Aston Villa Banter Archive July 09 2013

09 Jul 2013 21:57:29
If we do end up having to sell Benteke I think villa should target Loic Remy, he would be available on the cheap and even though his wages would be high he is an extremely talented player

09 Jul 2013 18:45:32
here are my opinions on who could replace benteke
Defoe, Dzeko, papa cisse, remy, huntelaar, Hooper

also villa should bid for Nolan, mcgeady, barry, milner, A. young, and downing, also bid for zaha on loan

Are you trying to replace the team mate.
?????
Not a good idea.
Dave

Not a villa fan.

I am a villa fan I meant to say to only try buy 2 or 3 of these to gain xp for the club

Resign 3 of our old players? Not going to happen. Also Dzeko and Remy's wages would be far too much so no.

My buys with benteke cash would be finnobigson Kyle walker or Danny rose thrownIn the benteke deal and kiyoute and maybe Huddleston or another player in that mold

09 Jul 2013 17:07:26
Benteke out, John Guidetti in anyone! he'd apparently cost £5m-£8m, which is an absolute bargain!

We've had this suggestion on this site for about a year now, at some point he will move, so why not us!

09 Jul 2013 16:14:31
If Benteke goes thn he goes. He is an important player but one player don't make a team. We still have Gabby and Weimann. If he goes to Chelsea then I think we should look at £25m and Ba. If to Tottenham or anyone else then we should just get the money. No one knew him before he joined us. We made him and we will be the one laughing at him when he goes to a 'big' club and is sitting on the bench every game. Lambert and his scouts will be able to work there magic again and find an ideal replacement for the big man.
In Lambert we trust.
UTV

We already have one, Helenius has more or less the same form and statistics ie Goals, Assists etc, as Benteke before either joined Villa.
They are the same weight, but Helenius has 3" more in height, he is better with his feet than Benteke so we should be OK, PL will probably get another striker as well to act as cover!
"Although it might not go down well"
Tekkers might have second thoughts
villadave

Fairplay villadave if helenius turns out to be a flop your going to have egg on your face. Although I hope your right and am excited to see what the boy has to offer.

Finch

I love egg Finchy.

I am pretty sure about Helenius,

Dave

Henenius is 6"5 and Benteke is either 6"3 or 6"4. I don't know why you'd be watching him in the Danish league but my guess is you've just watched his youtube goals like the rest of us. He looks very promising, but take out the standard of the league he came from and we can only hope he has an impact like Benteke did, you can't just claim he's better than him when he's yet to prove it.

ANSWER to the THE GUY WHO SAID I WATCH YOUTUBE.

I have watched Helenius perform many times a I have stated before.

Why have I been watching Danish football.

The reason is "I Trade on football matches" on Betfair.

you can watch games streamed live on their website and trade on them in-play.

Does that answer you, I don't lie.

villadave

Benteke is 6`2 mate, look at his profile.
And in reply to your quote, I did not say Helenius is better than Benteke I said he is better with his feet.

We must give him time to adjust.

Dave

Different sources have him listed from 6"2 and a half up to 6"4. That's besides the point and a relatively pointless argument as height doesn't have an impact on how good a player is. What I've seen of Helenius is enough to prove he's a better player than the league he played in. Whether he can perform in the premier league is yet to be seen. Hopefully he turns out to be a great signing, which I believe he can be.

So why did you disagree in the first place then, if its not important.

Because you brought in Helenius' height and weight and compared it to Bentekes' for some bizarre reason. It doesn't make any difference to how well he plays. They're two completely different players.

That bizarre reason, I was purely trying to say that statistically there is very little difference between the two, before they came to Villa.

Did I answer your remark about watching Danish football, I watch three games a day from all over the world. on betfair.

Dave

But there is a difference, a big one. Regardless if they are the same height, weight, foot size or whatever. They're different players so that doesn't matter. Yeah you answered it but just because you've watched a player excel in their league, doesn't mean they'll excel in the premiership. You can notice a player and think he looks good, anyone can. The difference between your judgement and one of the villa scouts' judgement, who actually know what they're talking about, is monumental.

Whatever
Last response to you mate.
So you are agreeing with me then!
I have said all along that Helenius is a good player.
So do the villa scouts otherwise they would not have signed him.
Answer: I agree with Scouts.
Simple ain't it.
Villadave

09 Jul 2013 14:30:11
Sounds coming out of Villa Park is that we will hold out for £30m for Benteke or he will be playing for Villa next season.

09 Jul 2013 14:24:11
I don't very often post comments on here, but I thought today I would.

So we have all read the news, watched tv news etc etc. And to either our horror or worst fears bentekkers is off.

Well firstly i'm disappointed as he is/was the best centre forward we have had since Peter Withe. His goals last year saved our fledgling team from certain relegation and he was just simply a joy to watch. it was like winding up a clockwork battering ram and then letting him reak havoc.

i have seen many people post comments on here saying traitor, judas etc etc. guys get a grip firstly our chairman is not a russian or arab oil billionaire he is just surprising more weathly than you or me. when the chelsea's or Arsenal's (apparently)of this world come knocking then a 22 year old is going to listen. we couldn't turn down rediculous offers for an amazing talent who has just one season in the EPL under his belt. now I am not saying either Chelsea or Arsenal have bid but its rumoured they are interested and by virtue CB has handed in a transfer request must surely mean he has had his head turned by a bigger club.

Also a footballer has a career much like me or you, only there career is about 15 years at the top maximum. so tell me if you was approached (head hunted) by a competitor to to the company you presently work for offering more money, and possibly win more trophys would you not go? I think we all know the answer to that one.

Fact is guys, people say Benteke was too good for AVFC, I disagree we was the perfect match, we gave him the platform to showcase his talent, he kept us in the premier league and also we stand to make a very very tidy profit on him.

Lambert has just brough Nicklas Helenius, massive kid, good with his feet, has a shot like a cannon, apparently he can't head the ball but he is only young. Lambert brought him for a reason, maybe just maybe to replace Benteke as he knew he would be going this summer.

if we recieved an offer anywhere between 25-30 million I would be snapping there hand off. for that we could bring in quality additions.

Wilfred Bony hasn't signed for Swansea yet and i'm sure he would prefer AVFC. also we have been after Kiyotake from Nuremburg. they have said hands off but I think 10 million offer would persuade them otherwise.

this isn't also accounting for the fact that given, bent, bannan, ireland, fonz will shortly be off our wage bill and Lambert will probably add to the squad with these off the playing staff.

lets just see what the end of the transfer window brings and see what happens. stop the hatered guys we would all go for the money that is a fact.

VTID

Actually kenn i'd play for my team for free!

09 Jul 2013 12:32:16
As a replacement for benteke I'd like to see either 1 of these.

Loic remy qpr
Gary hooper celtic
Fabio borini liverpool
Danny welbeck man u loan maybe
Papis cisse newcastle
Nikita jelavic everton {Ed052's Note - Only Remy (maybe) and Hooper would be realistic options}

Would love remy's but there's no way we can afford to pay him more than 50k a week

Jelavic would be to much of a risk

09 Jul 2013 09:18:13
So benteke wants to go. Hope he does well for hinself. I'm just waiting for all the rubbish now on all the people who throw names on here to be his replacement just to sound interesting. Sad news for villa but a player is not bigger than the club

09 Jul 2013 08:36:53
There is no point dragging this out or keeping an unhappy player. He is not bigger than our club after one reasonable season. I think if we could get 20 mil plus a player that would be a great deal on a player who isn't a consistent, proven player who could get injured, suffer a poor season etc especially after we only paid 7 for him.
I'd rather he went abroad but how about
20 mil +
Spurs - Defoe
Chelsea - Ba
Arsenal - Chamakh, Gervinho
Man City - need a forward themselves so Milner, Lescott?

Chamahk? Absolutely not

None are any good why should villa have cast offs, Ireland example

09 Jul 2013 08:23:58
Hardly a surprise is it? Just another greedy player who is after as much money as possible, just remains to be seen if he is as much of a money grabber as Gareth Barry & goes to Spurs for. ahem champions league football.
It is time to face that every pre season we are going to lose our best player, we are no longer a "big club" in the sense that we can compete financially with the Man City's/Chelsea's etc of this world. Yes we have a proud history but we will not have a brighter future than a mid table finish, a flirting interest in a top 6 finish or a cup run. We used to attract Europe's best now its just promising youngsters, & whilst I admit the crop of recruits this summer look exciting I have no doubt that if Okore, Helenius et al have a good season they will be of to the biggest bidder next season. I will always go to VP and have every faith in PL and also cannot fault RL as he consistently puts his hand is his pocket but unfortunately things will always be this way unless we get a Russian Mafia or Oil Rich Arab to buy us.
I just think now the greedy, ungrateful Belgian has expressed a desire to jump ship to the person who pays the most coin let him go and get a replacement in before the season starts. I expect PL always had someone in mind let's just hope he hasn't already gone elsewhere.

09 Jul 2013 07:51:33
"He was reminded that there are three years remaining on his contract, we consider him to be a Villa player and expect that he will be with us for the 2013-14 season. "
He has time off until 18th July. Absolutely gutted! Randy stay strong & only sell for what he is worth & not a discounted amount!