Aston Villa Banter Archive May 24 2016

 

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24 May 2016 22:39:46
Soon to be new owner has given interview to telegraph and said he will be our owner and paddy will be going, according to report matteo in by Friday.



24 May 2016 23:13:45
Just read his interview, how people can doubt this guy is beyond me!
He is the real deal!



24 May 2016 23:26:22
Think your correct Flackie, this man will bring back glory days to the club if given the chance to, at last an article with some good points.



25 May 2016 08:10:00
I think some of you guys may feel very foolish if this deal gets completed an we start leveraging money against the club to bank roll transfers, I really hope I'm wrong but like I've said in other posts look out for the guys lurking in the background.



25 May 2016 15:13:05
People do realise owners can't just come in and throw money at the club for transfers. the club needs to make money because of financial fair play.



25 May 2016 17:52:31
Or just pay the fine like Man City did . I guess it depends on how rich you are .



25 May 2016 18:26:12
since last season fifa, fair play rules were relaxed, that is why man city were able to spend over 100m on players.



24 May 2016 22:04:09
Matteo and a hungry Dwight Yorke as assistant both champions league winners and both got a point to prove thoughts?



24 May 2016 23:14:20
Fingers crossed!



25 May 2016 16:07:46
If Dwight is hungry, perhaps he could eat Gabby. That would kill two birds with one stone. Mind you, it'll take him a while.



24 May 2016 21:40:07
So Barton's off to Rangers? Who's our midfield destroyer that don't cost much, preferably from the Brittish Isles with Championship experience going to come from? I can't think of any?

UTV.



24 May 2016 23:03:58
Charlie Adam?
Similar to joey, but goals!



24 May 2016 22:00:28
Steven quinn from reading, good engine.



25 May 2016 13:25:31
Kevin Nolan for a year?



25 May 2016 13:26:44
Cancel that make it Gary Gardner, Forrest want to keep him there but get him back and give him a starting place.



25 May 2016 22:18:51
Kevin Nolan! Are you joking?



25 May 2016 22:59:21
If Nolan is the answer, I'm confused as to what the question is.



24 May 2016 19:57:38
Where's Flackie? Has he gone and disappeared on one on holiday - given up the fight and joined the rest of his in-laws on a victory tour of Thailand, or just lost the will to live. Come back Flackie - we love you really.



24 May 2016 20:53:23
Thank you mate! I Think!
I'm still here! Just a little gob smacked with all these daft negative posts, so have been quiet, through fear of saying something to upset!



24 May 2016 21:33:23
Chicken.



24 May 2016 21:34:23
Let rip Flackie, what are you thinking?

UTV.



24 May 2016 23:02:26
We wait for years for someone to come and try to be our saviour, because our yanker wasn't what he promised, and before the guy has come through the door, we are claiming he is a failure!
Do people seriously think Lerner would risk giving the club away to someone who can't pay?
Do we seriously think that the people behind the scenes have got this far with out proof, evidence and assurances?
He comes from a country with more secrets than any other, wealth is not easy to find out about there, but this economy is growing quicker and bigger than any other in history.

Then we come to the management saga!
'. now he has turned down, now he going here. '
Get a grip!
Or people calling for Pearson, because of all his experience!
Now I'm not going to talk about my thoughts on this guy, as I've made this known! But his experience and track record?!
He almost got Leicester relegated, they where bottom all season, and yes he pulled them clear. But. That same team, with a better coach, won the championship! And we want him?!

Our fans or now so negative on everything!
Why would anyone want the come to us, as owner, or manager, let alone future players, when as soon as they come through the door, we label them a failure, and start planning to get them out?

I love this club, and mostly I love out support. But find the poisonous attitude by some is killing the whole out look. It's infectious, and spreading. We are in danger of being consumed by it, once that happens, we are totally screwed.



24 May 2016 23:04:29
Thanks villadaz! Lol.



24 May 2016 23:17:58
Yes flackie! Spot on mate!



24 May 2016 23:37:36
I often am, but I'm with you more than normal on this one Flackie
Whether or not Xia proves to be a success or not, he has to be given a chance
A lot of our support seem to be acting like those fans who slag off the first bad touch from a prospect from the youth ranks (we've all sat next to them)
We luxuriate in being dour and morose.



25 May 2016 00:27:02
Flackie, we have in our time been accused of being bullies, simply by telling they are wrong . I can understand you're frustration with some of the rubbish that has been posted at times . As iv said before, a few on here do a lot of reading, but not a lot of thinking . They would for some reason write.



25 May 2016 03:49:50
Agree flackie.



25 May 2016 05:36:25
I've never thought of Pearson that way before Flackie, I get it now, i just think we should get the best manager possible, not one that's 'available'. Didn't we pay the Nose £5M for McLeish? If we've hopefully got money to burn, without sounding like a broken record, get Alladyce, then watch us fly

UTV.



25 May 2016 07:42:26
Your welcome Flackie👍👍👍.



25 May 2016 07:47:20
By the way flacks good post what I was thinking but couldn't be bothered to write it in would have got writers cramp or something more which ment my hand would have been out of action for ages and I can Ill afford to do that 😂.



25 May 2016 07:56:54
Just threw up in my mouth! 😳.



25 May 2016 08:23:39
Best get some listerine then 😂.



25 May 2016 08:39:23
I would say get a grip, but after your last post, you already have!



25 May 2016 08:47:30
Haha mate.



25 May 2016 18:04:39
Well said Flackie. Now let's look forward with hope and keep the faith. The atmosphere against the Jimmy 5 bellies and his mates was cracking and more of the same is required next season. Let's make Lotus Villa Park ours again no boos or dodgy banners. Let's show our new owners, management and players what we are about every week. VTID. Oh and villdaz it's not big and it's not clever.



25 May 2016 21:34:30
What isn't jam dog?



24 May 2016 17:28:28
There is a very simple solution here to clear everything up, all old xtc dr. xia needs to do (apart from making plans for nigel) is be transparent, form an account, let mervyn king confirm he's put all the dough in that account to take care of buying us, the transfer kitty, running costs etc, and let mervyn be an executive of that account, independant and able to report any infractions, say he put in 500 million, that'll take care of business, and seeing as he's a billionaire, its not like he needs to worry, i'm sure he earns enough just through interest alone, i know he won't do this;but it might stop all the chinese whispers and press intrusion, but hey, maybe that's rocket science.



24 May 2016 18:32:10
Any publicity is better than no publicity.

Is this all part of getting villa in the media here and in China? Could this be part of making us a well known force out there? He has the highest of connections out there so keeping us in the papers creates interest and hopefully a fan base.



24 May 2016 20:10:12
Spending it, or telling other people what they should do with their money is always simple isn't it.



24 May 2016 21:37:06
Sounds like a plan 82, but have KingVilla in charge of that account?

UTV.



24 May 2016 21:15:23
Nothing is simple, but if want everyone moving in the same direction, and your overseers are the chinese mafia, i mean government, i would have thought the longer it drags out with negative overtones, the mud thrown sticks, not what i think they envisaged? hence make the deal transparent and hey presto everyone is rowing in the same direction!, but like you say, talk is cheap, a case of wait and see i guess.



25 May 2016 00:23:47
Yeah, like you say Allyp1972 maybe kingvilla in charge, mervyn king backing him up and ken bates doing the tax returns, how can it go wrong!
done and dusted.



25 May 2016 11:21:34
Delboy as manager, and I don't mean Redknapp lol 😂

UTV.



24 May 2016 17:27:34
Managers pulling out left right and centre. says who. The papers. get a grip . The man himself said he has a manager and will be announced this week so because papers have no idea what's going on make rubbish up. has any manager come out and said they pulled out. no they haven't. its like people want bad news to be true about villa. not 1 single person has any evidence to their claims.



24 May 2016 18:19:51
i agree i said this earlier mate UTV.



24 May 2016 20:11:59
Shame Dwight Yorke's not in the frame for the job then as history says he's incapable of pulling out .



24 May 2016 16:07:37
Personally I think Quique flores (former Watford manager) could be a good shout don't know why he hasn't been mentioned. Will be settled in England knows the championship and the premier league. Got good blend of football and gets best out of players and isn't too bad in transfer market defo worth a mention . Anyone else agree?



24 May 2016 16:22:53
how does he know the championship. he took over Watford as a premiership side. that's why he's not been mentioned. if we going for good manager but with no championship experience there are loads of managers we could go for.



24 May 2016 17:19:22
Mentioned him along with several out of work managers that would fit the bill some weeks back.
There are so many proven runners that should be considered before a final decision is made.
The problem we have is that none of the selectors seem to agree and the managers that they want don't want AVFC.
At present we are a poison chalice known for more managers than transfers and until a solid base is in place AVFC are a very unattractive option, even if you are out of work.
Kingvilla, you clearly stated that the new manager had already been employed and the announcement would follow the name of the new owner. It would appear that this was a bit of a fantasy on your part.
Now I am not getting at you as you did come up with the Chinese buyer but I will not be asking you for this week's lottery numbers.



24 May 2016 17:16:08
I thought flores was off to valencia, apparently 2 other clubs in spain and italy taking a gander at him also.



24 May 2016 20:13:53
nigel pearson had been agreed. that's what I was on about. I'd herd that he would go with the choice of hollis and a deal was in place for Pearson but now the good doctor wants to look about. so my claims at the time were right oldvillan.



24 May 2016 21:23:10
Valencia announced their manager today and it wasn't QSF but I think he has bigger fish to fry anyway.



24 May 2016 15:34:17
It doesn't matter which manager we end up with because the press will make it appear that he was our only option anyway, also it's astonishing that the press don't yet know for certain who will be our manager and yet they seem to know who our board members will be, When you consider that Mr Xia was reluctant to name candidates for the managerial job it is highly unlikely that he named potential board members!



24 May 2016 14:57:29
Roll on the Euro's, then the press will turn their attention to ripping the England squad apart, don't you just love the incredible lengths the British press go to to create scandle to sell their papers.



24 May 2016 17:16:53
Come on, we wouldn't have it any other way!



24 May 2016 11:51:29
Never heard so much negative comments about the takeover do we honestly believe that he hasn't got money. To buy the club I believe Due Diligence period you have to prove your funds to get access to the books. And as for us becoming Chinese feeder club I don't care where there from if there good enough to get Villa back to premiership and in to top half of the league plus work permits will stop that happening all I am saying is get behind the takeover we have no choice.



24 May 2016 13:08:15
I agree. In light of all the current negativity around the new ownership, perhaps the Numptys who walked out of numerous games last season have got so used to it that they don’t feel they can now break the habit in time for the beginning of next season so are starting an immediate ‘Xia Out’ campaign so they can justify their continued behavior from day 1 of the Championship. I bet they’ve already made the banners.



24 May 2016 14:59:50
Gentlemen, the points you make are right, and maybe because of the lerner years and the broken promises there's a more dour approach by a very few of us 'doubting thomas's', so do i want him to be knickerbocker glory of an owner, yep, i'll have a rum barba too! but to use a quote'show me the money', that's all i'm saying., never happen i know, but there you go!



24 May 2016 15:12:45
sorry guys i'm not going to go all gooey eyed an weak at the knees just because some guy who is quite clearly blowing out of proportion his wealth starts waving million dollar cheques in the air

the 2 guys in the background samuelson and banfill are the ones we should be concerned about because i have a nasty feeling that the good Dr is just their front man and we are going to find ourselves in one hell of a mess very soon

i for one am really hoping now that is takeover collapses as i now feel it might.



24 May 2016 10:55:56
I wonder if Xia instead of building around VP he can build a school to educate some villa fans thoughts?



24 May 2016 11:38:37
I think they need it villadaz. Lerner out Lerner out. now i'm hearing dr xia out dr xia out. the guy is not even through the door yet. give the man a chance for God sake. you will all love him in the next few years i'm sure of that.



24 May 2016 15:03:02
Kingy, maybe dr. xia ain't through the door because he ain't the right fit, let's see him do the dance of 'prove your finance' and then he salsa his butt by that door!



24 May 2016 16:25:43
and he will believe me. I'll change my name to Mr knows nothing if he does not end up owner. the guy had plenty of money.



24 May 2016 17:22:43
Thought you were Kingvilla, not Know it all!



24 May 2016 10:38:22
looks to me like dr xia does not want Pearson as being as he was hollis and Lerner choice surly by now they would have him in if they were going to as so much work to do. I'm glad it's not moyes and don't want martinez either as he can't organise a defence to save his life. Di matteo I'd give a chance but if he ends up going to lazio I think it's time to give Neil warnock a ring. he wants a job for 1 year in the championship with a chance of winning promotion. he has a great record of getting promotion over the years so for me could be a good fit for one season and then get our man next summer hopefully as a prem team again and Dr xia offering big funds.



24 May 2016 13:12:46
I've been saying warnock for weeks and every time I've been shot down, as you say he knows the league can motivate players and takes no crap, is this not exactly what we need right now?



24 May 2016 09:48:46
I see Jack-The Lad scored 2 in the England U-21 win last night. That should boost his transfer value (as well as his not-inconsiderable ego)



24 May 2016 10:23:04
for the last time we have our manager he said that last week he is just waiting to announce it due to these checks everybody calm down moyes was not offered the job nigel pearson has said nothink nor has roberto di matteo so calm down patience this fantasy that people are turning us down is stupid the manager is sorted. papers get paid to right rubbish us as fans have know excuse just wait he only said give me 1 week. nobody knows anythink let xia work his magic and then roar us lions to the premiership!



24 May 2016 12:45:30
I'll agree with that.



24 May 2016 09:28:49
Hi all, my first time posting on here after following you all for about 12 months.
First off, I can not believe or the negative comments on here about the new owner. The bloke hasn't even got his feet under the table yet and some are avin a pop. Let's wait and see if he's true to his word without driving him out before he's started.
2nd, he's already said he won't get involved in team affairs and he will bring over some Asian players as an exchange thing. Don't see it being a problem to be honest.
And 3Rd, when Tony was interviewed he said he already had a manager in place and was waiting a wk to announce it so don't believe the papers who couldn't even guess who the owner was. UTV.



24 May 2016 10:54:17
Welcome hodgo.



24 May 2016 09:26:00
Plenty of rubbish in all the papers. All trying to discredit our new owner. Reminds me of when we won the league and Ipswich were the darlings of the media. We won the league and European Cup and then they all started sucking up to us. Let them write their daily tripe and let us hope we can make them eat their words.



24 May 2016 08:47:57
Another day another bright and cheery start, so now nasty nigel doesn't want to come to us, that dr. xia and his people are doing a stand up job so far, i can't see a problem with us strolling to promotion with at least, what; ten games still to go! how does it go from chinese translation : leaders walk the walk, and bull talks the talk, from what i've seen so far dr. xia must have a masters and phd in talking!

why don't we just sell the rights and make this into a carry on movie, its got all the ingredients, a delusional man with a plan, or is it a scam, time will tell but so far, the reconn group might as well sponsor us next season, and to save them money i suggest shortening their name to a 3 letter word on the jerseys, we can be sponsored by 'CON', i think it fits the bill perfectly, what a farce! boy is the birmingham mail going to nail us to the cross.



24 May 2016 09:32:27
I rest my case your honour!



24 May 2016 15:05:13
Guilty as charged!



24 May 2016 08:49:02
No wonder we struggled to sell our club with some fans moaning and bitching for God's sake we have a man worth billions who is willing to pump millions into our club sit down and think things through before you post because some of the posts are more ridiculous than Small Heath.



24 May 2016 10:07:09
Xia is worth millions, not billions.

clue is that he is a "millionaire"



24 May 2016 11:04:34
Sorry dave I bow down to your superior knowledge I just thought HIS companies are worth billions silly me!



24 May 2016 09:25:35
Glad to see the turmoil hasn't dulled your passion fella, with all due courtesy, if moyesy and now nigel both have decided to look elsewhere than that, surely, should raise a flag that either the budget or plans are a bit suspect, or has someone had a word in their ear in regard to the 'new' owners, maybe its a cultural thing or maybe the colour of the wallpaper, who knows, but to raise questions when something which seamed straight forward goes wrong is normal i think.



24 May 2016 11:55:20
Cheers class82 or maybe it's just paper talk or maybe it's just the fact that nothing will be done till the all clear is given fact of the matter is bud we have the chance of building something here then when rumours start it gets knocked down that's why I never buy papers as they print tripe.



24 May 2016 12:52:39
some papers say millionaire some say billionaire. don't belive anything they put fatdave. trust me when I say he's very much a billionaire. I've done over 12 hours of checking this man out and he has a lot of money and will pass all tests easy. he is also close to buying a company in America for 3.5 billion. multiple billionaire trust me.



24 May 2016 08:10:21
More gossip today that Nigel Pearson is about to drop out of the running for the Villa job. Just a single source at the moment with little to corroborate it but the media has picked up on it.

Just to reiterate: Moyes was unhappy about the transfer budget and by the desire by Xia to get involved in transfer decisions.

There is a cultural issue here that sometimes the UK doesn't get. In Asia, the owner gets involved in the running of sports clubs - its the norm. Xia expects this and wants to raise the profile of Villa in Asia (especially China) by bringing in Asian players.

Standby also on Xia being approved as new owner. Lots of concern about exactly how much money his has. More importantly, there are worries about the legitimacy of his business claims.



24 May 2016 08:48:51
from where. where are you getting this info or is this just your opinion. sounds a load of bs to me. I've done a lot of checks on this guy and trust me he has money and he will pass all tests.



24 May 2016 08:51:10
Moyes dropped out because he wants the everton. Thought that was fairly obvious.



24 May 2016 09:40:14
He may want Everton but they want a high profile manager to spend their millions. He will end up unemployed at the end of the summer, and only him self to blame,



24 May 2016 09:07:09
Well said fordy, and we, bless us, were his publicity vehicle, damn we're good.