Aston Villa Banter Archive April 01 2012 to May 01 2012

01 May 2012 21:58:39
Hi leicester city fan here, what do you villa fans make of heskey coming to us in the summer? have you heard anything?

01 May 2012 14:45:13
McLeish will be given the backing by the board, this time will have 20million to spend. will he know what to do with it though?

Not sure what is going on
i'm worried.is mctwit staying or going
have we covinced ourselves he is going and mctwit has the last laugh with a summer spend
he can have the last laugh as long as it is a payoff for his contract with hutton and grant in tow

01 May 2012 09:54:45
Mcleish is 4th highest payed manager in prem, on 3.5 mil a season.

01 May 2012 02:11:58
Stephen Ireland is set to leave Villa Park at the end of the season, it's rumored villa have accepted a £3million offer from La Galaxy for the midfield. Some rumour's suggest a switch deal with Robbie Keane could be involved aswell.

30 Apr 2012 00:41:14
Owen Hargreaves to Villa, relegated or not.

Twaddle, this guy is permanently injured. Think we have learnt our lesson from Jenas this year

29 Apr 2012 22:39:25
Probably already seen this but there are huge rumours that McLeish is a goner tomorrow.

I think your right but it won't be till after the Norwich game

29 Apr 2012 19:53:46
Gus Poyet will be your new boss next season. When I posted this last night, I said journalists in Sussex were talking about as they are today. It has not been reported in/on any media outlet at the moment because Premiership still has to play out. If I was to give u Journalists names I would be putting them in the doggy do wouldn't I. AS WELL AS MYSELF! Be patient and have a punt...I HAVE!

29 Apr 2012 14:03:43
got a draw and a point but did we not have 9 points to play for with the remaining games we had so why are we playing with 7 defenders on the pitch and only 3 attackers.

hutton cuellar dunne lichaj,warnock,herd,clarke

heskey agbonlahor nzogbia

We will not win a match this way and mcleish sets up the team so negativley no wonder we are where we are

so 2 games left and dont be surprised if we only get 1 more point if that!!


Mr lerner that is what all avfc fans have been saying to you, he is never going to win anything at villa with his approach to the game and also if you wish villa to acheive your next manager has to have a idea to go out and win matches and not settle for a draw even befor the whistle is blown.

28 apr 2012 19:29:22
so we luckily scraped a point against the baggies,cos of a gr8 given save,i think we will avoid the drop this year,but make no mistake,lets face it we were blessed,that mc ginger along with lerner caused this mess.firstly as a villa fan 30 yrs i have seen the highs and lows,but talk about watching a car crash in slow motion,i.e.mc leishs appointment...............lets all as villa fans make a true and meaningful statement,we want mc leish out and learner too,if hes gonna pass any sort of washed up manager such as mc leish is on us,we dodged a championship bullet this season,but if the whole set up dont change we will down end of next season..................................out of villa park jaffacake

I dont think we scraped a point. Gobby should have scored at least one, then Herd, N'Zogbia all had great chances. 30 years a fan. Your only a beginer. You know if you are a Villa supporter you are meant to suffer, the badge says it all "Prepared" For 70 years I have suffered the highs and lows and believe me the old 3rd div. is a painful place to go and watch your team. They will need shin pads as thick as paving slabs!

We were the better team for the majoroty of this match and should have been home & dry a long time before Given great save. Let's give the lads some credit for this one, they battled for 90 minutes and were unlucky only to get a point.

By the way, shame on the ignorant Baggies fans not taking part in the, by now, customary tribute to Stan. You didn't see the villa fans ignoring the tribute to Muamba last Tuesday.

27 Apr 2012 07:50:05
In the S*n this morning we're tracking Paul Lambert whatever happens

Interesting to see Guardiola as quit barca, he has probably seen that mac'cluless is getting sacked in 3 games and sees this as his big chance to manage a bigger club, what do you think ed

I wish

Yes the Sun, which is owned by the Dead N.O.T.W very reliable truthfull paper, Utter Crap,When will us Villa fans ralize,Before he is offered the Job we have to ask to speak to him first, Can you see them saying yes, wake up will you,Besides all that what have we got to offer him that Narwich can't, Can we sell 22000 season tickets to show him that he is loved more here than there, No we are Struggling to sell 18 000 in a good season. They get sell outs at every home game, what do we do they have something like 3000 travell to away games what do we have, no competition forget him he is staying in Norwich

26 apr 2012 17:20:26
were going down were going down were aston villa and were going down! . shame.

No where not !!!!!!!!!!!!1

The last games of:
Blackburn- Spurs away
Wigan-away
Chelsea-away

Bolton-Sunderland-away
Spurs-away
Baggies-home
Stoke-away

Wigan-Newcastle-home
Blackburn-away
Wolves-home

QPR-Chelsea-away
Stoke-home
Man city-away

Villa-Baggies-away
Spurs-home
Norwich-away

So when we look at who everyone has got QPR & blackburn have the hardest run followed by bolton then us with Wigan having the easiet run

So hopefully it'll be QPR & Blackburn going down {Ed002's Note - Perhaps you could all take a shot on this and compare results:

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/predictor/default.stm

Ive got it going to the final day.
QPR and Blackburn gone -

WIGAN 41
VILLA 38
BOLTON 38

QPR 37
BLACKBURN 32
WOLVES 25

26 Apr 2012 10:11:49
Heard a rumour that Randy wants Villa to go down, Has he wants to start over. Is very confident that the club would come straight back up and win something.

What owner would want their club to go down? Only a financial person would want that! Sadly i do think we will go down though, if you look at the old post match interviews with Mcleish while he was at Birmingham, the de ja vu is quite scary, he says the same rubbish, and oh look, down they went...shame.

What a chairman who posted net losses of 54 million from last season!
So with that in mind Lerner wants us to go down give your head a wobble, Prem teams get 90 million for being in the prem with an additional 800k for each place you finish so Lerner would rather get the 30 million a team gets for being relegated
when hes trying to 'balance the books'

25 Apr 2012 21:14:25
Randy,Randy; u call yourself a businessman,Im self employed i know when im loseing money im doing something wrong,Now let me Help you,FIRST;u need people to come threw your gates(not going to happen)SECOND;like any job you need somebody to oversee things ie a manger(you didnt get one of them you got a yes man)THIRD;if you want to make money you have to spend it ie invest(not in heskeys)LAST; you look and listen to the ones that put bread and butter on your table ie the FANS (we told mcginger wasnt good enough for our club you wouldnt listen now we look like we are going down that will cost you a fortune and i really hope it does if we go down,mcginger is on a good wage just to say yes to you,If you havent got the funds to get this club to where it belongs well then sling your hook ill do some maths for you) NOT INVESTING + VERY POOR MANAGER + NO LEADERS ON AND OFF THE PITCH = THE DROP (Like every orther villian my heart droped lastnight when i was watching that rubbish

25 Apr 2012 20:30:53
If Mcleish is pushed out, lots of people are speculating Gus Poyet would be a candidate for the job. also hearing Brett Holman may have a clause saying he won't join if Villa go down, all rumors at the oment.

25 Apr 2012 13:23:51
well done bolton.
toon army

To--er, go back to your own page

He's just raging we relegated him with Barry's strike a few years ago.

25 Apr 2012 12:35:03
games remaining

avfc - wba(a) tot(h) nor (a)
qpr - chelsea(a) stoke (h) man city(a)
wigan - newcastle(h) blackburn (a) wolves (h)
blackburn - tot(a) wigan (h) chelsea (a)

On paper qpr and blacburn have the hardest run in
and to be honest cant see where our next win is coming due to the way we play we need a win!!

If villa win one game were safe or draw two games and we'll survive by the skin of our teeth.

I wonder how much all this is costing mr lerner as it's a 100m just to be in the prem and an additional 800k for each place in the league so abit of a difference 9th last season and 17th this season last season villa would of recieved 107.2m this season if we finish 17th it'll be 100.8m and obviously the gate sales at villa have been down nearly 7k nearly every week

25 Apr 2012 00:42:22
What the hell have these owners done, hey employ a yes man who is now hated more than deserved, they constantly lie saying we are cutting back. If we cut back anymore we will be playing 7 reserves a game and that's if we sign in the summer. I am one of the few fans who has defended the owners the manager and the players, until now. I finally realise these yanks seem to disregard the club I both adore and admire, I care more about the Vila than my future, last season I didn't revise cos we had arsenal and Liverpool, i am at uni, hello i put my future before this club, I care. This is the club I will support but you, mr Lerner mr Faulkner and sadly although you were used mr Mcleish. You have taken my passion, my faith, my money and my time, and you have not only thrown it in my face you have returned at a later time and ****ed me. I hope someone at villa reads this because we are now all against you, there may be quite literally a handful who still stand by you, but the rest of us want you all to leave. Before its said I go to every home game, I attend regular away games and I purchase much merchandise, but I simply must say I don't care now. My passion has been eroded by weathering the storm that has provided the worst season I could have imagined. O and Charles n zogbia for ****s sake pass the ball you greedy ****, when you passed we scored.

Your a fool if you throw away your future because of an institution you have no control over. Do not give up on the books.

Stick to your studies son, you will need your degree in the future. It's obvious that the board and our record breaking manager (fewest home wins) don't care to much about the club and despite reports about Lerner's finances he can obviously afford to wave goodbye to £40m

Stay with learning to write English. Capital letters, punctuation etc, etc. No wonder our nations future, let alone Villa's, looks bleak.

Why are you disagreeing with this obviously clued up fan. Its fans like you that have stopped all villa fans uniting together. This guy goes to university and still makes time to support his club no matter what. Carry on listening to the games in your taxi and watching the players on match of the day you idiot.

24 Apr 2012 23:05:49
After dominating the first half and being extremely unluckly not to be at least two up at half time, we go in for half time and Mcleish has his say. We come back out and are a shadow of the team on the field 15 minutes earlier. What does this say about Mcleish's ability to motivate players ?

24 Apr 2012 22:43:45
Feel for you guys...we had a plonker in McCarthy...you have the devil reincarnate...fear you may be in for a McLeish double relegation

24 Apr 2012 22:12:12
surely even if we scrape survival they MUST sack McCleish! we look feckless and its getting worse by the week

24 Apr 2012 11:57:10
villas game of the season tonight.
Can the kids cut it or not ??


And whilst loyalty is a great attribute to have in a club the table does not lie regardless of which situation we are in,ASTON VILLA FC SHOULD FINISH IN THE TOP HALF NO MATTER WHAT!
But Under Mcleish we have drawn more then lost and then lost more then won

And this is strictley down to mcleish style of play.
Score a goal and sit back and try and hit them on the counter whilst full knowing our defence is rubbish!

You don't have a divine right to be finishing in the top 10, you are where you the table never lies your not good enough.

22 Apr 2012 15:53:31
Biggest game of our season on Tuesday. McLeish HAS to be sacked whether we stay up or not, this season has been dreadful and if we don't win against Bolton then maybe we should start making plans for trips to Barnsley and Brighton next season. If McLeish does get the boot (fingers crossed) who would you want to replace him? Realistically I'd like Martinez or Lambert.

Worst case scenario, he Blues in the Prem and the Villa in the championship. This is a realistic possibility with this person in charge

Halloway,mckey,benitez or hoddle all play attacking football

Hoddle

I would prefer lambert cuz he would have all our youth and he could add more hungry attacking young players who want to win something. he could clear out all the old crap oneil bought and replace with great youngsters.
Also attacking football is the way he likes to play. Look at norwich vs manu at old trafford, they took it to united and went for it.

Getr the tea lady to be the next boss, I honestly dont care who it is anymore as long as it is not that clueless buffoon McLeish and his person sidekick Peter grant

Di Matteo Or Brendan Rodgers

22 Apr 2012 09:50:41
Sure Mcleish is an artist, he's brilliant at drawing games. Only issue is that we should be winning these !!!

Same old same old at VP gain yesterday, firstly Mcleish has no concept of trying to win games, Gabby comes off and on comes Heskey, why not Carruthers or Gardner ? No let's go for the safe option who will cause no problem to Sunderland. Secondly, and more importantly, Mcleish lacks the passion that we fans have. He stands in the technical area hands in pockets with a total lack animation to get the players fired up and giving that extra something. No wonder he has not motivated this team this year, he relies on the players to motivate each other. Newsflash, not working !

Sorry Mr Lerner but you made a poor decision, whatever the reasons, in appointing this guy. after almost 12 months in charge his coaching skills, or to be precise lack of them, are evident in the fact we can't even take a decent corner most of the time, if we are going to send it past the far post lets have someone there !! and at the sames time our record of defending set pieces this season is poor

Oh and by the way, our position in the league is costing you money Mr Lerner £800,000 plus for each place so maybe any compensation you have to pay could be more than earned back by a decent manager who believes in winning games not drawing them in the most boring style. Maybe you'll also get a bonus of more season ticket sales as well !

McLeish needs to go, cant believe those fans turned up yesterday, time for a total boycott until McMuppet has left

Do you seriously think having no manager at this point of the season is a really good idea? look at wolves got rid of mccarthy and have done worse then they would of if they kept him on till the end of the season! yes im all up for a better manager but there are good and bad times to sack a manager and now would be suicidal so stop and think before you say boycot until he goes yeah don't re-new your season tickets so he goes in the summer but sacking him now is a very bad idea!

Anything less than a win tomorrow will, in all probability, put us on the brink of relegation If this happens & I pray it doesn't then KMac & GC could do as good a job for the last few games Maybe that might fire up the players for revenge against the baggies for their unjust win @ VP And before anyone says Hutton should have been sent off so shod Foster for the foul on Gabby that led to the penalty he was the last man & it was certainly a goal scoring opportunity

Yet another decision by the ref that cost us points

20 Apr 2012 18:09:24
Not gonna lie if the fans boo o neill tommorow it is wrong. The guy was the best manager we had in the prem and yes he left us at a bad time but can you blame him after seeing what a mess lerner has left the club in now. I say fair play to him he's now gone to a club that's going places not one that's heading for relegation if not this season then next. Written by a villa fan just in case anyone thinks I am a sour faced blue nose or a mackem

Mon left us in the s**t not lerner! lerner put all his trust in mon and look where that got us finishing 6th with loads of over paid bench warmers lerner has been sorting the mess out since mon left and by the looks of it he finally has with the money we have to spend this summer lets just hope ginger .... invests well and wins us all round by getting us back up that table!

Haha you seriously believe that mess is sorted out. Please, the manager is a spineless person who could not manage a match winning side if he tried hard. We have a chairman and a chief executive who could not give a f***. IF they give mcleish any money to spend it will be the biggest mistake in the clubs history because we will end up with a first team full of zigic like players and barry fergusons and regardless of league position we are better than that.

OK so O'Neil will have picked the players. But do you honestly believe he was the one negotiating the the wages etc. Don't be so ridiculous. It is up to the men behind the scenes to keep that side in order.

20 Apr 2012 14:31:10
mctwit needs to go

18 Apr 2012 15:27:04
So with 4games left mcginger is still in charge,thousands of villa fans called for his resignation only hors after being appointed but mr learner and his puppet Faulkner would not listen to us and now we are on the brink of relegation they are still nowhere near sacking the joke.
In one sense I am glad he has been given no money to spend otherwise the kids would not have been given the chance and we will need them in decision 1next season has have our team will walk away due to the clauses in their contracts that they can leave when we go down so thank you randy,Paul Martin o Neil and Alex MacLeish in ruining our beautifully club please leave and sell the club to someone who cares let them bring in a coaching team that can coach with the times and develop our youngsters and bring in players that want to play for our team and not just sit back and take away massive wages for performing like a pub player week in week out

16 Apr 2012 10:42:04
ashley young should be in the olympic swimming team for the dive yesterday,villa fans were right to boo him,lets face it he was never a great player at villa,a one trick pony,the odd run down the touchline was his forte,he will be cast aside in the coming years at utd,leave him to it i say

Yes Ashley Young is a diver but no villa fan ever moaned when he was diving for us winning penalties and games for us in his 5 years at Villa he was a true servant to the club and still comes and watches us when he can.
At the end of the day we all worshiped him at villa he's just doing his thing for another club now.

Yes young dived when he played at villa but he never got a penalty just a yellow card

Young won plenty of games for us and still has a box at the villa were he can be seen when ours and uniteds schedule's dont conflict for me Young along with Barry and Milner i'm glad they played for us giving us a few years or cracking football Downing is the turncoat for me.

16 Apr 2012 09:49:13
Ashley Young=Modern day mercinary. Forgot WHO made him, and sold us down the river

15 Apr 2012 17:40:19
i knew we would end up where we are now,i would urge fellow villa fans to march on villa park and get the person mc leish out,he is no way premiership management material,get back to scotland u person mc leish,u are out of ur depth with villa...................

15 Apr 2012 13:42:40
Ferguson said Fabio will leave United on loan next season. Why don't we do a Bolton and get him? He would instantly replace Warnock.

He's going on loan to benfica with macheda

13 Apr 2012 07:56:26
villa should get luis van gall - experinced with youngsters and plays attacking footbasll ?

I agree but will never happen

12 Apr 2012 18:43:51
What do you lot think of Martin O'Neill?
Did he play good football? what did you think of
his dealings in the transfer market? And how well do you think he will do at sunderland if he has to sell to
buy?
Interested Safc Fan

Millner downing ash young were is only good signings. spent and wasted loads otherwise on champ ship standard players on silly wages. we are now suffering because of this. very good motivator as you have seen but when dont agree with something asked to do will run off and leave you in it. let someone else buy the players and oneil will get best out of them. could be worse though you could have MCGINGER in charge. MCLEISH OUT. come on randy wake up.

MON did well at Villa in terms of league position, but, as has been said many times before, he made lots of signings on big money who just didn't make the grade. He also tended to sign to the same small group of players game in game out which means you don't develop the fringe players, many of which are capable of more.

Villa current financial constraints are largely down to us carrying to many mediocre players on silly wages

MON produced results for villa 3 consecutive seasons finishing 6th challenging the top 4 although he tended to grind the same 14 players into the ground so that they couldnt maintain the pace in the last leg of the season. Mon also signed lots of players on inflated wages although he did sign some players we've profited from, but in addition to this he sold some quality players for next to nothing like gary cahill. Mon's biggest fault was not allowing any youth players in the team.

So in a word he is a good manager just dont let him sign or sell players and he'll produce results for your team as villa hav

I agree but if you look at the quality of teams now than there were two years ago when MON was at villa we didn't have to worry about man city or spurs so the only team at that time who we were competing with were Everton and look how much they've spent in the past 5 years!!

Er are we forgetting Liverpool who along with Everton were our competition for 4th for 3 seasons

11 Apr 2012 19:01:47
I know AM isn't the best manager but lets face it; it wasn't him who got us in this mess, it was MON. He spent nearly 12m on Reo-Coker and Harewood. He also sold Cahill for 5m. Around 30m on Davies, Sidwell, Shorey, Heskey and Cuellar. 19m on Delph, Warnock and Beye. In total he made a loss of over 80m at Villa. Not only that he put the likes of Beye, Warnock and Heskey on 40k a week! That's over 6m a year on wages for those 3 players! Since AM has been at Villa he has made a profit of 20m so of course we won't be as good as we were under MON but that's not AM's fault!

LOL direct from Villa Park. MON is about as much to blame as Randy lerner himself then.

This mess is the football is crap, at every club Alex McLeish has managed they have played s**te football at every club he will manage they will play s**te football, the stats dont lie he is an awful manager and from what i have heard renewals are going to shock the club

I agree but maybe if he had a bit of money to spend, things wouldn't be such a disaster

Did he buy any good players at birmingham apart from ben foster

Learner is to blame!
He let MON waste his money and now he's letting AM take the blame. why the hell did he give McLeish the job in the first place! He sent Birmingham down the previous year and plays football like we're a sunday pub team. every villa fan around knew exactly how AM plays his football yet at the end of the day the most important man at the club was oblivious to it all! what a joke!!

11 Apr 2012 10:26:05
Ed who is Oscar de Marcos and who does he play for.thanks. {Ed001's Note - Athletic Bilbao, one of their youngsters who starred in the Europa League for them.}

10 Apr 2012 16:10:20
with a clear out set to happen at man city why don't we go for the likes of milner, barry and a. johnson with those 3 players would turn our team around and get us back up fighting for europa a league spot and boost our reputation to attract bigger names and hopefully push on for a top 4 spot!

Milner and Johnson def but we had the best years of Barry I would much prefer a out and out def mid ball winner like o hara,diame or N zonzi all would be cheap and would add a bit of dog to the mid-field there is no point having bent,gabby,n zog wiemann or albrighton if we can't get them the ball

09 Apr 2012 14:16:29
Would AM have played the young players! if the useless( he calls then experenced player had been fit , I dont think so, flair players he can not handleYOU can see the young players want to play GET Hoddle or someone of that calibre who will want then to express

08 Apr 2012 10:32:48
Ok guys I have a question for you all now I'm not saying I want AM to stay but to sack would cost millions unless he dose the honerable thing and walks away, would it not be better to spend that money on players jut a thourght,

I think we should get a director of football to oversee transfers

06 Apr 2012 22:16:45
Talk about maybe Zola/Poyet taking over in summer, latter is more to do with whether Brighton getting promoted. I think the bloke who said about it said it was as a duo as well.

03 Apr 2012 21:14:55
SUPPORT STAN VILLA NEED HIM HOPE HE GETS BETTER

02 Apr 2012 05:42:35
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01 Apr 2012 12:36:08
Mr Lerner you must sack AM GET GLEN HODDLE a manager with vision it seems everyone calling for him for the England job,Read the papers Andy Gray,Chris waddle Alan shearer These are people that know football!! Get well Stylian

You want to keep AM ?