Aston Villa Banter Archive February 14 2017

 

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14 Feb 2017 23:50:53
Got a simple question but is it possible for us to send that bloody kid back to utd and get some other keeper in on loan? Usef to be allowed but the rules changed this year so wasnt sure.



15 Feb 2017 09:53:58
The boy really is the worst I've seen in a Villa shirt, and that's saying something! A Sunday league keeper saves their second goal with no trouble.



15 Feb 2017 10:46:18
Chris, your talking out your arse! Worst you've ever seen? Ahead of lescott, Richards, Hutton, grealish etc etc. Give the kid a chance, he's confidence has been knocked but then again if the defence done what they are paid to do he wouldn't be under the pressure he is, or dare I say if the forwards converted the chances created ( which i'm sure that's what they are paid to do) then the defence and the keeper won't be thinking" rubbish lads can't concede more than one otherwise our so called strikers have to score 2 goals from the 15 chances we will create tonight.



15 Feb 2017 13:56:07
Eh, I've never seen Richards Hutton or Grealish in goal? Must have missed that one sorry mate. The post hasn't mentioned the strikers (which I do agree are useless and couldn't finish their dinner) it's about the keeper, who has now made 3 mistakes leading to goals and looks absolutely awful.

You put any half decent pub team keeper in goal last night and we go in at half time 1-1, their second goal is saved by every other keeper in all 4 divisions. How many saves has he had to make?

And how many has he actually made? He makes Gollini look like Neuer, but no he isn't our only problem however he is the biggest, a winning team starts from the keeper.



15 Feb 2017 21:54:17
Chris, as bruce said, he's young and will make mistakes-bruce is prepared to stand by him, so i guess its set, for the moment, and also, let's be honest, look at the sihte playing in front of him in defence, no wonder the kid is maybe a bit twitchy, you said in a post to get behind them not batter them, you can't have it both ways!



14 Feb 2017 23:42:45
Before I start, these teams we are playing have a settled side and a system that every player knows . We have a team of strangers and have not got any recognised system at all . Untill we get Jedinak back, we will continue to struggle . Without that cover for our CHs, Chester looks worn out, Baker you could see his confidence draining out of him . How many of these players we have signed, where captains of their previous sides . we don't have any leaders, to step forward and grab the game by the scruff of neck . Hogan must be thinking, what on earth have I done, he made run after run, nobody looked to play him in . Not saying anything about Jack, because you don't allow swearing . Every time young Green plays, he proves he's better than Jack . The kid keeps coming on playing great and then out again . More direct, dosent look to slow it down and runs at people and drives us forward . I hope Bacuna gets the nod over Hutton on Monday, at least if he gets forward he can put a cross in . So come on Brucie get it sorted, you must be running out of drawing boards to go back to . Onwards&Upwards Villaforever.



15 Feb 2017 07:30:41
Not having a go at your post but why do clubs have to have a midfielder "protecting the back four"? What the hell are the centre backs there for? What next someone protecting Jedinak, someone protecting them? And so on. Don't understand this.



14 Feb 2017 23:20:54
12 shots on goal, 1 goal - Bruce is the problem, countless chances created - Bruce is the problem, keeper gifts them a second goal - Bruce is the problem, this is unbelievable. How has Aston Villa turned into this, we are the laughing stock of the country and we deserve everything we get because we have the most embarrassing fan base in world football.

I don't tell people who I support anymore, because it's embarrassing, not because of the team, I'd shout that from the roof tops with pride, but because it automatically associates you with the most idiotic, moronic fans known the man. I really don't know what to say anymore, how long until the bed sheets are out?

And I don't mean this about the 25,000 with me from tonight who were their singing, who support the team, the manager, the club, I mean this amount the Internet fan, the I want us to lose so I can moan fan, the going to say the most ridiculous bull for attention fan.

I really am starting to believe we are the problem, or those morons within us are the problem, one of the best managers in the league, one of the best owners in the league with one of the best teams in the league, creating chance after chance but have 0 confidence ever - because they know they do one thing wrong and the whole clubs in crisis and the internet is in melt down. This has to stop if we're going to get anywhere.



15 Feb 2017 00:25:02
I semi agree with your latter points Chris. I don't think we help and we are a ridiculously fickle bunch of fans. O'Leary was right. However, this season at VP the fans have been awesome at times. We have by far the best away fans in the world. We do give that team push after push. I don't think any of the players look on sites like this though. I don't think they scour the internet looking for critism and they don't donthis because some of them don't care. Bruce brought confidence. Bruce bought wins back. Then he brought back the old guard. gabby, Bacuna, and add that to others that don't care and it's a recipe for disaster. We are moaning so and so's. We believe we have a right to be top 6 and when we're not we moan. However we are owed a lot from the players on that pitch. We pay week after week. We at least deserve some fight and too many times this season and the last few seasons gone it's the fight that's lacking. I can forgive a lack of confidence. I can't forgive a lack of fight. I would run through a brick wall for Villa if I could. Would Alan Hutton?



15 Feb 2017 09:53:45
Mate I'm not talking about the fans that go and the away fans, it's the Internet fans.



14 Feb 2017 22:35:25
Shocking, the last 2 games we have had 44 shots at goal, and our reward is 1 goal, how wasteful is that, hit the bloody target.



14 Feb 2017 23:07:00
Drop kodjia, go with hogan alone up front, simples.



14 Feb 2017 23:21:30
44 shots, 20 on target.



15 Feb 2017 07:32:33
Still only 1 goal though.



14 Feb 2017 21:22:17
The most obvious thing is kodgia and hogan can't be accomodated in the same team, put hogan up top and play a system that plays to his strengths, that's it in a nutshell, kodgia is not the way forward-in my opinion.



14 Feb 2017 22:44:29
As it was Valentine my bluenose other half came with me tonight even though they were losing his smug grin showed the depths we have fallen to, whilst i want to knock him out the sad reality is we are at their level and it hurts. In Steve I trusted but I don't think this can go on. The doctor is used to turning 100 million in to a billion not a sad failure please guys tell me where we go from here.



14 Feb 2017 22:54:26
Thats an easy one gogirl, wait till your fella is asleep then draw the word 'twat' on his forehead in indelible ink, and fall asleep at peace with the world.



14 Feb 2017 23:10:53
In many ways classof82 sums up the mentality of a number of our supporters.



15 Feb 2017 09:18:47
If you mean sarcasm, bang on.



14 Feb 2017 22:14:37
Even when we take a teams 2 best players they still turn us over, really don't know what's going on. We are becoming a laughing stock. Birmingham have only won 1 in 13 and we are still 4 points behind them, that just about sums it up.



14 Feb 2017 21:40:00
Enough is enough. We're now in a relegation fight (again) . What's the answer. I'm completely torn between wanting to change the manager (again) or sticking with him whatever happens. Confidence is at an all time low for fans and players alike. New players not making any contribution. In fact they're moving us in the wrong direction.
I think I want Bruce out. Sorry but that's how I feel.
Dr Xia you've put your money where your mouth is but it's failed this time round.



14 Feb 2017 21:49:41
I think you sum us all up. Bring in Timmy boy again me thinks. Give him a fair crack.



14 Feb 2017 21:59:39
Have you not seen the mess at Swindon? No chance.



14 Feb 2017 23:23:05
Hahahaha give Sherwood a chance.



14 Feb 2017 21:06:20
OK that's it, time to go Mr potato head, sometime it doesn't matter how much time you give someone it's just not meant to be.



14 Feb 2017 21:43:17
Kp I think you may be right but who else is there. I can't believe how bad it's got.



14 Feb 2017 21:58:53
Give Ryan giggs a shot? We've tried managers with a certain level of experience ( rdm and Bruce ) maybe giggs will come in with fresh ideas, certainly get the respect of the players for what he achieved in his playing career.



14 Feb 2017 22:00:39
It's a puzzler. Really not sure what the good Dr will make of this latest instalment. Totally baffling performances. Half expect us to go to Newcastle and get a result. Maybe not.



14 Feb 2017 22:03:03
What about Gary Rowett? I think that his records at Burton and Birmingham aren't too bad. He was unexpectedly sacked by Birmingham last December, still he is my first choice. Any thoughts, lads?



15 Feb 2017 00:00:22
"Give Ryan Giggs a shot? "
Why? What has he done to suggest he could get us out of the rut we are are in?
Bruce and RDM were both good, well respected players as well. We've had Roy Keane and Paul Lambert, both ex Champions league winners, at the club at the same time. They all failed.
Gary Rowett? I work with Bluenoses who tell me that the football was so awful they were glad to get rid of him
I don't know what it is but there is something fundamentally wrong at the heart of the club.



15 Feb 2017 07:36:37
That's my point mendax. We've appointed managers who have achieved things elsewhere but failed at villa. How will anyone know what giggs can bring until he is given a chance. David Wagner had achieved nothing before Huddersfield same with pochetino when he went to Southampton. Not buying into that what's he done crap.



14 Feb 2017 20:30:43
I haven't been on here since we hade rdm . and now we got bruce and nothing has changed i don't know what has happend to him he looks clueless i think his time is nearly up because he is doing worse then rdm and plus we are playing shocking football don't no who can sort us out maybe give the job to brian little til the end of season.



14 Feb 2017 23:24:25
Shocking football with 20 shots on target last two games, yea sack the manager, his the one struggling to score, moron.



14 Feb 2017 08:56:25
OK it's Tuesday morning I'm feeling positive. It's going to be a 3-0 win tonight. Hogan to get an early goal, hooly and kodja for the others. Hopefully the lads will read this and get into the same zone.



14 Feb 2017 14:22:59
Believe me if we lose next 2 games and the championship table will have a very frightening look about it where villa are concerned.

We are in danger of dropping another division make no make about that,
We are dropping like a stone and Bruce has to stop it or else another manager will be needed.

The most annoying thing is that on paper we have a side to do much much better but the table does not lie.

Either the players are not bothered to play for Bruce or Bruce is clearly not up to be villa manager.



14 Feb 2017 17:56:39
Or with such wholesale changes it's taking longer than expected to gel.
I want us to be doing better, I want us to climb the table and be back where we all feel we should be.
But, we don't have a Devine right to be there

I have no doubt after relegation the dr had a two year plan, 1st year, was the transition year, make the changes, in every aspect. and he has, and we are a million times better than the last 4 seasons, on and off the pitch.
Promotion was wanted, but realistically not expected.
If it happened, it was a bonus.

2nd year, is to get back to prem, automatically.
This is not only expected it's wanted, and needed.

We need consistency, a settled well ran and supported club.
Yes we need the players to make it happen, and the manager to create the correct formation for them.
But it was a pipe dream to think it would happen with the click of a finger.
And tgen to expect it to happen again after January is laughable.

We are closer to the relegation zone than the play offs, no argument, but we won't go down. We do how ever need to look at the much bigger picture, and realise what really happened to the villa.
The club was nearly murdered, by a reclusive yank, and over paid average players, who acted like pre madonnas.
The club has had life saving heart surgery, and people expect it to win a marathon!
Get real.



14 Feb 2017 17:49:46
Mainbob I totally agree with you. Steve Bruce does not have a style of play so how can you tell players to do a job you don't understand yourself? But I'm not going to blame Steve Bruce for everything who is advising Dr Tony that these managers are the right ones? To me we are spending Fortunes of money very much like Randy Lerner did at the start with no improvement.

We know we need time to gel but we need to see signs of improvement and style of play. I do not think there's anything wrong with these players its what the managers telling them to do.

I do not believe we will go down but things have got to improve. 2 months since we last won a game an that was a fluke against burton. Yes the chairman has money But he does not understand football like lerner all over again so will waste so much money he needs to sack whoever is consulting him. Collymore asked everton fans on twitter what are your views on keith Wyness Dr Tony's adviser former everton and nobody had a good word to say about him.

We would not have to keep changing managers if we just pick the right one in the first place. And that Ross McCormack deal going to Nottingham Forest when we paid millions 4 him reeks of Randy lerners mistakes all over again! message is clear dr. tony don't buy a business you know nothing about.



14 Feb 2017 17:06:35
Mainbob, any chance of giving us 7 numbers for the euro lottery could ya! cheers fella.



14 Feb 2017 18:00:35
Well done mainbob said that 3 times now since saturday.



14 Feb 2017 18:24:40
I seriously can't believe walkthewalks post, again.

Defending Ross? He was crap in a villa shirt. Perhaps wrong time, just didn't fit it, what ever but he coukdnt run, pass, or shoot. And you defend that?

5 people replied to the Neanderthal question. 5. How many Everton fans do you think there are? Going on that percentage I'd make him chairman.

Pick up a paddle and row in the same direction as most villa fans and open your eyes.
Constant demanding of Bruce's head is boring.