Aston Villa Rumours Archive May 23 2016

 

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23 May 2016 18:36:10
Said before say it again, if old ford xia gets by the f.a. tests, and he becomes our owner, we are going to become a club for bringing in chinese youth players to europe, basically a vehicle for transporting them into europe, this is not what our club should be about, for the upteenth time, this fella is a 'wrongun', and our club will not only lose its identity but become the butt of jokes and seen in an unsavoury light, sling this fella out now before its too late; We are better than this, look away from from the double talk snake oil salesman pitch he's trying to sell us, he's mugging us off, i'm telling you!



24 May 2016 05:10:18
where is your info to prove this classof82 . the papers all said this about roman abramovhic when he bought Chelsea but he has done good by them. don't belive anything papers say.



24 May 2016 06:46:27
Although I'm with you on agreein this guy seems extremely dodgy an I'm not sure I want this deal to go thru.

Wouldn't all these Chinese players need work permits? Can't see that happening.



24 May 2016 07:56:23
Good point, kingvilla. Xia also stated that he will not make any transfer decisions once the right manager is appointed. For me, that manager should be Di Matteo.



24 May 2016 08:13:03
Pearson about to drop out as well, apparently.

Xia has made no such promise about transfer decisions. What he says openly isn't necessarily what he says and insists upon in private.



24 May 2016 06:06:41
Don't need the papers to put 2 and 2 together, look, i want what's best for our club, we all do, and for those who believe dr. xia, all good and well, but there are 1 too many anomalies, i actually get no joy from seeing our club like a rudderless ship at sea in high winds, so far dr. xia hasn't covered himself in glory (or anything approaching common sense) and after the hand shandy randy years i'm just a little bit unsure.

a big dollop of all your asking for is in fact feasible and possible, top 3 club in 10 years, maybe on your playstation, but on the planet i live on with the blue skies, nah. if the likes of moyesy swerves us after previously saying we're the only club he'd drop down to the championship for, either he's getting picky in his old age, or all that glitters is not gold, and pay no heed to the stuff your told.

also a dissenting point of view provides perspective and balance, see that's me being an unsung hero again, now if only i persuade the trouble and strife that too, i'd be a happy man!



24 May 2016 09:18:51
Well said Class of 82. The people saying we should have blind faith are misguided in my view and there is no evidence yet, and I deliberately say yet, to suggest that Xia will be good for AVFC. I for one need to see some proof followed by some action.



24 May 2016 09:34:28
I think some people are putting 2 and 2 together and coming out with 18. Drawing conclusions based on media speculation and a lack of information will get you nowhere. Managers 'pulling out of the race' happens all the time and for a host of reasons, most of which we'll never know.
Most of the concerns that people are raising about Xia have come about because of less than accurate reporting and specualtion. This whole saga about him not owning as many listed companies as was reported isn't his problem or a reflection on him. That was just the AVFC media team not understanding/ reflecting that he is in the process of buying these companies but that they are not yet his. just one example of innacurate reports giving the impression he's 'dodgy'.
The chinese economy is exploding at the moment and in such a chaotic period of growth there is bound to be a complex web of corporate dealings which will take an age to understand, mix that with the difficulty of getting any useful publically avaialable information from Chinese media outlets and obviously everyone in the uk will be chasing their tails to some extent.
Just calm down. The guys not even in the building yet and we're claiming this and that. let's criticise if and when he makes a mistake but be ready to praise him if he delivers. Lerner is out, we got what we wanted. let's try and be positive for a change.



24 May 2016 11:00:46
I agree something isn't quite right about Dr Xia, a few things leave me worried or maybe we should all ignor thé press reporting because let's remember they love a scandal - sells papers! I will say this, very few billionaires have done everything exactly by the rule book when
making their fortune, they have all ducked and dived along thé way! A former Kremlin aide once called for Abramovich to face criminal investigation in 2011 and there is mystery surrounding his business dealings so this kind of skepticism is får from unusual! let's all hope Dr Xia does än Abramovich åt Villa.



24 May 2016 08:59:17
Aruston, i believe our great leader will bring in youth aged players whose age can be from 10 upwards (maybe even younger), as long as the parents agree and the club takes responsibility for their welfare and education, so they go through the youth academy, apprenticeship and if good enough, sign on the doted line, by then they can be classed as naturalised and hence stay and play, or be sold on, why do i think this will happen.

a chinese government spokesman said china believe they can win the world cup within 30 years or so. hence buying a club in europe to start doing this makes perfect sense, for those who disagree fair enough, but i guarantee xia and his colleagues will want at least 3 to 4 Chinese players in the team if they get their way, a feeder club, that's our future under xia and his cronies, but that's only my take on it, time will tell.



24 May 2016 11:36:04
well I'm behind dr xia all the way. I've spent hours looking into this guy and I'm more than happy with what I've found. sit back people when he passes the tests which he will by the way get behind the man and the new manager and let's roar the villa back up to the prem.



24 May 2016 11:50:42
Xia has already gone on record as saying he would want to look at the possibility of putting in place some kind of scholarship or exchange programme for some Chinese players to come over - is that honestly surprising to anyone? Is it a bad thing? In reality all this means is that some chinese players will come over and be given a chance to prove themselves. If they turn into good players that's great. If they don't they won't get a look in. Is anyone seriously suggesting that becuase we have a Chinese owner we'll pack our team with a load of Chinese players regardless of talent?
If you think he's in it to make a quick buck he's certainly not goint to do it that way is he!
Honestly, if we insist on jumping the gun and critising before he's even got started, let's at least think about our critisism before we blurt it out. Villa fans have a reputation for being miserable lot for exactly this reason. We have a new owner (nearly anyway) who is talking about being ambitious and the summer is here. After last season you would have thought we'd all be looking for an excuse to be think positive!?



24 May 2016 17:24:00
I'm with you there mate. Whilst remaining to be convinced about Xia (as I probably would be with any new owner, post Lerner) I'm not ready to imagine disaster scenarios before they play out
These pages seem to be plagued with people who constantly make extreme claims (one way or another) for a chance to say I told you so if one of those claims falls any where near the mark
The idea that we fill the team with substandard Chinese players because the owner happens to be Chinese is ludicrous.



24 May 2016 17:40:16
Maybe the reason moyes as turned down the job is because he might have been offered another job at a prem club or abroad again just because he isn't coming to us doesn't mean that we are in a dark hole no one knows anything about this new owner yet so let's get behind the club and hopefully everything turns out good.



24 May 2016 18:26:46
If we became a feeder club for the Chinese it wouldn't be too far off what we are now for the English team, any decent player we have we sell at the moment. Barry, Milner, young just to name a few.

I don't believe we would be a feeder club in the slightest but if we was to get a few Chinese players worthy to wear the shirt who cares?! If they want to win the World Cup in 30 years these players will need to be of the highest quality and I'm not one to say no to a couple of would cup winning quality players.

As I've said before this is all dream land stuff and we all need to wait until an announcement is made and enjoy the new adventure we are about to embark on utv.



24 May 2016 19:19:39
I think we all need to chill. With the entire population of China I think we might be able to unearth a few gems. Let's see what happens with regard to the fit and proper tests before we all start shouting wrong un.



24 May 2016 19:46:38
To be honest, if you were in a 'class of 82' I'd be worried about your decision-making and judgement. That's a really rubbish teacher-pupil ratio and obviously your concentration must be terrible. My daughter is only in a class of 31 and she's a moron.



24 May 2016 20:09:09
pass with flying colours.



24 May 2016 20:30:59
Ha ha ha.
You sound like such a proud Dad mate.



24 May 2016 20:59:22
Can't believe already the negativity about DrTX. Give the new regime a chance! What was it that was said about China! If they wanted to be world Cricket champions then they would be in 5yrs. The resources and the potential out there to bring in some good young chinese players great I say. The rules around foreign players will still help to protect some good local talent. Let's give this new lot a chance and our full support as things couldn't have got much worse under Lerner (actually they could)! Let's get right behind them and see where their promises can take us? Lotus Villa till I die lol.



24 May 2016 21:07:24
Suitably rebuked sir!



25 May 2016 06:34:49
Wittonwisdom that's the funniest post on here for months!
Spat my morning tea everywhere!



25 May 2016 16:20:12
Cheers Flackie - Nice to have you back. How was Thailand ;)



26 May 2016 11:27:24
Trust him he's a doctor. What's wrong with him having a personal ambition to bring through Chinese players anyway? Alright china aren't famed for their footballing quality but if they're good enough to play here I couldn't give two hoots.



23 May 2016 16:12:06
Moyes says "no" so where do we go.
Di Matteo was said to be a cert.



23 May 2016 20:14:28
Think giggs would be a good choice, needs to start somewhere.



23 May 2016 22:18:46
No point speculating about who the new manager will be! Until the good doctor has proven he is no fraud we are stuck in limbo!



24 May 2016 05:11:15
Pearson for me. it's a no brainer . he should of been in weeks ago.



24 May 2016 10:31:48
Giggs was undoubtedly a great player but is unproven in any kind of real management situation. Sitting on the bench next to a couple of under-achieving managers doesn't qualify you to lead one of Englands great clubs back out of the wilderness.



23 May 2016 12:57:49
I see moyes has dropped out, so really, what do the papers know?



23 may 2016 13:17:49
thank god crap boring manager don't know why you villa fans like him he has always turned us down he clearly don't like us. nigel pearson please! we need a bully otherwise these players take the mick.



23 May 2016 13:57:37
"Why you villa fans"? What statement is that? are you going through the menopause Mr know it all as all you do is moan moan moan!



23 may 2016 14:31:30
the players have none nothink but take the mick this season because they know no1 will say anythink its not just 1 player its about 6 or 7 of them surely you can see we need a strong manager like pearson who has won promotion. what's so special about moyes he has never won anythink plays borring 4 5 1 an turns us down all the time no thanx we have had our fair share of sweaty socks be nice to have a manager who gives us straight an we can understand! my positive is nigel pearson should be manager and you get behind him. i will get behind any manager but duno why you all scared of pearson! utv.



23 May 2016 16:23:36
Moyes has dropped out because the amount of money allocated for transfers is far less than he wanted. Dr Xia has also refused to rule out owner involvement in transfer decisions, including an interest in signing Asian players to market the club's appeal, whether the manager wants the players or not.

There is also growing concern about the financial background, so the deal may be blocked after all.



23 May 2016 17:20:35
Not scared of person just think he is a idiot with a racist of a son.



24 May 2016 05:13:56
anything to back the claims fatdave.



24 May 2016 00:53:06
I have no problem with people expressing their point of view but go easy on the jocks; family history and all that, but even i can't put up with moyesy, watching paint dry as the toffees fans remember the style he played.



23 May 2016 12:55:40
Moyes has ruled himself out of the job according to bbc sport.



23 May 2016 13:04:38
And if Di Matteo is off to an Italian club, that leaves only Pearson on the short-list. Someone shoot me now please.



23 May 2016 13:20:27
The Birmingham mail is purring with delight after it has been announced Moyes has ruled himself out. they love the psychological games they play with Villa Park! One Word, "Obsessed". In truth we don't need Moyes, i have serious doubts about his ability to promote us, he hasn't got recent championship experience and
has delusions of grandeur after his time at Man United! Pearson is the man no doubt about it, his team have just won the prem.



23 May 2016 13:21:59
once again moyes feels he can do better than villa. big mistake Mr moyes as we are on the up my friend and I feel in the future you will regret this choice. stop messing about now, give it to Pearson and let the man get on with it.



23 May 2016 14:28:10
Kingvilla - Please don't say Villa are 'on the up', that mnakes me think we're probably not ;)

On a more general note with regards to Moyes apparently puling out, nobody really has a clue what has happened. He may have been offered the job and said no. He may not have been offered the job but his agent wants people to think he was. We may have told him we're going with another candidate and this is just PR on his part. We don't know and probably never will.
Finally, the birmingham mail might be pretty poor in terms of reporting actual news and publishing quality content, but i think the conspiracy talk of them wanting Villa to fail and playing mind games with fans is a bit far fetched. Sounds like Gabby isn't the only one smoking the good stuff!



23 May 2016 16:08:56
DBS - the evening mail plays mind games with Villa fans without any shadow of s doubt ) You think Moyes agent plays games clearly so not a young writer!? They are always at it, tske a look at the articles through the day, some are embarrissingly obvious - 100%.



23 May 2016 16:16:19
There is no mention of a conspiracy that's your own mind getting carried away! There is absolutely no doubt that the evening mail is anti Villa though.



23 May 2016 16:29:10
I do agree with you about the nature of Moyes apparently ruling himself out though - that will be his agent and a little bit of Moyes own ego -to be fair though like you said nome of us know for sure!



23 May 2016 16:47:14
Fair play Devlin, everyone's entitled to their own view and if you have information that suggests Birmingham Mail are playing games with fans and are anti Villa i'm open to being proved wrong.

Didn't mean the conspiracy line as a personal dig at all, so apologies if it sounded that way - It's just that suggesting that a professional media organisation is 'purring with delight after it has been announced Moyes has ruled himself out' and 'love the psychological games they play with Villa' would normally be seen to be suggesting some level of vendetta or conspiracy against Villa fans. Like i said, I agree the content and 'news' they push are not up to scratch, but i'm pretty sure there are a few pro-villa voices there.



23 May 2016 18:05:46
Begs the question of where Moyes thinks he going to go that's better - back to Everton? I suspect the new owners are looking for a considerably bigger fish so I doubt it. I hope we're not considering Martinez just because he's kicking around without a job. Mind you, it might be better than Pearson.



23 May 2016 22:45:37
In secret i imagine Moyes doubts his ability to promote Villa even with cash to spend, because let's face facts its a very big ask to do it at the first attempt and if he failed it could be career over - where could he go from there? His decision is certainly more about fear than anything else, hence why he will seak premiership comfort zone naturally.



24 May 2016 09:24:56
So I can only think that Moyes will have to bide his time until the first Premier sacking of next season when he becomes the 'any port in a storm ' option. As far as I am aware, no-one else is looking for a Prem manager right now. Watford are sorted and I'm pretty sure Everton won't take him back. Unless Benitez goes, but I can't see Newcastle wanting him. Only left-field option would be in Pulis came to us and Moyes went to WBA.