Aston Villa Banter Archive February 07 2015

 

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07 Feb 2015 17:27:20
You've not scored for 10 hours, your at home against the league leaders; it's a tricky one to deal with strategically, so what do you do ? Drop your only goal threat !
Lambert has been trying to hint that Villa's ills over recent weeks have been down to the loss of form of Benteke; suggesting that we have been making chances but not converting.
To me Mr Lambert that makes you not only a liar but a cowardly one at that
Show some self respect and walk
I could find it in my heart to give you credit for that if you did

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Benteke is not a goal threat and that is why he was on the bench.
We don't have a goal threat and the reason, Lerner will not open the purse.
PL has had peanuts to buy players and that is why we are in trouble.
Mendax, you are going to respond that it is the coaching etc that is at fault and past buys indicate that the manager knows nothing. Yet many fans are realising that PL has made some good buys along with some lemons and has little support via the purse from Lerner. And just because he doesn't leap up and down on the line doesn't mean he lacks enthusiasm.

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Thanks for letting me know how I am going to respond Oldvillain but I'll have a stab at it anyway thanks
Benteke is not a threat because we create NOTHING
Despite that, he is still our best option upfront. Incase you hadn't noticed, we don't have Ronaldo or Costa on the bench and even if we did, they would struggle behind this midfield
Benteke is not the problem, he is a symptom
And who did we bring on in his place by the way? Oh yes, it was that goal machine Agbonlahor
Yes, we know Lerner is the main problem. But how you cannot see how poor our manager is bemuses me.
I don't talk for other fans (something that doesn't faze you) but if there is a collective realisation amongst fans that is tangible, it is that we need to get rid of this muppet

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Mendax, you have to agree the last few games Benteke has looked uninterested and a shadow of his former self, and in those games we have created more and looked more like doing something (not counting arsenal game) than the rest of the season.
I was not surprised by him being left on the bench but lambert needed to change things up and unfortunately the only players we have in replacement at the moment is Gabby
I agree it is probably time to get a new manager but you have to realise whilst Learner owns our club he is going nowhere, you can wish all you want buts it's not going to happen
I believe we do have strong enough squad to survive and I know this is not what we want every year but it's where we're at so we need to get behind the team!

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I do agree that Benteke has not been at his best. My point is, a Benteke "not at his best" is still a lot more likely to score than Gabby
Why you are lecturing me about the difficulties of getting rid of Lerner is a bit of a mystery; I don't believe I've ever said otherwise
My prime concern is the manager
As for getting behind the team ? I always do mate. And for the 100th time, there is a difference between supporting the team on match day and voicing your concern about the team on this site

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Totally agree Mendax.
I honestly felt that Chelsea were there for the taking yesterday after we scored, basically I felt they were below par “thank god”
So we are on the front foot, they are starting to realise that Gil is our best player and start to cover him better, they succeed, and score again.
Then for all his infinite wisdom Lambert decides to make changes ?? too late.
My feelings are, he should have Brought Benteke and Sinclaire on to give us another outlet within a couple of minutes of us scoring, took Cleverly off (forever) Brought Sanches on and stuck him in front of the back four and I don’t think Ivanovic would have had the room to score his winner !!.
Gil looks very good, and should be allowed to play in positions he enjoys, “Quality”
Bad team selection, and changes at wrong time, but I am just another supporter who knows nothing.

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Hi Mendax, I don't remember you ever stating that Lerner was the main problem.

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Probably because I didn't. My belief is that the issue is not one of Lerner or Lambert; I believe it is both
I don't catalogue my posts but you can check if you like
The thing is Oldvillain, we should not be falling out on this. At the end of the day I don't think you are wrong (about Lerner ) I just feel you are only 50 % right (you don't see Lambert as awful)

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It's frustrating Villadave. Tuesday's game is now massive. If we lose that he has to be sacked, surely ?
Ironically that means I hope Lambert is still in a job on Wednesday (it messes with my head I can tell ya)

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As long as Lerner is here, so is PL. He has to work on his own, no asst, no team coaches, no help.
We do not know if he should/could/would do better when a supply of money is available, but I am sure that he too wishes he had funds. there is evidence to suggest he is capable of buying quality at a reasonable price and yes some lemons. Our problems have been with us since MO'n left and successive managers have been unable to improve the situation. The only thing that is common to all the managers we have had is Lerner. PL inherited the situation and has had meagre help from the owner.

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You totally miss the point Oldvillain
He should be doing better with this squad.
Your dislike of Lerner, whilst justified, is totally blinding you to the inadequacies of Lambert.
How many records (unwanted ones that is) Lambert needs to break before you consider him a large part of the problem is anyone's guess.
Let's agree to diagree on this one as I can't see either of us changing our minds (particularly me as I'm right ;))

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Now Now you two, up the Villa

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08 Feb 2015 21:41:46
Oldvillan do you think this is the worst team in villas history? I'm guessing the answer is no. Well why are we breaking all the wrong records? That has to be the manger and coaching. In his time here he's broke the records for the longest time without a goal, the longest time without a clean sheet, the longest time without a win ( which is looking like its going to be smashed again), what worse records are there to be broken? Bradford smashed 4 past chelsea an there an average league one team. We've barely scored that many all season!!!!!!! We don't have league 1 strikers, there not much better than championship granted but niether are many of the bottom teams but we have scored 9 less than any of them. 12 goals is an embarreament of a once proud club. He dropped benteke who by his standards is badly out of form yet when he is out of form he has scored just as many as agbonlahor in half the games but no agbonlahor gets the call. Sanchez has been our best player before the arsenal game but he drops him for headless cleverly. He's spent over 70 million since being here-burnley have spent 7 million- their one point behind us. The bad thing is I could go on. Still think it's all Lerner to blame?

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My sentiments exactly VillaTID.

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Quite simply I accept that we are not performing and it is easy to blame PL. However none of the managers have performed after MOn depart and one must ask why? Lerner has been a constant. Has he been instructing his managers as too what he wants, after all it is his money.
This is not the worst team but they are a dreadful group of players who are under performing.
Is it PL? I don't know.
These guys are intelligent millionaires and are very capable of using their brains on the pitch.
Contrary to belief I don't really care if PL stays or goes, what I state is that he will not walk and Lerner will not sack him.
Mendax has a rather dubious thought about why but I think that Lerner will not lose face. He has no interest in AVFC but he cannot look a complete plonker by dumping another manager. My thoughts!

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What is this this "dubious thought" I have Oldvillain ?
Not taking the P; I really just don't know what you mean there

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Are you suggesting Lerner is picking the players and coaching the team ?
Sounds like it
I think Lerner is poor: I think most of us do. No need to embellish the point with mad conspiracy stories mate.
Lerner's biggest crime is that of indifference and just letting the manager get on with it with the limited (compared to previous seasons) funds that he will supply.
Unfortunately the manager "just getting on with it" happens to be Lambert

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Something about a "compromising" situation recently posted.
More a light hearted post than a critique.

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Ha ha ha, yep I know the one mate (I stand by that by the way)

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So now we will see the compromising situation.

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07 Feb 2015 17:11:17
Well what I saw today from villa was very encouraging, Gil looked superb and everyone worked hard and looked up for it despite the result. We scored a goal and hopefully it will give our forwards confidence.
Looking at the next 7-8 games it really does look like our season starts now, the time to change our luck and start being positive and beating the teams around us. I would like to see Glen Hoddle come in as no2 and coach us in the way that lambert struggles to.
After a terrible run of form and games I'm now going to be positive and hopefully fingers crossed the team can perform and start putting some points on the board!!!!!!!!

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07 Feb 2015 17:52:54
I think we are like a lower division side we can sometimes beat or play better against a class side ,agree with WozdVilla about Hoddle

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07 Feb 2015 09:06:16
I have a question for you guys, we play chealski today what team would use line out and what way would use play, park the bu, counter, in there faces, personally with our current crop of players I think I'd just award them the points and not show up, lambert should just give them free do to go out and try play this is like a free hit our big game is next week

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Park the bus and the rest, one man up top and just kick the crap out them for 90 minutes. kidding at best we can hope for a hard fought draw but not banking on much else

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I'd go 4_5_1 with Sinclair and Weimann on the wings (I don't like Weimann there but we don' t have many options; Nzog is not an option in my eyes)
I'd have Sancez and Delph in the middle with Gil ( pronounced "Jill" by the way ; he's a Catalan) playing further forward and supporting Benteke when he can
The rest of the team picks itself aslong as Lambert has Cissoko at left back
Then I'd pray for a miracle

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