the championship makes it harder to follow from the armchair as not all the games are televised and the highlights are more limited. I don't have Sky sports, BT sports etc that you need to get the games so I watch streams when I can, which due to recent family circumstances monopolising my weekends is few and far between.

So I do the best I can with the resources I have and coming here should be a great way to keep up with all things Villa like it used to be. But KIA has made it so I can no longer be involved at all because of his very divisive attitude on who should be allowed to voice their opinions - and let's just get this straight, its not just a throw away comment he made once, this is a position he takes and defends over and over again. He hasn't even once responded to any comment I have posted trying to address this issue because he is not interested in debate, he wants his little tiny invitation only echo chamber for like minded people and he is too much of a coward to acknowledge what he is doing to this forum.

So by combination of belittling people like and me, Villadaz and countless others who can't go to the games and sapping the fun out of it for for the rest he has changed the nature of this forum. Ultimately, who is going to continue frequenting the pub with the equivalent of an EDL rally going on every time you want to drop in for a pint with a few mates?

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11 Dec 2016 09:39:42
It's a great point mate.
I just know we are better united than divided. To allow one person ruin it would be criminal.

I wish I had the words to convince your self and others to return.

With a bit of luck, the pub may be owned by a brewery! And perhaps if the takings drop, they may kick him out, or risk the pub closing!

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{Ed001's Note - I have deleted his accounts many times and blocked him, it is other editors that keep giving him a second chance. It is his final chance or all other editors will be instructed to delete his posts and his account on sight.}

11 Dec 2016 10:06:07
It's a shame ed (Jesus! ) that it has to be like that.

Hopefully now a line has been drawn we can all move forward!?

I just know that this site used to be buzzing, and it's now bleak, you guys must see it more than we do?

It amazes me that we have allowed one poster affect us this way!

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{Ed001's Note - I have been trying, unfortunately the editors are looking after all the sites, so most only dip in and out on sites that are not for their team, to cover when I am not about. So they don't really see what is happening unless it is on their main site. It is why we always try to get an editor for each site when it gets busy enough, so they can keep a closer eye on things and spot problems like this.}

11 Dec 2016 10:45:25
In a way its a shame because I really hate the concept of censorship, but being as he is unlikely to admit he is wrong and not just spout meaningless apologies for offending us easily offended only to bring the same things up a week later, I see no other solution.

Maybe once the January window is open the number of posts and posters will increase and I might tentatively consider getting more actively involved again, especially if there are some threads which aren't dominated by KIA.

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{Ed001's Note - sadly censorship is the only way to stop sites devolving into twatter like abuse, racism and bullying constantly.}

11 Dec 2016 13:18:31
I know you are in an awkward position ed, to be fair you all are, we appreciate it's almost an impossible job.
Without blowing smoke up your arse, thank you!
If we all pull together, we will get it back to what it was! Just a shame to lose anyone on the way. Even the fore mentioned. Just perhaps some rules or guidelines? If emailed to everyone if poss, then no one can say they don't know! Use a 3 strike rule, when you break the rules
1) a warning
2) a ban, maybe a week
3) total ban

Just trying to come to a solution that gives everyone a chance!

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{Ed001's Note - I have put a note up on the editor's widget to inform people about him and a suggestion I hope will be implemented to stop future abuses.}

11 Dec 2016 15:26:13
Fair play!
Any way happy birthday ed! (Jesus! )

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08 Dec 2016 22:31:13
Aston Villa 2 v 0 Wigan.

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09 Dec 2016 21:50:02
Good post flackie nice 1.

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10 Dec 2016 08:57:15
Thanks mate.

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08 Dec 2016 09:21:37
So what do we think the starting line up will be for Wigan? IMO we have to start on the front foot:
Gollini (made a mistake but a bad form Gollini is still better than Bunn)
Hutton (best we've got ATM and wasn't one of the poor ones from leeds)
Baker (praying he is fit! If not elphic is al we've got)
Chester
Amavi
jedinak
Gardner (id have him over Westwood just because I think he offers more of a goal threat)
Grealish (scare them, run at them, unlocks defences)
adomah (him and Hutton look a good combination when they click)
Kodja (please play him down the middle! )
Ayew (back in down the left to cause problems with grealish and Amavi)

Remembering we have Norwich on Tuesday where no doubt we will pack the midfield and grealish will probably come out for that one, I think this team will take Wigan apart and send us into the Norwich game on a high. It's about time we got abit arrogant, we are Villa, we have the better squad and the players should think right let's show these the difference!

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08 Dec 2016 09:47:46
That would be my team too Chris. Although I would like to possibly see Tshibola given 45 mins and Jedinak given a rest for Tuesday.

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08 Dec 2016 14:33:51
Be good to see Tshibola!

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08 Dec 2016 20:33:45
Thing is ayew isn't clinical enough to be a striker unfortunately! And mate I like the team and could see McCormack work well up top in that aswell however Bunn in goal? May aswell start the game with 2 goals down, he really is a nightmare, about as useful as a glass hammer!

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08 Dec 2016 23:55:09
Yeah Bunn is not good enough. Neither is Gollini, yet. I do feel that he will be a top quality keeper in the years to come, he's learning fast . But for now I would sign a reliable experienced keeper to assist him and replace him from time to time.

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09 Dec 2016 00:01:17
Agree also about Ayew . To me he's a quality player with good close control whilst running at defences. But does he have that killer pass or finish?
MacCormack on the other hand is a natural finisher who should NOT be allowed to leave. With 2 new quality midfielders behind him, creating good quality chances, he could still be our top scorer this season.

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09 Dec 2016 08:32:55
Problem is if you play two up top your going to get over run in midfield, Fulham were top scorers last year with dembele and mccormack up top, but they were also on edge of the worst defenses because they sacrificed the middle man to get the two up top, its a shame because I think McCormack and kodja up top together would score so many goals!

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09 Dec 2016 08:58:33
What has happened to Tshibola. I though he looked good. Perhaps better than Gardner.

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09 Dec 2016 09:19:05
IMO 2 quality midfielders, in a 442 set up, wouldn't get overrun Chris.

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09 Dec 2016 12:33:14
Thing is Andy you look at all the teams that have gone up easily i. e. Burnley bournemouth they all pack the midfield, no matter how good the 2 for us are, 3 always beats 2 unfortunately. That's just my opinion tho I would love to see a 442 with solid wingers, at the moment we would need a new middle man because I think Jedinak is good enough to be the other centre mid and then a proper left mid, grealish is wasted out there and isn't really a winger, Robbie Brady would be ideal! Then adomah on the right, bruce has said today he's got two deals ready for Jan so hopefully one is a centre mid.

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07 Dec 2016 21:31:25
All this talk about mccormack going is crazy he hasn't got a fair Crack yet always been played out of position and getting 10-15 here and there mccormack would have scored every chance we had against leeds o have no doubts about it
I think kozak and rudy should go they offer nothing to us at the moment yeah I know kozak is only getting back from injury
We need 1-2 central mids Westwood just don't have it squad player same with Gardner been saying it for awhile now jendinak needs help in there Westwood and gardnervous are light weights
Amavi and hutton need to be challenged for there positions as well amavi gets caught a lot ball watching and very pron to the odd mistake would better playing left wing hutton not bad at defending but has no final ball a bit of competition to push them
All this talk about bad business done during the summer is stupid kodjia Chester have been a success jendinak to a certain extent aswell don't get me wrong I'm happy with the squad and how things are going the last couple of weeks and if we don't go up this season it's not the end of the world it gives us a chance to establish a way of playing and find a new identity we have nearly a new squad new owners and a damn good manager that will get us out of this league (sorry for the essay)

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07 Dec 2016 22:17:20
They tried Amavi at left wing and it didn't work, he's a very good left back because he's best when he can see everything in front of him. Don't think he needs to be pushed for his place as he seems to be more than motivated every week, he's just come back from a year out and is already since Bruce come back in proving himself to be the best left back in the league, hence why theirs a new rumour every day of this club and that club wanting him. As for Hutton he just needs replacing and being then use him to push the new lad for the position, his passion and determination is brilliant he just isn't that good anymore.

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09 Dec 2016 21:53:16
Gollini

Hutton
Chester
Baker
Amavi

Tish
Jed

Grealish
McCormack
Ayew

Kodjia.

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07 Dec 2016 13:27:12
I just want to make a comment about the Newcastle Utd game. i am in the away scheme so will go but how fair is it that sky have all the control. who makes these decisions to put the game on a monday night? Its not fair on fans traveling 4 hours on a monday they know people have work. its a disgrace, sky are ruining football! Sorry to be negative but what are peoples thoughts on this?

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07 Dec 2016 17:50:01
I totally agree. I'm in the same boat as you. Up at 5 the next morning its crazy . Sky don't give a monkeys .

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07 Dec 2016 19:27:52
If more people were to tell Sky to get stuffed they would have to reconsider what they do and the prices.
The more popular your club the more you have to suffer.
The chance of getting them to rearrange their schedule is unlikely. Let's return to 3pm on Saturdays.
Even the transfer market is affected by Sky, without the input cash fees would be much less and players wage demands would have to be less.
I blew sky out some time back and bt sport and I am £90 a month better off.
They tried to get me to take out an agreement to reduce my fee for 3 months by 50% then called with a better offer. I said no and have not missed Sky.

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{Ed007's Note - I ditched Sly Sports at the end of season 14/15. I've got the basic Virgin package, that includes BT Sports btw, I bought an android box and installed KODI on it and Bob's your mum's brother, all the sport and movies you can shake a stick at.}

07 Dec 2016 20:28:42
I love to watch Test cricket its all gone to Sky. I love to watch golf live its all gone to Sky. How long before Wimbledon is gobbled up by them too?
Well I have never had Sky and I never will. 2 reasons for this:
I won't line Murdoch's pockets and I hate the constant and massively irritating adverts.

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06 Dec 2016 12:16:36
Squabbling aside, The Birmingham 'Lies-R-US' Mail speculates that Brucey might kick McCormack into touch in the January window. I'd be disappointed if that were the case as I'm not sure he's been given a fair crack of the whip thus far. Thoughts?

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06 Dec 2016 12:44:55
Agree 100%, give him a run in his right position and then judge him.

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06 Dec 2016 12:46:53
I agree. He's quality and should be kept and used properly.

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06 Dec 2016 17:40:16
He will be kept because his record and price tag speak for themselves the BM print a heck of a lot of tosh as you said and given the fact we may be losing a couple to the acon i can't see brucey getting rid of the possibility of goals in ross mac he dosent need to raise dosh or trim the wages either so i can't see him leaving. Should let kozak go tho its a shame for the lad.

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06 Dec 2016 08:13:50
Question:How can 1 person ruin a fantastic forum it's a crying shame how other posters feel the need not to post anymore I'm all up for debate and I accept people opinions and views but this is going beyond a joke now moaning for the sake of it not only alienates you but makes you look quite stupid. I'm not a bully far from it but come on how many times does this person feel the need to post dribble then says he's going too leave because of posters going against his truly rubbish opinions.

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06 Dec 2016 09:01:29
It's boring now a couple of months ago a post would get 5/ 6 replies all with different opinions all explained and people would see things from other points of view, and you could have a debate which wouldn't end in one person saying no sorry I'm leaving your wrong because you haven't been to ever game since you came out the womb.

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06 Dec 2016 10:26:46
Shouldnt these two points go in not football related lol? Look you can't always be positive especially when such a huge club is 15th in the championship having spent a fortune. I don't think I ruin the forum at all i call it how i see it. I only asked about the fa cup draw yesterday and as usual Flackie started being funny. As for people posting i bet if we asked the edds Aston Villa fans are probably one of the most frequent posters!

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{Ed001's Note - actually it is one of the quietest forums. As for Flackie being funny, isn't that what banter is about? Not his fault that you have no sense of humour and ruin any attempt for people to be lighthearted and have a laugh with your bitter rants.}

06 Dec 2016 10:55:12
Last season we was relegated bottom we was awful this season we are 15th in the championship yes iam bitter about 1 of the biggest clubs in football being in the position we are in. What would you like me to say that we are doing brilliant when we are not? As for flackie and other users if they don't agree with me look at the league. If you like do a poll should i stop posting if you get 100 per cent i will stop but i belive not every1 wants me to stop!

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{Ed001's Note - no I just wish you would stop dragging everything down and stop going on about it. You were banned once for bullying everyone, it is going to happen again if you carry on, regardless of any vote.}

06 Dec 2016 11:10:13
I haven't bullied anybody i just have differnt views iam right look at the league! Tell you what i won't post then you can go back to people saying we are going to win the league whos never been to watch villa play before at least i go to every game some of these watch 5 seconds on channel 5 and think they know it all.

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{Ed001's Note - there you go again. Please do us all a favour and stop posting then. There is no place here for someone who feels they are superior to everyone else simply because they are lucky enough to be able to go to the games.}

06 Dec 2016 11:31:54
Just because u go to every game doesn't mean u know what your talking about. A lot of people who know anything about the game can't make it to villa park every saturday as they are either playing or coaching football at local levels. Have you ever played the game yourself? Or are you someone who has nothing else to do so u go to villa park and boo your own?

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06 Dec 2016 11:52:29
I've had several bouts of disagreements with Mr. SKIA over the last few months, in addition to agreeing with him on several too.
I've never considered him to be a bully ; just passionate, opinionated, and a bit lacking in grammatical expression.
If I feel he's talking rubbish, I tell him. And vice versa.

He doesn't upset me at all . I actually quite enjoy his outspoken ways. That type of person gives it and takes it and then comes back for more. Its good fun IMO.
What I don't enjoy are those that feel they have the definitive view. And yes there are 1 or 2 on here that fall into that category.
Don't take yourself so seriously. Just give it and take it.
That's Banter.

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06 Dec 2016 12:12:20
And just for the record I'd be sad to see him go.
Villadaz has called his opinions 'dribble' and ' rubbish '. And yet nobody says a word. Why? Its all a part of the Banter . If Mr. SKIA had said this there would be half dozen dummies by respective prams.
One person ruining this site? I don't think so. Its great.

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06 Dec 2016 12:14:22
See you at QPR Mr SKIA. You buy me that pint and ill give you your Xmas prezzie. A copy of Rogets Thesaurus.

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06 Dec 2016 12:47:33
Hahahahaha now now children.

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06 Dec 2016 15:33:11
Thanks for your support andy.

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06 Dec 2016 17:18:38
Keep posting MSKIA some of your posts I agree with and some I disagree but that's life, you've never had a rant at me about who supports who more and you never make ridiculous claims and say your in the know, so just carry on and try not to be so hostile sometimes.

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06 Dec 2016 19:05:40
I'm sorry but for me this has gone on long enough I have noticed that a quite a few don't post no more and it's a shame the bloke even has the audacity to have a pop at the EDS who do a fantastic job on this forum. He belittles people because they don't go games but they are not entitled to a opinion and I will be honest I have had a season ticket for years traveled abroad spent thousands on watching my team but this season I couldn't get a season ticket for personal reasons does that make me less of a fan? He moans about a loss so what we lose but is there any need to moan about it get on with it move on there are worse things going on in this world take a walk round a children's hospital that would put things into perspective MR KNOW IT ALL. He has been told on countless times he agrees with you that he posts dribble then goes on one the following week Andy enjoy your pint with him but I wouldn't be surprised if you agreed to meet and he didn't turn up maybe just maybe he says he goes to all the games but really he is just a armchair supporter like me .

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10 Dec 2016 11:22:37
Mr SKIA can have whatever insane opinions he wants in my eyes; there aren't many of us who haven't posted something contentious that most other posters disagreed with. The only one that isn't welcome is his bigotry regarding match day attendance. There isn't any point in posting when you are immediately discounted from a debate / discussion for such a trivial point regardless of the quality of your points and arguments. Which is why I quit posting and it seems others have too. He's welcome to his empty forum.

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05 Dec 2016 23:05:20
Heres a question would anyone take an fa cup win over promotion? just curious.

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05 Dec 2016 23:22:03
Not me mate.

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06 Dec 2016 00:39:19
Yes natural villan i would if we get to the premiership we will either struggle or come top half at best you can beat actually wining somethink. But as we have no chance of wining the fa cup this year i would say focuss on the league. Great question tho mate really good. UTV.

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06 Dec 2016 09:03:08
No chance, get us in the prem and watch Xia throw the kitchen sink at it to stay in there, look at Southampton, Crystal Palace (to a certain degree) and Watford! Done the right way we can become a regular mid table quickly and go from there! Then the Cups will follow.

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06 Dec 2016 11:53:12
Well said Chris . Spot on.

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05 Dec 2016 19:59:30
Fa cup draw spurs away any thoughts?

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05 Dec 2016 20:26:24
Lots.

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05 Dec 2016 20:39:11
I think we should play the kids an concentrate on trying to get the playoffs. Cheers 4 the comment flackie this comes from the same guy who said in the summer that we brought well now wants more money spent in january because it turns out we brought are crap like i was saying all summer 50 million spent on this lot we are still drawing an losing 15th flackie all that money on Ross McCormack oh an this gk who has cost us 5 games i counted. so loving your jokes keep them up.

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05 Dec 2016 20:50:47
I think there is only one competition that matters this season. The league.

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05 Dec 2016 20:52:42
Another stupid comment from MSKFA.

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05 Dec 2016 21:01:05
I decided to keep my my views and comment from the tripe you post a while back.

But your right, I did say I thought we brought well, I also though rdm was a good appointment.
I hold my hands if I'm wrong, that's what men, more importantly adults do.

And for the record, it wasn't a joke! While this site remains the 'mr. still. know. it. all' show I'll keep my opinions to my self, and sadly other forums.

Enjoy.

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05 Dec 2016 21:04:08
I just re read your post. 2 things! When have I said I want more money spent?! (I do! But I've not posted that! )

And you can count?!

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05 Dec 2016 21:06:09
Just like every other manager RDM made some good signings and some not so good. That's normal.
But to say we wasted 50m is complete rubbish.
Remember we needed to replace virtually a complete squad. You can't do that with 50m.
As a result we still have play several of last seasons lot i.e Westwood Hutton Bacuna Agbonlahor etc. They all need to go but its costs mega money and takes time.
I'm just as gutted as you about Saturday it ruined my weekend. But I'm getting over it now and so should you Mr. SKIA . So just because some contributors no longer wish to take part meaningfully you shouldn't have a go at them.
Just keep your opinions coming thick and fast old timer.
Oh and you failed to buy me that pint at Leeds. I was parched!

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05 Dec 2016 21:25:29
AndyPF i will always accept your comments because you talk sense and sorry about the pint lol the stewarding was awful at this supposably big club Leeds. But don't you think most championship clubs would give their right arm for the money we spent? I only pointed out to Flackie that he was wrong because all summer i was abused and told i don't know what iam talking about! I must mention other forums are available but for people who like to talk and debate this is by far the best forum football is about opinions and banter Flackie don't take life to serious. Andy I will get you that pint playoff final we will celebrate together!

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05 Dec 2016 21:38:47
Flackie don't hold your hands up to anything yet! If McCormack starts performing during AFCON a starts scoring once he gets a proper run in the team, and Tshibola gets back in and plays the way he did under RDM when we was all more than happy with him, then we did spend well in the summer but any extra help from new additions would be welcome. MSKIA your starting to sound like you've given up on the squad already after 1 defeat in 8? Watching the game back on that 5 football program we were unlucky, on another day adomah and Gardner score and Westwood squares it to Rudy who's through on! 2-0 flattered them with 1 in the last minute and 1 a mistake from the keeper and centre back, just remember what they've been doing the other 7 games!

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05 Dec 2016 22:35:10
I haven't given up yet mate I still think they playoffs. But judging purely so far then I don't think it was a successful summer. Your right things can change and they will have to if we are to go up. You mention the 8 game record it was a improvement but still we drew to many again the away form has to pick up aswel we need to attack this league. I don't mean to offend anybody on here and i respect all views even if i don't agree with them! But what i can't accept is a club like Aston Villa being 15th in the championship under bruce things are better but we still need huge improvement mate. Now best plan is we all have a beer and roar our lions on saturday!

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04 Dec 2016 00:46:04
Just returned from Leeds 1st half was pretty boring not a lot happend which suited us. But 4 me bruce got the team wrong today and wow that gk majes another mistake i have never seen a worst gk ever his cost us 5 games now his awful!

positives westwood not biggest fan but thought he played well today. Rudi is simply awful why not give libor a ago gabby rudi and mcormack our options in january need to improve. all is not lost we can still go up but this gk can't keep costing us games needs dropping once and for all. Bet bruce cor wait till january. on the upside Birmingham city 0. Barnsley 3 UTV.

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04 Dec 2016 09:36:10
Mate I know it's easy to get wound up and over exaggerate a bit after a game like that after you've made the trip but can you name these 5 games? I've got it down as he's cost us 3 and kept us in 2, cost us vs Sheffield Wednesday, Huddersfield and can't remember the other the one last minute where he didn't get to the corner an flapped at it! But against Newcastle he was outstanding and against Derby he kept us in it! His a young lad and obviously going to make mistakes which is what we don't want now but I really do think he'll be a top top keeper! Yesterday however he really should of just cleaned that Rolfe out, take him and the ball, don't know how he ended up misjudging it that bad to be honest but in his defence adomah should have stopped the ball coming in and elphic should have tracked his man! Deserved a draw up until extra time yesterday but hey ho we knew there would be loses along the way! Bounce back against Wigan and we've got 5 games before new year, honestly think we should be getting 10-12 points from them! Slowly slowly, keep creeping the way we have been!

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04 Dec 2016 10:11:03
ok i agree maybe not 5 but 4 games now surely if you want to go up you can't have a gk costing you games every few weeks. Bruce has been fantasic in making us better defencely but he is a awful gk at the mo maybe in years to come he might be great but at the mo he isn't the right gk for us. Leeds was crap yesturday bruce got team selection wrong and if the gk does his job stays at 0.0 they only got the 2nd because we pushed.

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04 Dec 2016 10:27:44
I do agree we need consistency in goal but he has been that since his early game, if he makes another in the coming weeks then I will agree, and maybe we should look to bring in a keeper to help push each other for the position because at the minute he's got to compete with the cardboard cut out that is Mark Bunn, so maybe he's too comfortable? And as for team selection I think Bruce over estimated Leeds because of their league position, and played 3 defensive mids, instead of sticking to 2 and grealish, had he of done that I think we could of took it to them and got something! Hey ho, let's take Wigan to the cleaners, get kodja through the middle, grealish behind him, keep the ball on the deck and do what suits us!

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04 Dec 2016 11:03:37
Our goalkeeper is not good enough, yet. Our midfield is not good enough and hasn't been for several years.
We need to sign a quality goalie, a replacement for Hutton and TWO top quality midfielders. In January. IMO it's as obvious as the nose on your face.

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04 Dec 2016 11:30:51
What about the defence? Without baker we look weak, elphic was just as at fault at Gollini for their goal.

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04 Dec 2016 11:47:14
Well in an ideal world yes, we could replace Elphick . But the world isn't ideal. If it was we could offload Gabby, Kozac, Gestede, Bunn, Bacuna, Cissokho and more.
I just think that Gollini, Hutton Gardener and Westwood are the four we should replace at this point in time. Just my opinion Chris.

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04 Dec 2016 11:53:26
Weren't having a pop mate just thought you'd over looked elphic aswell, I agree with what you've said! I'd just throw him in aswell because it's worrying that after baker we've got no one really. Although Toner comes back after Jan and I did like the look of him so he could fit in! Would love to see a new CB RB CM and ST (providing we get rid of kozak) after Jan!

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04 Dec 2016 12:02:31
I think bruce was scared of leeds which is stupid really because we don't have to be defensive We are a good side why not take the game to teams i think bruce was not confident if he picked the same side that won against cardiff we would of won what's he scared of grelish an ayew an kodjia even gabby are miles better than the championship! We are Aston Villa for god sake! We will murder wigan.

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04 Dec 2016 12:06:52
I do agree mate, should of kept the same team and started on the front foot!

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04 Dec 2016 18:09:51
I agree Mr SKIA, apart from the Gabby bit. IMO he's finished and I really don't understand why he's chosen ahead of RHM.
I actually begrudge paying my hard earned cash to line his pockets. I've never felt that way about a Villa player before.
Or maybe it's just me getting old and grumpy.

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04 Dec 2016 18:40:46
Rhm is injured at the minute so that is why I used gabby agbonlahor he is trying but he isn't good enough. Facts are in the summer as usual we blew a load of cash on players who just can't cut it. golini fail. Ross McCormack fail. elphick fail. tishbola fail. All the talk about getting the right players in and we go an blow 50 mill on players that have just not worked out. Hopfully bruce can out this right because we will never get our cash back for these players. In my view if you spend 50 million you should have a good team that is either 1st or 2nd but we are know where near that. 50 million is a lot in this league most of them would dream of that budget. So let me get this straight having listened to your views we need a gk a cbk and a new midfield and maybe a striker as the ones we got don't really score apart from kodjia. People shot me down in the summer mate when i said these players weren't good enough now where are they i was right in what i said because most want to buy more players because these guys can't cut it!

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04 Dec 2016 19:25:14
Sorry mate but too early to completely call Gollini Tshibola and McCormack fails, Tshibola hasn't even played properly yet under Bruce! And if McCormack shows the form we know he can during AFCON how can he be a fail? We can't turn on the team now fgs we have lost 1 in 8, and it wasn't like we rolled over like last year! Just remember we know what this team can do we have seen it! So let's get behind them and smash Wigan and keep on climbing!

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03 Dec 2016 21:37:03
every season we all have the same conversation but in jan what's everyone thinking we ne to boost the team? i'm thinking CM/ RB/ ST (but only a deal job)

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03 Dec 2016 23:21:47
Goal keeper!

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03 Dec 2016 23:54:25
Poor keep it for the first goal! Like Hutton's heart but agree need a new RB. Midfield again not creative enough to enable us to break down LUFC. Thought we were better side and Leeds are 4th! Still see playoffs as most realistic result by end of season UTV.

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04 Dec 2016 09:39:32
Yea I'd go for a centre mid (would say Lansbury but after watching him vs the toon wouldn't want him! ) someone like Will Hughes, Tom Huddlestone. Then a right back, funny enough Matt Lowton would be brilliant, but don't think that's possible, can't even think of any that are realistic but they need to be able to defend as well as go forward! And then a striker probs on loan if have Jordan Rhodes! Don't think we should get a keeper unless Gollini goes to juve and they won't loan him back.

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04 Dec 2016 11:21:14
IMO it's pointless replacing journeymen like Westwood, Gardener and Hutton unless you buy real quality replacements.
So Dr. Xia, why wait? Splash the cash I say.
As long as we can keep reasonably in touch come January then with 2 or 3 top quality recruits ( plus an experienced goalie on loan ) then I firmly believe we can get promoted.
We have the money, we have the manager, we have brilliant support, we almost have a good team.
So please Dr. Tony make this a great Xmas for us long suffering faithful fans.

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04 Dec 2016 15:04:35
begovic is a good all i reckon for keeper never gets time as a keeper and even if we just get his till end year will do great job, tripper never gets 5 minutes for spurs, Hughes i wouldn't mind but might cost s few bob with the prem teams sniffing around him and strikers i think it has to be likes of rhodes or even see if sunderland will sell defoe.

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04 Dec 2016 17:22:17
Would love trippier but he does get game time at spurs these days.

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04 Dec 2016 18:19:34
just realised like most i'm thinking we need to buy a decent rb. but might be injured we have a crack due back next season, so whoever we get might have to be a loan.

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05 Dec 2016 10:38:44
Ross mac will show up during afcon. Think tshbola deserves some game time. Can't remember him doing anything wrong when he's played. Bruce must have a few brain cells. He's the first manager in years that has found out bacuna is terrible! Need a right back, Huttons distribution is pants. It would be nice to have a right back that can cross a ball.

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03 Dec 2016 19:49:18
Can't win anything without a midfield Gardner Westwood jedinak just not good enough.

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03 Dec 2016 20:43:14
100% spot on.

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04 Dec 2016 09:41:33
Didn't think Jedinak and Westwood did too bad yesterday, the former especially. Gardner was a bit more "missing" so to speak but I do remember a few things he did that were decent, just think we need a more creative midfield, replace one of them with a will Hughes and they'd do fine!

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03 Dec 2016 19:48:58
disappointed with the lads today. thought we compete well for 80 mins then got sloppy last 10. we looked like the team that had played 3 games in a week in end not them. a draw would of been fare for me over the whole match. we just did not look on it or at our best today and had no luck either. onwards and upwards though and on to Wigan game now.

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03 Dec 2016 10:31:28
NUFC.
Are they feeling the pressure?
Poor result last week and again last night.
Top of the table closing up.
Tomorrow
I would settle for 1_1 but 3 pts would be outstanding.

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03 Dec 2016 12:11:54
I agree. a point but I'm actually expecting 3
But it's tonight mate. not tomorrow.

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03 Dec 2016 12:59:47
Had a £20 bet with a nose yesterday morning that we'd go up as Champions, shall I cash out at £10 on Monday lol?

UTV.

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02 Dec 2016 23:55:08
Leeds0 vs Aston Villa 2.

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02 Dec 2016 08:04:45
When will Mrs Doubtfire AKA Neil Warnock
Give it a rest
I was amazed Cardiff ended up 10 players on the pitch . Lambert for the punch and the bearded warrior for his constant assaults on Grealish should have walked.
They had every intention of kicking Grealish and co . They paid the price for Bully Boy Tactics
Fact
We only have Grealish Westwood and Hutton at the moment as starters from the namby Panby
Premiership starters of last season
We still look a bit shaky when teams get physical but getting Savey under SB with the out to get ya players
So Warnock build a bridge and get over it mate
And we will see you in Cardiff.

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02 Dec 2016 11:54:21
What's he said now?

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02 Dec 2016 13:41:25
He's done it his whole career mate. He's not going to stop at his age.
His teams play like thugs yet he tries to get into the ref's heads by whinging about supposed injustices in order to normalise his players behaviour
Thankfully, most refs seem wise to it now
It's pathetic in a young manager; in an older one it's particularly tragic.

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02 Dec 2016 14:20:34
Could tell from the get go their whole game plan was to stick to grealish and take him out because the same players chopping him down would just stand and jockey the others if they were on the ball, shame for them that grealish just showed his too good for that, kept his cool and just kept getting the fouls! Just me who remembers when Warnock got exposed for giving players and extra few grand in their contract on the basis they give it to him to get into the first team- been a clown all his career!

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02 Dec 2016 18:22:05
He was moaning after the game Saturday
And again Sunday
Pick up the paper Monday in the goal section
It is there again
To round it off
Alan Brazil show on Talksport.

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01 Dec 2016 17:01:01
Rip to all those who died in the air disaster.

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01 Dec 2016 17:37:33
Here, Here well said.

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