Aston Villa Banter Archive August 15 2017

15 Aug 2017 21:56:55
Bring back sherwood.
Passion, entertainment, attacking and fan favourite.
Bruce, I hold my hands up. You had time, you had money, but both have now gone.

A nice guy, but you don't fit.

15 Aug 2017 22:20:22
Atleast sherwood tried something different when we was losing and seemed to get a reaction from the players, bet he'd get hogan firing.

15 Aug 2017 22:23:39
I second that flackie!
Bring back Tim 🙌🏻.

15 Aug 2017 22:29:00
What could Tim have done with the Des millions? He certainly had passion and man motivation! Something so amiss at the moment and can't see how Steve Bruce and staff can stop the rot of the last 5yrs! VTID.

15 Aug 2017 22:53:49
I'm with you. At least we had ago and he wants to come to villa.
Only other would be big Sam for me doesn't play great footy but he gets the wins.

15 Aug 2017 23:03:19
Not Sherwood. seriously the man is braindead. We need to stay away from the so called proper football men.

I would prefer a fresh approach at our club. I am sick of hearing how you can't play good football and get out of this league because that is a load of bollocks.

15 Aug 2017 23:50:32
welldone Flackie you have my respect takes a big man to say he was wrong. I am just sorry i was right. I am on me way back from Reading the fans turned tonight. And OMG Flackie for once me and you are on the same page we wouldn't ever argue if Sherwood come back because I want the same as you mate I loved him so much passion was great football I enjoyed. Flackie all tho we disagree sometimes we both want Villa to win and do well.

16 Aug 2017 00:25:59
Look at the managers who have recently proved successful in the championship. Newcastle Huddersfield now Wolves Fulham. Foreign managers with ambition and attacking ideas. Maybe the time has come to ditch the home grown dinosaurs and go for a more outward looking approach.

16 Aug 2017 13:58:59
Just to clarify a fact, I am not saying I was wrong!
My problem wasn't/ isn't your opinion, my problem was the fact you swamped this whole forum with it, on every thread, comment and post.

I sadly wanted Bruce to succeed, and I have no satisfaction in saying he isn't.

To now say I told you so is laughable, but within character.

We can not, and obviously do not all agree. But to constantly post that your opinion is the correct one, to then throw made up stats, facts and blulsiht to try and prove it is comical.
When that doesn't work to then say you have more right to an opinion as you go home and away is childish.
To then claim a victory, and demand an apology is obnoxious.
So no, I don't say I was wrong, in fact the opposite, Bruce deserved a chance, I gave it.
Can you honestly say you did?

So thank you, I accept YOUR apology.

16 Aug 2017 17:46:13
Well said flackie wtw always seems high on his own importance!

15 Aug 2017 21:43:20
Im afraid an worried villa are just going to be a forest an leeds our once great club is in a mess the only good point is our youth set up.

15 Aug 2017 21:56:43
The problem is that with SB he doesn't want to give full games to RHM, Davis or others so we will be stuck with cheap transfers and allow our youngsters to leave cheaply like in the past.

15 Aug 2017 22:01:11
absolutely gutted. tribe is the only word I can use. to keep changing manager is not the answer But Bruce has to go now or we will finish near the bottom of league. we need to attack teams and it's just so negative with him. the minute we go behind we crumble. Terry looks like a shell of the Chelsea player and looks like his legs have totally gone. I know I'm upset at mo but trust me Bruce has to go now.

15 Aug 2017 22:27:03
Needs to be done asap before we end up too far cut off from the top and end up a miserable 13th place. or worse!

15 Aug 2017 21:40:24
Does anyone know what the he'll we have been messing around at all preseason? Becoming a lil embarrassing.

15 Aug 2017 21:28:49
Tony please act swiftly this can not go on any longer. There is time to save things and move on, you have to be decisive and act now. You have had chance to see where Bruce is taking us last season was rubbish, nothing had changed. The fans will respect you more for taking action now rather than a months time by which time it will be too late.

15 Aug 2017 22:03:08
hit tony on twitter guys with #bruceout. simple as that.

15 Aug 2017 21:27:47
No one can fix this mess. Shambles. Utter rubbish.

15 Aug 2017 21:59:49
Another long drive home.

15 Aug 2017 21:18:49
2-0 to Reading and just 2 shots from the Villa.
What a set up, does Bruce realise that to score goals and win games you need to play with forwards on the pitch.
Where is RUM he didn't play last night.
Oh are played in the u23's last night why?
Surely he should have started tonight.
Bruce no more chances please walk.

15 Aug 2017 20:53:18
Villa hanging on again we have had chances yet again can't wait for kodja to come bck an put these chances away, we definitely need a new striker.

15 Aug 2017 21:09:35
ffs villa attack this is dire to watch.

15 Aug 2017 19:32:48
Didn't go today as couldn't get away from work, and didn't push fact as was under impression was on tv!

Now don't i look a tawt!

15 Aug 2017 19:45:12
Rodney you plonker.

15 Aug 2017 19:54:55
Thanks trigger!

15 Aug 2017 21:11:22
glad you did not waste ya fuel mate to watch this tribe. scared silly to go for it we will lose here by 2 or 3 again .

15 Aug 2017 21:28:53
Pin back your ears and take a deep breath, if bruce isn't anything but angry in the conference after, then he's flummoxed, i hope he comes out spitting bullets.

15 Aug 2017 11:13:19
Hi all.

I've been passively reading the posts on this site for a year or so now and thought I might pitch in.

I'm not going to go into Villa's longstanding problems, as we know them all too well. I am a bit of a geek when it comes to statistics and tactics though.

Through last year and also especially noticeable during the Cardiff game we seem to have a problem in our defense.

Almost all of Cardiff's attacks were from the flanks (especially the left one) . This isn't helped by the fact that Hutton and Taylor are effectively positioned as Wing-backs, while Gabby, Elmo and Onomah cut in like no 10's. To make this light defense worse, Terry and Chester pushed a high line against two fast strikers, leaving them man-for-man high up the pitch.

Rather than continuing to bore everyone with the facts and rambling, I'm suggesting that if Bruce switches to his beloved 3-5-2 formation, it might actually suit us as a team this season. Giving us two strikers can only help in attack as well while Kodjia is out!

Sorry for the long first post, hopefully SB might be reading. UTV!

15 Aug 2017 11:26:20
Oh, just to add to the above as well. If we play the same formation we did on Saturday, we will likely score a headed goal (we're bigger than Reading), but Reading will almost definitely score from wing-play. No idea about the result, maybe a draw or plucky win for Villa?

15 Aug 2017 16:26:16
Reading 1 vs 2 Villa.

15 Aug 2017 16:42:38
Villaman

If Hutton, gabby, and lansbury are not playing I will go a 2-1 win
If they are in a 2-0 defeat,
Was hoping to see o'hare in the team as well but not sure if Bruce is brave enough to play him.

15 Aug 2017 16:48:23
Nòooooooo Villa Man.

15 Aug 2017 08:53:54
Perhaps Saturday was a kick up the arris we needed please please please Villa Man don't give a score prediction every time you say we going to win we lose COYL.

15 Aug 2017 10:52:11
I'll set us off!
3-2 with bacuna scoring a late winner.
He got to be the stand out player, I mean he is champions league quality.

15 Aug 2017 10:59:22
Please not bacuna
My heart can't take it!

15 Aug 2017 11:01:48
See we are now as big as 12/ 1 to be champions after just 2 games!

15 Aug 2017 11:10:55
we will grind out a 2 1 win tonight with Terry and green on the scoresheet. back that up with a hogan hat trick the weekend in a 3 0 win. 😉😉😉 utv.

15 Aug 2017 11:55:41
Greens injured isn't he.

15 Aug 2017 13:36:10
Iam going for Reading 3 Aston Villa 0 Pressure to pile on Bruce. Strikers can't score defence is slow and midfield can't tackle or pass Bruce can play what ever formation he likes his not good enough and neither are the players he brought.

15 Aug 2017 14:11:35
Wtw-thats the spirit fella.

15 Aug 2017 14:49:33
wtw - are you a blue or what?

15 Aug 2017 15:15:22
I hope we win to shut Mr know it all up. why go to matches hoping your team lose so manager can get the sack is beyond me, just to say I told you so. Aston Villa football club is better off without people like you following. them get a life!

15 Aug 2017 15:16:43
Oh look another thread yet same boring post.

15 Aug 2017 16:36:00
My score for tonight Reading 1 vs 2 vILLA HOWS THAT villadaz.

15 Aug 2017 16:36:27
I would love to see a 2-0 win but!

15 Aug 2017 16:53:55
Villa man I'm superstitious I always used to put my left boot on before my right and my right sock on first my friend, Every time you say we going to win we lose oh dear never mind gives WTW more ammo to fire at us proper Villa fans no offence intended Villa Man.

15 Aug 2017 01:47:27
I have come here again for another post which I hope will take minutes but I expect will drag on and on so apologies in advance.
First of all let me say that I hope we smash Reading 0-3 and go on to dominate the division and walk back into the premier league.
But back in the real world, I just wonder what some are thinking. I fully support everyone who has an opinion so I mean no offence but I really can't see why people are calling for Bruce's head already. How many times do we want to change the manager before we actually just stop? Do we think that we get out of this mess by totally de-stabilising the club again? Who next? David Blaine? We need to stop and look at ourselves. Look a little deeper. We have no god given right to walk back into the premiership. I love my club with everything I have but the word "mighty" has been taken down from above our name. We are a championship side now, like the "mighty Forrest" or the "mighty Leeds". What let's us down is our very own expectations. From top to bottom.
Our chairman - love him or hate him, he's a business man. A man who has found some adoration for his social media messages and plays on it. A man who simply thought he could buy his way back to the premier league. A man who is loved by thousands because he's the opposite to Randy Lerner. A man who has led us to the brink of breaking financial fair play rules. A man who sanctioned the purchase of close on £40m worth of strikers but only £10m worth of players to supply our strikers. What does Mr Xia actually know about football? Or the championship? Or what we really need to succeed? He knows how to tweet and make money but hundreds of billionaires have been made millionaires by owning footballl teams.
Our players: well we didn't learn. We signed average players on inflated wages. Our squad is pretty decent compared with others but for some reason they hit bodymor Heath and just stop developing.
Our fans: We still think we have the right to just turn up and win because we're Villa. We've been so used to being top dog of the midlands that we just think we deserve it. A bit like some of our players. Just turn up and win. It doesn't happen.
We all need to start again. Forget where we came from. forget what we once won. Forget how great we once were.
We're a championship club with a decent championship squad. We have a decent manager. Let's stop being the laughing stock of English football. Let's stop calling for managers heads after 2 games. Let's stop groaning after the first mislaid pass. Let's stop all the expectation and just SUPPORT our team. We have a crazy chairman, an ugly manager, some overpaid pre-madonnas, a good set of young kids, a brilliant stadium and the best away supporters on the planet. So let's just get behind them. Let's try and learn to love it again. Try and remember why we started supporting our team in the first place. We weren't happy with Doug so we got randy and loved him, but then hated him and wanted Tony. We did the same with our managers. We're a fickle lot as Mr O'Leary once said. It's football. Let's enjoy it. We'd hate life without it :)

15 Aug 2017 06:04:07
You said 'the F word' and you're right, that's what we are, though we're never going to admit it. I was 10 when we became Kings of Europe, when winning that trophy was an actual competition, you can 'buy it' now, money has ruined football, all that matters now is qualifying for The Champions League because of the cash it generates, not winning your domestic league, I'd be happy now with just seeing decent football, winning more often than not, beating the nose home and away, a good cup run but most of all our players having the passion that we all have for our club, is that ever going to happen when they get £50K+ a week for just turning up?

UTV.

15 Aug 2017 06:10:09
Many, many valid points there mike, and though he wasn't my first choice i want bruce to succeed, us to succeed, but i feel he's an echo of the manager he was at hull and the dimwits at small heath (saying that, don't look at the table! ), where once his teams of the past had pace, and moved the ball quickly, he seems to have fallen into a rut and seems a bit hesitant to change things;yes us supporters probably make him think twice about going for it, but that's what comes with a big club-big expectations, he's always managed the underdog, so is it too much for him now he's at the other end of the wedge? time will tell, it seems snodgrass may be coming, and that might be the piece of the puzzle he feels he's missing?, but now he's having a go at the players in interviews, where in the past he would have kept it 'in house', i think he might unravel if we don't go on a run soon, so fingers crossed for tonight, but stam is no mug and if bacuna plays, well, sods law raises its head again, love us to win, think we'll get a lucky draw, but worst case scenario, if we lose, and the players roll over again, then it won't be long before some in the dressing room spit the dummy out, and its basket case time again, and the doctor more than likely will give the dreaded vote of confidence, but fingers and toes crossed for tonight, whatever the result who cares actually, as long as the players give their all for steve (and us) then at least we'll know their onboard.
COYV-and now their going to believe us.

15 Aug 2017 06:56:12
Hi all I regularly drop onto this site to read the posts and gauge the feeling of what's going on at our beloved club.
It seems to me that tactics and style of play is the main cause of our problems, I have been to all the pre season games and the two championship opening games.
And it's a case of same old same old. slow build up possession going nowhere football, pass it sideways pass it back and by the time we have gotten ourselves into a threatening position the opposition have 11 players behind the ball and we do not have what it takes to break them down.
Then when the enevitable happens and we concede a goal we are beaten because it's very rare that we are able to turn it around. for far to long our name has been Aston Villa NIL.
At this point we need to ditch this style of play and tactics I don't want at this moment in time entertaining football I want winning football so I would get our team nasty and playing at a high tempo and in the faces of the opposition, play direct and on the counter attack drawing the opposition on and then getting the ball forward and quickly.
Get in a big Andy Carroll / Peter Crouch type centre forward a good winger like we had in Mark Albrighton and bombard the opposition and continually make it very difficult for opposition defences as at the moment it's to easy for them.
This style of football is not pretty but it's effective and exactly what is required for the championship.
If you had asked me this six months ago I would have said no we must not play this way but after watching the second half of Leicester v Athletico Madrid in the 2nd leg of the champions league quarter final.
Leicester were going nowhere the first leg they played a passing going nowhere football and lost the 2nd leg first half more of the same.
In the second half Craig Shakespeare changed tactics and went direct with a high tempo playing direct and in your face football with Vardy playing off Ulloa with every player giving instruction to get the ball into the box at every opportunity.
If anyone watched that second half Leicester created more chances than previously in the 2 legs and had AM on the back foot and under pressure, if they had some more time or adopted that tactic from the start of the 2nd leg then they may have gotten to the semi final.
It was after watching that second half that convinced me that's the best way to get out of this difficult and unforgiving league.
Just my opinion so go easy lol.

15 Aug 2017 07:54:19
What is needed is passion shown from the players for 90 mins.
If all players shown the same desire as o'hare I would be more happier,
My heart tells me we will win 2-0
My head tells me differently a 2-0 defeat!
Please villa follow my heart prediction,
Sick of losing especially away from home,

15 Aug 2017 08:48:57
Mike spot on fella but I feel as though I've read a book no good post fella.

15 Aug 2017 17:37:47
Its going to be another tough game for us tonight. both clubs similar predicament. Desperately hoping we get the win. However win or lose my support will be exactly the same. I won't go slagging off the manager or players or the club. I will leave all that to the likes of villas best supporter and his minions. VILLA FOREVER.