Aston Villa Banter Archive February 14 2015

 

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14 Feb 2015 14:32:50
Sherwood then?!!

Good, bad??

Thoughts

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A 50% win ratio for his 28 games in charge at Spurs.

If he can negotiate a similar ratio for us to the end of the season, we'll probably survive.

I just hope it doesn't come down to goal difference.

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Let's hope he sorts out the strikers out

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He always played attacking football at spurs and can't really complain about a 50% win ratio! Also not worried about upsetting people and won't stand for players not showing fight which is exactly what we need! Also showed at Spurs he won't play people on merit so hopefully he'll see Gabby, Weimann and Cleverley are useless and drop them. At least it gives the club the shake up it needs. I don't think he would have been many peoples first choice but that's who was chosen so we've just got to get behind him and hope he gives us the kick up the arse we need! Also will be interesting to see who he brings as backroom staff.

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{Ed001's Note - he also lets the players do little in training, which is why they love him. They just have a laugh instead of getting fit. Not sure what on earth Lerner was thinking, it has to be a short term thing or he will make things worse than Lambert managed.}

14 Feb 2015 16:36:59
can we recall Gary Gardner he seems to be hitting form and everyone knows a fit GG would add to our under scoring midfield

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Some one who has the club at heart as a coach,

Magic Mersin??
Ian Taylor??
Larson??
Melburg as player coach??

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Hi Flackie.
I can see your point mate and don`t disagree with you, but I am not going to desert Hoddle just yet.
So as it stands I would like to see Hoddle as Sherwoods No 2.
But we must all now back this guy completely and let`s try and make Villa Park the fortress it once was.

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I agree Dave, just can't see hoddle being his number 2.
Would be perfect though!!

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I can`t to be honest mate, but as you say it would be perfect .
Anyone with any thoughts on who Sherwood is going to upset first ?
Remember if we want results some of these players need to improve big time or drop out.

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Only one.
Big Ben

Rest might not be great, but 100% of the time give 80%

He gives 100% 50% of the time.

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14 Feb 2015 22:24:04
With all due respect ed I can't see what would make you say that. There's no way he Tottenham would have finished 6th last season if he didn't work them. From what I see of him is that he won't take any s**t from anyone which is exactly what we need. Agbonlahor needs to be taught just because he's been here a while he's not guaranteed to play. Weimar the same and if he can get benteke scoring like he did to adebayor there is no way we will go down. He brought through Kane, mason and Bentaleb into Spurs so hopefully will will see a bit of grealish and maybe Robinson if he can recall him. He isn't scared to try more things which lamberts was. Nothing can get worse that what it is at the moment so at least give the man a chance UTV

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{Ed001's Note - perhaps you should speak to some of the Spurs players then, who have said that they struggled early season due to the fact that Sherwood went too easy on them last season and they had lost their fitness edge. So with all due respect, you don't have a clue.}

Under the circumstances he was probably our only option
Don't like the sound of Ed's comments but then again you can't believe every rumour you hear, particularly if the origin is sports journalists
He certainly can't be any better than Lambert
Spurs looked a lot more potent going forward when he took over from AVB so maybe there is hope for us
I'll be particularly interested to see what formation he adopts

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{Ed001's Note - it is not a rumour, it is something every Spurs player has mentioned in their interviews regarding the difference between their current manager and Tim Sherwood.}

Well, we are going to find out pretty soon. To be honest I doubt that would be an issue at this stage of the season.
If they are not fit now, they never will be
Just hope he is tactically astute
Fingers crossed !

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{Ed001's Note - exactly why I said it needs to be a short term thing.}

To be honest Ed, don't you find that when managers are replaced in football, they are are always talked about in pejorative terms in contrast to the new guy ?
For example, I just did a search on "Sherwood's coaching" and came up with an article where Danny Rose was saying what a hard task master Sherwood was on taking over from AVB
To be honest, I don't trust a word that comes out of a premiership players mouth so it 's sort of academic really.

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{Ed001's Note - I am going on what they told me personally as well to be honest. None of them said that Sherwood was a hard task master to me. But then I don't know Danny Rose to ask his opinion.}

16 Feb 2015 00:39:39
Seems from first evidence I have got a bit of a clue. How could sherwoods 2nd half of the season mean they were unfit for this season. That is not sherwoods fault it pochetinos fault not working them hard enough in preseason. Even if they did say that its rubbish as late season training isn't meant to improve fitness that's preseasons job when sherwood wasn't there 👍

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{Ed001's Note - seriously? You are just trying to be funny and it is not working. I suppose the comedy in Brum is all left on the pitch these days!}

16 Feb 2015 12:14:38
Haha, ran out of comebacks, in what bit was i 'trying to be funny'?

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{Ed001's Note - with your clear lack of any idea what you are talking about while trying to talk down to me, who actually does know what goes on. You do realise that players are given a fitness plan to adhere to over the summer, that the manager sets with his fitness coaches right? Or did you not know that, hence your idiotic comment about Sherwood's training not affecting the player's basic fitness for preseason?

Or perhaps the stupidity of questioning if Poch is working them hard enough in preseason, when everyone with a clue knows that his preseason training is the toughest in the Premier League and he constantly emphasises fitness throughout the season as well. He introduced a second training session each day at Southampton, as he wanted the players to be fitter. He has done the same at Spurs.

Sherwood is used to dealing with youth teams, where the training is better if it is fun and also not too hard in terms of fitness, as kids are developing physically and overdoing it can cause problems. He got the job because he has the right friends, the same reason that Klinsmann was under consideration, who tell people he is good at his job, even though he has never proven to be any good at it. Even as a youth coach he was not particularly highly rated by those who I would trust to know their stuff, rather than his friends in the media.}

You seem to be a bit Irate Ed, Pray tell us what has got up your Goat.
It seems to me that you are having a pop, are you a spuds fan by any chance and have a dislike to Sherwood ???
Also us Brummies have an abundance of humour we are known for it.

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{Ed001's Note - not at all irate, it was not me having a pop. I am far from a Spurs fan, I also have no personal issues with Sherwood, he is a decent enough guy, he is just not a particularly good coach.
As for being known for your humour, you are known for being miserable, not sure that is quite the same thing. Not sure if it is true myself, the only Villa fans I know are cheerful souls, but that is what most people think of when you mention Brummies.}

Mendax, your earlier post states that "he certainly can't be any better than Lambert!"
Freudian slip or what?
Only 13 games to find out if your slip is showing.

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Ha ha, Brillianty spotted Oldvillain. I was checking you were still awake to any subject other than Lerner

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Errors do creep in when one is unsure. Perhaps you are wondering about Sherwood?
The ed. is making strong opinions about TS that do have credence and his record is no better, albeit in different leagues, than that of PL.
Apart from that, what has Lerner told him that he has as funds to improve the squad for next season. Sherwood could not get an agreement from WBA nor QPR regarding funds and talks were cut short. Then he signs with an owner who without doubt is the meanest in the prem.
C'mon Lerner show us the money!

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I didn't need Ed to say anything about Sherwood to make me unsure Oldvillain
Sherwood is an unproven and unknown quantity as far as I am concerned .
But we were definitely going down with Lambert so the guy has a free swing at the job for my money .
He can't possibly do worse than Lambert was on course to do

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14 Feb 2015 14:32:16
Tim sherwood!!??

Not my choice, but let's get behind him and sort this shit out

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14 Feb 2015 13:52:03
we need someone who is going to do jobs for us, one for the rest of this season and another to build something from the summer so that we can embrace mid-table mediocracy (sanctuary). for me there is only one person to fit the bill and that's Dyche, but I think he has too much about him ethically to leave Burnley at this stage. if it is sherwood then as long as he is half as good as he thinks is we'll stay up, but I'm not sure he is.

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