Aston Villa Banter Archive August 28 2016

 

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28 Aug 2016 19:40:48
Hull have apparently bid 14 million for kodija, only a guess but does that mean hernandez is off? but then rumours of us and adomah?, what we are missing is a jack of all trades, a winger/ attacking midfielder/ forward-what do you lot think about anthony pilkington? he does all 3 and he's a grafter.

cardiff owe us a favour, what with the bennett deal, so why not make a cheeky bid, i've heard he's not impressed with the revolving doors of managers and staff, so get him in and let him loose.



29 Aug 2016 06:55:23
Pilkington would be a very useful squad player, good call 👍🏻

UTV.



29 Aug 2016 12:11:10
errrrrrrrrrrrrr. no average at best, one top game in 10 we need better, now the klingons gone, kozak bacuna and cissokho arethe ones who should follow.



30 Aug 2016 11:30:23
Regarding pilkington, have you seen what he's playing with, and the many different positions they've played him in? the fact the worst the journo's could level at him was that he was 'average' when they played him in defence to me speaks volumes for his willing versatility to do whatever job for the good of the team, and the fact he didn't stamp his feet, just did the job and got a 6 out of 10,to me, i want him in my team, that's a true grafter and team player there fellas, end of!



28 Aug 2016 19:47:16
nice to be looking up the table for a change, are hernandez, ayew, mccormack too alike in style young gollini looks too error prone for me, maybe RDM should have gone for a keeper with more experience. de laet is a good signing hutton hasn't had pressure for right back for too long i like to see a more 'solid' spine to the sideif we'd lasted 5 more minutes v sheffield, e should have buried huddersfield, and we looked well in order for a win v derby we'd have had 12 points and the world would be a happy place, but i'm enjoying what i sees so far. tony, get that bloody north stand down, if we getinto top4 the stadium won't be big enough.



28 Aug 2016 20:27:23
Errr can you repeat that mate i don't quite understand!



29 Aug 2016 08:52:37
What on earth is he on about nice to be looking up the table.



29 Aug 2016 12:30:32
devlins engage both brain cells, you'll work it out.



28 Aug 2016 17:30:34
If we can't sell gabby agbonlahor would anybody bring him back into the villa squad?



28 Aug 2016 18:04:13
Id rather rubbish myself than see him in a villa shirt ever again.



28 Aug 2016 18:04:21
Yes with the right attitude, half the player ayew these days in terms of ability but heart, desire and passion beats ability every day when ability is lazy, greedy and uninterested. However it is a big IF as I can't see him having the right attitude.



28 Aug 2016 18:10:05
Heard this on local radio suggested. Before pipe gate I would have said he could do a job in EFL and he has got the weight off. But I never want to see him in the shirt again! He stepped over the line big time and disrespected us all. Thanks for the good days but need to sign someone new and who will fit in with the new players! UTV.



28 Aug 2016 18:46:52
Effectively you are asking the question " would you like someone in the side much worse than what we have at the moment? "
I can't see any valid answer than a resounding NO!



28 Aug 2016 19:14:25
i was looking to the bench last game and we didn't have any attacking players really on the bench so i just thought i would ask the question and maybe hope his learnt his lesson? if nobody wants him and we are paying him just wondered if his worth a punt? as usual i respect everybodys views its a sore subject as really 1 of our own turned bad against us but ayew commitment isn't good either!



28 Aug 2016 22:34:38
Feel Villa have got it all wrong when it comes to getting rid of players. If you look at Tottenham they keep players involved even if it is rotational off the bench and always seem to get a fee for the players they are looking to move on. We have this ridiculous bomb squad where we pay players for doing nothing not in the shop window so end up giving them away paying up contracts or paying others to take them.



28 Aug 2016 23:29:59
You can't compare our situation with that at Tottenham. They are in the top half of premier league and their bomb squad are still pretty decent. We have done brilliantly to get our turkeys off the wage bill.
You are looking for stuff to moan about. The club have done a great job.



29 Aug 2016 08:13:44
I'm not just talking about Tottenham now but looking at them historically they have always done it. I'm sure it is down to Daniel Levy and his sound business mind but you never see them getting ripped off and are always in for the young promising players around the leagues pulling off real transfer coupes at prices that are right for Tottenham Hostspur.



29 Aug 2016 08:30:24
You're right they have. But they wouldn't have been able to do it in our position with the rubbish we bought last season.



29 Aug 2016 09:19:34
I'm not sure we are two clubs, especially at the present, that can be compared as similar.
They are premier league, we are not.
They are pushing for champions league, possibly national champions, we are not!

And history doesn't always say mr Levy was this shrewd.
I'll give you two examples, sol Campbell and adebayor.

Figures, stats and pretty much anything can be twisted to read anyway you want.

The fact is, rightly or wrongly we have a group of players at villa that we don't want there, have poisoned our dressing room, and taken an obscene salary for at least one season, and have in my opinion made them selves unsellable.

Gabby is to me a different point in the making, as part of me thinks, given a chance he may be useful, as I think his stupidity and being in a comfort zone allowed the last few years surface.

To me he would never be a starter, but possibly from the bench. But I'm not sold.

One question though.
If a player has served the club well, and come near the end of their contract, is it morally right to restrict their future career/ movement by asked a new suiter to pay over the odds?
If they want to leave, having held up their end of a deal, is it fair to play hard ball on THEIR future?

If you seriously, with your rose tinted glasses off, think it is, I give you Daniel levy.
Personally, on a moral stand point, don't.



29 Aug 2016 09:53:29
I don't get how a club like Southampton can sell on their 'kids' for £20M+ prices when it seems like our kids win a lot more silverware than them, and that they're a smaller club than us? Spuds have bought very well from lower divisions and you can say the same but make that £30M+ kids if they sell on. Same if your a Belgian player. I think this stuff just goes in cycles and Levy has been very lucky, add to that that Spuds are in the Prem, based in London where all players seem to want to be ( and Manchester, Liverpool) Our time will come again. If it sounds like I've rambled, it's just stuff that's popped into my head lol

UTV.



{Ed001's Note - it is because Saints put their kids in the first team early, so they get experience and improve. Villa wins silverware at youth level because very few of the kids are moved up when they are ready and instead kept back to win pointless trophies. Youth development is not about winning matches, it is about preparing players for the first team.}

29 Aug 2016 10:11:08
It's a tough one that ed, because I do agree, it's not the be all and end all of winning as a younger player/ pro. However, it is a great habit to get.
I totally agree with your point that we don't promote enough youth to the playing side, we often have them on the bench, but rarely on the pitch!
It's a double edged sword. Obviously you want success, who doesn't, and obviously you want to see the team and players progress to be first team members, but as a coach, and as a player you get blinded by results!
I don't really know of a solution to it, as the old saying goes, if your good enough, your old enough!
Perhaps our youth has hit the ceiling, to good for that level, not good enough for the first team?
It always said volumes to me when KM get to reins, very few youth got their chance. Now if anyone was on a hiding to nothing to promote from with in it was him!
Yet, he didn't!



29 Aug 2016 18:19:03
I remember watching our youth team murder Everton's youth team in an FA cup final over 2 legs. We had the better 11; they had a 15 year old Wayne Rooney. I know which I would have preferred. I agree with Ed, youth teams are about breeding players rather than winning trophies.



29 Aug 2016 18:37:13
It's a good point mate.



29 Aug 2016 19:38:11
That's my one for the year Flackie.



29 Aug 2016 20:48:34
lol I'm holding mine back for a few months!



29 Aug 2016 23:31:23
I was wondering mate.



28 Aug 2016 16:36:53
Have i wrote us no did i say i want manager sacked no all i said was that rdm can't motivate the team that's what it looks like to me. I've played pro an been at some decent teams . so if i was in a team that gives up after 50 mins wouldn't be happy don't u think its dwn to the manager.



28 Aug 2016 16:53:02
I don't belive you can blame just the manager because what about the 1st half when we can be 3 or 4 up do you praise him then? We have to take responsibility as a collective team for some reason we come out poor 2nd halfs. But i belive we will keep trying and as a football club we will get it right maybe when we are wining games we should make ourselfs a bit more solid but the fact is fitness and concentration let's us down sometimes and your can't afford to do that in football no matter what level!



28 Aug 2016 17:00:43
That's right, you would rather be a fan that's gives up 5 games into a season.



28 Aug 2016 17:16:28
i don't belive his given up flackie i think all us fans are frustrated but i really belive we have to much for this league just waiting 4 it to click!



28 Aug 2016 17:27:28
If you've played pro why don't you go show them how it's done? Oh Na your just starting negativity because of one game, some pro you are.



28 Aug 2016 17:57:38
You seriously think that the poison from last few seasons can be lost after a relegation, and change in manager?

And then when it takes longer than five games, less than 500minutes, to sort you jump on their backs, ride the manager, and you really think this helps?



28 Aug 2016 19:50:54
Fair to say that in any 45 mins we were unrecognisable from the last few seasons. Creating chances scoring goals making tackles finding passes just like a proper team. We took Huddersfield apart for an hour until Wells came on and they raised their game. Taking chances will allow us to relax into the season and build confidence. We will succeed and good times are on the way. Believe and never doubt this new team. UTV.



28 Aug 2016 20:31:12
Spot on!

Well said alter ego!



28 Aug 2016 15:14:55
We bought Ross McCormack because he scores goals in this league we paid a whopping fee for him now his not scoring goals we are now going to go out and buy some1 else another player who we all begged to keep ayew isn't scoring either could it be that its not the strikers and our style of play? Because Ross McCormack isn't missing chances he's not getting chances! 4 4 2 please and get crosses in!



28 Aug 2016 16:43:17
It seems like we're using McCormack as a No10 when he scored his goals as a No9? Looking at all that's happened so far, it's a finisher we need, not a target man, not someone with pace, a finisher and although he's not world class, neither were Lineker, Kerry Dixon, proper goal machines, the man that ticks that box is Jordan Rhodes, would cost half of what Hernandez would, has played with Rudy and McCormack, get shot of Ayew too, would even consider a swap with Rhodes for him. All is not lost, we're creating chances, just not converting them, there 50+ goals between Rudy, McCormack and Rhodes.

UTV.



28 Aug 2016 17:00:18
I'd take that to be fare. ayew to me just don't look botherd and it baffled me after a couple of games when people were saying he was our best player. looked lazy gready and like he thinks he's above us. I'd not be one little bit botherd if he were to leave.



28 Aug 2016 17:17:50
Ditto all the above KingVilla, his heart's not in it

UTV.



28 Aug 2016 17:29:07
Sell ayew get Rhodes, get adomah aswell, Gustede and Rhodes up top, McCormack behind them, grealish and adomah free roles out wide, that's the best attack in the league.



28 Aug 2016 19:54:03
are hernandez, ayew, mccormack too alike?



28 Aug 2016 14:45:57
Can we rename this page Aston villa whinge? Yes everyone is entitled to an opinion but it's banter not we are doomed already site! Throw my 2p's worth in now. anyone that thought Aston villa was a quick fix is deluded! We have a chairman that is now as open as can be compared to what we did have. a team that I think will eventually not sh*t themselves on the ball like how many previous seasons!

Kingvilla it's deadline week. who we signing?



28 Aug 2016 15:21:12
Spot on mate.
Least I'm not the only one saying it!



28 Aug 2016 16:19:54
it's impossible to say all I will say is I think we will sign 3 to 4 players still. hernandez will be the statement signing if we can get it done. but as for others who knows.



28 Aug 2016 16:32:25
I agree mate. I love a moan as much as most but I am tiring of the mob that now don't seem happy unless they are attacking the team
If we were 10 games in and showing no improvement I could understand. But we are not.



28 Aug 2016 17:01:09
here here.



28 Aug 2016 17:32:05
5 games in and we have showed huge improvement imo, first half of every game we should have been out of site because we are taking the game to teams and creating chances we just have struggled finishing them, we aren't rolling over every week like last season, the positive signs are there ands free this break where all the players are in other than Chester we should judge them on the 5 games from there. UTV!



28 aug 2016 20:00:59
we could have had 12 points at the mo if we'd held on 5 mins at sheffield, we deserved to beat huddersfield . and derby leading v bristol then screwed up, i like looking table for the first time in some young upporters lifetimes, all in all i'm a happy bunny dr. t
never mind players, get the north end of the stadium sorted, when we're top v. p. won't be big enough.



28 Aug 2016 14:36:03
Albert adomah linked I like him.



29 Aug 2016 12:35:51
adomah might just be the one that gets gestede into double figures goals this year.



28 Aug 2016 14:45:57
Can we rename this page Aston villa whinge? Yes everyone is entitled to an opinion but it's banter not we are doomed already site! Throw my 2p's worth in now. anyone that thought Aston villa was a quick fix is deluded! We have a chairman that is now as open as can be compared to what we did have. a team that I think will eventually not sh*t themselves on the ball like how many previous seasons!

Kingvilla it's deadline week. who we signing?



28 Aug 2016 14:36:03
Albert adomah linked I like him.



28 Aug 2016 14:06:31
Anyway chris avfc what is wrong in saying i'd of gone for someone else its my view mate . everyone has different thoughts an views that's what this site is mate oh and i am behind the team an manager.



28 Aug 2016 17:33:04
Because it ent helping anyone? Just looking for other people to moan aswell, the post didn't look like you was behind the team at all.



28 Aug 2016 13:52:22
Ive just seen we have bid 20mil for hernandez good player very good but is he worth 20 mil.



28 Aug 2016 14:48:50
in this crazy market as it is if he gets 20 goals and helps get us up I'd say yes he is.



28 Aug 2016 14:48:50
in this crazy market as it is if he gets 20 goals and helps get us up I'd say yes he is.



29 Aug 2016 12:21:55
i hope we get to see.



28 Aug 2016 13:04:28
Just a thought i'm not calling the manager but it seems to me he can't motivate the team we play well for 45 mins an that's it either that or players not fit . if it was me i'd of gone for steve bruce or big mick mcarthy . i want rdm to do well but i don't think he can motivate the team.



28 Aug 2016 13:19:45
Jesus Christ!

This site is painful sometimes!
First loss in league this season and people calling for whole sale changes!
We got relegated last year, with three managers! I know let's try for some longevity, and create something.
Last years demons are hard to shift, everyone jumping on the bandwagon really helps!



28 Aug 2016 13:30:58
We have lost 2 games mate.



28 Aug 2016 13:39:07
Was going to say I agree about not calling for the managers head but yea we've lost 2 games this season lol, either way tho saying things like "I'd have gone for mick or Steve Bruce" you just sound like a clown, get behind the boys there's 123 points to play for fgs.



28 Aug 2016 14:01:25
I know they they is mate i sound like a clown what do clowns sounds like mate . we will be lucky to pick up 20 points mate not 125 mate.



28 Aug 2016 14:16:11
League.



28 Aug 2016 14:16:40
I did forget about Wednesday! I'll give you that!



28 Aug 2016 14:35:35
Mate well said mate listen to him mate he knows everything mate.
Ffs. Has the season already been decided then?

You sound like a clown as you talk out of something you should sit on, with absolutes.

The transfer window hasn't closed and you have wrote us off.
God I wish you could block people on this site!



28 Aug 2016 14:35:35
Mate well said mate listen to him mate he knows everything mate.
Ffs. Has the season already been decided then?

You sound like a clown as you talk out of something you should sit on, with absolutes.

The transfer window hasn't closed and you have wrote us off.
God I wish you could block people on this site!



28 Aug 2016 15:01:28
Villa80, we are all disappointed in yesterday's result, but as Flackie said, we are a work in progress! Everything at our club is new (apart from the moaning) so will take time to gel. Please, for gods sake get some perspective! Give it a couple of months at least!
And, stop using the word 'mate' like a frickin full stop!



28 Aug 2016 17:59:16
Exactly flackie, 5 games in and people are saying "I didn't want RDM in the first place" absolute nightmares, looking for more negativity from everyone.



29 Aug 2016 12:41:43
careful flackie you might be the first who would get blocked but seriously i do think a block facility on the site would be a good idea, there are to many getting personal with insults and that's NOT what the site is about.



28 Aug 2016 12:04:53
So do we believe villa have bid 20m for hernandez.



28 Aug 2016 14:52:07
yes as we need a goal getter and lots of players we have been in talks with have not come off. as tony has said they been working hard but it's tough. lots of teams who want same players.



28 Aug 2016 20:15:02
we need a goal maker, not just a scorer. fact is the forwards we have are all similar, kozak's game looks long gone even accepting without game time, and injuries, i'm concerned bout young gollini who appears to be an'unlucky' type RDM i think should have gone for experience, we can't expect promotion or play offs if the keeper costs us points. too many suspensions could do the same.



28 Aug 2016 11:50:44
Update from lanzarote glad I couldn't find a bar to watch the match but some Geordie's had great pleasure in letting me know the score I soon reminded them of the sob on the Tyne is it too early for a San Miguel? Oh sorry my 3rd San Miguel enjoy villians.



28 Aug 2016 11:42:11
Need new signings still

Marshall off Cardiff
Iorfa off wolves
Knockart Brighton
Hernandez hull

Starting 11
Marshall
Iorfa elphick Chester Amavi
Jedinak tish
Knockart McCormack grealish
Hernandez

Gollini-de laet-baker-Westwood-Gardner -ayew-gestede.



28 Aug 2016 11:58:21
Marshal goung to hull.



28 Aug 2016 14:55:30
already looked at ifora wolves wanted 15 million plus we have just bought a decent rb. I'd agree with others though if we could get them.



28 Aug 2016 20:20:02
amavi has got a big job, massive injury or not, i wouldn't like the left back become a problem area again. maybe a new l/ b might be a good move, how come our champions leage star bacuna is still at villa? cissokho was called by brendan rogers as the worst full back he'd seen i don't likerogers but i think he's right.



28 Aug 2016 10:08:13
We have had a very inconsistent start, which I think we expected but we have to remain positive there is still 41 games to
go! You have to remember we have signed 7/ 8 players and there going to need time to gel, this international break I think will certain help is us as although a few players will be away he can work with a lot of them! I also think it's down to fitness in the fact that we are playing so well in the first half and not so well in the second!

Also I think you have to remember in every game this season we could have been out of sight by half time so we just need to start scoring!

Regarding transfers I think we need 2 strikers, an attacking mid and for me a goalkeeper just to take the pressure of Gollini a bit.



28 Aug 2016 08:49:12
In my opinion owner manager doing great it will take time agreed but whilst certain players around 1st team we will loose as ayew strolls round like he's Maradona and don't look interested Westwood has played alright but just isn't good enough same goes for bacuna has done ok this season but isn't good enough and same for cissoko too we need an experienced keeper yes striker yes am yes cb for cover too and a winger I'd also like to see 2 young strikers on bench and given chance in Hepburn Murphy and davis.



If we do end the season in 15th, then i would be worried if i supported SAFC, as we are at least 5 places better. So you've signed Johnson, good player, but no top team were after him (does that give you a hint), and Fletcher (relegated twice with different teams, and at best a 1 in 3 scoring record). So you will end the season one of the lowest scoring sides, and will no doubt concede hat loads, due to your poor defence.



28 Aug 2016 06:51:08
Where did DiM get Goal ina the net from.
My old Mom would do better.
Guzan would do better.
This guy's confidence must be rock bottom following his performancos.
The tim e to ring changes is getting short.



28 Aug 2016 00:07:45
I know its only five games been played but i'm worried already we have a loosing mentality which we can't get rid of an it could cost us big time my fear is after 10 games we will be left behind . for me newcastle are going to smash the league up they have class all over there squad . our squad lacks quality . rdm should of put his mark on this team as soon as he knew he would get the job . nxt 5 games are crucial for me its going to tell us where we are going to be challenging . one more point hope wednesday we sign the players that we need.



28 Aug 2016 08:32:41
I have thought all along that as we buy in new players there will need to be time for the system and adjustments to embed. We have the optomism of the new owners and manager but it will take time to wash out all the negativity and lack of confidence from the last few seasons. I have looked at games so far and first half performances should have killed off matches. At times we have looked different class to opposition in the first half. Perhaps by not killing games that confidence self doubting creeps in for second half, giving opposition against the might AVFC a lift, plus let's remember we were the laziest squad in the country so perhaps there is a touch of fitness with some of last years players still involved. The new players need to gel and RDM needs not only a system to suit the signings but also a plan B for second halves. We need a goal scorer for sure with Libor now miles off the pace as only really cover for the half time forking grounds staff! I believe we will struggle till Nov mid table and then kick on to the play offs. If we put a run together now perhaps we can dream. Can't afford to lose too many more games over the next 2 months VTID!



27 Aug 2016 23:24:53
Just got back from the match today same old story first half fantastic should have been outsight. 2nd half awful two of the goals were the goalkeeping error I think 1st 1 definitely 2nd the free kick his positioning was terrible showed far to much! On the plus side grealish had a great game again it's going to take time to gel. ayew was awful he just don't look intrested very sulky selfish player he need to go in my view! UTV KEEP THE FAITH AVFC.