Aston Villa Banter Archive February 13 2017
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13 Feb 2017 19:03:26
When Bruce came in and put us on the run that gave us all optimism we had a very poor team and got results playing 433. Now we have a stronger team why can we not use that again? Kodija on the left of the front 3 (yes his a striker but majority of his goals have come when he played there), we now have a striker who isn't a fat midget or just plain useless so Hogan down the middle and Adomah right.
The midfield is now 5x better than what it was, so when fit Hourihane and Lansbury with Jedinak in behind them, Jedinak therefore in his rightful position doing what we brought him for and is one of the best in the division at, whilst giving Hourihane and Lansbury the freedom to move as they did at their previous clubs.
Back 4 positions can be debatable but we have the players to form a solid enough back line to pull results together. Just a thought but I don't see why it isn't going to get us results.
13 Feb 2017 19:21:46
I think we're still in need of a player with a spine and need to be far more vocal than we are, nicey nicey wins you sweet all in reality.
13 Feb 2017 23:32:09
And where's that coming from? The transfer windows gone the closest we have to a "player with a spine" as you put it is Lansbury. As I said though these are the cards we have we can't add to that so I don't understand your point.
14 Feb 2017 11:10:35
What i mean is we do have a player with spine and is also trappy, unfortunately he goes by the name of micah richards, out injured i know, but i think at the end of the day we're going to need his input to move on up, yes lansbury can do it, but as forest supporters have said on here.
he plays great one week and then goes missing for a game or two, so will bruce wipe his mouth and try and use micah, or hope lansbury, jedinak or hourihane step up, either way, somethings got to give, because when we concede a goal.
i don't see them having belief, and that's our achilles' heel, the squad is good, but no steely determination, i hope brucey whips them into shape, for everyone's sake.
14 Feb 2017 14:07:31
You reckon Micah Richards is more or a leader than the likes of Jedinak, Lansbury, Hourihane, Elphic etc? On what evidence?
14 feb 2017 17:13:10
i guess your not feeling the love for micah! just basing it on his time at citeh, showed he had a trap on him and could play, and mancini said he showed leadership qualities 8 months later, after a hefty contract increase, started acting like billy big spuds and got lazy.
so maybe your right chris, but i hope if he gets the right motivation he could maybe get back on course, i hope bruce is the man to stick a rocket up his jumper.
13 Feb 2017 18:32:16
A shame "Jedinak is still out injured" why keep making these changes, how the hell are they going to gel as a team if you are slung out for making a mistake.
My wife burnt the toast a few times, so what, I didn't change her, arm round the shoulder a few words and all was sorted.
Yes I think Hutton should make way mainly because his inclusion against Ipswich was forced on Bruce.
Bring Adomah back in place of Hutton and leave well alone, give them a chance.
The big problem we have is Kodjia, he needs telling and telling quick that he must learn to release the ball earlier, Hogan is making some great runs and all for nothing, wake up Kodjia look where you are going, get your nose off the floor and don`t be so dam selfish.
As a pair playing off each other they could become lethal and a handful for any defence.
Score goals and defending becomes easier, when defending becomes easier so does goalkeeping, a couple of 3 - 1 wins will make a big difference to confidence.
13 Feb 2017 19:28:18
Villadave, great point about kodjia, but i feel he'll put himself first before the team, i'm probably wrong but he always seems to try and score a 'special' type goal, always hollywood style, whereas hogan is pure down to business, whatever gets it in the onion bag, that's why hogan has to spearhead our attack, look what he did at brentford, says it all, kodjia is going to have to learn team first, hollywood second.
13 Feb 2017 22:50:16
Ha ha ha.
Dave. you've been reading Germaine Greer again haven't you.
13 Feb 2017 23:34:28
Kodija does have to learn when to release the ball earlier but what on earth are you on about "Hollywood" he wants to put the ball in the back of the net, a goals a goal no matter how it goes in, and I'm sure if you asked him he wouldn't be arsed whether it went in off his big toe or his back side aslong as it went in it he wouldn't care.
13 Feb 2017 23:36:04
Yeh I have mate, sad is it not.
14 Feb 2017 07:48:38
Totally agree about Kodjia
Not realising the ball
Physically he is rapid but in the head he isn't there.
Polar opposite to Gareth Barry
If you watch kodjia he takes that half a second to react instead of reading the game and the path of the ball.
He seems on his heels and his pace over the first 10 yards allows him to do this
I genuinely believe if it wasn't for his goals we would be on his back
McCormack is the best finisher in the championship
Better than hogan gale Kodjia
Scores for Forrest on debut
Kodjia finished McCormack before they got started by not realising the ball
It will only be a matter of games before Hogan has the same problem
The arms came out on Saturday towards Kodjia as Hogan was asking why did you pass
I watched Morrison for the baggies last week point to where he wanted the ball
Pass made by striker Morrison runs on goal
Grealish done it against forest
Kodjia would shoot.
14 Feb 2017 11:27:12
You've put it miles better than me Charmed, i reckon hogan is going to need the patience of a saint, just hope kodgia tumbles what to do and they click, otherwise that's another load of dough wasted!
13 Feb 2017 18:53:35
When Bruce came in and we went on the run that gave us all confidence, we was playing 433 with Kodija out on the left. Now we have a decent striker why don't we stick to that? Front 3 of Kodija Hogan Adomah, midfield of Hourihane Jedinak Lansbury when all fit and then a back line of Taylor Baker Chester Bree.
If it worked before when the midfield was awful and we had to either play Gustede or McCormack down the middle then surely it must work now with Hogan there. Kodija works well on the left, Adomah proved how effective he can be vs Preston, it's give Lansbury license to push forward (how he played for forest), Jedinak in his best position with legs around him and full backs that over lap effectively.
You could argue swap Taylor with Amavi, an several other like for like changes but my point is that formation and system worked with a weaker team, improve the team as we have and surely it would work even better?
13 Feb 2017 17:08:05
My score for Tuesday night Villa 1 vs 0 Barnsley.
13 Feb 2017 18:16:44
Mine is Aston Villa 0-2 Barnsley Pressure to grow on Mr. Bruce.
13 Feb 2017 19:05:31
Villa man please stop making predictions every time you do we lose 😊😊.
13 Feb 2017 19:06:08
That's it walkthewalk ever the optimist.
13 Feb 2017 19:26:06
It is Steve Bruce that does not fill me with optimism he has no plan or Style he does not know whether he wants to use wingers wing backs or even a passing game seriously if he don't know how can his players know?
This game and the Newcastle game are crucial for Steve Bruce's future. Lose both games and we could be in a relegation battle only 7 points in it what's near enough 2 games?
13 Feb 2017 10:09:21
Ok so I've got over the 500 mile round trip and got things into prospective. We should have won the game in the first half but the combination of keeper and bar stopped us. So next up Barnsley. If we play like the first half again with a bit of luck we could be Ok. However I would make a couple of changes. Jonstone, Baker, Elphick, Chester, Richards, Amavi, Lansbury, Hoolihane, Jedanick, Hogan and Kodja.
Assuming all fit that is.
13 Feb 2017 10:50:02
Mate I don't disagree. but Richards?!
13 Feb 2017 11:21:44
My guess is that Aston Villa will lose to Barnsley too.
13 Feb 2017 11:26:52
No disrespect but fancy Keith Richards would do a better job! Not sure if Mica can strum a tune?
13 Feb 2017 12:13:41
Maybe as part of a back three he could cope
I would go
Johnstone
Richards, chester, baker
Bacuna, Lansbury, Jedinak, houraine, amavi
Hogan Kodja
Bacuna only if Bree is not fit.
13 Feb 2017 14:01:30
Whether he would fit in, do a job or not, how can that pillock be allowed to ever wear a villa shirt again.
The guy is a disgrace, and I can't forgive him for last year. for example, if he, and others I accept, had stepped up, we wouldn't be in this league, this situation.
13 Feb 2017 15:29:38
Flackie, I agree he is not the most popular. However at one time he was the best attacking RB in the business until Sherwood decided he was a CB. Bree is injured so let him earn his dough. Jedanik to hold in front of the back three leaving hooly and lansy to run amok in the middle. We need to play through them. All I saw Saturday was bakes trying to ping 60 yarders into the path of Kodja and Hogan, he's good but not that good.
13 Feb 2017 16:38:55
How many times does Richards have to play before people realise he is a pale, pale imitation of the player he used to be.
I don't know why that's the case but it very much is; be it right-back or centre-back.
13 Feb 2017 16:46:17
IMO I believe that we have a great squad it's, just how we bed them in .
For me Brucie has to go 4-2-3-1 as follows
Johnstone
Bree. Chester. Baker. Amarvi
Jedinak Lansbury
Adomah. Hourihane. Kodjia
Hogan
Subs
Bjarnson
Grealish
RHM
Green
Elphick
Taylor
Bunn
It's only my opinion but I believe that this formation can work . Kodjia needs to pass more but was a lot better coming. In from the left.
13 Feb 2017 16:56:21
Hang on mate, at one point he refused to play at right back.
Quality professional.
13 Feb 2017 17:04:03
Good team there villa kenn.
13 Feb 2017 18:46:57
Wasn't his attitude that was the problem last year, he just isn't that good.
13 Feb 2017 18:40:06
I would not entertain Richards at almost any cost. He regularly is out of position leaving space for the opposition to have a gentle walk.
But can we actually identify the weak area?
It really seems that our opponents knoW where our weak spots are.
Starting to question Calderwood in put.
13 Feb 2017 18:49:50
My team.
Bunn
Bacuna if bree not fit
Baker
Chester
Taylor
Amavi as our winger,
Houlahane
Lansbury
Adomah as our other winger,
Kojia
Hogan
4-4-2
But having put down this side I still think barnsley will do us!
13 Feb 2017 18:58:11
How do we know he refused? There was that much going on at the club and coming out you can't believe majority of it. Don't get me wrong I don't ever want to see him in a villa shirt again because he's awful but I do remember last season he was the only one who attempted to bridge the gap and apologise (Wycombe and Sunderland away)
13 Feb 2017 19:57:19
The reason he refused is because he was brainwashed into thinking he was a centre back. Sure he was should never refuse but he needs to be put straight rb or nowhere. However in bowing down to popular demand I concede to bacuna at right wing back.
13 Feb 2017 10:17:35
I'm a bit of a nerd, but looking at the different patterns we are trying and how players think and going on how our front two naturally gravitate to on the pitch and their natural peripheral vision abilities i tell you, if we're going to make a move then we need to play hogan up front on his own and tailor our system to make him our main man.
kodgia is a great athlete with pace and power, and he works well when the ball is played in front for him to run on to, but bruce seems to prefer a slightly different system which suits hogan more; look at the runs kodgia make, look at the runs hogan makes, hogans' are more intelligent with a greater reading of the play and the percentage ball to expect.
kodgia does not possess this attribute (yet), all i'm trying to say is we need the go with hogan to be our main weapon, i'm not saying it'll be popular, but look at the stats and positional play, and logic says hogan as our primary weapon.
13 Feb 2017 04:07:40
I still think we lack an industrious live wire in the center of the pitch. Slightly leftfield but I think Stuart sinclair of Bristol rovers would be a fantastic addition.
13 Feb 2017 10:23:15
Wish we'd swapped mcshortfarce for pritchard from norwich (or even hoolahan), or nabbed zak clough, but hey ho, what's done is done, but your right finch, a little maestro would have been the icing on the cake.