Aston Villa Banter Archive August 10 2016

 

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10 Aug 2016 23:33:43
You know what people i am having a rest from this site for a bit there's nothing to say really my football club keeps hurting me and i refuse to get angry or upset over them anymore. you all have your views which i respect but i must say no matter what we or our chairman says its all rubbish we need ACTION.

this club is horrible to watch not fun not exciting and if i am honest fed up of it i don't care if they don't go up or win the league but at least try and win some matches. every week villa lost, villa lost, villa lost don't matter who we play we lose. i bet you if king villa went in goal, flackie and mendex up front, me in midfield with a few others on here we would beat villa! Really sad face : (



11 Aug 2016 00:04:57
Bloody hell mate, you really have got it bad
See where we are before Xmas before doing anything rash
And, keep posting. I may not agree with you but I welcome the debate.



11 Aug 2016 00:13:17
It's not fun at all is it.
I love villa like we all do here but have to agree it pains me to watch them.



10 Aug 2016 23:28:20
I'm going to say this once and once only haha! I actually missed Westwood tonight!



10 Aug 2016 23:36:11
Blimey mate, now I am depressed.



10 Aug 2016 22:21:30
Well boys thanks to u i stayed well away from the knife drawer last night. going to be a lot more positive from now on. especially now that rumours are that James Chester might be arriving on his golden chariot (FLIP ME) . Then another boot in the horlicks tonight again. The positivity has been sucked well out of me. The Thunderbird (RDM) should never have got the job. I know its early days but
I DO DESPAIR.



10 Aug 2016 22:35:08
So here we go again guys and who is going to blast me this time? I can't quite beleive the defeat but what baffles me more is the inclusion of Richards who is robbing a living as a footballer, why on gods earth did he get moved to centre back tonight after his shocking performances last season! I got shot to bits for saying this team would struggle unless we made signings and look what's happened albeit we signed Mcormack. As i pointed out we needed to sign players like him weeks and weeks ago because they need time to Gel, and I just can't get my breath that experienced people like RDM and even Brian Little didn't smash that home to the new owner before he became obbsessed with getting rid of last years bunch before really going for it! We may well now sign another 4 players but the problem is that the clock is ticking and this league moves at pace. Sorry guys expect promotion next year because it ain't happening this term!



10 Aug 2016 23:43:22
Exactly how easy do you imagine the following things to be:
1. Getting dreadful players on good contracts out the door?
2. Persuading much better players to come in the door?
How exactly would you do it?
Of course, you sniping from the sidelines, pointing out the blindingly obvious and then having the cheek to take credit for the fact is a massive, massive help.



11 Aug 2016 01:09:12
You do know this isn't championship manager, you can't just say I want him and hey presto he's a villa player. There's so much going on when trying to buy a player, the selling club has to find a replacement for a start, there is a big chain of events happening that can slow the process down, can't just wave money at it!



11 Aug 2016 12:41:39
Look guys you can have your oppnion and say what you like. Bear facts are that our new manager and owner have had weeks and weeks and weeks to get this right but they haven't and here we are again! By the way we have suddenly got rid of players for fun so clearly it can be done quickly, in contrast we haven't signed enough new people " primarily because they are probably haggling over
price rags and so on! Money talks and if you offer enough you get what you wsnt. Dr Xia has done the talking but not got what we want! You guys make me smile your full of naivety! Ask a footballer how transfers work you will suddenly chance your minds " chuckling to myself"



11 Aug 2016 17:27:47
Clearly you are just smarter than rest of us. clearly.



10 Aug 2016 22:33:02
I thought that we might struggle and possibly go down, league one I thought may be our level, until tonite that is, now it's obvious we couldn't even compete in league 2. As previously posted (to medax disdain) doomsday is inevitable.



10 Aug 2016 23:45:20
Nostradamus, alive and well!
This is like having a debate with a bunch of 6 year olds who have been stuffed with e-numbers and haven't had their nap.



11 Aug 2016 00:03:04
Blind, argumentative and stupid unintelligent posts.
Makes my blood boil mate.



10 Aug 2016 22:27:09
No footballer with any ability or pride will join this shambles, even the most optimistic fans must accept that the team is in terminal decline.



10 Aug 2016 23:35:25
Must?!
Why? Because we lost a league game we didn't deserve to lose, a league where we play over 40 games
And a cup game where we played our second string, and openly said its the league that is paramount.
Yes the performance was unacceptable, and will need addressing.
But as fans we MUST accept that we are finished?
Never.

I think you MUST accept to pipe down, and put things in perspective.
Grow a pair, accept we won't win every game.
There is an old saying, to win the war, you need to lose a few battles.
Maybe, just maybe, rdm was proving a point, sink or swim if you like, to the bomb squad from last year.



10 Aug 2016 22:13:46
Starting to get tired of our chairman talking💩 top club in 5 years he is having a laugh stop talking bs get your cash out an sort this mess out billionair my arse. we have been fed a load of 💩 i'm afraid yet again another dodgey chairman buys one engs big clubs for what if he isn't going to spend we are only going to be big in china on chinease food.



10 Aug 2016 22:42:31
Grow up!
It's been two games.



10 Aug 2016 22:48:29
i fully agree with you mate.



10 Aug 2016 22:59:36
So you're having a go at the chairman because he isn't rich enough for you? (having just broke the transfer record for the division and on the day when we've bid 14 mill for a midfield player to break it again? )
What a sad indictment of the society we live in and what a skewed view of the only way to succeed in football.
As if that was not bad enough, your rant is also veering dangerously toward the xenophobic.



10 Aug 2016 23:00:15
We did play the centre back pairing of 'can't defend' and 'won't defend' tonight. Baker and Elphick should be the main two. Shocking performance granted but these defeats happen to teams on form sometimes so it was hardly unexpected.
Way to early to be throwing in the towel and it's never a bad thing to be out of the cup with a season like this coming up. UTV.



10 Aug 2016 22:08:06
Nobody will ever convince me that Richards is a footballer, the man is so inept it's untrue . He has not got the foggiest how to play CH, he chases the ball like a 10 year old . He is caught out of position, time after time, following the ball . And what are those diving headers all about . Once again crying out for a right back, the only position I haven't heard mentioned. Sorry but Gardener once again was found wanting . my Mrs would put harder tackles in than him . Jack has to play central in behind the striker, not in the game enough out wide . Green played well enough, at least put crosses in . So come on Tony, RB, CH, a leader in midfield, & another striker . Felt sorry for Okora, the best CH in the world would get in trouble alongside Richards . Back to the drawing board, Onwards and Upwards Villa forever.



10 Aug 2016 22:15:23
Rubbish performance once again we got to stop with excuses even though its 2 games in we need to win and win quick or it's going to be a very long season again.



10 Aug 2016 22:21:27
I can't beleive RDM has not done his research on Villa from last reason! If he had surely he would know Richards was absolutely appauling at centre back, like a headless chicken on speed! I just can't get my head around it, he was one of the reasons we were relegated, get him out of the club NOW! i'm totally stunned they would even consider him and clearly these guys are overated as coaches?



10 Aug 2016 22:27:25
Clueless! Disgraceful performance. Only way out of Chumpionship is relegatiion. Fans who go home and away don't deserve to be treated to this garbage.



10 Aug 2016 22:55:49
Richards should never play for villa again! I cannot believe this guy is an old England international! Okore fell apart when he moved to centre back! No leadership and no determination at the back! They just panic! Second and third goals both huge mistakes!



10 Aug 2016 21:53:23
This would be my team, gollini gk, baker tonner jordon lyden rb, sullinan lb, tisholbla cm with gardner, green adarma on wings strikers mccormack hepburnmurphy . let that team gel forget the others no they had there chance time an time again youths the way forward and they will try there hardest.



10 Aug 2016 23:01:25
We have tp move on from some of those players Villa80 they just aren't good enough! Gardner in particular needs binning. Quality is a must.



10 Aug 2016 23:28:26
gardner? have you not watched the last two games? he has been shocking and i'm really beginning to wonder what all the hype was about.



10 Aug 2016 21:50:34
One word really. Embarrassing!

It was just like watching last season

Bunn - Not Good enough as cover
Richards - shocking, not a CB! Or RB
Baker - gave his all
Okore - Felt sorry for him, try to cover MR mistakes
Amavi - looked sluggish
Gardener - Again looked lost
Tishbola - Only real positive
Green - Tried but looked lost
Grealish - bright flashes but
McCormack - good movement but looked off the pace
Ayew - looked bright but no help

Hutton - should not play again
Geastde - offered nothing

Dr T must be wondering what the hell he brought, RDM hopefully has realised exactly what is needed.



10 Aug 2016 22:30:09
Stop tweeting Xia and sort out some signings otherwise you will find out how quickly fans will turn.



10 Aug 2016 23:05:47
The season has just begun, can we hold in the negativity until like 5 games played at least please? We played well against Sheffield Wednesday. Tonight was a bad one. Stay behind the lads!



10 aug 2016 21:49:59
i knew this would happen i have been saying it all summer and you all slaughtered me mendex flackie all of you saying iam negative we will get players where are they you all said we be going up! well wake up and smell the coffee you have been conned this chinese owner will just keep talking rubbish and you all lap it up! iam negative 4 a reason!



10 Aug 2016 21:56:25
You change you mind like the wind changes direction . There is being constructive in your criticism, and there is just being idiotic!

The players let the club down, not the chairman!



10 Aug 2016 21:56:29
I said the same and same happend honesty hurts mate they all say back the team and have faith well we have for years and they keep failing we need complete overhaul of squad I understand it takes time but we need grellish gone bacuna Westwood too richards gabby lescot too Gardner and ayew don't look interested gestede isn't good enough we need judge cm in jedinak cm in a decent striker too and a rb I'd buy Christie or de laet.



10 Aug 2016 22:00:04
Point me to a post where I said we are going up?
Most with a brain know that washing out the stench from the last few seasons is going to take a little time.
Getting on the players and the owners back before we've even played a home league game and with 3 weeks to go in the transfer window is as pointless as it is pathetic
Getting out of this division is going to take 3 things : Good management; financial support from the chairman and fervent support from the fans. Work out for yourself which one of those 3 you can most influence and remember the words of Gramsci :
"Pessimism is of the spirit, optimism is of the will"



10 Aug 2016 22:19:06
well said mendax.



10 Aug 2016 22:21:42
his had all summer to buy players rdm even had a pop at him on sky saying he pick this team because he has nobody else this chairman is all talk you can keep saying we will do great an iam negative all i will say to you is facts premier relegation then sheff wed 1.villa 0 luton of the 3rd division 3.villa 1 where can i be positive god knows what the score will be saturday relegation again iam afraid.



10 Aug 2016 22:35:44
Mendax you're perpetual optimism deserves a mention but Villa fans are tired and need some small crumb to feed on not this dross and loss. Come on Xia sort it out. Talk is cheap!



10 Aug 2016 22:39:45
Mate grow up.
I have never said I think we are going up!
And again, I'm not going to say my points again, as to be honest a lack of intelligence shows that you can't retain the information.
One thing I will say is, tonight's game was shocking.
However, was a totally different team to the one that will play in the league. And this is only the second game.



10 Aug 2016 23:59:36
Hi Villa7475,
To be honest I'm not often called an optimist. I am just trying, with a few others (i. e. Flackie) to bring a bit of balance to the debate
Fans have a right to be peed off after the Lerner reign and I share that frustration
My point is that this is a new start for us and it will take time; there is no getting away from that simple truth.

As fans we should recognise this and make some allowance for it. I'm getting sick and tired of the simplistic comments on here which seem to stem from the instant gratification culture we live in these days.

If you think I'm perpetually optimistic, I can live with that. But have a look at some of my posts in the Lambert/ Lerner years. Believe me mate, Jesus didn't always want me for a sunbeam.



10 Aug 2016 21:49:14
I'm not a person to come on here slating the team, I'm a glass half full kind of person

However Richards just needs to go and never come back . I swear he is like a voodoo doll cursed by someone . Ever since he arrived at villa we have gone from bad to absolutely shocking .

With him in defence in any position . We may as well be playing with 10 men .



10 Aug 2016 21:56:03
how can a lad the tall and that big get shoved around like a little girl? he's a joke and how many times did he try heading a ball 3ft off the ground?



10 Aug 2016 21:59:21
I can excuse amavi as he been out for virtually a season but our defence was shocking tonight! We just can't defend! As a team or as individuals! Luton really lacked quality but we made it so easy for them and they played as a team and hassled our players in groups. We have got a lot to do to turn this around. We need some steel in this team! An I don't remember gestede even touching the ball!

Absolute disgrace!



10 Aug 2016 22:01:22
I agree mate with you mate. Thankfully it looks like he is very much a 2nd string player.



10 Aug 2016 21:47:52
OH MY GOOD FECKING GOD. I've seen better player put on a saxon shirt than a few of these players we have. okore reckons he should be playing champions league footy? hahaha. richards spends more with his arse on the floor than a dog with worms, gardener can't pass a ball or tackle, . they just don't give a crap

im glad I've not got a proper job at the minute, sod having to go work tomorrow and face the lads.



10 Aug 2016 21:43:47
Total rubbish tonight, if it is possible I believe it is worse than last year.
The manager appears to have no idea at all, how I wish we had Pearson or even Bruce.
The owner needs to dig deep or Ian Holloway is going to be proved correct.
We have a midfield that produces nothing a defence that can't defend and a forward line that feeds on scraps.



10 Aug 2016 21:43:07
tut tut tut. gutted.



10 Aug 2016 21:42:10
No passion no pride no effort no anything they haven't shown anything against a team in league 2 i take it bck ian hollaway is right relegation could happen because the whole club sour at moment . i have seen some bad perfomances but this is the worst by a mile . an mccormac looks lost i feel sorry for him he should og gone to norwhich . this lot are just botherd about there wages rdm has a massive job on his hands we need players fast.



10 Aug 2016 21:49:47
Same old Villa I'm afraid. we bring Guestede on and we have absolutely no service to him, what's the point of having a target man if we don't target him! Unless mcCormack was injured he stays on the pitch, ayew scores a flucky goal and did nothing more, his price would have gone down now so we can't even cash in on him! Should of given Adama a run out tonight, he will need game time! Richards and Okore should never wear the shirt again. really can't believe what I've watched tonight, Dr Xia should refund all the fans that have paid money to go and watch that performance tonight!



10 Aug 2016 21:51:47
Hi everyone just registered. I only saw from 2nd half but have to say Richards was a disgrace he has no positional play he walked back when he lunges in to win the ball, he has no positional sense. If he is meant to be a villa fan himself that's scary. 2 goals from Richards mistakes was so excited when we got him on a free but a disappointment. He has relied on pace n power too long and not learnt how to defend. I have to say saw Gardner play twice now not impressed hope he gets better. let's hope it improves.



10 Aug 2016 21:38:56
Embarrassing, plain and simple.



10 Aug 2016 21:33:30
This is shocking, Richards was brutal playing right back lazy lunging into every tackle and even worse centre back Hutton hasn't been any better baker was having a good 1st half
I'm not a Westwood fan but he looks like in inestia compared to gardener
We are I'm bad need of wingers because the front 2 don't get any service at all
Taughts of having to go in and face lads tomorrow at work.



10 Aug 2016 21:50:15
last season i got loads of stick on here because i argued that if gardener was any good surely he would be in the team already. so many on here shot me down and said i don't have a clue, in his first two games he has been one the worst on the pitch.



10 Aug 2016 21:32:31
Give youth a chance now in sick of this lot hutton amavi westwood gested okore richards aweyu all can go for me we are a shambles an we could go down again them losers are going to take us down again them players should never been given another chance i'm not being a downest i'm being a reallist this performance stinks . and i'm not going to be the only one too say it tonight we are turning in to a laughing stock . we haven't won a game since feb an that says it all.



10 Aug 2016 21:22:36
This team is a joke i would rip it apart no one cares apart tishobla its a shambles we won't go up we will be lucky to stay up.



10 Aug 2016 21:20:34
Nobody should stick up for this performance it is pathetic the chairman is all talk and i have said before i don't by it talks cheap to be get bullied by luton is stupid. we will never win a game again at this rate since doug ellis left this clubs been pathetic.



10 Aug 2016 21:55:05
I think a few teams will realise we can be bullied easy especially after that game.



10 Aug 2016 21:19:58
League 1 here we come absolute joke.



10 Aug 2016 20:38:34
Im watching the villa game richards is playing awfull . the players have no confidence if we can't beat luton then i'm aftaid we are going to stuggle in league . i don't like the formation we should play 4 4 2.we need so much quality in the squad because players are not good enough . we need about 6 first team class players. the team lacks quality.



{Ed001's Note - Richards is just so lazy tracking back it makes you wonder how the manager doesn't run on the pitch and throttle him! It must be so frustrating to see him walking back and not even trying to get back into position.}

10 Aug 2016 21:01:21
Richards is shocking agreed 100% I was all for giving him a run out tonight but he's so slow and lumbersome.



{Ed001's Note - where was he on the second goal? He just goes missing.}

10 Aug 2016 21:18:17
Hutton is no better since he came on. A complete lack of leadership there tonight.



{Ed001's Note - I don't know what Hutton is, but he is not a footballer. Though he is hindered by playing next to Richards. We were just discussing your formation, and how it was a brave ploy by Di Matteo to go with just Okore at the back and then he went and scored an own goal bless him. I think he must be worn out from carrying Richards through the second half....}

10 Aug 2016 21:24:24
some serious psychological work needed in the squad.



10 Aug 2016 21:34:40
How many goals did we concede with Richards and Hutton on the right of defence. Did none of the coaches watch any videos? The whole team are rank without exception. Not there but same as Sunday fans are MoM.



10 Aug 2016 18:06:07
Anyone read the story on the little villa man who had leukaemia. His dad took a pic of him watching the villa with a lovely caption.

I'm not religious, but say a prayer lads the he stays in remission. Very touching story.



10 Aug 2016 18:30:49
Hear hear mate, mentioned this yesterday. A real hero.



10 Aug 2016 18:42:01
Puts things into perspective Flackie mate.



10 Aug 2016 20:47:55
Certainly does mate.
Wish there was a way we could have a collection for him?
Even if just to get a new villa strip.

Ed is there a way of setting up a donation page?



{Ed033's Note - Maybe someone should contact the dad and see whether one of his relatives has already set up a donation page somewhere or if not mention to them that they could go to gofundme.com and set up a donation page.

Failing that someone on here could set up a donation page somewhere for them.

Failing that, i could set up a Paypal donate button where the money would initially go to our Football Rumours Paypal account and then it could be forwarded on to the dad.

10 Aug 2016 20:47:56
great story maybe villa could do somethink for him?



10 Aug 2016 21:07:37
Ed, that's amazing.
I will try and sort something out tomorrow, I'll get back to you with update tomorrow.
Thank you ed.



{Ed033's Note - ok, good luck

10 Aug 2016 15:06:36
How do you think we will line up tonight?
I'm going

Golloni

Richards okore elphick Amavi

Gardner tishibola

Adama grealish ayew

Hepburn murphy.



10 Aug 2016 16:18:30
I think he would stick with Baker and Elphick as they re forming a decent partnership, Tshibola for me has to start. i'd like to see a 4-4-2 with Green and Grealish on the wings and Ayew and Mccormack up top to see how they are together, then if we are winning at like 60 mins take Mccormack off and give Hepburn Murphy his chance.



10 Aug 2016 13:13:53
1st of all can somebody explain to me after dr. xia slaughtered paddy riley for his part in last years signings why his still at the football club? He was at wolves yesturday scouting surely he should of been sacked we are still trying to get rid of his last rubbish he brought to us! also radio wm ssid the midfielder dr. xia promised is s non starter!



10 Aug 2016 12:03:58
just seen i vid on facebook interviewing few players where they think they could play position wise, okore says he could play as a holding mid and after sundays game i was just wondering what peoples thoughts are on that?

we could use a bit of bite and fight in that spot on the pitch think he would be decent.



10 Aug 2016 14:52:11
micah richards would be a great defensive midfielder i think we should give him 1 more chance he has quality i would sell okore his useless small and injury prone.



10 Aug 2016 18:32:43
He won't play his true position for us, don't give this pre Madonna any other sense of grandeur.

Best thing he can do, is do one.



10 Aug 2016 11:52:21
7,202 at home is an embarrassment we would take that away easily if we got the allocation. Says it all about the two clubs.



10 Aug 2016 12:16:32
they only have an 8000 seat stadium don't they.



10 Aug 2016 13:09:50
Just over 30,000 I believe. St. Andrews I'm talking about here. That was the attendance last night against Oxford and 1,155 was away supports apparently.



10 Aug 2016 16:59:28
oh i thought you was saying about how many tickets have been sold for our game.



10 Aug 2016 01:17:40
Lets face it Villains we need to take a reality check.
Benteke on loan then after promotion a return, yeah.
Paddy McNair om loan, but is he good enough for the Villa, let's ask anyone out there. Well he seems to be good enough for Premier league side Sunderland who have signed him for nearly 10 mill.
Now for the usual DROSS Ravel Morisson TOTAL WAISTER Might as well keep Gabby. And Herndandez why is it when run a of the mill footballer says that he would love to play for Villa we instantly fall in love with him and beg our owner to buy him. Do not be fooled by a player who is willing to drop down a division for the love of VILLA.
Here is a reality check, Same old loan and lower market signings will continue with groans of how we just missed out on whoever because of whatever. Dr Tony has the same type of wealth as Lerner not nearly enough as the Villa need to push forward. Seem to keep missing out on the manager we needed at the time we needed him. And i think we have lost out on the best buyer of the club through desperation. Others will be bought up by the super ric h Chinese probably WBA.
Iknow i talk some s**t but let's just see.



10 Aug 2016 03:30:38
wow i disagree mate. i think we will come straight back up no problem plus there's no proof only paper talk we are after them players mentioned everybodys just guesting. And our owners wealth is unkown and from what i understand rich people don't spend much money our chairman is buying us players he just wants hardworking players! Also doñt worry about the albion or any other team now i will give you a fact now every premier league owner is nearly a billionare now days so we are all rich its about spending wise! Look at leicester rich owner but spent on the right players calm down get behind the team! UTV.



10 Aug 2016 09:34:25
Ready and prepared

I'm not going to even moan about your negativity mate as its your opinion .

What I will say, and would be keen to hear an answer on is. You refer to the same old loan and lower market signings, owners wealth etc, but then contradict yourself by saying why would a run of the mill player like Hernandez drop down from the premier league

Who do you suggest we buy then?

Because IMO it doesn't matter about the owners wealth as we are presently a championship team, the super stars of football will not come to play in the championship willingly .

Also again IMO I'm happy for RDM to build a team capable of gaining promotion back to the premier league . Then once we get there and if needed, rebuild that team with premier league quality .

That's the way it works doesn't is?



10 Aug 2016 09:38:44
Stay away from the knife drawer Ready and Prepared - I'm seriously worried about what you might do to yourself since all hope is lost .



10 Aug 2016 11:40:14
Tony is about 7 times richer than Lerner and money is not a problem trust me.



10 Aug 2016 13:55:57
Makes me laugh how people disagree with comments made but don't offer and opinion!