Aston Villa Banter Archive October 03 2015

 

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03 Oct 2015 22:07:30
So the great debate picks up!! Is is a case still of players need to gel or are they not good enough or is it both and the manager is tactically nieve??? Today was awful with no green shoots of players gelling!! The choice of starting line up for a game against fellow strugglers was hard to fathom! I think TS is not far off mowing his favoured 14. As for not starting again with Jack G I really don't understand. When he came on to be fair didn't turn the game like against SHA! What has happened to Gil??? How have web stripped him of all that passion and attacking beat players in front of him??? Now we see short passes to led or right or back??!!

Communication and gelling is way off, very little evidence through team of real P league quality, confidence is waning further and further and TS is coming over as desperate and struggling to fathom what to do.

Quite a fire combination and pattern to break!!! Desperate for a win anywhere!!

I am really worried and it still being early days is wearing thin. Look at who we have played over first 11 games. It will be typical villa if we get a couple of shocks with the next hard fixtures but won't hold my breath!!! Will never boo but need more to cheer UTV

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03 Oct 2015 22:50:21
i think one the main problems could be solved quite easily by doing the obvious, playing kozak he is a proven goal scorer i thought kinda the reason we bought him, after that then work on the rest and as most say i think westwood sitting a few out might chnge our direction of play

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03 Oct 2015 18:27:54
think its safe to say now there are very few fans that still want sherwood as boss. i'm not even going to say players are the problem anymore other than 1 or 2 i feel we have plenty in the team that are good enough to least stick us mid-table but for some reason either it being the lads don't have the confidence in sherwood or he couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery its not working.

we now played 1/4 the season and we don't even look any better.

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03 Oct 2015 17:54:40
I have backed Tim Sherwood all the way from the time he became our manager until today.
I do think his team selection at times leaves a lot to be desired, but today for instance I was speechless.
He must surely know which is his strongest line up, it is time for him to pick a team and stick with it and give them time to gel.
He has not played the same team twice, and if you look back we have not played 45 minutes of any game the same, (ok first half, poor second half) (poor first half, ok second half) its not good enough.
We are starting to pass sideways again and take too long with our build up.
It is clear to me that Gil must be in the starting eleven, and go from there.
Things will have to change soon Mr Sherwood or we are going to be up to our necks in the brown stuff.
I am not one to panic but we could be cut adrift after our next 3 league games, look at the fixtures for us and teams down there with us.

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03 Oct 2015 18:42:43
im past caring now. got to say that most of these games are lost due to tims tactics and changes. just once i'd love to see veretout and gana in midfield without westwood running around not breaking up play or not creating play. what is his role. the goal we conceded today was shocking I've never seen a defence that open wasn't a great run or a great pass just a massive hole. why has clark been dropped for lescot now Crespo. okore hopefully will come bk now tht he is fit.

Richards - okore - clark - amavi
veretout - gana
traore - gil - grealish
gestede


id probably even put kozak up front haven't seen him at all this season but I watched every pre season game and he was on fire and his hold up play was excellent.

Richards isn't a centre back and will never get back into the England team as a centre back so jjust go back to your position at right back were we are clearly struggling

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03 Oct 2015 19:27:55
I like look of this team

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03 Oct 2015 17:11:04
So let's say there is a god and sherwood gets sacked tomorrow (fingers crossed) who do we get in to turn this mess around.

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03 Oct 2015 17:40:44
Jurgen Klopp is out of work ?

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03 Oct 2015 18:09:22
Presumably MacClaren - he'll be available come tomorrow morning and is a dab-hand at managing Championship material so I assume all the Holte-End Doomsayers will be happy . Either that or Pardew, for some inexplicable reason, has a massive fall-out with the Palace board tonight. OK, so this is our worst opening performance since 1986-7 when of course we - errr - got relegated Mind you, so did Man City that season so all we need is a couple of billion quid and a South American manager and Robert's your mothers brother. However, we're only 4 points off 15th place which is 2 places higher than last season's finish. Keep the faith people - consider the fact that Gabi has played in every winning league game so far this season . However, we do now need an average of more than one point per game for the rest of the season to end up with more points than Hull got relegated with last season.

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03 Oct 2015 19:57:53
OK. Mourinho looking for a new challenge?

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03 Oct 2015 20:14:21
I am available!
However to be serious, there are quite a few names that would be banded as targets but few have a "pedigree" that is big enough to get us out the s. t we are in.
When a new man I would like a proven fighter not an up & coming apprentice.

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03 Oct 2015 20:40:37
Don't think it's time to panic yet but Alladyce would be my choice if TS goes, think we've got a better squad than last year, can't get my head around why we've been so poor so far?????

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04 Oct 2015 08:40:37
Id rather have John Gregory back than almost all of the mercenaries that are constantly linked with jobs, after being sacked repeatedly by former clubs.
Most people seem to want fat sam to take over but if he does I can guarantee if we do stay up this time next season we will be calling for his head too, because we will still be down the bottom and the football will be awful.
Sick of people just coming and taking the money, don't care so much about 'pedigree' just want someone who actually cares.

People seem to get fixated on the idea of someone having the sack so much they basically are willing to let anyone replace them.

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04 Oct 2015 11:29:00
Looks like Alladyce is off to Sunderland

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03 Oct 2015 16:25:24
Worst Villa team in years. Cannot believe how Sherwood is still in charge. £40m+ wasted in Summer. Where the hell is Traore??? He's spent more time on the physios couch than on the pitch. He clearly doesn't want to play and is regretting signing.
Why was Grealish on the bench from the start?
We're simply not good enough.
Relegation will be a relief for this sorry club.

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03 Oct 2015 17:00:22
It's one thing to be unhappy and express your opinion about it
It's quite another to just make stuff up in a frenzy of zenom and hyperbole
Traore is injured. To say he doesn't want to play and is regretting signing is something that you don't know, are not in a position to speculate on as such, sounds absolutely ridiculous
Keep to the facts; it's not like they exactly need embellishing is it ?

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03 Oct 2015 17:09:55
Many posters stated that Paul Lambert was useless, no idea etc etc.
What has this guy got? FA!
50m spent in 3months but he is incapable of doing a simple jigsaw.
Some good players came in but seem to have no guidance.
I don't like the man but Pearson could put some steel into the side. He was a bully as a player and even as a manager. We don't need a nice guy we need a mean bastard to remind the team of what is required.

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03 Oct 2015 17:26:12
Facts? Here's one: Worst start in league since 86/87 season which, by the way, was last time we were relegated.
Unhappy? Not really just an air of inevitability about it all and a bit sorry for all the true fans who give up their weekends (and hard earned cash) to watch that rubbish.

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03 Oct 2015 17:40:03
Quoting a fact that is true, and not something anyone would deny, doesn't make the other fiction you spouted sound any less ridiculous
Anyway, we can both agree on one thing. This kind of display is not acceptable
Whether simply getting rid of Sherwood is the answer, I'm not sure
There has been a lot calls for Allardyce (not for me) yet he has endured similar runs of form with West Ham to that we are enjoying with Sherwood
A time for cool heads, on the pitch, behind the scenes and on the terraces
Booing a team off solves nothing

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03 Oct 2015 18:10:23
Maybe I'll show a little less "zenom" before I post next time.

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03 Oct 2015 18:17:15
Ha ha ha
Yeah, sometimes you wish for an edit button on here

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04 Oct 2015 20:11:45
oldvillian don't often agree with you but on this one yes pearson would be a good choice same as you I don't like him

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03 Oct 2015 16:23:16
We get just inside their box then stop, no one taking anyone on no one trying tricky feet everything done at half pace. TS was supposed to give us confidence but it's almost at an all time low (which after the last few seasons is saying something).

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03 Oct 2015 16:34:49
Woeful. Tbh writing was on the wall during last 3 or 4 games of last season. Spurs must be glad they got rid of him when they did. We should have done the same.
SHERWOOD OUT!

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03 Oct 2015 16:11:32
What is going on?
Half time and hardly an effort on goal. Sherwood is out of his depth but the way we are going he will be useless in the championship as well.
If he can't get the team to shoot at goal what can he do.
Our club is being destroyed in front of our eyes by totally inept management throughout.
From the very top the lifeblood of AVFC is being drained away.
The usual people will accuse me of being negative.
Bo. A. s.
For too long we have suffered with an owner who has lost interest. He seldom see VP and leaves everything to his minions.
We deserve better. The faithful that regularly pay our hard earned money to watch a team that seems to have no spirit and little positive attitude. If the management were wage earners working for a boss in the real world they would have had final wzrnings.
I want to be proud of my team, your team, our team but someone at the top is not helping us fulfil our dreams.

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03 Oct 2015 16:19:19
Spot on oldvillan, I never wanted Sherwood, grateful he kept us up but he seems to have no clue. He seems to have no idea who is best players are and never plays a settled side.
I believe he has to go or we are doomed.
I know that a certain few will shout both of us down but i care more about the club than the bullies.

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03 Oct 2015 16:36:32
Shocking performance. Players have absolutely no confidence in themselves or Sherwood.
Get him out now!!!

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03 Oct 2015 16:37:14
Spot on you 2, this manager as no idea how to motivate a team, nobody will take the game on and gee up the players. most if not all of them don't know they are allowed to shoot. this i'm affraid is the season we drop.

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