Aston Villa Banter Archive December 01 2013 to December 31 2013

 

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30 Dec 2013 17:23:24
Well, just over 1 day to go and hopefully we will see what PL intends to do with the funds that he has been promised. Problem is that we don't know how big the fund is or more to the point how small the fund is for January.
PL must have been looking around to see who he wants to tempt into VP. Am I correct that in the summer he did his business early? Will he do the same this window?
Our list is massive, PL & Lerners list, well who knows?
Being a Villa supporter for so many years I find it quite exciting waiting to see the newcomers arrive, as surely they will, if Villa are to remain as one of the original Prem. clubs.
Realistically who do you think will be coming in and who do you think will be leaving. then who do you think should be leaving?
My wish is for a leader on the pitch who will boll --k the 50% players and work with those giving 110%.
C'mon who will we see?
Kingvilla now is your chance!!

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Need a defensive midfielder to break up the play then an attacking midfielder to find the assists. Need a striker on loan John Guidetti has been linked. And maybe a centre back who can pass the ball around.

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I'm thinking we play Lowton as CDM as he has a good pass and with his defensive experience I think he would be good in this role ( better than anyone that we have currently) and it would allow him to get forward more.

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Who would play right back though? Bacuna or Herd.

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I'd play with the current squad:
Given
Vlar Clark Okore
Lowton Gardner
Gabby Delph. Nzogbia
Benteke

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31 Dec 2013 22:00:08
I would like to wish everyone on this site who take the time to voice and express their feelings about ASTON VILLA.

Also Ed for his help with some of our questions.

A very happy new year to you all.

villadave

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Cheers Dave, same to you mate

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30 Dec 2013 16:31:36
Definitely think zaha on loan would be a good shout, weiman needs dropping aswell as quite a few of that team. Said it over the summer that the club enquired about Gregory sertic and would be a useful realistic target for this window.
As for a playmaker I'd love to see us at least attempt to bring yoann gourcuff in, would be a sign of ambition from the club anyway.


Everyone is on the management and owners backs but its all down to the players not being able to string more than 2 passes together why aren't players like Clark, luna, weiman, Westwood etc getting their fair share of flack?! Can't see them being able to get into many teams in the championship let alone prem.

Finch

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Hi Finch.

I agree about the players mate, I think the players have a lot to answer for, professionals should be able to adapt to anything that is put in front of them or at least try.

Problem is a lot of them think they are better than they are.

villadave

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The manager plays them so he takes the blame let's be honest would any other prem team play them except gabby and tecky

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We didn`t play Bannan & Ireland but other managers are prepared too.

Its the managers choice, but player stand up and be counted do they not

villadave

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Hi Ed

Can you shine any light as to why PL keeps overlooking Helenius?

Seems to me his face doe`s not fit.

I feel he could become a VP favourite given the chance.

He has talent, vision and great ability, scores goals and creates chances.

villadave

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{Ed001's Note - he has replied, but not quite with the reply I expected, and it is something I am not sure he is correct regarding. He claims that Lerner's being advised to remove Lambert from his position and that potential replacements are already being sounded out, so it doesn't matter why Helenius isn't playing.

Personally I am not sure if he is right, there has been nothing from elsewhere regarding anyone being contacted. But I will stand by him, as he should know more regarding the situation than any journalist. I am hoping to find out who has been contacted, if he will tell me that.}

Thank you very much for that ed.

Very interesting.

villadave

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Ed
If it is true? well,
lets just say I have been talking with a few mates and the name of Solskjaer has cropped up more than once.
Lets see if the Sunderland result brings something light.

villadave

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{Ed001's Note - he is being put forward for every job in England at the moment!}

Before Lambert was appointed was Solskjaer not approached by Lerner and did he not reject the approach? Why would he now change his mind?

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Have you never changed your mind mate.

Its called circumstances

villadave

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30 Dec 2013 14:18:50
anyone no what is going on with Bennett is he still injured if not get him in 4 luna that man is awful I sure he is blind in his left eye he always has a player out wide 20yards away from him waiting to receive the ball and time for gardner and helenius been saying it for weeks at the games don't no what lamberts problem with them is especially helenius its his signing

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Good shout, much the same as my post last week.

villadave

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We need young players with premiership experince and not players from abroad. Lambert needs 30 mil to add to his squad and with that he needs a rb, lb, cdm, and 2 cam to add to guzan, vlaar, okere, delph, agbonlahor, benteke would not mind walker creswell diame rodwell and maybe kiotake from aboard?

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30 Dec 2013 15:39:59
Hi Ed.

Do you have any information as to why PL prefers not to use Helenius.

It seems to me his face doe`s not fit, for me he would become a favourite a VP if given the chance.
He has got talent, vision and ability.

Villadave.

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{Ed001's Note - I am trying to find out for you mate, I have kept your second one for if I can find anything. Right now, all I have been told is that Lambert doesn't think he is ready, just want to check there isn't a specific reason. And I do agree, I think he looks a talent.}

Thank you Ed.

Waiting for anything you can find out.

villadave

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{Ed001's Note - I am just waiting on a reply, the person I asked is very close to the lad, so he should know if there is an issue. Even if his answer is along the lines of being unable to say, at least then we will know that there is an issue, rather than just wondering what is going on.}

Hi Ed can u find out was is going on with Bennett as we'll cheers

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{Ed001's Note - I will try for you, as he hasn't replied might get him to get moving if he has a few emails bugging him!}

30 Dec 2013 09:29:45
Statement in paper PL said he as full backing of RL, its a long project so a near 40000 have to watch s--t football for how long? A project doomed to fail because any commodity you buy you get what you pay for Rolls Royce or reliant we keep buying reliants so what dose this state. it means championship and doing a wolves the players bought are S--T they are not young 23/24 yr old should be near peak I thought PL was going to give our youth a chance but no. cheap player are all we get Doug Ellis would have sacked him buy now. RL/PL are poor businessman if they can't see this, rant over

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Don't apologise for ranting mate. If you can't do it here, where can you do it. Plus, you have good cause!

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Bit harsh to call randy Lerner (one of the rich buisness men ) a poor buisness man because he doesn't know football lol

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29 Dec 2013 22:52:42
I would personally bring in:

St: guidetti loan from city
Cm: will Hughes perm (big money signing)
Lb: cresswell (Ipswich) swap Bennett + cash

Gardner and Grealish need to be first team sooner rather then later. Far better players thn kea and tonev.

MattVillan92

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Agree MattVillan villajk

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Cresswell has just signed a new contract

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Good realistic target Matt. Isn't guidetti injured though?
Finch

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29 Dec 2013 21:56:30
Ed do u have any news on vlaar and benteke return date because Vlaar keeps and getting put back and I don't know what happened to benteke

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{Ed001's Note - they are both due back for the New Year's Day match, possibly, as the club have a fitness test for them lined up ahead of it. So keep your fingers crossed.}

29 Dec 2013 12:02:54
Edz any decent rumours about any players of quality being linked to avfc yet? aside from Omar which I just don't see happening because we lack the ambition to capitalize on what would be a major coup.

This would not be far off a pretty decent side. Guzan?LB Vlaar Okore Lowton Delph Westwood Slavchev Omar Bacuna Benteke Zaha Helenius

Other realistic options-Guidetti, Ba, De Bruyne. Will Hughes

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{Ed013's Note - If money was available I would say Ba and Guidetti would be very achievable signings. I can't see De Bruyne going to Villa and Will Hughes is being monitored by a lot of clubs, but with Derby doing very well I can't see him leaving until at least the Summer unless a big offer is made. I don't have any concrete links due to things not being great at the minute with results}

That team no better than the present one we need a new manager

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That team has 13 players

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28 Dec 2013 22:12:50
Putting aside Lerner's part in this shambles
We are 18 months in to Lambert's reign and we pass the ball worse than we did under Mcleish
The players are poor but the coaching is worse

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Can't agree more Mendax, we are awful! But what is the answer? I took a lot negative comments about suggesting that Holloway would do a job, but is really think we need some passion. AGD

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I totally agree with you, we seem to have less a hold of the games these days we get outplayed by everyone. We have no control over any of the game at any time and I find it hard to predict where the next win is, as it seems most our wins are very lucky (I. e no passing move and a good finish, it is just a long ball yes we have become a long ball team ).

I am coming to the conclusion that pl has become obssed by the whole trusting in youth players. You can trust in young players is they have the ability, DESIRE and passion ( incoming play Gary Gardner, I think he Actuly cares and would leave everything on the pitch any he can pick a pass ) ie ross Barkley, berhanio, wilshire but non of the young players we have are any good.

In general please signing have been very poor exception benteke and Lowton I suppose 2 out of 17 players (2/17) isn't a bad hit rate for signing good players (I'm joking ).

I was all for lambert but unless we change formation change the starting players, change the tactics from counter attacking to try and controlling the game abit more so we are not defending for 90 mins which leads to our low possession in games and inevitably conceding due to the prolonged pressure. ( don't say possession means nothing, you look at stats across every league in the world and the team with more possession comes out on top more times than the team with Lower possession)

We are currently the lowest scoring team at home out of all 92 teams in the football league. And out of the last 47 games at home we have only won 11 games

Anyway I feel this is the last transfer window for lambert if the team does not change.

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But I really think (spelling correction). AGD

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{Ed007's Note - Don't worry about spelling (or grammar) AGD, as long as your post is legible and not in text speak it's fine. We don't post anything slagging spelling/grammar either as it can discourage people from posting, it's not an English literature site and we're all capable of the odd typo.}

Cheers Ed AGD

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Hi all.

This really is all very depressing reading, and I can`t add anything too what has been said.
It is obvious how passionate we all are about our team, but enough is enough.
None of us mind loosing a game of football here and there, but at least put up a fight, to be totally humiliated by teams that are not great themselves is shameful.

The worrying thing to me is that some of the teams below us are far more organised than us, and can hold the ball and pass it.

Our 27% possession yesterday "AT HOME" was in reality 20% because the 7% the ball was in the air.

As supporters we are not persons and can see where the problems are, for gods sake Lambert listen to what Villa fans are saying and change things a bit.

Do what Ron Saunders did make us hard to beat, If we have the ball nobody can hurt us.

Villadave

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Hard as nails shin kicker C/H required, and a couple of destructive full backs wouldn't hurt, to frighten the opposition.
Just football is not going to get us out of the situation that we are in at present.
Same is needed in the middle of the park.
Benteke needs to get his finger out and take the knocks that his role expects.
Football alone will not get us out of the ----, skill is alright in its place but we need results at any cost.

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I think the hate on benteke needs to be cooled down abit, he overachieved last season and I very much doubt he will get to the same heights again.

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Benteke started this season in the same way he finished last. Then he got 2 injuries and was rushed back
I can't believe people are slating the guy
He should have been allowed to recuperate fully and then brought back
A fully fit Benteke is a class act

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Not sure I agree with you about Benteke villabean.

I think with good supporting players and service he is a 20+ goal a season player, he has quality.

He needs someone who he can play off, someone like a Gary Shaw or a Brian Little, then we would see him flourish once more.

That is the reason I keep harping on about Helenius.

villadave

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Hi Dave, Now you are talking footballers that are legends at VP. Both YOUNG and hungry. What we could do with them in the side.
Oh dear I might spill my cocoa if I am not careful.
In those days we had defenders who took no prisoners. Our current lot would invite em home to take afternoon tea!

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Hi.
Not sure who you are, but yeh great villa players.

villadave

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Villadave, in respect to benteke I hope he turns out to be 20+ season man but I think everyone should just cool the hate and expectation being placed on benteke.

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+ we are placing to much on the return of benteke

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Hi Villabean.

I agree with the hate thing its not good.

I think he is great and wish people would lay off him.

Hope he is with us long term, but can`t see it personally.

A top quality player

villadave

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28 Dec 2013 15:57:07
Someone wants to tell the villa players they are allowed to play with the f**king ball as well, christ almighty 75% opposition possession, we are getting a real footballing lesson here.

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True to above, PL we have seen your c--p players now let SID use his young players and the ones on loan they would do better AND GIVE GARDNER a chance we know you like boring Westwood because he plays like you did boring

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Hi Villanick,
Perhaps they should train in match shirts, then they might recognise them on Saturdays.
Does anybody know when Vlaar is coming back?
If he leaves it much longer all hope will be gone.
Does anybody know when the taxi for Clark is arriving to take him away?
WE all know that Gardeners brother is a city fan, perhaps PL thinks that he is also a city man so won't give him a game.
I am a PL man but I am now getting concerned that he is losing the plot as to what to do next.
What are we going to do about the dross that is at VP?
Can anybody see another club willing to buy any of them? The total value of the entire squad must be pitifully low as most of them would not fetch half a million quid.
Lerner must be losing millions just in the value of the entire playing staff.
Pl is struggling but it is still Lerner out.

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28 Dec 2013 15:00:16
I think it we could sign Defoe he would only cost around 5/6 million and would give the team a lift and he has lots of experience and he almost guarantee goals and he would a bit of a different dimension to are current attack.

I also think a loan move for Scott Sinclair would be a good move until the end of the season with a look to a permant deal.

Also possibly a further loan move for jack rodwell who could add abit of strength and charcter to the midfield.

The potentiol team I would play with these signing would be :
Guzan
Lowton Vlar Clark Luna
Rodwell Gardner
Sinclair delph gabby/viemen
Defoe/benteke

What are your opinions on this?

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Scott sinclairs on lost a west brom from man city.

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I like the look of that team except the left fullback, Gardner can't get a look in with all the c--p playing now its a pity! PL don't like him prefers Westwood KEA Bowery Bacuna All cheap players and v. poor at the moment swans all over villa let's hope we can get something out of this game but I love the way the swans pass it

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I think that Defoe would be a very good player for Aston Villa. Finnbogason or Vossen too.

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28 Dec 2013 12:47:51
Randy assures PL JOB is safe can't believe how stupid he is, at any other team with a record like ours PL would be out, he will take us down that's his 3yr project, boring football

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I don't believe a word of it. If he loses today, he will be sacked.

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28 Dec 2013 14:30:33
what a s--t team Gary Gardner can't even make the bench Lambert OUT

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28 Dec 2013 03:49:52
Who we got apart helinus and nzogbia with creativity in our
squad? Has pl had money yet to sort that out?

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27 Dec 2013 14:28:09
Anyone for Holloway? Guaranteed passion and effort!

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No thanks glen hoddle Guaranteed good football, sick of effort and passion

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Hollowat, do me a favour. The prem laugh at us at present, if we took Hollowat the world would laugh.

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Love Ian Holloway, but I fear his transfer buys are just as dodgy as PL

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27 Dec 2013 16:40:48
I have thought about this for a long time now but would like to know your feelings on the team below.
There is not much you can do with the current squad and our form, but I have always tried to make bold moves, and I would do so in our current situation.

Guzan
Lowton, Baker, Clarke, Bennett

Westwood, Delph Gardener

Albrighton Gabby Helenius


Subs :??

I would play this line up until Benteke is fit and then swap Albrighton and move Gabby out wide.

When Vlaar and Okore are fit they would replace
Baker and Clarke.

Plan B on request

Probably not every ones cup of tea but you all know my feelings about Helenius and he must be given a chance.

Your thought Please

Villadave

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Hi Dave

I don't think Bennett os good enough at right back.
People keep saying how good Gardner is but with his limited exposure to the first team I don't see where this confidence comes from
I know even less about Helenius. But, if Bowery is getting in the team ahead of him, how good can he actually be?
When all said and done, we just don't have good enough players for this league regardless of the formation you play them in
I've depressed myself now

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Hi Mendax,
Merry Christmas mate.

I think you have miss understood I have put Bennet at left back not RB.

Gardner is more of a probing midfield player who can score goals and make telling passes.

I agree most off our players are not prem quality but we have got to try something mate.

Villadave

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Can u please stop speaking about helenius in the first team. Kozak was not the player we needed but he's a decent striker that has an eye for goal and is much much better than helenius. The only people that know a bit about helenius is lambert and the coaches, and they don't even think he's as good as Bowery. he's obviously not good enough. The only top player we actually have at the moment is benteke who, although isn't scoring many, is quality and it is because he's injured and Bennett! Can u remember how bad he was! Definiatly not but I would like to see Gardner. Just my opinion.

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Glad to see you also don't rate Luna Dave. I watched a lot of mallorca last season and he looked out of his depth there. Needless to say they also got relegated.

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Seasons greeting to you as well Dave
Slip of the finger on that one mate.
Suffice to say I don't believe Bennett should be allowed anywhere on the pitch
I agree, we should probably try something different (what do we have to lose) but I fear it is an exercise in rearranging the deck-chairs on the Titanic
The majority of our players are just not good enough and you know what they say. "you can't polish a turd"

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Sorry mate, but Helenius would dance round Kozak if he was wearing clogs, he is by far a better all round player.

And you say the only people who know are Lambert and the coaches,
If that's the case how come they keep dismissing the fact we are in dire need of a quality attacking midfielder.

And Bennett is not the best I know, but he is as good as Luna and has been in a dog fight before, and believe me that's what we are in now.

villadave

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Mendax I like it, true you can't polish a turd.

But you can change the shape of it,
with gloves on of coarse.

villadave

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27 Dec 2013 09:07:46
Haven't posted for a while but after the performances against Fulham, Man U, Stoke & Crystal Palace felt it was appropriate to do so.

Other than Guzan & Gabby, the rest of our team are playing like Sunday league players. We are woeful and when Bannan looks half decent it just shows how poor our midfield was yesterday!

Our defence is appauling Clark and Baker just don't have the ability to play at this level and the sooner we get Vlaar back and fit or PL signs an EXPERIENCED centre half the better.

Late in the game yesterday when we needed to push on Clark repeatedly ignored the ball to Bacuna on the left wing choosing instead to launch a hopeful ball into the heart of the Palace defence.

We just don't have anyone who can open a defence with a well placed pass (something we struggle to manage anywhere on the pitch to frequently) and the sooner we sign someone with this talent the better.

PL and RL now need to bring in experience and quality otherwise I do not see use picking up many more points this season and we'll all be watching Championship football next season.

PL/RL get a grip!

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Agree. We had our chances with belhanda and coutinho and blew it. They would be perfect players for us

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27 Dec 2013 00:55:57
1st team should be (when everyone is fit):
Guzan

Vlaar Baker Clark
Bacuna Westwood Delph Luna
Weimann. Agbonlahor
Benteke

Subs:
Steer, Lowton, Gardner, El Ahmadi, Tonev, Kozak, Sylla

Think we play better with wing back because they like to get forward and attack. The centre midfield pairing of Delph and Westwood is solid because they can play together easily. Weimann works hard and gabby has the pace. Baker puts his body in where it hurts and Vlaar is solid. Even though Benteke is in a barren spell and can't score he will find the net and won't be able to stop scoring. But, he does need more help and by playing wing backs it means more crosses can come into the box.

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Clark should never be near the pitch, he is dire, always pointing and waving. TAXI for Clark!
Baker needs a lot more experience.
PL needs to buy at least 2 more central defenders in the window and get Benteke's head sorted out and if he doesn't start scoring stick him in with the kids or leave him on the bench. If he is not playing then he will not be going to the World cup.

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Sorry Cjr seen this team play they are poor, both full backs get destroyed midfield no creativity

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What team would you play?

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Baker is a joke and just because he puts his body in the way doesn't make him a good center half. My son plays center half for a Sunday league team and isn't afraid to put his body in the way of the ball!

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27 Dec 2013 00:48:42
As much as I am trying to be supportive of Lambert I think his time is up and if he goes he can take Lerner with him. The fans where on his back throughout the game and he can't do anything if he isn't given the resources. I wouldn't mine if we were to be taken over by red bull at least we would have some money and might win some home games. If Lambert does leave I would like to see Zola come in. He made Watford pass the ball and knows what he is doing and he can teach the strikers how to score a goal or too.
LERNER OUT!
SOTC

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I think that it would be better, if Lerner appointed Di Matteo instead.

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Don't think Di Matteo can survive without money.

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Di Matteo is to much of an impact manager and was only good at Chelsea because the players knew him and wanted to do it for him

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26 Dec 2013 23:57:50
Is there any interest in a loan move for jermaine defoe? I think he could be a quality signing as he will be keen to impress with the upcoming World Cup and the shocking state of our attack.

Current all I see with a little quality is Lowton ( brought back in the team because he's one of our most creative players and he's a frickin RB )
And delph

Luna is ok going froward but so was Bennett last season he's terrible defensively but maybe needs some more time which brings me onto the next point we need another 2 midfielders if lambert refuse to play Gary Gardner, I hope if we buy somone it's 8 million + and over the age of 24

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Think Defoe would be a good signing he knows where the goal is.

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26 Dec 2013 20:51:52
Never thought i'd say this, but really regretting buying a season ticket this year, Villa now have the worst home record in all four divisions! WTF! something has got to change, and fast!

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26 Dec 2013 18:56:04
Not much that one can say after todays debacle. Beaten by what I thought was the worst team in the prem, that is until now.
Realisation that the other team in Claret and Blue on the pitch, us, are by far worse.
I cannot blame PL, although he should be able to shuffle the pack, the players he has are not able to change the style of play when needed. He has bought what the miserly money he has been given will buy. The entire management staff need a kick up the rear end to wake them up and if they don't want to put the money up they should do the decent thing and bog off back over the pond.
We must have the most stupid, arrogant and unwilling owner in the entire football world.
Come on Red Bull, Sheik your Money, Richard Branson or whoever, you are needed at B6, NOW.
Lerner out ASAP

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I wouldn't let Lambert off that lightly mate
Lets's not forget he spent 8 million (allegedly) on Kozac
Also, what do our players do all week on the training ground?
It must be hockey or netball because this lot couldn't pass wind
Shockingly bad display, shockingly bad management and coaching and shockingly bad leadership from Lerner
My heart says get rid of Lambert now. But, let's face it. We are not an attractive proposition to a decent manager right now. That said, we are going one way under Lambert and that is down

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Let the relegation battle commence once again!

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I blame PL for all his bad buys this is his team and its poor, inferior players, he will take us down. you might get 1gem, quality dose not come cheap but PL would rather spend £10million on 10 players myself £10m for 1, even that's cheap.

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A battle means we stand a chance

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Hi Mendax, PL is anchored to the floor.
Kozac was one of the leading scorers in the Euro champ. league last year but if we don't supply the balls then we ain't getting the goals.
Given little money you only buy peanuts and that is what PL has had to buy.
If Scrooge only gives peanut money we are not going to get strawberries and cream.
Lerner out NOW!

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I totally agree that Lambert is "anchored to the floor". That is what makes the Kozak signing more baffling as opposed to less
He needed to spend that 8 million on a quality midfield player
When money is tight it has to be spent wisely
We just cannot afford Lambert's stupidity in the transfer market

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My blame goes mostly to Lambert, for buying the wrong players (Bowery, Bennett, Tonev, El Ahmadi and Bacuna) and he should have sold Benteke last time when he had the chance. The income could easily have been a little over £30 million. With that money he could have invested in players like Finnbogason, Popov, McGeady and Jansson. I also blame many of the players for not giving it all. And I support Lerner for not giving too much money to be spent at once, because he is giving enough to invest in decent players. If the money was spent at once, Lerner could go bankrupt and there is no guarantee that the club can win every league it is playing in. Remember what Lerner did under the management of O'Neill, £200 million was spent in 4 years. The club can't be run like that anymore, so Lerner is not the problem here.

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26 Dec 2013 18:46:30
Randy don't let PL waste any moor money please get rid bad buys, bad football

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26 Dec 2013 18:28:35
i have so many words to explain how I feel about our team at the minute but none of these words should be used before 9 and I have kids present. I for one kept standing by lambert saying I think he's the wrong man for job but he can keep us up. but after the piss poor showing we have put out for last few months I think its safe to say i'm in agreement with most on here. either we need new manager or money released to sign the players that are needed or RANDY CAN **** OFF BACK TO NFL, JUST CAUSE YOUR WIFE BUTT****ED YOU IN THE DIVORCE don't MEAN WE got to SUFFER (sorry to rant)

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26 Dec 2013 18:23:05
This was abject thrash today, to get beat by a team such as crystal palace is totally unacceptable, this was probably the worst villa team I have ever watched in the 50 years i'll been watching them and believe me I have seen some crap teams but these beat the lot. we have all got to unite now at the swansea game and let lerner and his merry men that means you mr faulkener that this needs changing NOW

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26 Dec 2013 17:19:52
Time for pl to go after that today and mr lerner to if he is not willing to commit. We on a one way path to championship as we speak. Everton swansea Southampton newcastle are all teams we could and should be beating to signings by having more muscle in the market and 3 of the 4 play a brand of football we would love at the villa. pl is a one trick pony and no idea what to do when it don't work. He also fails to play the required players at the right time. However randy lerner is as much to blame for thinking he can eat steak for dog food prices. You must be willing to invest season after season if you are to do any good in this league and if randy does not have the love for the club to do that no more he needs to move on. He has the money so its down to passion and love for our club. Any thoughts please

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26 Dec 2013 17:02:20
PL must go now, he should resign. worst villa team ever. Cheap imports no good, Bowery should not be at this great club, GG when will he be used

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26 Dec 2013 16:55:33
Worst team in the prem.
Deserve to be relegated.
Lambert out.

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Absolute s****

Worst Villa team for years

Stay with Lambert and we are DOWN.

Villdave

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I think we are down with or without a new manager to be honest. Some of those players don't deserve to wear the shirt. The squad is wafer thin and Lerner must make funds available.

Finch

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Some these players don't deserve to wear an accrington stanley shirt never mind villa. but saying that carry on this way we will be playing them in few years anyway

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26 Dec 2013 16:53:31
Lerner buy some players. Lambert can jog on. Fed up with this

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24 Dec 2013 22:47:17
Reported budget of £8 million from rl in jan + player sales, what does lambert do with that avfc fans

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Waste it probably

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It would be enough money to invest in new players, because Benteke, Given, Stevens and Delfouneso will likely be sold. Lambert will probably get £28-30 million combined. The new players should be Finnbogason, Popov, Traore and Jansson.

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Although we can pray that Lambert will buy the players we believe we need, there is no reason for us to think that he will. I would love to have a player like Belhanda or Kiyotake in our ranks but we do not have the pulling power, unless Lambert is a genius. We will have to succumb to the idea that we will probably have this money, and bring in someone we do not need, like we did Kozak. Maybe we will buy someone of pure quality who can change a game and do something special like Ryad Boudebouz. But alas, I fear that although we can argue that we know what our club needs, maybe Will Hughes, Lambert has his own advisors and own knowledge and we have to trust in his judgement. That is, if he isn't sacked if we lose to palace

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£8m from Lerner. Another piss poor amount from a mean owner. Just who would come to VP with such a tight budget. PL has no chance of securing a "name" to help us forward. We may offload lots of the luggage as mentioned but who is going to buy them, or even be given them?
Lermers ambition has to be questioned!
PL is running to orders and will only be able to buy untried players that we will be critical of after a few games.
£28/30m combined, do me a favour. Who at VP is worth more than a £10 note?
If Lerner does not believe that you need to invest to improve then he should look in the mirror and see just what Scrooge looks like.
Lerner out.

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8 millions decent money for January window! I bet not many other teams will spend that much. We only got 2 million last year so its some sort of improvement

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Maybe too late.

Big Mac

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So glad Lambert is doing so well at the So called bigger club, Norwich fan here feel sorry for you he would have taken us back down last season if you keep him it will be you going down, Still you got what you wished for

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24 Dec 2013 12:23:17
Anyway gents (and perhaps some ladies). Despite our collective depression, I hope you all have a good Christmas.
I've enjoyed the craic with you all over the past year
p. s Kingvilla. Santa Claus doesn't actually exist.
Although it is more likely than some of your posts Sorry to be the one to break it to you mate

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23 Dec 2013 20:42:41
Well reading the news today looks like benteke has played his last game for us, with lambert saying he has gone back to belgium and won't be back until jan 2014 when the transfer window has opened.

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23 Dec 2013 18:06:13
I can't help think back to liverpool last year when we won and how good we were. We passed the ball brilliantly and benteke was absolutely class. But wow how things can change. Benteke this year looks like all he wants is the extra money he got in the new contact and can't be bothered, all we do is lump the ball up field and last year we were one of the only teams in the division that were pretty much guarteed to score in a game this year no one looks like scoring. Gabby and Weimar are also off it so it is not just benteke but the only three that look bothered are delph Westwood and Vlaar no one else looks like they want to be there

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I'm not saying that you are wrong but look at it from a different angle. Imagine you're boss came into you today and offered you a huge wage increase after you had recorded a massive turnover for the company over the past year. You get the rise and that it why you put in the extra hours, so that you get paid more money to support yourself and your family. You know that you are young and have a big future and that other companies want to approach you, you've done your work, why would you do anything to jeopardise getting an even bigger pay packet - you have no loyalty to your company, you work for them and they pay you a wage - no strings attached!

This is similar to the Benteke situation, if you were him would you risk an even more serious injury, when you know that next month you could go to a better team, with better players and a better salary. Or would you stay at a middle of the road team who more often than not gets booed off by their so called loyal fans often unjustly.

We can all pretend that loyalty exists in football nowadays but we're only fooling ourselves, money talks and if you were in the same boat (with no attachment to Villa) you'd do the same thing. Playing or not - the money matters at the end of the day!

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I wouldn't stop trying just because I'm being payed more. What's the point? All it's doing is showing that you have a bad attitude and other clubs won't like that. Why would any team want him when he's in the form he is at the moment? he's done just what papiss cisse and jelavic did. You can put him not scoring down to our midfield but he managed it last year. So no I definately wouldn't do the same

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23 Dec 2013 12:01:05
what do you think lambert will say if we lose to palace on thursday!? I don't think he deserves all the blame as he can only work with cheap crap buys so if he got the sack who ever came in it would be the same. i'd say lerner sell up or invest its not like he can't afford it

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I couldn't agree more mate, Lambert is one of the best young managers in the league. Give him a bit of cash he will do well, if he's not given any money then he will do us proud, he'll just need more time like Moyes did at Goodison!

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Lambert will give the same interview; win, lose or draw against Palace. We were excellent, unlucky, deserved more, blah, blah, blah - everyone believed me incuded that he would come in and turn our fortunes round; 18 months in and I am not convinced. VTID AGD

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22 Dec 2013 19:47:18
Yes, we lacked a few players, but do you really think with those few players we would have fared any better. Our style of football means that we try to absorb pressure and then counter attack. That is all good and well away, at home however no. Lambert has no plan B, and plan A doesn't always work. Maybe AVB would not fare any better, but I think we need someone new to take us further.

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Yes someone new may take us forward but they will require money to buy and money to pay players.
PL is doing what he is told
Cheap buys for him to develop and then possibly sell on and low wages.
It could be argued that his buys are not impressive but we don't know how many players have rejected approaches from Villa.
Our major area of weakness is at the back. Clark is always out of place, pointing waving but not challenging his man. Baker suffers from Clark being in the wrong place and now is low on confidence.
PL knew the size of the task when he took over and to the best of his ability he is doing what he was asked. However, being Villa supporters we are not impressed with the results.
Lerner is very mean and believes that you can run a prem. team and make a profit. What a joke!
Owning a prem. team is about pride and passion not profit.
As supporters we have the pride and the passion, Lerner does not. Until he acts as a Villa supporter, not an owner, we will continue in the way that he has instructed PL.
Lerner may appear to be a benevolent man, donations to Acorns, but this is for his own self esteem not my Aston Villa.
PL will fight on with what he has got and until Lerner sells we will have to settle for little more than Div 1 standards.
Lerner out, ASAP.

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Personally I don't understand why lamberts receiving all the criticism, I'd direct that at our chairman for not putting his hand in his pocket for the past couple of years.
Finch

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It's true that Lerner is largely culpable
However, Lambert is a poor coach and manager
Other teams have achieved more with lower budgets
I would venture that Everton, over the past few years, have a net spend comparable to ours. The difference is that they have had the benefit of good management
Let's not forget, we have spent nearly £20 million on players this season

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Got to agree with Mendax, I think PL is more suited to a lower league team but not prem manager villajk

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Hi Mendax,
Everton have achieved better league standings than Villa with good management but look at what is happening now. Moyes has gone and MUFC are not what they should be and a manager from a relegated club is moving Everton forward. They are a club run properly from the top. Interesting that Martinez rejected Lerners approach, was he aware of something that we are now fully aware of in terms of cash? There is no doubt that Lerner is holding PL up in development terms by not funding players that we need, and I don't think we have seen the best of PL. He was a hero at Carrow Rd and he got them playing attractive football so where has it gone wrong at VP?
The expectations we have of AVFC are way above what is achievable on the miserly funding that Lerner is allowing PL to spend.
Lerner out ASAP

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Personally, when O'Neil left I wished Lerner had gone with him, as well as Faulkner. Yes no-one could know what would happen to Houllier and I wish GH all the best, but Mcleish was awful and although I respect Lambert, he has one plan, and if that doesn't work, we're sunk. Yes it may only be speculation but I do hope Red Bull come in and purchase us, supposedly with Houllier in charge. Whatever the outcome of this season, the politics do not matter to me that much, I love Villa, I always will. And that is all that matters

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Hi Mate
I was including the current manager when I said Everton were well managed
I was also including their board. The place has been run, top to bottom on meagre amounts in terms of transfer funds
Swansea are exactly the same

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As said above Norwich were playing some decent stuff when Lambert was at carrow road, I was sat in the stands on McLeish's last match calling for Lambert to come to us and would still back him to be honest. The job is a tough one as he's had to strip it all back and start again. Fans are fickle and demand results here an now but I see it as a long term thing and don't think he'll get the chop.
We need a couple/few quality signings in January our midfield has completely collapsed players like Westwood and sylla haven't reproduced any good form, KEA isn't aprem player, tonev is nowhere near prem standard (yet) and Delph is a bit hit and miss.
As it stands I'd bring grealish back and play with him and Albrighton on either wing and play gabby and kozak up top dropping weiman (another poor performer) to the bench.

Midfield maestro and general needed randy! Show us some ambition.

Ramble over

Finch

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22 Dec 2013 12:57:14
I'm so ridiculously annoyed at Lambert. For once he has to realise that he's ****ed up. Saying that "we deserved to win" is not good enough seeing as we can't score consistently. Helenius needs to play. We need to actually play good football and I think that Lambert should leave. Bring in AVB please, his record is undeniably brilliant and it was ridiculous that he was sacked from Spurs. He had a better record at Chelsea then Di Matteo. We have the capability to play nice football. If he loses to Palace he should be sacked, that way someone else can come in and then buy some players that we need. WE ARE A HUGE CLUB, and deserve to be in the top 8 at least. Unless Lerner wants us to get relegated he needs to make a change or leave, he needs to spend some money on decent players, not more unproved players. We had a chance to build a decent team, we have a team that will be ready in a couple years, but right now we have on-one other than possibly Delph, Vlaar and Guzan. We need some good players like Will Hughes as well as good experienced heads like ANYONE

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I couldn't agree more, lad. Villas-Boas is the best option for Aston Villa right now. He is young, but he has 15 years of managerial experience. I don't care if he has never played professional football before and I don't care that he was sacked from Chelsea and Tottenham, I still think that he is a very good manager.

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22 Dec 2013 16:57:12
Players out for game against stoke benteke vlaar agbonlahor
okere nzogbia! Do not think avb could do any better then what happened yesterday! Lambert reqiures 3 quality signings to add to his squad, we are barebonee at the moment but rstarting again with another manager will be ridicouls imo!

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Stoke had 4out

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Of course Villas-Boas would do better than Lambert.

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Lambert is overrated by in villa fans yes but villas boas in completely overrated and I would hate him here. He was given 100 million pounds at spurs and left when they were only a few points up so what good would he be here. If we are going to sack lambert (which will not happen because Lerner sees him to be bringing the team upwards) we would need someone like glen hoddle

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Just to make people aware avb has planned to retire from management in a couple of years anyways.
Finch

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We need Glen Hoddle villajk

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Or Roberto Di Matteo.

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21 Dec 2013 23:54:20
What annoys me is LAMBERTS after match interview. every week the same we were excellent BLAH, BLAH BLAH, the guy is now different planet. What a sad sight our club has become. AGD

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22 Dec 2013 11:03:42
I don`t know about you, but if I was Helenius sat on the bench watching the rubbish being turfed out by Villa at the moment and not even getting a glance let alone a run out I would want OUT.

This guy will be a very good player for whoever gives him the chance, If PL can not see this he is blind to football.

Another talent going to waste again.

It seems to me If you can kick someone up in the air, bang a ball 50 yards without it touching the floor, and give the opposing team the ball every 30 seconds to keep them happy, then you are Lamberts type of player.

Sorry but I have lost all faith in this current Villa revolution.

Villadave

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21 Dec 2013 21:36:59
Interesting comment from lambert tonight saying bent eke won't make boxing day match because of a so called injury, more like he doesn't want him to get injured before january window opens and a possible move away, villa must think we are all gullible persons.

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21 Dec 2013 17:24:37
I can't watch this anymore. Lambert is a good manager, no doubt about it, but I don't like his style of football. I want to watch flowing football, not pathetic long balls hoping for someone to tap it in, like our goal today.

We need a creative midfielder, defense is okay, with vlaar and okore, our midfield needs to be able to connect the two

VTID

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Absolutely dire. Dismal performance.

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Hi all.

Lamberts face on the touchline says it all.
I have said before he doe`s not have a plan B.
The tackles our team are making are RASH & RECKLESS, all down to lack of guidance and frustration.
We make no more than a couple of passes before giving the ball away, we look poor up front now, the list goes on.
I said last week PL is close to the door, Christmas and new year might see him kicked out of it!!

Villadave

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21 Dec 2013 17:17:56
Paul Lambert must be sacked now. Today was his third straight loss (against a poor team). Lambert is just not good enough for Aston Villa, never has been. I am surprised that he even became manager of Aston Villa in the first place. Mister Lerner, appoint Villas-Boas instead, who is much better than Lambert.

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PL if he had any dignity you would resign, never seen a team this bad at villa if you played good football and lost I could take that, but the football is boring I will pick on 1 player it could be any player you bought, Bowery Kidderminster Harries are his level. FED UP

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Agreed if lerner doesn't give him the boot now he is obviously madly in love with him

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Do me a favour Villa Boas? Sacked from 2 clubs, what more can one say.

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Personally he's not the man for the job but he's the best we have at the minute, I wouldn't blame him for the way we are playing we just ain't got the players to play any other way, we are a very poor team at minute who got lucky first handful games, but soon as the defence fell apart we showed we are poor.

we need a cb and at least 2 strong ball winners in midfield I think. maybe even a half decent winger to go other side of gabby

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Hoddle can't think of anyone better he would have to clear all lamberts buys out, probable get 4million plus benteckers and, he would take the job

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Okay. What about Guus Hiddink, Frank Rijkaard or Neil Lennon?

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When you say PL has not got the players, these are all his players, the money spent on the cheap imports would have have been better spent on 2 class proven players and in reply what about hiddink, rijkaard. do you think they would take the job and please no more Scottish managers

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About the players I know they are his but they are just not good enough, I know they was his choice but he's made the wrong choice, if he's not going buy 2-3 big names that will make a diffence to this team we are screwed. and as managers go why do people rate lennon? he's won the league in a country of 2 teams 1 of which has been relegated to the lowest league. if that man didn't win the league with celtic he would be worse than lambert

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Posters are listing proven managers as options. Why would any quality manager come to VP with Lerner at the helm? PL has had limited money to invest and even less to pay players. No wonder we have so many wannabies and not proven winners.

Without Vlaar we are easy pickings to any team that can kick a ball. The great shame is that Okores sustained an injury that will take some time to put right, had he been fit then we may not be in the situation we find at present.

The reallity is that we are exactly where we were at this period last year and the next 2 games are vital. Win and we improve, lose and we could be bottom 3.

At the front Benteke is letting us down, his head was turned in the summer and his apparent attitude is disgraceful, but remember all he gets are long balls to chase. Most of the players are dispirited and lack motivation.

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That is why I suggested that Lerner should appoint Andre Villas-Boas.

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21 Dec 2013 16:59:04
Lambert what a p*ss poor manager you really are, you stand there on the touchline with a totally blank look cause you don't know what to do to change the game. do us all a favour and p*ssoff back to norwich before its too late for us.

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Nah we've got a better manager now thanks

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21 Dec 2013 14:54:44
the team looks poor especially PL buys and all the bench are PL buys were is Gary Gardener there is no one on that bench better than him,

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21 Dec 2013 14:41:09
Always interesting to note how the teams performance reflects on the postings by supporters.
Today possibly the most critical match of the season. Lose and we are down with the struggle, win and we make a break towards the top half.
Even a draw would be acceptable as 1 pt could keep us above the struggle.
We have Palace next match and they are improving rapidly so we may settle for 1 pt there.
This is a vital period before the New Year and we need a minimum of 3 points from the next 3 games and if this does not happen we will be looking over our shoulders for the next few weeks.

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If we get only 3 points from the next 3 games, we are definitely in trouble
We are a dreadful side

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Hi Mendax, we are in the proverbial. Today has dragged us into a dog fight and only other results make us look better than we really are. Without Vlaar we haven't got a chance and PL will have to buy another rock solid C/b if we are to continue in the prem.

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I think it's going to take a lot more than Vlaar coming back mate
My own prescription would be a decent manager with a few quid to spend in January on 3 to 4 top class players
We're going down if we stay with Lambert

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19 Dec 2013 19:19:23
personally for me in the next month (jan window) if I was in charge and he's not already done it, I would be on the phone to all the top prem teams asking whos for loan,

Eg players like lescott, milner, dzeko, rodwell, richards and jovetic (not sure if any are injured) from city ain't being used much see if we can get them a few months worth (might cost us some but might help)

or from utd young (boo hiss), anderson, zaha, hernandez.

i think we really need a CB to strengthen up the back when vlaar is out and maybe a strong midfielder or two. bit help up top take weight off bentekes shoulders. may seem as I've spent too much time on footy manager but just my thoughts

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19 Dec 2013 17:52:17
Do not know why people are calling for Lambert out and a new center back. Lambert is doing a good job we are mid table I would be happy with that finish at the end of the season. We are restoring the quality of the team and he has us in a better position than last year and the year before that. And a center back! Are u mad! Just because we conceded 3 against one of the best teams in the world doesn't mean we need a new center back. We have one out injuried and one on the verge of coming back Saturday. We have kept more clean sheets so far this year at this point than we have for a long time. We are doing fine and don't need to change anything. Don't worry about Benteke he will be back to his best very soon if Albrighton keeps playing.

Keep the faith!
UTV!

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Are you serious? We are incredibly lucky we picked up points at the start of the season because we are not getting better in fact we are getting worse. Teams know what benteke does and how we play. To say Manchester United are one of the best teams in the world is crazy because if we beat them we would have been level and we certainly do need a center back because baker is the worst player in the premier league

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How were we lucky they were hard fought wins. Teams might know about Benteke but he can still get space and with the right service he will score goals. And United are one of the best teams in the world they might of had a bad start to the season but they will always be up there. One bad season doesn't man united are s**t. Baker is a quality center half he puts his body in where it hurts. And it might of been his fault for one of the goals but he ain't the only one to mess up this season. Also, if u were a true fan u would be supporting the team and supporting Lamberts decisions and not criticising his every move. We ain't in a relegation fight we are a comfortable mid table team and we don't need improving in center back position.
KEEP THE FAITH!

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Given hutton bent neeed to go leaves our squad guzan, steer, lowton, herd, vlaar, clarke, okere, baker, luna, bennet, baccuna, albrighton, westwood, gardner, delph, kea, sylla, tonev, nzogbia, helinus, bowrey, agbonlahor, weiman, kozac, benteke.

if the top 3 go I would get in another right back, push herd in to midfeild to compete with sylla, sell and replace kea and bowrey and that would definatley set us up for next summer.

I do not think we are in a bad shape as all are making out to be!

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So your saying we don't need a center back when our hole team collapses when we lose vlaar

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The team didn't collapse because we were missing Vlaar it was because we neede a proper leader. Gabby don't talk to the players that much but Vlaar does. A leader can come from any position doesn't have to be a center back but we need someone to talk.

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16 Dec 2013 21:50:13
I would like to see a hard as nails C/B poss. from the lower divisions who wants to take his chance. don't know who but there are some guys down there who are better than the back 4 that we have.
Given that PL cannot spend much money he could pick up a real C/B for little money.
He has nothing to lose, what is there already is crap so whatever he got would be better.
Bradford worked us over last season and showed us how to defend and attack. Players do come from lower leagues and perform Lambert, Rodrigues etc.
If all else fails I am bringing my old Moms boots with me and she should get a game, then you will see hard as nails. (Not really)

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Spot on mate.

I hope you can remember these
We need someone like :

Dick Edwards
Alan Evans
Ken McNaught

Hard and Honest players and proud
of the shirt.
Hard to find I am sorry to say

Villadave

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Dave they are there but don't have a pedigree.
I can go beyond the three you name but that is more history.
If PL just went out and looked in Div 1 & 2 he could pick up a bargain and if they don't succeed nothing is lost.
Price would be 250k and the players would be able to say that they played for a prem. team.
No compromise and no prisoners, all or nothing.
Sorry to say that if improvement doesn't come then I will vote with my feet. Not a new action but if 30% of us did the same then Lerner might see for himself how we feel.
30% off the gate money would be quite a large hole in his budget.
My thoughts LERNER OUT!

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Lambert a been doing this since he took over, bringing players from lower division's. Westwood, lowton for example and all we do about that is complain!

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16 Dec 2013 14:21:22
Lets be serious here, we all love Villa, we wouldn't be on this site if we didn't. I think we all agree that watching Villa at the moment is not enjoyable. We can pick apart every players problems and I'm sure many of you do. But let's face it, players are directed by a manager and if that manager says we will play the ball back and then hoof it up, they will do. I respect Lambert and what he has done, last seasn he set up a young team you on the counter were destructive. But now teams have worked this out, and it's unbearable to watch at home. Lambert has set the foundations but I feel his time is up. All I want is too watch Villa play football which not only looks good, but actually causes damage. We do havegood players even if they're not recognised as such. Both Westwood and Delph have the capability to be top midfielders. Wiemann is good for his age and I hope that he fulfill his potential. Okore is world class already as is Vlaar. Guzan, although weak on his right side, is one of the best in the league. And we have plenty others as well. Why we bought Kozak I don't know, they guy is Premiership standard, but we have Benteke (or we do for now). We need a change in style of play r at least a plan B. WE NEED SOME CREATIVITY MOST. Money must be spend in January, if Lerner doesn't want banners and protests, he must make a decision this week. Even under Mcleish we had a plan B, it was Heskey but still. If Gardnercan give us creativity, or Albrghton then great, but I don't want to become Stoke and just hoof it up

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We need Lerner out, the sooner the better.
Deadly was tight but when the chips were down he prised his purse open and found the money.
Some managers abused this system and we ended up with a few millionaires on the pitch.
But if Lerner wants to avoid the banner wavers he had better dig deep and give PL the chance to prove that he can do the job.
Sorry Randy you are not my favourite uncle and you ain't getting a Christmas card.
Stay across the pond and let us have our AVFC back. You came to grab our history because there is none over there!

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17 Dec 2013 14:54:24
Very true, we need a man who can play a killer ball from midfield, definitely the missing link, we are going nowhere otherwise.

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15 Dec 2013 15:35:41
Got to say we have an amazing talent in making poor sides look like world beaters, and before you lot start man u are an average side this season. we can't even string together 2 decent forward passes. albrighton was the only one who looked decent today, benteke what can you say, useless no threat what so ever, he needs to play with the second string for awhile because he contributes nothing at all. if lambert doesn't buy a decent c/half and midfielder he needs to hope someone will buy him a gardening tool, just incase he joins clarke from the baggies.

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Totally agree with your point about us making poor sides look like world beaters
Fulham have lost 7 out of 8. The only time they looked like a decent side was against us
In Lambert we trust? I don't think so.
All this nonsense about him constructing some project basted on the Dortmund model is just that. Nonsense

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Totally lost for words once more.

We have not got a midfield at all. Back four are just LOST.
Up front we are clueless.

All might sound harsh but I have got to say it as it is.

PL has not got a plan B and never has had.

I was like everyone before the season started very excited and hopeful but sorry not any more.

I would not be surprised at all if we have got a new manager come the start of the new season, if not sooner.

I love our club very much, but let's get real here, WE ARE A POOR SIDE

Villadave

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Can we fully blame PL?
He is not given sufficient funds to buy quality, hence he is hunting in the European leagues.

PL is following instructions from Lerner via Faulkner.

Not only is he handcuffed but he is constantly in the dark, although he denies this point, so he cannot go and do what he wants to do. He took the role of manager of our AVFC believing that he could do the job on a very strict budget.
He massively supports his players, he has no choice, but injuries seem to beset his plans. Before Vlaar was injured the team performed well, an injury and we collapse.
Remember last year around this time when everything went tits up? Well that is where we are again but with a few more points.
Hopefully Vlaar & Ocores will be back soon and improvement will follow but probably the one thing that would help our Aston Villa is for Lerner to sell up and let us have an owner with bottomless pockets as until then we are not going to compete at the top.

Perhaps if PL is able to get that one player that can control on the pitch we will start to look like a football team. And don't say one man can't make the difference. Ask Spuds without Bale, ask Fulham now Berbatrov has decided to perform.

A player with a little bit of real class can be a magician and we need some magic.

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I agree with some of what you say but why buy 6 players for 2m each when you could buy 1 good proven player for 10m attacking midfield, and don`t forget Barry was available for a loan, only wages

Midfield is the engine room is it not, if we improve there we will improve at the back and up front.

GIVE HELENIUS A RUN IN THE SIDE
MR LAMBERT, A/M FOR 10 GAMES.

Try something else Gardener for AEK

Villadave

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Unbelievable, Fulham spent something like £25m on couple of players, Lamberts budget for season is £12m, get a grip.

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If you are trying to say we shouldn't expect to be doing better than Fulham, things are even more depressing than I thought
Who were the these 12 million signings that Fulham made by the way?

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For months I have been posting that one good midfield signing could change our season but have been blasted by other posters.
As I posted "ask Spuds about Bale". They have spent heavily but no Bale no goals lots of problems.
If Bale was still there he would have turned a few into the net.
Delph is one of our hopes but he needs the help of an older head to direct the game. Westwood is lightwieght, as is Lowton. The rest in the middle and back are really crap.
Vlaar & Ocores are needed right now, no question.
Incidently Ocores was listed as one of the best buys pre season by a well known reporter. Let us see.

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Forgot to add to my last post, I am a great Barry fan and have said so frequently. The father figure needed at B6.

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One player where we have the most pressing need (central midfield) would make some difference. But, let's be honest, we are poor all over the pitch
We need 3 to 4 in my opinion

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Let us see okore? he's out for the season!

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I agree Mendax, 3 or 4 at least.

Midfield is paramount, we have won most of our games bypassing midfield.
We need some control in the middle of the park and pass through sides, and be able to change our pattern without having to bring on subs to achieve this.

Villadave

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15 Dec 2013 15:24:16
Benteke turning into another Papisse Cisse?

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15 Dec 2013 15:23:54
Senseless, clueless, useless. I can't think of anything better to say about this abject performance. Albrighton was the bright spot but the rest, what can one say.
Luna's moon is in descent,
Clark is still waiting while his man is scoring.
Sorry guys but this looks like a repeat of the reallity of last season and we are due for Christmas stuffing.
PL must be a worried man and unless Lerner ( the invisible man) opens his purse I think we should all be worried.
The defence is a shambles, midfield lacking idea, front line need introducing to each other.
The sooner Benteke departs the better, then we can try to find someone that wants to be at VP.

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Agree but would you trust pl to spend on a real player, only seems to buy inferior players ie7mil for kozac a waste

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I don't agree 7 mil for Kazakh was a waste he's doing better than benteke.

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15 Dec 2013 14:35:22
do us all a favor and drop baker lambert

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And Clarke. Absolute shocking pair of CB's today. Not even Championship standard on todays performance.
V70LLA

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Who can he play instead? Clarke is always hailing a taxi, arm in the air waving. Baker might be ok for a lower league team but sorry not the prem.
Too many games have seen Guzan telling the defence what to do, surely they should know already.

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14 Dec 2013 22:16:17
Good luck tomorrow guys. score first and the Manchester United will capitulate. then you will be above them.

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14 Dec 2013 16:41:22
I think we should try for Ryan Bertrand from Chelsea on loan and spend £10 million getting Will Hughes from Derby 2 great players AVFC forever

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Agree villajk

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Bertrand isn't a good player and will Hughes is quality but many top teams are going for him so I don't think that is a possibility

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Lerner donates 1 million to acorns anything is a possibility! salute you mr lener! top man!

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11 Dec 2013 21:14:04
with all that's going on at the cub I can cope with the losses, I can cope with the poor shows and I can live with the piss poor attempts at big transfers. but the one thing that hurts the most after near 30 years of support for this club is trying to explain to my kids that it was once actually a decent team and we believe it or not was one the best in the league (they laugh when I say this)

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To be fair on your kids, you nearly had me laughing there mate
And I'm old old enough to remember those days too

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The last time we were a decent side was in the 1800's but i'm not that old to remember it ha! ha!

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Ok maybe not one the best but we was top 4 or 5 at least

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Remember 80/81/82. We should have moved on up and be where MUFC are at present but some one upset Ron Saunders and he walked.
We went and beat B/Munich with Tony Barton at the helm, but he wasn't Ron Saunders.
Ron was probably the best manager AVFC have ever had, and I have been a supporter since 1946. I've seen em come and seen em go and I expect to see some more go and come.

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11 Dec 2013 16:33:43
With Benteke's lack of form can anyone see him leaving in January, personally I think he's vastly over rated and is beginning to be found out by other clubs now

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Messi and Rondaldo would struggle to score with our midfield providing service for them
Benteke is a class act, and when he inevitably goes to a club with quality in the centre and out wide, he will flourish

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To true

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Big Ben will go to Chelsea as they see him as the new Drogba.

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11 Dec 2013 09:32:45
to say we are less than a month away from transfer window we are linked with nobody really so what can we expect bargin and basement buys I reckon, we have players out on loan that should be sold even for a loss ie Ireland bent given and a few more so we can get in a better grade of player I think we should be going for the likes of ;defoe, mcgeady, guidetti, rodwell, kaboul, adam, lescot, to name just a few i'm not saying these are great players but they would improve our squad they wouldn't be over priced either, we are buying young squad players from Europe that take to long to settle in

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PL is trying to get Grant Holt from Wigan, only problem their is Holt will not move south again, He left Norwich to be closer to his family

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Would love to see us go back in for Kiyotake but 10m is about 9m too much for randys liking. Expect a couple more unknown quantities and hope for the best. seems to be the status quo nowadays.
Finch

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Championship quality players that's all we are getting folks

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A downmarket newspaper state that Villa are considering a move for Jurgen Locrdia to replace Benteke who will jump ship in January. No supply route, hence no goals.

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10 Dec 2013 12:38:06
De Bruyne & Dembele anyone? Given we can clear some deadwood out in January

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What kind of funds do you think we really possess, very disillusioned

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To say we don't have the funds is ludicrous. Lerner has the funds, just unwilling to spend them, hopefully he will see we need this and will pay out

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If he is unwilling to invest in the club I would say that the club doesn't have these funds yes

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Hopefully Lerner will sell to a buyer that wants a successful club.

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09 Dec 2013 14:31:41
I'm sorry but I'm fed with watching our team playing long balls as we have no link between midfield and attack. We have an manager who constantly says that "we will pick ourselves up again", I don't want that, I want us to be a team that others fear, we have a much better drilled defense, midfield is okay at best (other than Delph who is our MVP), and we all know that our attack is unbelievable when at its best, but we have no decent creative player who can take on a man and or play a killer pass. Why I pay for a season ticket to watch us play counter attacking football AT HOME is bordering on crazy. I love Villa, don't get me wrong, but we need someone needs to grow some balls in management and spend some money on someone who could make us a team to be threatened by. We need, our Mata/Cazorla/Ozil.

Please Randy, realise we need this

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Agreed, we need someone who can change the game, who can do something special

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PL. Needs to drop wieman and play Helenius in a link roll in midfield.

It would take a little time but I think he can play an attacking midfield roll

And as I have said before I really believe he would become a force, he can play wide as well, give him a free roll and a good run in the side.

If not he will be gone, and you will see him playing champions league for some other outfit.

villadave

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Agreed, Helenius is technically superb, and the last time he played, almost set up a goal in the minutes that he was on. Weimann is still young just need to perfect his game, but we already know Helenius has potential, as shown by Madrid's interest for their B side

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I don't know what peope see in helenius. He isn't much of a player and I don't get what everyone thinks is so special about a player we bought for £2 million

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09 Dec 2013 03:48:02
Just herd a rumor that pl is trying to sign up jonney wilkinson as he needs someone who can hit a accurate punt up the pitch to benteke. # bloody joke.

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Your most believable post to date kingy!

Finch

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08 Dec 2013 15:36:57
What a total load of rubbish. A below average side showed another very poor side how to defend. Vlaar would not have made any difference to the team. Berbatov demonstrated the need for an older and wiser brain, flicks, touches and the ability to change play. Fulham had us in their pockets and simply stopped the forwards from playing. Two pens, both wrong, made sure that the game ended 2-0, but where are Villa to go from here?
Defensive deficiency was obvious and lack of attacking idea was more than obvious.
Thank goodness we have points on the board because another performance like this would start a panic.
The overall performance can only be excused by the result last Wednesday.
PL must get another C/B and midfield controller in the next window.

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Poor side, luck runs out eventually, said our midfield is poorest in the prem, just to see a player like Berbatov play for villa would be great I know he can be lazy but skill and a football brain what the younger players could learn from him on his day, villajk

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A MIDFIELDER? we need a whole new centerline. once in a while delph shows he's an ok player same with westwood but never good enough or the players we need to look like a decent team anymore

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Poor today very poor, why they keep insisting on westwood taking free kicks and corners I will never know he kid can't cross a ball at all. benteke as lost all touch and movement, weiman needs to be dropped as he doesn't contribute at all, there is only gabby worth his place. if lambert doesn't bring in a decent midfield player and centre half we are in trouble like last year. its now only a matter of time before someone sticks another 8 passed us

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Hi all.

Sorry I have not been posting for a while had a few probs I needed to sort.

I must say I have to agree with you guys above, we are very poor at the moment.
I just can`t believe how poor we are, no midfield at all, and as for passing the ball "dreadful".

I am lost for words to be honest.

Villadave

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We have to be the worst time in the league when in possession of the ball
A shocking performance. We made a very ordinary team look like world beaters

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Totally depressed after watching that today. No one who could pass a ball one idea and dimension and that's pump it long to the big man who is totally out of form and needs dropping along with half the team. Only gabbyof the front men worthy of his place. And can anyone tell me why helenius has not been give a go and run in the team. can't do any worse than the boys with the shirt at mo. We are so in need of a few playersin jan. I think one in each spine position is needed. Any thoughts guys.

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A bit worrying to see our midfield flop once again. Westwood needs dropping now.
Finch

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What we actually need is one of at least two options.
1) Lambert tells Lerner the truth and walks away as he is not being supported from above.
2) Lerner sells and we get an owner that will give Lambert the money to buy some real players.
Personally option 2 would be my preferred route as I think that Lambert is working with his hands tied behind his back. Limited funds, an invisible owner and a team that would struggle in the champs. Please note I state would not will as I believe we are able to move forward.
Big Ben is out of sorts and teams are able to cope with him following his amazing start last season: he is still a star striker, just needs a couple to go in and he will fire up.
As for the defence.
What a laugh. Baker, Clarke, Herd et al. If they were any good offers for them would have been flooding through the doors for their services.
Midfield.
Another joke. Delph works hard but the rest are lightwieght and not fit for purpose. No balls, no or little ability.
Strikers.
Even at his advanced years Arthur Scargill is still better. Where is Helenius, why did we buy him?
Was it rumoured that Barca or someone were interested in him?
So many questions and no answers!

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Poor doesn't describe it. It was beyond awful. We wouldn't have beat a championship team with a performance like that. Why the hell does he STILL think bacuna can play right back when Lowton is a complete class above and also offers a quality ball into the area. His team selection is completly awful. He tries to play the same against the top teams as the bottom teams and for me we are getting worse not better. Look at our performance against Arsenal opening game and we were outstanding and had every fans hope up but this is about the fifth or sixth absolutly diabolacal performance. Sort it out or get out and stop sticking up for the team and making up excuses after every terrible performance!

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07 Dec 2013 00:01:38
3 points Sunday and I think we could finish around the European places if not get a place, the only problem I would have with that is our squad is so small, we need to start getting the best out of Big Ben, I think there will be a lot of activity in the summer transfer window, with Ireland getting games with stoke hopefully buying him and we can recoup some of what we paid, hopefully bent will get the finger out and Fulham will take him with them when they go down, but for this comeing window I think PL will address left back and centre midfield I'm not putting any names out there because u can never second guess PL

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Irelands contract expires in the summer anyway

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How about three points Sunday and an appearance for Helenius. If benteke was anyone else he would have been dropped for this game to give him a kick up the a**. Put helenius on the bench and give him some minutes on the pitch against a poor Fulham side

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07 Dec 2013 18:50:17
Topsy Turvy season thus far. Some very poor performances such as Sunderland, Cardiff, Everton and Spurs games at home. Away has been tactically very pleasing on the whole but games such as Hull and West Ham were of the ilk of the Sunderland game.

I think we will be somewhere between 9th and 13th, safe from relegation worry and hopefully becoming more cohesive and convincing, particularly against bottom half teams where we can out play and beat them convincingly.

Let us not get carried away with the good or bad results, but aside from getting Benteke firing we need to show some creative 'pazzaz' at home. A creative attacking midfielder is a must in January and perhaps a 4-5-1 at home. Dropping Gabby is tough but with a more packed midfield we could control games better.

Tomorrow I think 1-1.

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Dropping Gabby would be crazy drop KEA and Westwood and get some class midfielders

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How about some wingers in the january sales? we should be playing to the strength of bentekkers and kozac

finch

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We're not going to finish Europe. Fact. But we could easily finish top half with a signing or two in January. I just think people get a bit carried after every game we win. I'm not by any means a downer but I'm just realistic. But I am glad at the league postion and it makes me even more glad to see west brom where they are.

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Once Gardeners fully fit i'd love to see him given a proper chance see what he can really do!

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I agree when fit give Gardner a run villajk

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Oh so many have been posting on here that we need experience in the middle of the pitch. We missed the man that would have done the job perfectly, he went to Everton and is doing the role that we wanted.
Barry played every position that he was asked when he came to Villa and was so versatile he would probably have played in goal. I don't regard him as a pariah for wanting some glory and a bigger pay packet, we would all have done this given the opportunity.
How much will PL have to pay to get a player of this quality in January? I don't care what his name is, but until we get the man in the middle with imagination and experience we will not see the full potential of PL's buys.

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06 Dec 2013 16:05:35
Generally speaking I think there are too many "minute silence" tributes before games these days
However, I'd be hugely disappointed if there wasn't one tomorrow for Mandela

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Why is there too many minute silence, why should their be a limit. its paying your respect to someone who has passed away

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You're absolutely right. Let's have a minute silence for everyone on the planet of 8 billion who dies this weekend
If we have time, after we read all the names out, we can fit a game in as well

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show some respect. The people that get a minutes silence have all been influencial

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If they contributed to football why should they not be acknowledged?

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I think Mendax is being very cynical, and dis-respectful, we don't really need comments like that.

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My first point was that if there was ever a time to have a minute silence, it is now. I'm not trying to insult anyone who receives or has ever received any kind of recognition
My 2nd point was about in response to the guy who said " why should there be a limit" where I was merely pointing out, albeit a little sarcastically, that it is simply not practical to honour everyone
If you don't agree, fine, but please don't lecture me on respect as that is not the issue
The real issue is that the world, not just the football world, has lost a man of huge integrity and significance and I am glad to now hear that he will be honoured

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I usually agree with what you have to say on this site but you are chatting utter garbage, If a club feels they should pay their respect to someone who has influenced them then why shouldn't they? Even it happens every single game I don't see the problem

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I'll confess to cynical but not to disrespectful
Of course there are times when some kind of show of respect is appropriate. However, if you do it every game you diminish the significance and it just becomes an insincere gesture. That is hugely disrespectful and certainly not something I would want for anybody I hold dear
If that is a "disrespectful" view then I guess I'm guilty

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Maybe mandela deserved 2minutes silence?
I think its a bit silly that every week there's a minutes silence for someone and would agree with mendax

finch

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05 Dec 2013 15:22:17
Fans moaning about how there isn't improvement need to stop being so fickle an look at the bigger picture, 10th in the league 3 points of Man united. I know its only 14 games into the season but surely we can all see the development in the side? another couple of seasons with better backing from Randy who knows what could happend

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The key bit here is "with better backing from Randy". Is that really going to happen?
I doubt it personally
As for the development of the team? Have we really developed in the way we play. really?
Granted, we are a bit better at defending but the football is long ball and very little else
We've not developed an attractive, or even recognisable, pattern of play
Happy about the league position though

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05 Dec 2013 10:36:00
When We finally decided we could put in a decent ball we scored, didn't think it would be el ahmadi who crossed it thought he only passed backwards

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He is looking much better this season hey

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Dont think he could play any worse than what he did last season

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He is poor so is Westwood we are poor side but we seem to lucky. S, Davis looked good another Mon give away

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06 Dec 2013 20:40:23
westwood and el ahmadi poor? get real.

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I think its that long since you have seen a good midfielder you think poor is good, who do you think are good midfielders?I don't mean at Villa because Delph just cuts it and a fit Gardner would have

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They are poor, they may have scored recently but our midfielders are some of, if not the poorest in the premier league barring delph

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True villajk

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04 Dec 2013 21:45:28
3 shots 3 goals, are you taking the P*s? and weiman should've been sent off, I don't know how you managed that with less than 30% possession

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Never a red card. It was late but that is all Not high, not two -footed, not out of control. Villa had Southampton exactly where they wanted them, chasing the game and making defensive mistakes against a team that are renowned for their counter attacking.

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Its not about possession its about scoring goals brilliant smash and grab lads take no notice of these sour saints fans

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3 shots 3 goals are we taking the POINTS? Yes we are.
An old golf saying is that the scorecard only shows the score and I think that was 3-2 to Villa.
The question that the initial poster should be asking is "why did Southampton not score more?" After all the Villa defence is not what it should be but the ailing S'hampton attack could not get through. Both of the pass's for the goals should have been cut out or at least challenged for before they went in the net. 3 future England strikers, I think not!

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Weimann should have been sent off? Strange how you see this but missed Rodrigues dive at VP last season. He should have gone down the tunnel but instead got the pen. What goes round comes around pal.

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04 Dec 2013 19:20:30
seriously don't understand why pl is playing bacuna rb instead of lowton, lowton is a much better defender and reads the game a lot better, just because bacuna has scored two freekicks. shocking defence choice Southampton will dominate him unfortunately.

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PL miracle how did we win/S. Davies best midfield player on the pitch. 3pints great villajk

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02 Dec 2013 21:45:48
Happy to see John Gregory back in the English game! Good Luck

Dave80

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Total agreement.

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04 Dec 2013 18:14:24
here here

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02 Dec 2013 11:12:16
Great to see John Gregory back into management at crawley town. Top bloke.

Finch

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01 Dec 2013 15:12:42
Hi I hope some person out there saw prince William the future king of England at villa park and understands the prestige of this! and buy this great club, red bulls would do or anybody with buying power, felt sad he had to watch the poor team we have

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Why don't he just put the money in himself. there don't get much richer than his family surely. they would have the money needed down back of sofa

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Show some respect

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Seriously. A state run club in England haha grow up lads. I like our owner. I like our club. Why does everyone want instant success. I'd rather build a project and aim for what Everton did under a solid manager. Then bring in the flair and the money. Monarchy as owners haha, suppose you wouldn't mind Mussolini as first team coach

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Man City are owned by a prince and royalty would not count themselves as being state. despite all their wealth being ours, but more pertinently he looked bored as hell, he likes rugby and was told to support Villa by some adviser

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I think you'll find that this could never happen
It would be impossible for the FA to allow the monarchy, which is funded totally by ALL taxpayers, to use funds that would benefit one set of taxpayers in such a direct and specific way
Hang on a minute. I've just described exactly what is happening with the Olympic stadium and West Ham.

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05 Dec 2013 13:04:55
So what if Prince William and Dave Cameron are Villa fans? Only the elite trying to prove duality with the common man, when nothing could be further from the truth. This sort of celebrity culture has no place in football in my opinion.

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Anyone can be a football supporter. It does not matter if they are the future monarch or the road sweeper. We should be delighted that football brings us all together in support of your football club.

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01 Dec 2013 14:10:03
Is it me or can no one in the villa side put a half decent cross in. to many times I see crosses fail to even beat the first man. it was only until yesterday when albrighton came on (not his biggest fan) that a half decent cross was put in for benteke to attack. with someone like benteke leading the line isn't it common knowledge to have someone who can put decent balls into the area for him to attack.

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Completely agree and that's exactly what I was saying about lowton. he's the only player in the team who can put quality crosses in. Since he's been dropped we have stopped scoring and more importantly so has Big Ben. As I said its no coincidence

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We play with a target man who's arguably one of the best headers in the league and not one player gives him anything in terms of balls in the area to feed off, I would like to see low ton bought back in an bacuna pushed up to right wing

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