Aston Villa Banter Archive July 19 2013

19 Jul 2013 22:54:57
deal done Benteke stays @villa Best news for all but Levy. bring on 2013/2014 excited for the first time in years. all is forgiven as long as the buy out clause is £40mill

19 Jul 2013 21:23:53
Could not believe the news today, whilst totally disappointed in his behaviour I am pleased he is staying. He is a top quality striker with bags of potential. The most important thing now is to offer PL a new contract. He has proven himself to be a great leader and man manager with a great eye, ethos and passion for the club and a culture that is being bred at Villa Park is something to be proud of.

19 Jul 2013 19:46:07
I hope all you people who slagged off the bloke about benteke now start sucking up to him well done who ever you are and well done to pl and the villa board!

19 Jul 2013 19:14:12
Well none of you saw that coming!
Well done Benteke for seeing sense! Now sack your agent, we don't want a repeat next summer!

19 Jul 2013 19:05:40
Benteke signs new deal sweeeet

19 Jul 2013 18:52:20
Benteke has withdrawn his transfer request and signed a new contract until 2017 according to the BBC.

If this is true we can look forward to the new season with optimism. vtid

19 Jul 2013 18:37:45
Ha ha its been brilliant the last few weeks on here so much said and so many arguements and what do you know? We should have all stuck together in the first place now get behind the team silverware is on the cards next season UTV

Naturalvillan

Steady on mate
After last season I would settle for a nice, boring, dull mid table finish.
I doubt Mrs Mendax could take the stress of a repeat of the past year

19 Jul 2013 18:18:16
bentekers stays - unlucky spuds!

19 Jul 2013 18:13:37
Absolutely fantastic news for AVFC with the resigning of Benteke.

I stand here happy to be proved wrong and tip my hat to the strength and guile of Paul Lambert (and to a lesser extent Randy Lerner) as this marks a special moment in our immediate future.

We have a very special player at the club for atleast this coming season who has a point to prove on the eve of the world cup.

Its great that we held firm and have been rewarded for doing so.

Looking forward to many more positive comments. and perhaps that attacking midfielder coming in soon :)

Leroy

19 Jul 2013 18:01:16
Wow, what a great weekend to come. Big Ben signs for 4 years. Well done PL.

Great news about Benteke.

Some of us will need to eat humble pie but, "hey what the hell"

Just need an AMF now and we should be in a great position, options all over the park.

villadave

19 Jul 2013 17:59:11
Oooo Christian benteke ooooo Christian benteke

19 Jul 2013 17:57:24
Well it would appear benteke has now made a massive U-turn is tv are to be believed. Apparently he has withdrawn his transfer request and signed a contract extension until 2017! Earlier I stated if he's going next year he can go now, but surely if he has chosen to stay as apose to being forced to stay, he actually does want to be at the club now? let's see if this is all true first!

19 Jul 2013 10:53:41
I wish people would stop with the 'benteke should stay for one more year'. Its ridiculous if you ask me, yeah we may need his goals next season, but why don't we just sell him for a massive profit and use the money to buy somebody else that will score us goals as well as the attacking mid we've been missing for years. let's say he does stay, we double his wages, he scores 20 goals then packs his bags and sods off for £15m, we'll still be in the same situation we are now, we just have another year to put up with endless rumours about it and £10m less to reinvest in the squad.

Also to anybody thinking lukaku is a good replacement, aside from the fact he is worth more than benteke, are well forgetting that in march he was telling benteke to leave villa? Why would he tell his mate to leave us then join himself.

If he stays mate I think will sign a new contract which makes sure if does go it won't be cheap but I'm pretty somebody will come in for him once a big forward leaves then moves will start coming rather sell him abroad but wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool come knocking once suarez does one

This is doing my head in.

I have said before, we have many more good young players on the books at VP, why are we talking about Benteke every day

If he goes he goes, and that's it.

villadave

19 Jul 2013 09:05:15
Not so much a rumour as an observation of situations at MUFC and THFC.

MU want Bale and are prepared to pay £60m. Spurs reply "not for sale. "

Chelsea want Rooney and are prepared to pay £25/30m. MU reply "not for sale, even if he puts in a transfer request. "

Spurs want Bentakee amd are prepared to pay £20m. Villa reply "start at £25m. "

Can you spot the difference? that's right Villa have given a price as opposed to a rejection. Simple solution, give him his request back, show him his contract and tell him "you are a Villa player, get on with it!"
Close the door after you.

Next.

But he is for sale. If we were given £25m i'd bite their hand off, we've made a huge profit, and we could but 3/4 good players with that money. Its no good holding onto him for one more year if he's just going to up and leave next season anyway. We're building a team for the next 10-15 years, not the next season. Take the £25m when you can instead of selling him for £15m next year for the sake of one more season.

I wholeheartedly agree with the original poster.
Regarding the reply from ethAVFC, how are we going to build for the next 10 years if we apply the logic you suggest?
We made huge profits on Milner, Barry, Young and Downing. are we any better off?. NO
Lets's suppose we do as you say and buy another ccouple of players of Benteke's ability (not easy to do by the way) and let's suppose that Okore, Tonev and Westwood have outstanding seasons along with the Benteke replacements, do we sell them all for a huge profit as well?
When, exactly, does the building process begin and end?
It's players that win games, not accountants
At some point you have to put a stake in the ground and say sorry, we are putting our ambitions as a football club first
This assumes of course that we have any
Over to you on that one Randy!
Mendax

The difference is, okore, tonev, westwood and the rest all see the future of the team we are building, that is what we are trying to achieve under paul lambert, we had to sell young, milner, downing and barry as we were spending a lot more money than we were earning. The whole philosophy now is bring in quality players on lower wages so we make more than we spend and build a great squad in the future instead of having irelands and bents on the bench. Benteke cannot see what the rest can, and he'll no doubt be off next season, so if he is a player that isn't part of our future then why should we bother keeping him for one year? Not to mention double his wages.

Problem is if a player wants out for whatever reason, he can become a liability in many ways.
That is why I think the structure of contracts needs to be addressed sooner rather than later.
Until then I would suggest we stand firm and make things difficult for want away players who are in the first 18 mths of a 3, 4, or 5yr contract.

Mendax.

Do I detect some doubt as to Villa`s ambitions, or are you just trying to make a point?

You are correct we did make huge profits on the likes of Milner, young,
etc etc, and personally I think we are "better off".

The players togetherness and the team spirit we have now is far better than it has been for years.

Apart from the obvious Contracts are being signed, that's got to be good

villadave

EthAVFC, I think you are being a little presumptuous in claiming that you know that "Okore, Tonev and Westwood and the rest see the future of the team we are building". A lot of these players have not kicked a ball for us yet. I suppose you thought the same about benteke 12 months ago or do you think that the new group of players are basically just better people? (without knowing any of them personally)
The unpallatable truth is that we are now being seen as a selling club by other teams as well as players alike. I suspect that in 12 months time we will be having the same conversation about another new player we have bought this year. It sort of blows your romantic notion of a group of young foreign men who know little about us but want to be part of some glorious Villa project, out of the water
As the originally poster intimitated, other clubs don't seem to have this preoccupation about keeping an unhappy player yet our fans trot it out all the time
We seem to be finding a way to fool ourselves that rolling over and being used a s a stepping stone by an arrogant 22 year old is OK because we can get rid of a potentially disruptive influence and and make a tidy profit in selling him.
We are morphing in to Wigan, and we all know where they have ended up
For Chrissake, we won the European cup in 82, Benteke should kiss the ground with gratitude that we have signed him. instead, we adopt the view that after one good season he is too good for us
Mendax

Hi Villa Dave
When I said better off, I was thinking mainly of league position and yes, I was trying to make a point (I'm a bugger for that)
I was also still in my Benteke depression
I agree with your thoughts that the transfer system needs to be overhauled by the way
The current system is of benefit largely to agents. That cannot be right
Mendax

Hi Mendax.

I thought you were making appoint,

Its all over now buddy so let's enjoy, I am really chuffed to be honest.

And yes agents are the ones rubbing their hands.

Its looking good, keep posting mate.

villadave

Mendax, some of the players we have signed last season could have been sold for a profit this season but they kept quiet and got an imoroved contract because they clearly don't want a move. As for the new signings, many of them have spoke about being at villa for the futue and being part of a very very good rebuilding process, how did benteke turn up? He went on strike to force a move, turned up, said hello to a few reporters then went home. Okore especially, is talking to the press every few days about how excited he is for his future at villa. And yes in a few years, I think okore will be too good for villa and may want champions league football, but he's made it quite public that he is dedicated to making this club one of the best in the country again. If we are a selling club, why are we yet to sell any of our best players from last season? And even had benteke have left, it would have been his wish, and we'd have had to bit the bullet, we still kept hold of guzan, lowton, westwood, weimann whi were all very good players for us last year

Try stopping me Dave ;)

19 Jul 2013 08:28:07
Just read that spurs are putting in a 20mil bid for soldado and apparently it should be enough to get him. So is It likely they would still be interested in our contract rebel?