Aston Villa Banter Archive June 03 2015

03 Jun 2015 22:09:34
So Big Ben has made it clear in a fake interview that he has his heart set on leaving, and has already spoken to Liverpool.
I hope he does well, wish him luck, and thank him for his goals and effort.
But. The king is dead, so long live the king.

I hope it's 20-25m plus, with lambert thrown in.
I then hope that the club is proactive and invest quick and wisely. My shout is Charlie Austin.
Austin and lambert up front would be great, for club and country.

I now offer an apology to all of you, as I as I'm sure you have have been angry since sat.
I've vented at fellow fans and that's not on.
All I want is us to be positive, constructive, but let's all pull together.

This negativity expressed in these pages is contagious, and poisonous. We need to flush it out.
Some our even posting how we are Defo relegated this season.
Let's be honest, we go in to a season thinking this, it will prob happen.

In life you constantly get accused of some thing, or blamed for something, when you haven't done it, I genuinely believe subconsciously you think, well f**k it, they are convinced it's going to happen, so you give into it, and it happens!
Let's be a glass half full club!!

04 Jun 2015 06:31:34
As much as I agree with your message of positivity I highly doubt that in the Monday morning meeting after the final, Sherwood sat the players down and read them the confidence shattering comments on this site.

However I have never really got the philosophy of 'the glass'. To me a glass can only be described as half full if you have started with an empty glass and filled it half way up (progress). To call the glass half empty suggests the glass was once full and half of it was spilled or poured away (regression). We would certainly fall under the glass half empty definition, but the most important thing to remember is the goal is always to fill the glass no matter where you have started from, and it can always go both ways. The mind set should not to be blindly positive or negative but to have a sighted goal and to for an effective plan of achieving it. I like to think of it in terms of a SWOT analysis (Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities and Threats)where we understand how full our glass is (Strengths and Weaknesses), realise Opportunities to fill the glass, and detect Threats likely to further empty our glass.

As I believe I was one of those who alluded to relegation next season if Benteke leaves (Benteke leaving is a definite Threat in my eyes to the relative fullness of our glass) I did add the caveat of 'if he is not properly replaced'. If we sell him for the reported, yet unsubstantiated 32.5 million and we spot the Opportunity to sign both Ings and Austin our glass in theory should be fuller than before as the team should be a stronger entity than before.

Having glanced at some of the comments sections of various articles the fans here seem almost cheerful. I've seen people commenting that Sherwood should be sacked right now, we should sell Benteke, Guzan, Delph, Vlaar (All our best players), not even consider signing Cleverley because its rumoured he's speaking with Everton (Has he no right to assess his options?) and a whole host of negativity including one gem claiming Cissokho should be sold because 'he couldn't cross a ball into the ocean from the beach'.

Sorry for the long winded (and probably nonsensical) post but I just thought I'd throw my two pence in.

04 Jun 2015 08:25:32
Got to say, I love your glass analogy!!
I would love ings and Austin, but do think it will be one or the other.

The main gripe I have is the slagging off of players.
Was never there fault we signed them. Abs at this moment, they are all we have.
I'm not saying we blindly follow. But a little support would go a long way.
Prime example, Bennett, he got booed in the pitch, by his own fans. No wonder he lost in confidence.
As a player else where, to hear that you would think you had already won! Then there is the fact that why would you sign for a club, knowing one mistake will result in your own fans turning on you!

04 Jun 2015 17:47:04
Your absolutely right Flackie, if players from lesser leagues are given the opportunity to play in the premier league they are right to jump at the chance. Its up to the manager to ensure they can make the step up. With Bennett, he is not the best defender and certainly not premiership quality, but its the same scenario as Bacuna - they are wingers playing in defence. It doesn't take a genius to see Bennett is not physical enough to be a premiership defender in a team that needs to rely a lot on their defence. But he showed a lot of promise when he was allowed to go forward. That's why I think Sherwood will not make any rash decisions regarding the playing staff who have been out on loan and assess them in pre season.

What I find the most annoying though is not the air of negativity or attitude towards the players but how Sherwood is being treated. People in comments referring to him as TimTim, Nice but Tim, Timmy etc, just come across as derogatory and ungrateful. let's not forget that under Lambert we never looked like turning our form around so its fair to say Sherwood kept us up. It looked worse towards the end because every other team down the bottom turned it on as well - just look at Leicester.

06 Jun 2015 08:47:23
Can't help reflecting on our last two games. What happened to the coaching for those rubbish performances?
I wait for new owners and to se if they want TS to stay in the role.
The evidence suggests that the players play the way that they want to play or TS is failing.
Nothing has been proved yet. The improvement could be down to new manager syndrome then lapsing back.
The rats are leaving the ship. TS will have to work miracles to get any quality players to sign for us.
This is not negative thinking but trying to assess the situation that is before us.

06 Jun 2015 20:45:40
Oldvillan - its hard to argue that the last few games have been anything other than dire but there is a reason why Sherwood is the manager as the board decided he was the best candidate available. If Sherwood is sacked we aren't going to get Klopp or Ancelotti, so it will be mostly the same names in the frame again. If a takeover doesn't happen fairly early on in the window, we are going to struggle to have the time to do all the business we need to anyway and a newly instated manager will have a very limited time frame to assess our situation and decide who needs to go and who to bring in. I would hope that any new owners would realise this and give Sherwood a chance.

03 Jun 2015 13:45:46
List of players I see going out:
Weiman
Lowton
Luna
Sylla
Cissokho
Vlaar
Benteke
Zog
Senderos
Given or guzan

I think Westwood and Sanchez are very average, with cleverly signing for another club and our distinct lack of full backs aswell as limited firepower with benteke leaving its going to be one heck of a busy summer for the club!

Players I'd like to see in:
Trippier Burnley
Roberston hull
Dembele spurs
Ayew Marseille
Sertic Bordeaux
Austin qpr
Phillips qpr
Dos Santos Villarreal
Another keeper (Brentford keeper?)
Another center half

03 Jun 2015 15:54:55
I think Sherwood will try and dispose of the following, as he will need to sell to bolster his presumably limited transfer budget.

Gil - He doesn't seem to rate him
Sanchez - only uses him as a late sub
Cissokho - Prefers attacking wingers
Weimann - Seems out of favour

The players away on loan (Sylla, Bennett, Luna, Helenius, Tonev et al) I think he will want to look at them in pre season as they might just fit well with his philosophy. Same goes for Kozak and Senderos as he hasn't had the chance to see them in action.

I think a few will go but not as many as some people are suggesting - hence his 'we need to change the (losing) mentality of some of the ones we've got speech.

03 Jun 2015 08:10:15
The weaknesses have been described well here, but I don't see the of needlessly buying players. Gil shouldn't be forgotten and Sanchez is a pretty good enforcer.

If Benny stays, I'd like to see money spent on a quality goal scorer who can partner him.

03 Jun 2015 07:39:30
Cleverley is the new Ray Wilkins. Worth keeping if the price's right.

03 Jun 2015 15:35:42
If only to sell him on in January and make a profit.