Aston Villa Banter Archive September 15 2013

 

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15 Sep 2013 21:35:07
Can everyone please calm down about villas loss at home. Ye were not the best team in the premier but we have give the top three current teams a real run for there money and beat one of them. Why is everyone so down? We have one of the best forwards in worlds football and a very good manger. Plus the team can only get better with the youth. I think people need to realise that martin o Neil wasted all of learners money and we haven't actually got the funds to buy these high quality players that everyone is begging for. The only complaint I have is that he doesn't mix it up when we are at home so we are becoming a bit to predictable. All I can see I can see is as good of quality we've had at villa in many years. Good times ahead for villa.

avfclegend

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The reason that people are a bit peeved is simply that we failed against a team that were criticised for NOT buying a single player during the window. Our defence is inadequate and has to be improved, Vlaar is not as solid as is needed in the prem. Okore is new to the job so must be given time.
A pair at the back is not good enough no matter how good the wingbacks are, and ours are not, so my personal opinion is that Okore Vlaar Baker or Clark should always play as a three with wingbacks so that we have four or five across the back. Even Lambert is saying that we must not conceed the first goal. I would like to see us not conceeding a goal, it would make a change!
The worst defence, according to stats, in the history of the prem. Not a record that any of us are happy with to be stabled at VP. Midfield looks OK and a strike force fronted by Ben that looks to have ability to score against any team, providing they attempt to shoot.
. However if we give away goals then the front line will always be overworked in playing catch up.

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I would drop gabby, weiman, westwood, luna and put them on the bench and play

guzan
lowton vlaar clarke baker

sylla delph

baccuna helinus tonev

benteke

im dissapointed with the loss but reality if we got 6 points from our first six games would not be bad considering we have had to play
arsenal, chelsea, liverpool & city!

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U can't drop gabby for bacuna! From what I've seen of bacuna he's been awful

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Something needs to be done we are to predictable?

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15 Sep 2013 20:30:06
Whatever happens between now and January
We have to be looking to add two quality midfield players to our squad. KEA is a joke and Westwood's abilities are constantly overrated
(how bad must Bacuna and Tonev be if they can't get in to the midfied we field each week?)
The idea that you can pick up cheap options abroad and turn them all into top class premier league players is a total falsehood
You can do it sometimes (Benteke), but not all the time. Those kind of buys should be a shot to nothing in order to supplement the squad, they should not form the bedrock of it
At some point you have to invest in real quality
If you don't, you eventually go down
If we cannot afford the kind of buys we need then fine. Let's just accept we can't afford to be a premier league side
I know it's early days yet but can anyone real see anything other than a similar season to last looming ahead of us?
Please, answer me if you can, as I am dying to be convinced

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I disagree, You can buy cheap players from abroad and turn them into top class players. Want me to compile a list?!
totally understand the frustrations though both our home games wev looked clueless. I think 442 with sylla and delph in midfield would be my prefered choice for villa park matches.

Finch

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Finch, you haven't read what I wrote. I said "you can do it sometimes" with regard to buying cheap foreign options and turning them into premier league players
My point is that it's a gamble and you should supplement that approach with some sure fire, no doubt about it, purchases of quality. just a few

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Mendax be careful. You will be slated by some of the persons on here who believe facing reallity is akin to being the bringer of doom and gloom. AS one of the more coherent of posters on the site I don't want an intelligent person being slagged off.
What you state is the obvious but I don't think that Lambert would be allowed to invest in existing "stars" he has to buy players that he believes he can develop.
Lerners philosophy is buy cheap and bring on to prem. standard. Most of us realise that every now and then this happens but on the whole a success rate of 1 in 50 buys is all that can be hoped for by most clubs.

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Hi Finch please give a list do you not think Gardner is better than all the players bought except teckers he need a chance. villajk

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Cheers mate, appreciate the comments
I understand what you say about Lambert being effectively hamstrung by Lerner's model for Villa but I really think Lambert has to use his loaf a bit as well
I don't like the loan system much but I would have preferred to see someone like Barry and Rodwell or Barry and Sinclair come to Vila for a season rather than us buy the likes of Bacuna and El Ahmadi.
A couple of established quality players, if only on loan for a season, would give the other young players we already have, time and room to develop as we hope they can do (ie it will be interesting to see Barkley at Everton develop now that he has Barry alongside him)
Is this not just basic stuff?

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Hi Mendax I Agree, would like to see Gardner with those you suggest villajk

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Yes villajk.
Exactly what I mean
Don't know why I didn't make that comparison myself

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15 Sep 2013 19:03:01
Think we need to set up diffrently at home then our away matches.

i would play 4231 at home and 433 away

we need to start using all our squad!

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15 Sep 2013 10:19:39
I'm sorry but your support is embarrassing, us Geordies travelled all the way down singing, in the match singing, on the way home singing, and you's sang once in the hole game. Shameful

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Gold sticker for you mate

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Ahhhhh, well done you

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If your that brilliant at singing go an make a div of yourself on the x factor

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And I bet it was that awful drone as usual jawdees jawdees jawdees or those other ones united united or Newcastle Newcastle Newcastle about as entertaing as listening to Cheryl cole miming

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We sang for most of the game and we couldn't understand anything u were singing

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